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Monday Kickaround

*The deadline for U.S. cities/stadiums to express interest in bidding to host World Cup matches in 2018 or 2022 has passed, and the Insider is hearing that while a few on the original list of 70 have passed, at least two that were not initially invited have stepped forward. We're hoping to see the complete rundown today or tomorrow.

*Former New England midfielder Andy Dorman scores again for St. Mirren and might be on his way to a bigger club in Scotland or England next season.

*Former D.C. United forward Nicholas Addlery scores twice in Puerto Rico's 2-1 USL1 victory over Vancouver.

*Awaiting final word on United's pursuit of veteran defender Avery John from New England, which maintained his MLS rights despite his move to the USL last year. (The Revs never formally released him; he turned down their contract offers last winter.)

*Also monitoring DCU's negotiations with Real Madrid concerning an Aug. 8 friendly at FedEx Field. The match would be held at the NFL stadium around the start of gridiron preseason, but yard marks should not be an issue because the Redskins do not play a home exhibition until Aug. 22.

By Steve Goff  |  April 20, 2009; 9:55 AM ET
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Why is DC United so interested in Avery John?

Posted by: VirginiaFan | April 20, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Thank you FSC for giving me the info that four goals in a game is called a "Beaver Trick"...

I submit this as Exhibit Z in why Max Bretos needs a pink slip.

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | April 20, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Two new candidates? Let me guess, Poughkeepsie and Sheboygan.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | April 20, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm surprised at the use of Fed EX for this, and not pleasantly so.

Do they really feel they can sell more than 50,000 seats for this match? (The answer to that is 'Yes' if Ronnie the hand puppet is in white). But barring that, this is not the Galactico filled team it used to be.

Is the appearance of Gabriel Heinze, 67 year old Raul, and Sergio (what, me defend?) Ramos all that?

Posted by: JkR- | April 20, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Why does DCU need another older, slow forward? We have a stable of them right now!

I love Jaime and Emilio is producing now, but we need younger, faster, athletic forwards, not older and slower forwards. What team is DCU FO watching?

Posted by: therealfootball | April 20, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Are proposed stadiums in the running?

Posted by: sitruc | April 20, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

@Posted by: therealfootball | April 20, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Are you referring to 'veteran defender Avery John"?

What are you watching?


Posted by: JkR- | April 20, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I was never that impressed by Avery John. But let me make the case for why the team may be pursuing him:

1. He's an MLS vet. So he knows the league and there isn't a significant adjustment period (as with many foreign signings).

2. He's actually solid in a 3-man backline. Back 4--no way. But with 3 in the back (which Soehn seems to have concluded is the best way to get Olsen on the field and get the best out of Gomez), he's a decent player.

4. He'd come cheap (or at least inexpensive).

5. It's a recognition that while Rodney Wallace has had some good moments, he's not a left back in a 3-man backline (but either an outside mid or left back in a back 4 where he can surge forward into attack). And Marc Burch has had some bad moments this year (combined with a down 2008). So unless you want to switch Namoff to the left side, Avery John is veteran insurance in case Burch doesn't turn it around.

Posted by: JoeW1 | April 20, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

All in favor of the pick up of Avery John say "Ay"!

Those not in favor say "Nay"

Posted by: delantero | April 20, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: VirginiaFan | April 20, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Avery John was one of my favorite Revs players- the backline of Heaps=Parkhurst-John was probably one of the best in team history. I was hoping that with Chris Albright out with an injury, and the Revs looking so shaky, that they'd re-sign him.

Then again, I haven't seen him play in two years, I'm not a good judge of whether "veteran" is a euphemism for "old" here.

Posted by: revsfanindc | April 20, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Any other names being floated in this transaction besides Doe, Khumalo, and Peters? I'm having a hard time thinking that injuries aren't going to make Doe and Khumalo rise on the depth chart as the season progresses, and I like what they bring to the pitch.

Wouldn't United have to move an international (Doe/Khumalo rather than Peters) to bring in John, or does John not count under some loophole?

Posted by: benonthehill | April 20, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse


Avery John can play in both a 3-5-2 and a 4-4-2, and he's known to draw the occasional yellow card. Avery John is a huge upgrade over Mark Burch, and I would be shocked if someone could make a compelling case why Mark Burch is a better defender than Avery John. Yes Burch is younger. And Yes, Burch hits the occasional screamer freekick every once in a while. But neither of these is a requirement of defending.

Posted by: DWE4 | April 20, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Not sure what language that St. Mirren writeup started in, but glad to see they shifted to English after 3 or 4 paragraphs...

Divided by a commone language.

Posted by: teo_68 | April 20, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Why are they pursuing Avery John?

Beats me. Prolly 'cause they are using their super-secret, extra-technical player scouting algorhythm, and the name it spit out after they entered "need another overage player to balance the roster" was Avery John.

Posted by: roadkit | April 20, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

What's happened to the DC United front office? They used to pick young gems out of the rough, but now they are picking the old men from retirement homes.

They did a fantastic job this year in the draft. I am sick of these old player though. We all ready have Olsen, Emilio, Moreno, Fred, Gomez, Namoff in our starting rotation who are on the downslide of their careers.

If John pans out, great, but I'm losing faith in our FO.

Posted by: adamsunited | April 20, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse


We need the depth up front and in the midfield. As long as we continue with 3 at the back; mctavish, namoff, janicki, jankovic, jacobson and burch should be able to hold up just fine over the course of the season.

Posted by: The_Dude_Abides1 | April 20, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Um Dude, McTavish is a converted midfielder, Janicki really is a CB only, Jacobsen never has played defense and Burch is a former forward moved to defense who is now playing outside in a 3 back defense for the first time in his professional career. Namoff's forays as a left back in a 3 man defense have not turned out well historically. Obviously DCU doesn't need an MLS experienced outside player who did well in a 3 man back line at New England.

Posted by: griffin1108 | April 20, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse


With Jay Heaps and Parkhurst, who do you think caused the PKs?

He was the dirty member of that backline, the most careless. He'll give up free kicks right and left.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | April 20, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

With Jay Heaps and Parkhurst, who do you think caused the PKs?

He was the dirty member of that backline, the most careless. He'll give up free kicks right and left.

Posted by: UnitedDemon


Heaps is not the cleanest player either.

Posted by: revsfanindc | April 20, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

How come no news on Avery John? He is a Red Card waiting to happen.

Posted by: VirginiaFan | April 20, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

If they sign him, you can kiss the season goodbye...The guy became a cancer for the Revs...While we are at it might as well bring back Harkes too...

Posted by: alan19 | April 20, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

They did a fantastic job this year in the draft......
If John pans out, great, but I'm losing faith in our FO.

Posted by: adamsunited | April 20, 2009 12:14 PM |

They did a fantastic job in the draft this year? Pontius seems like a good pick, but he missed a sitter on Friday. Wallace? I haven't seen anything great from him yet. Kocic? He wasn't even good enough to win the 1st back-up job. They had to trade for a Galaxy cast-off. They had a chance to pick a goalie that everyone believes will be great, but they passed on him to take Wallace. Adams? I don't know. How is he doing in Austin? Barklage? Well, he did make the team....

I would say that DCU had a fantastic opportunity in this year's draft. To say they did fantastically well with that chance is at best premature. Frankly, I think they blew it.

Posted by: fischy | April 20, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

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