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Matchnight #10: United at Chivas USA

After brunch at Martha's in Hermosa Beach and a stroll along The Strand in Manhattan Beach, the Insider turns its late-night attention to the first of what D.C. United hopes is many big matches during this so-far-promising season: Eastern leader DCU (3-1-5) vs. Western front-runner Chivas USA (7-1-1) at Home Depot Center.

UNBEATEN STREAKS
DCU: five straight in MLS (2-0-3), six overall (3-0-3)
CHV: three straight victories in MLS, all by shutout

Kickoff: 11 p.m. ET.
TV: Fox Soccer Channel, Fox Sports Espanol.
Suspension: Chivas MF Sacha Kljestan (yellow cards).

MF-F Chris Pontius, a SoCal native and ex-UC Santa Barbara star, expects 100 family and friends in attendance....D Greg Janicki suffered a minor ankle injury during the week, and with two more games next week, he didn't make this trip. ... This is the second of three games over a 41-hour stretch at HDC (Sol last night, Galaxy tomorrow afternoon).

Back soon with DCU's starters and subs.

DCU (3-4-2-1): Crayton; Namoff, Jakovic, Burch; Pontius, Simms, Olsen, Wallace; Quaranta, Moreno; Emilio. Subs: Wicks, John, McTavish, Jacobson, Fred, Gomez, N'Silu.

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By Steve Goff  |  May 16, 2009; 9:00 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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Comments

I did not see Alecko on the pre-game injury report on the Chivas USA site. Does that mean his hamstring has healed enough to get on the field against his old team?

Posted by: Pedalada | May 16, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Funny, earlier this week he was "doubtful". I imagine he'd only be a sub, with Lillingston and Braun the guys I expect Chivas to start.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | May 16, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

let's go boys, three points stays on top of the table, but another tie in lala land won't dissapoint that much...

Posted by: joshuaostevens | May 16, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

hey there it is again..

Posted by: DadRyan | May 16, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

was Brad Evans sucking his thumb on his way off the field on that stretcher?

Posted by: DadRyan | May 16, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Kinda surprised for th 2-1 instead of a 1-2 with Quaranta up top. But overall, no problems.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | May 16, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Man, Goff is such a South Bay guy. :)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | May 16, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

I think the fact that we'll outnumber Chivas in central midfield is going to cause them a problem they haven't really encountered yet. Nagamura will have to play more conservatively, which means we're containing their highest scorer to a certain extent.

If we can avoid the kind of mistakes that gave Toronto their first goal, I feel like this is a team we should beat home or away. It's not like they're thumping everyone to get all these points; they're just playing mistake free, defensive soccer. We have the talent to get goals against them. The big thing for us is not to hand their rather weak offense easy chances. If they get goals on us, let's make them earn them.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | May 16, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't look like FSC on TVU Networks is working. Does anyone have a good link?

Posted by: notafembot | May 16, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

We do have an advantage over Chivas: We almost always score first. They have kept games from being a shootout so far; we need to make it so their defense isn't enough.

I don't have the use of a TV, but I will matchtrack and watch it tomorrow. Vamos United!

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 16, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Who saw that cross on the second KC goal just now? What placement. Just wonderful.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | May 16, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

once again, everybody on the bench could be starting right now. love this depth... :)

Posted by: abgcunited11 | May 16, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Live stream URL anyone?

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 16, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

www.atdhe.net always has streams for pretty much any sporting event, but it is a fantastic site for soccer streams including most if not all MLS games.
The DC United vs Chivas USA stream is at the very bottom.

Posted by: asccrew | May 16, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Here's a link to the match. Scroll down to the United game. It's asking me to download a TV Plugin thingy. I have FSC on TV so I'm not going to download it. Good luck.
http://channelsurfing.net/

VAMOS UNITED!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | May 16, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

The 3-4-3 on the road is a nice aggressive move by soehn. Although I assume that both Tino and Jaine will drop back as needed. Interesting.

Posted by: joshuaostevens | May 16, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

I think we could win this one. Sasha out, DC's newbies mixed with a ton of experience. I like it!

Posted by: evanskr521 | May 16, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Plenty of good feeds available at myp2p.eu. I'm actually using my computer so that my wife can watch something on tv...

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Here we go! Gooo United!!

Posted by: evanskr521 | May 16, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Good lord Livingston off by a mile and not called...

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Great one-touch by Quaranta...

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Jacobsen in for Olsen early...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | May 16, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh crap, Olsen is hurt and coming out.

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

bad start

Posted by: jjfooty | May 16, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

wow. he was off. terrible call.

Posted by: kennyisbigk911 | May 16, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

That Side ref needs to be replaced, three offside calls he flubbed!!

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 16, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

This linesman sucks. Another blown offside, this one for a goal. Great stepup on the trap by DC, too.

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Rodney Wallace playing for Costa Rica instead of the US???

I've done a little research on this. He was born in Costa Rica, and lived there until he moved to the US at age 9. But his nationality is listed as US.

It may just be Max and Chris being Max and Chris, but they mentioned him getting a call-up for the Costa Rican nats team.

BTW, REFS CONTINUES TO PUNISH DC UNITED.... something has to be done with the quality of refs in MLS.

Posted by: adamsunited | May 16, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Everyone together now: Off.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | May 16, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

3 f'in' yards offside. That can't happen at this level.

Posted by: fedssocr | May 16, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Offside is the easiest call to make, in my book. Just watch the line and wait for the sound of the ball. This guy is giving them anything!!

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 16, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

God guys I'm a gaLAxy fan and I hate Chivas USA with a passion. They are an abomination to the league for what they stand for and who owns them. C'mon guys let's eat some goats!!!

Also what's up with Rodney Wallace playing with los Ticos? Is that for sure...have they called him and he already said yes? There goes our future LB that the national team needs...

Posted by: silentbat | May 16, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Blown offside call in the Real Madrid game today, too, but Villarreal came back...

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

The commentators: blah blah blah, it was close; Eliminating controversy, nice job!

The last part is a direct quote.

I despair of any official understanding.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 16, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

try justin.tv has both fsc spanish and fsc english links.

Posted by: alanier13 | May 16, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen United be so thoroughly outplayed. The referee has been terrible -- I lost track of the uncalled fouls by Chivas, but their play is so much better. Every DCU touch is either sloppy or wooden. They really look clownish.

Posted by: fischy | May 16, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

oh wont you come home troy perkins...

Posted by: jjfooty | May 16, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

What an awful officiating crew!? They missed a clear offside and our keeper gets hit in the head and there is not call. MLS officiating is the worst in the world.

Posted by: no_recess | May 16, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

o@adamsunited -- Rodney Wallace is not good enough to play for either USA or Costa Rica, so it really does not matter which country he might choose.

Posted by: fischy | May 16, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Arm to Crayton's head was an accident...

Posted by: Reignking | May 16, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I have been watching this with utter disgust from minute one -- they are ten steps slower than Chivas and every pass has sucked. This game should be 4-0.

Posted by: fischy | May 16, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

DCU can't seem to string enough passes in the attacking third.

And yeah, that first goal was TOTALLY frakking offside.

Posted by: Juan-John | May 16, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

@fischy Outplayed by who? The guys in yellow?

@Reignking Yes, lifting your elbows and forearms as you come into a collision is a total accident. And accident or not, it's still a foul.

The FSC commentary is absolutely loathsome, too. Eliminate the controversy on a game-changing goal that should've been called back? Wow. Drink much Preki-flavored Kool-Aid?

United doesn't need help from this buttclown Mark Geiger to screw up a game. They're on the road 3,000 miles away against the hottest team in the league, I didn't expect much. But I do have a sort of basic expectation that game officials understand the laws of the game. These twits are awful.

Posted by: Landru | May 17, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Well...

They are a very discplined team. We aren't. We've got talent, and offensive presence, and two good defenders. But they win the fifty fifties, they shut down wayward passes.

It seems like they have a monopoly on all the scrappy, hardnosed types (Olsen being a noted exception).

There's still a half to play.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 17, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Crayton came flying into Braun.

Posted by: Reignking | May 17, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

@fischy "I have never seen United be so thoroughly outplayed."

Huh? Never? Did you miss last season? How about 2002?

C'mon, they've been outplayed, but hardly thoroughly. Not able to generate much in the final third of the field, but nor has anyone else in the league vs. Chivas. There have been some nice stretches of possession and probing. Yes, some bad touches here and there, and way too much slipping, but without that awful offside call, we're well in the game.

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Landru -- Peace and contentment be with you. The officiating is horrible. Chivas has been mugging the DCU players, and I think theres been one whistle against them. I see that -- but I also see how musch sharper their passes and movement are -- DCU is passing without any purpose. Jacboson has been the worst, but he is not the only offender.

Posted by: fischy | May 17, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing of United's deapth but what's the point if they (Gomez, Fred, Stern John, Morino, Olsen etc.) are too old to play 90 mins?

Posted by: 9Nine9 | May 17, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Can someone who's actually a ref comment on the following scenario:

You have a keeper going up for a 50/50 ball against an opponent.

The keeper punches the ball away a split-second before the two collide.

The opponent has his forearm up in front of him, but not extended, and collision causes the forearm to hit the keeper in the face.

Foul or not? What's the rule say?

As a non-ref, my uneducated analysis is that since the keeper got to the ball first and then got clocked, it's a foul. Even if there's absolutely no intent involved, you've got to protect the exposed player, especially the head area.

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Fred in for Pontius.

Posted by: Reignking | May 17, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Good sub - Pontius was not having a good game. A little uncontrolled, maybe from playing in front of family?

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Fred in for Pontius? Those 100 friends and family of his must be ticked.

Posted by: Juan-John | May 17, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

These commentators are awful. Their whole discussion of the disputed goal is laughable. They said that you simply can't play an offside trap against Gaylindo. Oh? He's the one player exempt from the rules? Apparently so... Then they start saying about how DC got their "hands caught in the cookie jar" on the play. Huh? No...they played correctly and got shafted by the linesman. Completely nonsensical.

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Yes, they're being outplayed. Hardly a surprise. Being outscored is different. One of the goals very clearly should've been disallowed. There's room for argument on the later goal, and of course Crayton charged into the play. So did Braun, and he lifted his forearms and elbows, for which, being a not-goalkeeper, he has no use other than to mug the opposing player. Protective instinct, sure. Foul--probably.

We should be very used to seeing DCU outplayed, but not necessarily outscored. It's happened enough over the years, and this team (and this coach) play it way too close to the edge. They've actually committed a substantial number of the fouls for which they've been whistled. They're not passing well, they're not possessing well, and they haven't finished well for a long time.

None of which makes Mark Geiger anything other than a hack, or his linesman anything other than a clown.

Posted by: Landru | May 17, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

One more, Fischy--I'm not gonna say Jacobson is playing well, but I expect better distribution from Moreno. Not worth an argument when they're both playing badly, though.

And yeah, Pontius was a lump. Fred couldn't hit a battleship from 15 feet, but it's worth the sub.

Posted by: Landru | May 17, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Don't count us out yet. We've scored alot of late goals this year. VAMOS UNITED!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | May 17, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Oops, just saw his uniform, it's "Galindo" - my bad.

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

What a hard game to watch. Between the lack of flow by either team, the more than questionable calls and the horrible commentary by the FSC crew, I doubt I'll stay up for the entire second half. As for the second goal, that call could go either way, except that if you've watched many games this year you'd see that call made against Chivas for interfering with the keeper more often than not. And how many times do you see a ref stopping a throw in because the throw wasn't being taken at the correct spot? It's happened twice against United tonight, but I can't think of two other examples of that happening all year. As for the blown offside calls, it happens, but what's telling is that he's getting the calls spot on in the second half. Perfection of the refs is not expected, but consistency is. And finally, Christopher Sullivan putting down United for letting a guy who's offside score is laughable.

Posted by: CrippledKeeper | May 17, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Que the Alecko dagger...

Posted by: CrippledKeeper | May 17, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

The Good
Chivas's grit

The Bad
Trying to watch United's back-pass-then-hopeful-lob attack

The Coyote Ugly
three-quarter sleeves

Posted by: notafembot | May 17, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Que?

Posted by: Reignking | May 17, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Cue instead of que.

Actually, really a matter of preferenece.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | May 17, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

GOOOOOOOALLLL Moreno!

All Quaranta, really.

Posted by: Reignking | May 17, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Er. Emilio.

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

So much for your GAA Thornton!!!

Posted by: Reignking | May 17, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Tino TINO TINO TINO TINO!!!!!

Posted by: Juan-John | May 17, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Very lucky that Gomito wasn't called for offsides on that goal.

Posted by: edgeonyou | May 17, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

MAGICAL!!!!!

Posted by: SadieV | May 17, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

If Gomez was offsides, which he looked to be, then the bad no-calls even out.

Posted by: Dancy1 | May 17, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Phew!!

Posted by: Juan-John | May 17, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Take it, Preki!!! Ours was in no way illegal, but yours was ridiculous!!!

I've never seen Quaranta do that. A goal and an assist, but the strike was world class.

thatz why we leave Emilio on the field.

Fred should be our attacting midfielder, with Gomez as the sub.

I'm so freaking happy!!

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 17, 2009 1:00 AM | Report abuse

If the ball wasn't played to Gomez, he wasn't offside. It was clearly a shot, rather than a pass. If Gomez actually touched it, then yeah, it probably should've been disallowed, although I didn't see where he was when Quaranta struck it.

None of which refutes the contention that it was lucky he wasn't called offside, of course.

Posted by: Landru | May 17, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

""I doubt I'll stay up for the entire second half. ""

Well, you missed one if you did.

A) I love our depth. Chivas looked pretty leaden when we turned it up with Fresh Fred legs.
B) The Center Ref was pretty good. Wish his far side assistant wasn't so myopic.
C) How long before Jakovic follows Nelsen to the EPL?
D) Why do our keepers make a drastic mistake a game? Crayton's judgment on balls in the air is woeful.

Posted by: delantero | May 17, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Kocic
Janiki, Jackovic, Namoff
Wallace, Quaranta, Gomez, Simms, Fred
Pontius, Emilio

Its time for Gomez to Play 90 and show whether or not hes got it.

Moreno can be a sub along with Nsilva, and burch well you make the call.

Great tie for a team that fights adversity, tough calls and a Goalie that has lost his MOJO

Posted by: Norteno4life | May 17, 2009 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I have no idea how we keep tying games that we should have lost, but I'd say that's pretty impressive. It has to show something: grit, luck, etc... but it has to be something promising.

Posted by: diego_r | May 17, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Gomez whiffed on that goal. He may, however, have caused Thornton to pause, which isn't quite "interference" but may have been off. But that wasn't nearly as bad as Chivas' offsides.

Posted by: delantero | May 17, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Jackovic is a hell of a defender, and man is he composed

Posted by: Norteno4life | May 17, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Let's play find a starting 11. My first squad, if all healthy, has to be . .

Kocic
Namoff Jack Burch
Fred Simms Olsen Gomez Wallace
Pontius/Tino Emilio

Posted by: delantero | May 17, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

we need a keeper to solidify this team, more than a stable first 11. But that's just my opinion. You get the keeper and defense settled and then we can interchange in the other 2/3 and keep players fresh.

Posted by: diego_r | May 17, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I call dibs on the "hopeful pre-supporter" on Jakovic. He's probably better than Roger, and is twice the man that Per"tallglassofwat"a. I think we'll keep him for a couple years.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | May 17, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Great late comeback. Beer goes from bitter to deliciously sweet.

Was that about the most attacking lineup ever from a DC United team in the last 20 minutes? Quaranta, Emilio, Jaime, Fred and Gomez all at the same time. I was pretty worried we'd give up a counter but then Victorine, Braun, Esky and Stepoveric may not have the speed of Galindo.

I didn't even think of the possibility of Gomez being offside on Tino's goal til I read the comments here. Was Tino's shot on the first goal goalbound before Emilio somehow redirected it?

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | May 17, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Check the replay, Gomez was onside When Santino hit it, even if he did not touch it. Whats wierd is that FSC commentators did not even look at the replay. Makes our tie that much even sweeter

Posted by: Norteno4life | May 17, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

We didn't lose.


Crayton has to go.
You can't come out to punch balls and miss. Stooops!

Posted by: DadRyan | May 17, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

what has happened to crayton?? I say bring in Hannheman and help him develop KOCIC,

Posted by: Norteno4life | May 17, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

""we need a keeper to solidify this team, more than a stable first 11""

Keeper would certainly help stabilize the back line, and Crayton isn't helping his chances for a new contract.

Posted by: delantero | May 17, 2009 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Seriously...Crayton must go. He's through. It's curtains I tell you! Curtains!

Posted by: DadRyan | May 17, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Six ties look bad on paper but these are the games we lost last season. VAMOS UNITED!!! Big match on Wed. eh?

Posted by: 9Nine9 | May 17, 2009 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Geez. Okay, DC United are now (un)officially known (at least, by me) as the Kardiac Kids.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | May 17, 2009 1:49 AM | Report abuse

edgeonyou:

What they meant by the "hand in the cookie jar" thing was that, if you play an offsides trap against a guy with Galindo's speed, you're gambling that the linesman will get his calls right. Instead of finding a way to handle it yourself, you're asking someone not on your team to help you defend, in essence. I feel like the logic here does follow, it's just the attempt to brush it under the rug was puzzling (especially since Bretos has always nailed his colors to the Galaxy mast).

diego_r:

I agree. With the aging-yet-essential legs on this team, we will be seeing players come in and out of the XI all year long. It's fine, because we have a bunch of guys that can come in and actually play (as opposed to last year, where I know I found myself praising guys for the simple act of not being totally awful). However, our keeping situation has clearly replaced the problem coming into the season at center back. At this point, teams know that high early balls will eventually give them chances because Crayton will flap at a couple, Kocic will drop a couple, and Wicks will do something even worse.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | May 17, 2009 3:32 AM | Report abuse

I think fischy's despair at the first half is an overreaction, but I understand. I didn't think Chivas was dominating us like Sullivan kept saying; they were just slightly better at everything. It was a small difference, but one bad call and one missed punch and we're 2-0 down (and don't forget Lillingston hitting the bar). I thought our biggest problem was that our 3 forwards were all flat (Moreno), absent (Emilio), or turnover machines (Quaranta). Our attacks were too easily turned back, and our midfield offered little beyond Simms making some tackles and good reads. For what it's worth, at halftime I had ratings of 4 for Crayton and Quaranta, 4.5 for Jacobson, 5.5 for Jakovic and Simms, and 5 for everyone else. Most of our players weren't actually bad, it was just that no one was stepping up above "OK". Against a team like Chivas, that's a recipe for a loss.

Fred for Pontius was a good sub by Soehn. Pontius had been tactically irresponsible both before and after he and Quaranta switched positions. Fred's willingness to run at people instantly made Chivas a bit more wary, but it took awhile for the rest of the team to get it together and take advantage. Once Galindo and Harris came off, Chivas lost their ability to stretch us; Galindo was a sub Preki has to make, since he isn't fit enough to play more than an hour. The Harris sub (note that Harris, despite being oafish, did get both assists), however, is indefensible and a rare mistake by Preki.

Soon after, Soehn moved to Simms being the only midfielder that wasn't looking to all-out attack, Fred moved inside, Tino moved to the right, and things clicked into place. I don't know if it was anything more than a shot in the dark by Soehn, but it got things going. Gomez never really found the game, but Fred was on, Quaranta was not on the ball as often so his turnovers went down, and you got the feeling that it was just a matter of us having enough time to get 2 goals.

When Emilio missed the 1v1 after blocking the rocket from Simms, a lot of teams would have dropped their heads. Instead, we pushed on, Tino made his first actually useful pass all night, and Emilio buried the much more difficult chance. Getting the 2nd wasn't even a surprise after that; credit Quaranta for having the confidence to take that shot after what had been a very poor night for him with the ball.

I know lacking confidence in Soehn is the internet nut party line, but he should be rapidly gaining our respect. Tonight, he outcoached Preki on the road. There's also the fact that, if the team has the belief and camaraderie required for all these late comebacks, at least some of the credit has to go to Soehn for instilling and nurturing those qualities. I'm not saying he's brilliant, I'm just saying he's impressing me. There's still room for improvement (public player criticism, keeper juggling).

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | May 17, 2009 3:47 AM | Report abuse

This is a really big result. We played the "best" team in MLS (Chivas makes no mistakes, plays their game, punishes you when you make mistakes, and had the most points in MLS) on the road, got behind and accomplished against Chivas what no other team in MLS has been able to do--get them back on their heels and score goals in the run of play.

Posted by: JoeW1 | May 17, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Cue instead of que.

Actually, really a matter of preferenece.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | May 17, 2009 12:40 AM

Not even a matter of preference. Queue sounds like cue. Que sounds like ken.

I have been accused of overreacting to the miserable first half. I do not think so -- I think it exposed the shortcomings in the midfield when neither Fred or Gomez. The guys they had out there could not complete a purposeful pass. Maybe the all ate some bad food, but they were not sharp. They pulled this one out when Chivas was no longer able to threaten as they did in the first half. The offense spread out better and the passing improved -- all to the good -- but they still looked clunky.

Posted by: fischy | May 17, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I will agree with Chest. The biggest change in the game came after Galindo and Harris came off. When they were on, Chivas was the better side. Without them United could generate some flow in their attack.

Posted by: fischy | May 17, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Having watched and taped and watched the tape,I agree with most posts,esp.Ch.R. My main problem is starting the clearly overage Jaime and the mediocre Emilio who doesn't make himself open but is capable of scores which others can't dream of(Gerd Mueller,88 minutes absent but 2 goals). Gomez is clearly no longer the player he was, and the FSC reporters were wayyyy off in their appraisal.My problem is that we have two different teams:When CG,JM,Emilio and Fred are together then the short and unpredictable passing game can work,but no longer for 90 minutes.
When we have Pontius,N'silu, Boyzzz, Tino,Wallace attacking,then there is more flow and MUCH more hustle, but less control and we look more like Col/
Chi/KC/R.STL. Perhaps the solution lies in starting the young guys and bringing the Latin Flavor off the bench as required. Understand that one Latino is ok as playmaker(my choice Fred) but the moment that we have 3 or 4 out there,then they keep the ball to themselves and don't involve the rest which,IMHO,was the main problem last year. Coach Peter

Posted by: bechtoldpk | May 17, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

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