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CONCACAF Done With Sudamericana

Clubs from the CONCACAF region will no longer play in Copa Sudamericana, the second-tier South American competition.

The governing body announced minutes ago that, after committing in 2005 to four years of participation, it will no longer send teams to Sudamericana. The main reason: a busier schedule caused by Champions League, which is in its second full year. Mexican clubs Monterrey and Puebla had been scheduled to participated in Sudamericana this fall.

However, General Secretary Chuck Blazer said, "CONCACAF is committed to the 2010 Copa Libertadores [the premier South American event] and will utilize Interliga to qualify teams. In November, the executive committee will review CONCACAF's future participation in the Libertadores."

Right decision?

By Steve Goff  |  June 30, 2009; 1:06 PM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF , Copa Sudamericana  
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Kind of a bummer. Despite the result, attending the "Collapse At Catlolica" was definitely one of my best soccer fan experiences. Oh well, some day maybe MLS will actually be good enough (consistently enough) to send a team or two to the Libertadores.

Posted by: EdTheRed | June 30, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe I misspelled "Catolica." Ah well - everything else about that game went horribly wrong, why not my spelling, too?

Posted by: EdTheRed | June 30, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Makes sense. Without Sudamericana to distract them, Mexican teams not in Libertadores will take CCL more seriously.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | June 30, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I liked the Sudamericana. Sure beats Superliga.

Posted by: Pedalada | June 30, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Merge CONMEBOL and CONCACAF! One confederation to rule the Americas. One World Cup qualifying tournament for the entire Western Hemisphere. One 16-team regional championship for the national teams, held every four years. One 32-team regional championship for the club teams, held each year (need to remove "Libertadores" from the name). Rack up the frequent flier miles! Everyone benefits except for Jack Warner and the tiniest of Caribbean nations!

Posted by: SSMD1 | June 30, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

(Yes, folks, I'm mostly joking. An interesting concept, but extremely unlikely to ever happen.)

Posted by: SSMD1 | June 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Ultimately -- and in a perfect world -- yes. CONCACAF should be building its own brand and rivalries, not cheapening its own brand by sending teams to compete in CONMEBOL's tournaments...unless, the two agree to create a tournament that integrates both. Of course, the two confederations are far from equal, and it's barely possible that playing in CONMEBOL tournaments might make MLS sides more appealing for South American players. It's possible that the teams might be marginally hurt by this decision, but it will allow them to focus on the CCL, which is all to the good.

Posted by: fischy | June 30, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

IMO The Americas should merge. CONMEBOL always gets screwed by FIFA politics, because they just don't have the votes. CONCACAF could use the influx of talented teams.

However, if they are going to be divided, then MLS needs to move to expand SuperLiga to all the leagues in CONCACAF, and have it run in parallel with the Champions League.

Posted by: mediaman1976 | June 30, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

@SSMD1: Good thing you're joking, or you could wind up on "Diamond" Jack Warner's enemies list...

Posted by: EdTheRed | June 30, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

If this strengthens the CCL, I'm all for it. Can't wait till they incorporate the tournament anthem into a Budweiser commercial. Can someone bring back the Coor's Party Ball?

Posted by: DadRyan | June 30, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I think it's a good idea. With an autumn league championship and limited competitive roster sizes, all these non-league tournaments do is to weaken MLS club's ability to maintain a high-level of play.

While they're at it, they should scrap SuperLiga too.

Posted by: TCompton | June 30, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

SuperLiga is now essentially the new Copa Sudamericana for CONCACAF

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | June 30, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Super SudaSuperLigaAmericana?

@DudeAbides: was that you today on the Arlington pitch?

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 30, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Super SudaSuperLigaAmericana?

Just say the word! Phil Collins song, right?

Posted by: Reignking | June 30, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Good to hear, hopefully it will cause our Champions league to expand a bit more.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | June 30, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Juan-John | June 30, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"And I'm done with CONCACAF!"

- Julie "Suda" Americana

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 30, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Off topic

Goff, is there really no transfer speculation on Any of the starting eleven that beat Spain and then showed their quality against Brazil?

A club in Greece wants Altidore? Super. He is now as wanted as Clint Mathis.

What do we have to do to get people willing to buy our players? Beat the all time allstar team with seven players on the pitch? This is absurd.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 30, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I remember reading somewhere that MLS teams would be part of the InterLiga qualification process starting in 2009? This was back before SuperLiga was created? Let me find that press release ...

Posted by: Charisma_Man | June 30, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

>A club in Greece wants Altidore? Super. He is now as wanted as Clint Mathis.

Olympiakos >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ergotelis

Posted by: Reignking | June 30, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Reignking, I think we disagree about a league that doesn't give you anything but space to run. Altidore is a player with a lot of potential, and he needs minutes at a serious club. That doesn't have to be Villareal, but Greece just isn't it. It's a step down in a year where he shouldn't be doing it. Last on my list, there has to be a better suitor.

Fulham would be fine, as would any Spanish side that is willing to start a raw physical talent in their lineup.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 30, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@Juan-John: Now I want to read the whole book. Great link.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | June 30, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

How about the winner of Sudamerica and the CONCACAF Champions league play a game every year in the ideal middle location on a barge in the Panama canal?

Posted by: csd1 | June 30, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse


Rennes is said to be interested in Clark. Davies has rumors about clubs in the Netherlands, Germany, and...somewhere else I can't remember.

As for Altidore, I've got to disagree to a certain extent with how unhappy you are with Olympiacos as a suitor. It's highly likely that they'll qualify for either the CL or the Europa League. There's also the question of pressure: Olympiacos is a huge club in Greece. Altidore needs to play in that kind of demanding atmosphere if he's going to make it at the even bigger clubs we all expect him to go on to.

I don't know if Olympiacos is perfect (outside of games with Panathinaikos, AEK Athens, and a couple of other clubs, the league itself doesn't offer much), but Altidore needs lots of minutes at a decent level more than he needs occasional use as a sub in La Liga. Playing at Olympiacos will likely mean lots of time on the field, with the big domestic games and European matches giving him the added benefit of being a relied-upon starter against a top-flight opponent. In my opinion, you're making it out to be much worse than it would be.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | June 30, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

If you really know the innerworkings of the Greek League, more power to you -- I certainly don't! I have more of an outsider's perspective of Olympiacos and its accomplishments.

Posted by: Reignking | June 30, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Gilberto Silva, a starter on the Brazil team that beat us on Sunday, plays for Panathinaikos, who along with Olympiakos, are the top teams in Greece. These leagues don't have the parity rules of MLS (salary cap, draft, etc.) One team can be vastly superior to another team. Think of the Scottish league. There's a huge difference between playing for Celtic/Rangers and playing for St. Mirren. That's essentially the comparison you're making with Jozy Altidore and Clint Mathis.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | June 30, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Grant Wahl is a helluva reporter. I don't doubt a word in that article. It's incredible that he got Donovan to talk so much. Lucy, there's gunna be trouble!!!! Can't wait to watch the dysfunction in LA.

Posted by: dsheon1 | June 30, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

No doubt. I actually feel a little bad for Lalas now. Geez Louise...
Makes you wonder what kind of vibe was going on in the DCU locker room when Gallardo was off "healing up"....:-/

Posted by: DadRyan | June 30, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

If Jozy goes to Greece, his career will be in runes.

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 30, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in fava of his going to Greece.

Posted by: Reignking | June 30, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Are y'all parthen' me on?

Posted by: fischy | June 30, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Olympiakos: where you learn to seperate the men from the boys...

PTI covered the Beckham book. They were not complementary of Becks. This could be the best outcome for MLS at the divorce, Americans still have a massive chip on our collective shoulders, we hate being 'disrespected' by furreners, people might rally around mls a bit...

Posted by: joshuaostevens | June 30, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Runes isn't Greek, it's Old Germanic (Norse, Anglo-Saxon, et. al. ). Only if Jozy goes to Norway will his career be in runes.

Posted by: b18bolo | June 30, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

so does that leave D.C. United's poor performance in the Coppa Sudamericana as MLS's only appearances?

Posted by: patrickneil | July 1, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Can Jozy afjord to go to Norway?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | July 1, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

b18bolo = rain on parade.

Posted by: joedoc1 | July 1, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

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