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DCU Matchnight #13 - DCU vs. Red Bulls

Greetings from Estadio RFK. It's a rainy Thursday, which should be no surprise to loyal D.C. United fans, who remember that exactly one year ago today D.C. played 15 minutes of a scoreless draw with the Houston Dynamo before a torrential downpour forced the game to be canceled.

D.C. United eventually lost the game, 2-0, when it was finally replayed more than a month later.

That was the only time in the history of the franchise that a game was canceled due to weather, and there will be no such cancellations today, pending any major disasters. Though the weather should make my drive halfway to Radford tonight (Harrisonburg, anyone?) for tomorrow's Virginia AA state soccer semifinals a joy.

Traffic wasn't the greatest all the way in here to RFK. It took me about 45 minutes from Arlington...usually a 15 minute drive. So kudos to those who make the trek out here.

I'll have the starting lineup for you soon. Until then, here is my prediction:

Wicks; Namoff, Jakovic, Burch; Pontius, Jacobson, Simms, Wallace, Fred; Emilio, Quaranta

DCU Starting Lineup: Wicks; Namoff, Jakovic, Burch; Quaranta, Wallace, Simms, Pontius, Fred; Emilio, N'Silu
Subs: Kocic, Moreno, Jacobson, Khumalo, McTavish, Gomez, Janicki

TV: ESPN2/Deportes

Feel free to fire your thoughts on a first XI here.

I will post my postgame thoughts and player rankings after the game, and will try to sneak in some updates/comments on the blog here and there during the run of play.

And as usual, this is your place for pregame, in-game and postgame thoughts. We had an ugly and offensive comment in last night's matchnight thread, let's try to keep this one a bit more cordial intelligent, shall we?

By Paul Tenorio  |  June 4, 2009; 6:10 PM ET
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Comments

Re: Starting eleven, tactics, etc;

Whatever Chest is soon to say.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Another hour to stuff ballots for Sonia as WPS player of the month

http://fancorner.womensprosoccer.com/

Posted by: OWNTF | June 4, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to talk about the proper use of the word "gringo." Or the improper use thereof.

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 4, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Several people wanted to know why I said Khumalo or N'Silu might be good choices given the weather.

Basically, in conditions like this, technique suffers. Things like speed, however, do not. If anyone remembers the Puerto Rico - Santos game from last year's CCL, the weather was awful and Santos, despite having the technical advantage by a mile, looked second best all night. Puerto Rico, meanwhile, relied on strength, speed, and simplicity.

I wouldn't expect either to start, but I think they'd be difficult subs for NY to have to deal with.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | June 4, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

On a serious note...

After the debacle of last game, I think the boys are ready to give a beat-down -- and hapless NY is an ideal recipient.

Emilio with a brace as United wins 3-0.

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 4, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"I'd like everyone here to feel welcome and comfortable, that's why I'd like to talk to you about Jesus"

-Jim Gaffigan.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

from DCU's webpage/twitter feed

Starting lineup: Wicks, Namoff, Jakovic, Burch, Quaranta, Wallace, Simms, Pontius, Fred, Emilio, N'Silu

Subs: Kocic, Moreno, Jacobson, Khumalo, McTavish, Gomez, Janicki

Posted by: emanon13 | June 4, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

From DC's Twitter feed:

"Wicks, Namoff, Jakovic, Burch, Quaranta, Wallace, Simms, Pontius, Fred, Emilio, N'Silu"

I'm going to guess that Wallace is not in a central role, and that it looks more like this:

-------------- N'Silu - Emilio
--------------------- Fred
Wallace - Pontius - Simms - Quaranta
------- Burch - Jakovic - Namoff
------------------- Wicks

Subs: Kocic, Janicki, McTavish, Jacobson, Khumalo, Gomez, Moreno

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | June 4, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

United tweet says Pontius has 3 goals in 2 games vs. NY. Could this guy be any more on his way to being a legend? (Okay, bad word, but, he's shown up, shown off, and killed New York, maybe hero?)

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Cordial? Intelligent? But it's. Red bulls game, those things do not go together at all!

Posted by: joshuaostevens | June 4, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

What a Bradleyesque lineup! I think it is great that he is playing Pontius out of position at D-Mid. You know because Pontius is know for his great defense. Maybe Soehn should be the next US Nats coach.

Posted by: no_recess | June 4, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Chest,

Regarding N'Silu/speed, sound reasoning. Also, I would think the way he torched NY's back line in the Open Cup play-in might have factored into his inclusion in the starting 11.

Posted by: Kenobi | June 4, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I'll drop the bomb here.

Does anyone actually think that Ching is better than Pontius? Different skill set? Yes. But Ching is only scoring off headers in a league where service is pretty easy to get. Pontius is solid in just about every department, and actually scores.

I like the lineup, and it rewards a few people for playing well. I really don't think we have any more depth at D-mid, (getting rid of Vide is starting to grind me). Jacobson, start showing the grit.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 4, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

no_recess,

You do know that Pontius has played at LB in college and played CM in his last game vs. NY, right? Defense isn't an issue, and his ability to spray balls will be much greater.

Posted by: jason1551 | June 4, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The formation on DCU's website shows Wallace playing in the middle

Wicks
Namoff — Jakovic — Burch
Quaranta — Wallace - Simms — Pontius
Fred
Emilio — N'Silu

Posted by: emanon13 | June 4, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

lineup looks good - although right now any back line without Wynne or Beasley is great!

Posted by: Beckster1 | June 4, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Why do these coaches keep playing players out of position? It's ok when you are in a bind but not for everyday. Certainly not when facing quality opponents (Costa Rica) in hostile environments (Costa Rica).

Posted by: tundey | June 4, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

But until he proves he can play with his back to goal, physically abuse international defenders, and think ahead of the game laying off passes and throughballs and such, he doesn't replace what Ching does, ergo, he won't be replacing Ching.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"pinche gringo" BAD, "gringuito" GOOD

Posted by: delantero | June 4, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone actually think that Ching is better than Pontius?

Right now? Yes, clearly. In five years? No.

Will Soehn please play Party Boy with Emilio? Please. I just want to see him play striker for a few games. Put Tino at Right mid with Wallace at left.

Posted by: delantero | June 4, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

In five years, Ching will be thouroughly retired.

I don't expect Pontius to get any worse.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 4, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

""In five years, Ching will be thouroughly retired.""

The LA Galaxy US MNT Retirement program will surely take him . .

Posted by: delantero | June 4, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Ching and Pontius are different types of forwards. Ching is a scrappy forward who scores by being in the right place at the right time. He works very hard to create space and is an above average finisher. Pontius is a good-around forward who can play as center forward or out and out. And his technique is very good, and so is his tactical awareness. Pontius is like a young Jamie Moreno. Pontius will be gone next summer if he keeps this up.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | June 4, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey my gringos...

Nice early kickoff. Watch until Burn Notice, then continue on the laptop...

Posted by: Reignking | June 4, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. I'm just going to pray they show it again. Soon.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 4, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Please, no spoilers on the show for those who may be watching.

Looks a little empty...

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Demon, if you mean Burn Notice, it should be getting replayed at midnight. Or 1.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

And this is the last thing I'll say till this game is over.

The problem I have with Ching is that the only thing people can say about him is that he can play with his back to goal.

That is not something that any other striker can walk onto his national team on. He has to be a goal machine as well. It's like saying a winger should play because he can run.

It sounds like people are saying that, because Pontius can create his own shots, that he isn't in the same class as Ching, who only acts a faciliator for the National team. Something wrong here. And why we didn't see Adu and Davies until we were desperate.

It's nice to have a target striker, but if you don't have a complete one, rethink the attack.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 4, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

So if Brian Ching is the "poor man's Brian McBride", is PartyBoy the
"rich kids Brian Ching"?

Now you guys are putting out BN spoiler alerts!? Wild man, Wild! You guys really just wish Miami Vice was still on don't you?:-)

check this out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOcS0WlX3YE

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Nice to be able to watch the Black and Red again down here in Raleigh, NC. I definitely miss attending the matches. Too bad the game is tonight and not Saturday night when we'll be in town.

Dumb question...who is Party Boy?

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

SPOILER ALERT: Gabrielle Anwar wears a short dress!

Oh, this isn't the Burn Notice thread?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 4, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

GOAL SANTINO!!

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Because I'm a nerd, I listened to the commentaries on the season one dvds, where she revealed the only scene in season one where she wore a bra is the one she didn't have a shirt on for.

GOAL TINO!!!!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

If Emilio and N'Silu are gonna play together, one of them needs to do their hair differently

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

The commentators on ESPN2 keep confusing Pontius for Quaranta.

Posted by: KHSpartan11 | June 4, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

That right there settles the Pontius/Ching debate. Chris has no left foot, or else that would have been 2-0.

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

OMG that should've been a NYRB goal.

Posted by: Reignking | June 4, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Dumb question...who is Party Boy?

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7sFZQiEHJ4

Both these dudes have the same name...
http://www.dcunited.com/player/chris-pontius

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Maybe ESPN will stop shoving mics in supporters sections' faces after tonight's loud and clear comment relating a New York player to a certain part of a male dog.

Posted by: notafembot | June 4, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

After all the drama of Osorio leaving Chicago I don't think he's gonna have a job in NY much longer... I say he's got 2 more losses.

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Pontius/Quaranta and N'Silu/Emilio... similar much?

Posted by: carmines757 | June 4, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

NAFB-
Only if the FCC catches on. Do they watch ESPN?

Posted by: mason08 | June 4, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

For the bizarro/duppleganger factor it's a shame Erpen isn't in the back with Jakovic.

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

This looks like a perfect opportunity for Gomez to score...

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

If the late season game in New England last year (I think I counted 8 or 9 audible f bombs from the players alone in the second half) didn't get the FCC's attention, that won't either. (But you never know what to think of the fellas at the freakin FCC).

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

F-the FCC... and the police.

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Party Boy...Pontius...got it!

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Ah, a red card...

Posted by: Reignking | June 4, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

That had to be one of the dumbest cards I've ever seen...

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

That was dumb by Emilio...Very selfish...

Posted by: alan19 | June 4, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Somebody shoot the G damn ball!!!

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Who has a worse first touch? Wynne, Beasley, or Clyde Simms?

Posted by: alan19 | June 4, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Who has the best touch? Wynne, Beasley, Simms, or a 3 feet thick brick wall?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey, he does have a left foot shot after all

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

This funny little song reminds me of parts of my childhood....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOhmyJ-wzOo

Gangsters, Punks, and Cholos, Hessians, Asians, and insane Ooosoohz...

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

can burch put it on goal?

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 4, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Tino got lucky to not get carded for that dive.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Safe to say that call would have easily gone against DCU if the roles were reversed?

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

these commentators are awful...almost as bad as the red bulls.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 4, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else feel a draw coming?

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, meant to say "fear a draw coming"

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Nice one into the upper deck by Burch...

Posted by: Reignking | June 4, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Huge save from Wicks!

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Wicks has been high quality tonight. Great to see.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

great save by wicks. we better stop jerking around in the back....

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 4, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Jeez boys...come on!!!

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Great ball - fortunately the Bulls didn't want it!

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

PK!

Posted by: MK27 | June 4, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Nice!!!! Easy call...

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Moreno and Gomez! Nice!

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 4, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Great work Gomez, other than an iffy touch, to round the keeper and get the pk. Great pass by 99.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Gomez sold it pretty well.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 4, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

hmm...think Gomez sold that.

Posted by: Reignking | June 4, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

"As effortless as his effor tonight"

WTF is that supposed to mean? Is that a compliment?

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

"effort" that is.

Yeah, a little premature on my comment about the PK. :)

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah!
Looks like Wicks is our man??????.
Agggghhhhh!
Damn. I feel better tonight than I did 20 hours ago...

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

When did that old Greek goalie start playing forward for NY?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

A trophy?

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 4, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Nice trophy. Is that thing plastic? Moreno isn't even struggling to carry that thing!

Posted by: rss317 | June 4, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

They may be "old", but this team is SOOOOO much better with Moreno and Gomez on the field.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Thoughts:

Emilio needs to cool it, and give respect to a legend. He was going to give Moreno minutes regardless; I can see why he is annoyed, as he was doing a lot of stuff right. He'll have a game to chillax.

I think we needed this game. We played a team solidly, who, against us, does nothing but score after we think we're in the clear. Our defense improved, Wicks is starting PEriod.

Now we just need to work on the dynamics of players forward and defending.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 4, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

jacob,

. . . unless they've been on the field for :15 already.

Posted by: notafembot | June 4, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I think Emilio is in another scoring "slump"...He hasn't scored in a while, and I think he is frustrated by that...Well now he won't be scoring in the next game too...

Posted by: alan19 | June 4, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see us take care of NY again. First game I've seen on tv in a while (no comcast in Asheville). The boys still look sluggish but we outplayed an eastern conference foe. No sound so not quite sure what happened with Emilio. Barra Brava looked to be rockin for a Thursday night. DR no need to go off the deep end after last night! Peace y'all goodnight.

Posted by: evanskr521 | June 4, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Luci's card was stupid but not the dumbest in United history... anyone remember when Hristo and Bobby Convey got into a fight on the field and Hristo got carded for hitting HIS own teammate?

Posted by: benmadden2 | June 4, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

this is the cleanest version of this song I've ever heard... I love youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sAVpxJxsCE

Posted by: DadRyan | June 4, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

ok, credit to Soehn for the subs (we give him crap when he's wrong, so let's give him props when he's right!) although, to be honest, having Gomez and Jaime on the bench is a luxury few teams have. one of them is going to start against the Fire at least.

Posted by: joshuaostevens | June 4, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

man, Wicks is freakin' good.

Posted by: abgcunited11 | June 4, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Luci's card was stupid but not the dumbest in United history... anyone remember when Hristo and Bobby Convey got into a fight on the field and Hristo got carded for hitting HIS own teammate?

===

Violent Conduct is Violent Conduct whether against an opponent, teammate, official, team official, or spectator.

Posted by: mason08 | June 4, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Could've won by more, but I never felt uncomfortable except from about the 80th-85th minute. Solid win by us. Gomez should've scored on one of his first two touches, did well to win the PK.

Posted by: carmines757 | June 4, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentleman....

We have a goalie...!!!!! MOTM - Josh Wicks!! Thanks for the fist pump, after the game. Kinda reminds me of Crayton last year -- with the enthusiasm.

Let this put to bed all the nonsense about who is United's best option at keeper. If Wicks keeps playing like this, the question will be whether he's the best 'keeper to ever man our goal. You like Crayton? Convince the coaches that Kocic isn't ready to be the #2. Wicks is da man.

Rodney Wallace's best game -- maybe he belongs in the middle? Pontius didn't find the back of the net, but he is getting better -- turning into a dangerous player. When he starts finishing those plays, he's gonna be legendary.

I know. I know. Don't get carried away. The Bulls stink, and we nearly gave away the points again. But, man - United looked pretty good. Nice to hit that kind of form with the Fire coming in next week. If DCU has any designs on winning the East, winning that game is probably a big piece.

Posted by: fischy | June 4, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Finally, 3 points!! I need to change my underwear.

Posted by: KireDCU | June 4, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Why did Emilio get the red card?

Posted by: SoehntheExit | June 4, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

BTW -- where was everybody? I came out. I looked for all of you....

Posted by: fischy | June 4, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

From what I heard on the radio after the game, Emilio was throwing water bottles and using abusive language.

Posted by: fischy | June 4, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

When Emilio got pulled he kicked something (Gatorade cooler?) and it bounced back onto the field. So maybe time wasting, and it was his 2nd yellow.

I think the Moreno / Gomez combo worked well with the dicey field. Slow things down, spring folks as needed. We had great control of the ball for the last 30 minutes.

Posted by: eadc | June 4, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Because I'm a nerd, I listened to the commentaries on the season one dvds, where she revealed the only scene in season one where she wore a bra is the one she didn't have a shirt on for.

GOAL TINO!!!!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 4, 2009 8:14 PM |
********************

Nice buildup.

Did the TV cameras catch Emilio saying anything at the AR before he got "tossed" for dissent or whatever after he was subbed out?

I'm OK with him getting a yellow if he saids something nasty to that AR, but otherwise (like if he got it for kicking junk onto the field) it would seem like over-refereeing from the AR.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | June 4, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that's pretty lame. I thought the ref was pretty one-sided all night, esp. on the calls against Emilio, his yellow was a joke.

Posted by: SoehntheExit | June 4, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

that was a direct red card not a second yellow.

Terry Vaughn has now had two terrible matches on national TV in a row. His foul recognition would get him booted out of the U-6s. Just a total disgrace.

Posted by: fedssocr | June 4, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

New post is up...with player ratings (eek).

Posted by: P-Ten | June 4, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Any idea why there were firetrucks at Lot 4 after the game? Made getting out of the lot interesting.

Posted by: Curious99 | June 4, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Emilio drought?
He had an assist last game, and a goal vs Chivas...
I'd hardly call it a drought. He's doing what he's gotta do.

Posted by: DadRyan | June 5, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

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