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Matchday: USA-Brazil

Confederations Cup
Kickoff: 10 a.m. ET.
TV: ESPN2.

USA LINEUP: Howard: Spector, Onyewu, DeMerit, Bornstein; Dempsey, Bradley, Kljestan, Donovan, Beasley; Altidore.

Watch. Enjoy. Discuss.

By Steve Goff  |  June 18, 2009; 9:30 AM ET
Categories:  Brazil , Confederations Cup , U.S. men's national team  
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Watch. in 12 hours
Enjoy. doubtful

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

...they don't play the CWS in the morning, do they?

Posted by: Section117 | June 18, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Are you all sure womens pole vaulting isnt going to pre-empt this match?

Posted by: strago | June 18, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

--------Robinho------Fabiano------------

-----Kaka------------------Ramires------

---------Gilberto-----Felipe--------------

Santos----Lucio-----Miranda-----Maicon

--------------Julio Cesar------------------


-----------Altidore-----------Donovan----------------

Beasley---------------------------------------Dempsey

-----------------Bradley----Kljestan------------------

Bornstein---Onyewu---------DeMerit-------Spector

-----------------------Howard---------------------------

Posted by: getanewnumber10 | June 18, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Bradley's options must be very limited to insert Beasley in the midfield.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Enjoy? With Emo and Beas in the starting line up? Man I hope so.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

FIFA.com reporting we are 1-12 vs. Brazil all time. Could we possibly pull a draw today?

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

lazy post goff. i'm disappointed.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Anyone got an English audio/radio site? Can't get the ESPN feed.

Posted by: isaac101 | June 18, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

DMB in the starting lineup = fail. I'm actually glad I have I won't be around to see most of this debacle. Ugh. JFT must be wondering why he chose to play for the US.

Posted by: SonicDeathMonkey | June 18, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather see Torres in middle, maybe Sacha on left I guess.

Posted by: JayW4 | June 18, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

GO USA!!!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | June 18, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

KEEP HOPE ALIVE

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm out. DVRing this one...

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, Donovan has his "serious" game face on...Brazil is in trouble (hardy har har)

Posted by: boricuabopper | June 18, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Brazil won the coin toss - game over.

Posted by: isaac101 | June 18, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

this is going to be a dive fest.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Come on, bobby, give Goff a break. He posted his rewind at 4 AM and then still manages to put this up 5 hours later. I hope that you were joking.

I just hope that we can get out of the first 10 minutes and last 10 minutes without yielding any goals. If we do that, we win 2-1.


Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

that was the worst foul call ever. bad defending too.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Oh well...so much for that. Seventh minute.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

i predicted a dive-fest, and a dive leads to Brazil's first goal.

1-0 Brazil. I took off work for nothing it seems...

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

2 phantom calls on bradley so far.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

That was a terrible call. But nothing can excuse that awful defending at the back post. Goal on an easy header Felipe Melo.
1-0 Brazil.
We look terrible.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Is Bocanegra still injured?

Posted by: no_recess | June 18, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Long, aimless balls out of the back. We can't put three passes together.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

DIVE COUNT - 3

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

DMB strikes again.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Joga bonita? they are diving all over the field. Pathetic.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Beasley is one of those players who should stay home in favor of getting a good look at a younger player. We need to start favoring talent over experience.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

did anyone know dempsey was on the field?
i didn't think so.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

embarrassing. the US' best play: THE CLEARING PASS. start putting me in the "fire bob bradley" crowd. come out this slow EVERY TIME? that's coaching.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Depressing

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Brazil gives plenty of space. We are just taking too much time on the ball.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"Long, aimless balls out of the back. We can't put three passes together."

Is this your first time watching the USA play? But still, your analysis is much better than john harkes...

Let's see freddy "boom boom" adu play, he lacks the defense and hustle back, but atleast he can control the ball with more than one person all over him...

Posted by: boricuabopper | June 18, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

beasley gets fouled b/c he freaks out when he can't pass it backwards and has to dribble forward.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Until he gets pushed.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse


Terrific cross on the free kick, but Howard needs to cut that ball off.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | June 18, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I refuse to believe that Brian Namoff is not in better form than half the US starters. Why are players like him not even thought of when these quasi-meaningless tourneys come around?

Instead, we use the same old Beasley's and Dempsey's that have done nothing for us.

Annoying.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

At least Harkes is being critical, no cheerleading. Nice to hear that.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

2-0. Robinho with a tap in.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

DMB strikes back.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

2-0 Brazil. Quick counterattack. Very poor organization at the back.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Get Damarcus Beasley off the fricking field right fricking now.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Beasley. Like Brazil needed MORE help. Can we credit DaMarcus with the assist on that one?

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Was that the most pathetic first touch you've ever seen (outside of under-10 youth league) leading to that goal?

Posted by: mercurysnake77 | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Now, I hope we get shellacked!!! We need change. I'm on the new coach bandwagon.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Holy crap! Brazil scores off OUR corner kick! Holy crap.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

This one's on Bob Bradley for starting Damarcus Beasley

Posted by: churtmah | June 18, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

BEASLEY with the give away off a corner, and it takes 4 seconds for Brazil to fly down the field and score. This is a clinic.

Fire Bradley.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

please never call up beasley again, and fire bob bradley immediately following confederations cup.

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Hey! Altidore's allowed to touch the ball!

Posted by: RiverOtis | June 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse


nice corner kick. WOW.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | June 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Amazingly, DMB is responsible for that goal, nearly 100 yards from his own net.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

robinho takes time to do an interview and get a massage after the goal.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

howard should have done better with that. should have known that ball was going to go to the middle. caught in no-man's land. this team couldn't beat new zealand right about now.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

This is probably for the best.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness for ESPN incompetence.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Worst I've seen us play in a long time. Give away after give away....

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Feed cut. Thanks...puts me out of my misery. Of course, I'll watch when it's restored. Holy s***!!!! That last exchange after Beasley f'd up on the corner. Bornstein with room and can't trap the ball. Onyewu finally up to Altidore and HE can't control the ball. Ugh.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse


Bets on the score when coverage resumes?

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | June 18, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I've never attacked Bradley, but I can't understand his selections and why we also seem so terrible at the beginning of matches. If we play like this, we're not getting out of the group stages next summer.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

this is an exhibition in the victory of individual skill over athletic teamwork.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Giveaway...giveaway...giveaway. Just can't do that.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

at least Bob can let the youngsters play vs Egypt.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

FIFA should've fronted the USA 4 gols to make this interesting...so tired of the USA play.

Possible new coaches - Bring up Thomas Rhongen from the U-20. and some of the younger generation.

I agree Harkes is critical, but he's a mooooron and very boring. He's no ray hudson fo' sho.

Posted by: boricuabopper | June 18, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

at least Bob can let the youngsters play vs Egypt.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but will he?

Posted by: RiverOtis | June 18, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Ha! Bradley gets stripped, and then sets a pick against Onyewu on behalf of Fabiano. Even our players that don't blow goats look terrible.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

out of the group stages? only way that is going to happen is if we're placed in a group with North Korea or Bahrain, and even that would be doubtful.

You're not going to get penalty kick game after game, which is what has bailed us out of CONCACAF qualifying

Posted by: churtmah | June 18, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

new usa coach suggestions:
1) dick advocaat
2) johan neeskens
3) bruno metsu
4) NOT kilinsmann

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

On the plus side, at least Spector clearly cares.

Beasley has seriously sucked for the past 3 years. Why does he keep getting called up?

Posted by: PindarPushkin | June 18, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Will we show the heart Egypt showed? Of course not. Sorry. Hate to be so critical to our boys, but this is so frustrating.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

We don't have any composure when we have the ball. We're turnover machines out there.

Posted by: Rosslyn45 | June 18, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

What's going on with our midfield? There's absolutely no pressure at 35 yards from goal? I can't accept that Clark is the answer.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Beasley's best move is "Terrible Pass Followed by Falling Down". I wonder if they are going to try and make that a special move in FIFA 10.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

let this fact marinate for a second: our left side is made up of bornstein and beasley. uff...

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Halftime subs I'd like to see:

Namoff for Bornstein
Quaranta for Beasley
Simms for Klejstan

More seriously....... lets get Adu and Torres in there - it can't get much worse.

Posted by: isaac101 | June 18, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

You know what would make us better? Sub in NO ONE for Beasley. We're better with 10 men than Beasley+10.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

At half time, Damarcus Beasley is being removed from the national team player pool on my copy of Fifa09

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse


What? I think it's nice Bradley lets his son play midfield, and lets his grandson play left back.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | June 18, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Does that count as a shot?! AWESOME! Where's LL Cool J? Don't call it a comeback!

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

If I were Brazil, I would just go down the right side of the field on every play.

The US should really start a left back academy (and maybe supplement it with a left midfield academy).

Seriously, have we ever had a decent left fullback? I know it is one of the most difficult positions to fill in soccer (see DCU: Marc Burch) but still.

Posted by: churtmah | June 18, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

johnathan spector just needs to make better crosses, and he'd be PERFECT!

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

At least Donovan is still pushing. Those were some good moves on the sideline.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

why did donovan pass that ball?

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

i am so sick of this INFERIORITY complex. ANYTIME this team plays a world power, they come out with TOO MUCH RESPECT for their oppositions. hence the nerves. hence the giveaways.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I know they're playing two of the best teams in the world, but the USA women could do better...

Posted by: boricuabopper | June 18, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Bornstein looks that bad. Beasley is supposed to be covering out on a lot of those plays when Bornstein has to tuck in. Harkes is right there at least.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

i'll say this for beasley, he still knows how to fall really well!

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

what is wrong with howard?? he is incredibly timid on these crosses. add goalie to our list of needs.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I know they're playing italy and brasil, but the USA women could show more than this...

Posted by: boricuabopper | June 18, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

robinho with the swan dive.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I think that Howard is playing fine...he just doesn't trust his defense to cover a side to give him confidence to come off his line.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh...isn't this where they scored their first goal from?

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Wow, DMB even falls when kicking the ball, now.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm upset - Bradley decided to take a weak team to the Copa America specifically to focus on this competition.

Now - we've had our asses handed to us for 2 straight games and were not invited to the next Copa America. Hope it was worth it, Bob ...

Posted by: timc3 | June 18, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Second half can't be any worse than that garbage. JFT and Adu would be nice subs to see.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

lol! did you see those usa fans "waving" their flags?! it looked like they were doing it because it was obligatory... fire bob bradley please.

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

we need the potato.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Need to get Beas and Dempsey off the field. Dempsey should ride the pine for awhile and Beas needs to get a nice gold watch, a certificate of participation and a wave goodbye

Posted by: mercurysnake77 | June 18, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Bradley has to sub in Torres for Beasley. I mean...right? There's no way he doesn't do that, right? I mean...right?

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Wow. I don't think the USA can afford to get any more corner kicks. One goal surrendered, and one yellow card for Onyewu. Our corner kicks have been breakout opportunities for Brazil.

Anyone else think Melo was offside on that first goal?

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

We're horrible. We're an embarrassment.

Someone ask Bradley why he keeps faith in Beasley---with so many poor performances recently---WHY does he get rewarded with a start, you clown?!

Posted by: delantero | June 18, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Bob must go. Need somebody with an outsider perspective. Beasley needs a long hiatus from the national team. we've actually regressed from 2006. it's not enjoyable to watch them anymore. even when we win it's boring. no one seems to care and everyone is timid.

Posted by: PindarPushkin | June 18, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

This team does not look like a very well coached team. I will say this for the first time: Bradley needs to go.

Posted by: GoUnited | June 18, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

we are marginally better than new zealand, and worse than south africa. if we continue like this, next year we will be the worst team at WC. we could not beat noth korea.

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Onyewu has never impressed me. He's clumsy at times, slow often makes bad decisions and is quick to temper. I would rather play against Onyewu then with him. I would constsntly insult him during game and he would end up with a red card.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | June 18, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Hey! Sure we stink at soccer, but it's not our sport. When it comes to our national pastime -- baseball -- we kick ass in international competition! Oh, wait.....

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I want to see Adu and Torres too.

I don't think Dempsey is our biggest problem by a long shot.

Yeah, if I'm Brazil I'd always attack DMB and Bornstein on the right ... Spector and Donovan much better on the left.

I'm on board with consideration for a new coach. This is horrible. How many times do we have to see DMB? I thought Bob was getting it when he left Pablo at home, but ... apparently not.

Posted by: Cerealman | June 18, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

@churtmah

I think i'm with you on replacing Bob Bradley - and I know who they should replace him with: Roy Hodgson.

What's not to like?

1. International Experience
2. English Speaker
3. Experience with lesser leagues (Norway)
4. Overcomes lack of talent, with tactical acumen
5. Brings value out of Clint Dempsey

Posted by: osgoodfan | June 18, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

ANOTHER thing that pisses me off about bob bradley: after the italy game he said "well, in these types of tournaments if you lose the first game you have two more games to try to move into the next round." that's not true bob, you dumba55!!! if you lose your first game, your next game is do-or-die! he reminds me too much of bruce arena. :(

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Casey? Wrong answer.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

i think Onyewu and LD have been our best players so far in the tourney.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Thumbs up on Casey!

Posted by: Cerealman | June 18, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Connor Casey? Am I missing something?

Posted by: RiverOtis | June 18, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I've never been on the fire Bradley bandwagon, but his choices this tournament have been puzzling and failed. The team is clearly regressing. If Beasley is on the field for the start of the second half Gulati should come down to the field and fire Bradley mid-game.

Posted by: mfrahm | June 18, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

nice layoff by casey actually...promising... *comes back from dead due to hopefulness*

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

hit it with your purse next time bornstein.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 18, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

YES!!! take a long shot! =)

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I think that Casey is a good choice and answers a lot of our requests. He's been hot in club competition this year, is a new face, and has good potential.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I miss Hejduk.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

We don't look like complete muppets this half...is the field slanted in one direction or something? Or is Brazil already started resting up for Italy? Whoever loses that match gets Spain in the semis.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Not that I'm rooting against us, but how is that not a yellow card on Donovan? I'd call it a bear hug, but he's so tiny...cub hug?

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Sasha attacks this time. Thanks to Howard...we didn't pay for it this time.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Beasley seriously needs to retire from NT duty if the past games are indicators of his ability. And this is coming from a Beasley fan.

Posted by: FatSickBoot | June 18, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

OK, we did pay for it. Idiot.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

OK. I'm outta here. Let's just start the Egypt match with 10 players.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Um...they are HANDING OUT those irritating damn horns? For FREE?!

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Just looked up "lazy" in the dictionary, and saw Altidore's picture.

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 18, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

That's a YELLOW.

Not a red.

What's the dive / fake injury count up to now?

Posted by: Cerealman | June 18, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

...

Did Torres/Adu break the heart of Michael Bradley's sister?

Posted by: B_A_ | June 18, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Not BF! Come on, Bradley, try someone else who is actually healthy.

Add Sasha to the go home list.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Who ever is the producer of the feed from SA better not be there next year for the World Cup. I had no idea that the ref ever gave Sasha a red card.

Posted by: RedDevil1 | June 18, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

God, did Torres pork Bradley's wife? wtf?

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Okay, so Clark and Kljestan are banned to the Mastroeni school of 'How NOT to Screw Your Team' until further notice. At least the central midfield is cleaned up a bit. Feilhaber will be ready for the World Cup if he's playing at his club this year.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

On the bright side, this could be a very nice last half hour for Brazil. Lets hope they try to run up the score.

Oh, and fire bradley.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

WHAT! Feilhaber? I am dumbfounded.

Posted by: CityBlues | June 18, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, that was a justified red. Sasha lost the ball and immediately came up on a hard, unjustifiable foul. He was being stupid and immature, but I think we're better without him on the field.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I may have just climbed on the Fire Bob Wagon. How is it you don't take Dempsey off there?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else looking forward to the 2014 World Cup?

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

3-0. JOGA BONITO

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Was there a hole on the side of the net?

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

lol, fielhaber looked like he didn't even want to go! he looked like there were about 74 billion other places he'd rather be. awesome!

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if it was tough for Feilhaber to elect to play for the US over Brazil, his nation of birth.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

We've almost completely given up. I'll hand it to Donovan, though, he's the only one still playing out there.

I'm done with it. No need for player ratings on this one, Goff. Howard and Donovan were OK, everyone else played like NYRB.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

One word for the US performance: flaccid.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Lazy, worthless effort today. Did anybody come to play today? This is all on Bradley.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 18, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

These guys from Brazil are pretty good at this here game.

Posted by: comfortstarr | June 18, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

So far we've allowed six goals and scored one-on a PK. I agree with a lot of other posters' sentiment: the US has regressed.

Posted by: adam131 | June 18, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, that was a justified red. Sasha lost the ball and immediately came up on a hard, unjustifiable foul. He was being stupid and immature, but I think we're better without him on the field.

Posted by: figgy_va | June 18, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

You're totally out of it.

He barely touched the player. He got the red because the Brasilians are still a bunch of diving dogs. He was late which might deserve a yellow but a red was only because of the referee falling for the antics. He did not see the play and was covering for himself.

BOGUS

Posted by: BBFunnyMan | June 18, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if it was tough for Feilhaber to elect to play for the US over Brazil, his nation of birth.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Nicely done.

Posted by: Section117 | June 18, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I'm rubbernecking this car crash. Why do I continue to watch?

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Project 2014? 2018?

Posted by: jamest1 | June 18, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Dempsey's just too "cool" for this team. Sheesh, he doesn't work hard any more.

Posted by: EssEff | June 18, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I haven't written anything bad about Bob Bradley until now. But his team struggles to be where it is in CONCACAF and fails on the bigger stage. They make rash tackles and lose focus often.

I don't know how practical it is to switch coaches one year before the WC. Who would take a one-year contract with this team? So I think we're stuck with him for another year.

That said, he had better make some hard decisions for the Gold Cup. Find some players who are willing to fight hard for 90', who don't make stupid tackles or lose the ball, who chase down balls (Spector is embarrassing with his jogs), some players who are playing for the USA and not auditioning for a summer transfer.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Project 2014? 2018?

Posted by: jamest1 | June 18, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Optimistic, aren't we? Wait for the entire player pool to turnover AND home field advantage. 2022, here we come!

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

This is thisclose to being a dark day in American soccer.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

in bob bradley's head: "we still have a sub?...hmmm, maybe i should put in beasley??? i bet he could bring us back!"

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Someone mocked me for saying something like this before, but the entire Brazilian squad sang their national anthem before the game. I think Bornstein and Howard were singing ours and that's it. I feel like that says something about heart, or the lack thereof.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand why Torres hasn't gotten into any matches after Costa Rica.

The one question I have: What Would Jermaine Jones do?

Posted by: billindmd | June 18, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Forget subs. We're 3 goals and one man down. Put in Adu or Davies and ask them do do what?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Somebody tell Dempsey to get the f#)k up!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

@daandre3: I'm with you on the anthem. Bradley should have them stand and sing it before each practice until they understand who they represent.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

You definitely cannot blame this on FIFA officiating. We are just not good enough and Bradley sucks as a coach. This is the same crap that we faced in 2006. We have about four to five players that show better than average on the international level now:

Howard
Onyewu
Bocanegra
Donovan
Bradley

Altidore, Spector,and typically Dempsey are on the fringe. Other than that there is not much else. Hejduk is great, but the man is old. I am glad this tournament went down this way because Bradley should be shown the door if this team wants to be better than the WC 2006 team. I could see Jermaine Jones making the defensive MF better, but if Adu and Altidore do not start playing for their club teams we are a very mediocre team.

Posted by: no_recess | June 18, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I-270Exit1,

Ask Mexico.

(Yeah, not the same scenario)

Posted by: B_A_ | June 18, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I don't think it was a red, but it was stupid as anything.

One thing to notice is that it is almost MLS players who get these cards, and I think it's because they are allowed to get away with those sorts of fouls in MLS.

They aren't trained to not hack someone just because they lost the ball because they know that they won't suffer any consequences in MLS, but at the international level it just isn't tolerated. Of course, USSF has trained their refs not to call things, so that's not going to change any time soon

Posted by: Wyrm1 | June 18, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

@no_recess - Agree with you; although Donovan gets an asterisk because he's only good when he tries (like he did today).

I'm comfortable with our fullbacks for a change, Bornstein has looked light years better and Spector can replace Hejduk.

We have no attack, though. None. Ching, Altidore, Dempsey, Donovan, Casey, Twellman...no one has shown they can score from the run of play consistently.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

good to see that nothing has changed since 2006... :eyes roll:

Posted by: bonghits4gomez | June 18, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

sasha's foul was a red, just like rico's was. i agree that it is a function of all of the poor officiating in mls. those fouls would very likely not even be called in mls, but they are serious fouls...

THAT WAS A GOAL!!! ???

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

So close...

Posted by: sitruc | June 18, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I posted around a month ago the same thing: its time for the USMNT and Bob Bradley to go their separate ways. The team is not going to improve under Bradley.

DMB really has no business on this team and has not belonged on it for a while. Bradley has not been able to put a dominant or even a competitive side on the pitch in A games.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 18, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

oh, maybe it wasn't a goal... :(

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

i've been very impressed with spector. i'd put him on that "international level" category.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure he said "gosh darnit"...

Posted by: sitruc | June 18, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Well it's time to look at coaching and player performance. Believe me, there's a lot to look at. Might be too late for a coaching change but the player selection has to be scrubbed. Start by selecting players out. Bye-Bye Beasley. Go on from there. If we have to lose, do it with new faces. Cheers/ts

Posted by: tfshea | June 18, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

ANOTHER thing i have against bob bradley: he says adu needs to be playing regularly for his club team to get a chance with the national team...but apparently his boy beasly doesn't need to be playing for rangers! he played like 5 or 6 games for them all of last season. wtf?!

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

i hate clit dempsey. a flick like that down 3-0 when your team has a decent attacking chance and you have 2 WIDE open players...

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

lol, 21 shots given up last game...22 this game...so we should expect 30 from egypt???

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

can someone please check the size of that goal? is it regulation size?

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Is the CWS on yet?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 18, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Brazil should be ashamed of themselves for diving through out this match, when they clearly do not need to. They can play free flowing, fast paced, elegant soccer whenever they want. Why do they feel the need to cheapen themselves with diving and theatrics.

Posted by: jjfooty | June 18, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I'd like Tommy Smyth and Derek Rae to do the USA games on ESPN. They can call it like it is.

We stink. Harkes won't say it, though.

Posted by: Cerealman | June 18, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

No longer go to the Copa America to come to the Confederations Cup.

Posted by: ceu_carmesim | June 18, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Now that the pain is almost over, agree with a post I've heard a couple of times. The best we can take away from this game -

Spector is our new right back. Kljestan and Beasley are out of the pool until further notice.

This HAS to be a wake up call for either USSF or Bradley. He needs to get his ish together or we need a coach that will. I'd rather see us play like this now than in a year from now, and anything that could change how we've played since the 2007 Gold Cup is a good thing.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I would love to know what Bradlety's practices are like. After seeing the last two performances and the recent WCQ matches, I really am very curious.

Posted by: Washago | June 18, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Do I want to watch this game when I get home? Sounds like another display of pointless soccer from the US. The US team has no style of play. Are they a defensive team, an offensive team (hahahaha) or a counterattacking team? Who are they supposed to be? After all this time Bradley hasn't developed anything resembling a system or one player who wants to attack the other team's goal.

Posted by: Solnoir | June 18, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Good point about Beasley not playing for his club. Torres plays for his club yet can't get in a game since Costa Rica. Jozy doesn't even play for the club he was loaned to. Against Egypt there had better be a youth movement. Adu and Torres should get some minutes.

It seems like we are worse than were were 10 years ago.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 18, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

It appears www.firebobbradley.com is available...

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Dunga Galunga.

Dunga Galunga.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if it was tough for Feilhaber to elect to play for the US over Brazil, his nation of birth.

Posted by: daandre3 | June 18, 2009 11:21 AM |
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Best laugh of the day.

That said, Feilhaber was one of the few players that might belong on the same field as Brazil.

As Harkes said: "they need more Brazilians"... Are there any uncapped Brazilians with dual (Bra/US) citizenship?
Maybe, he said "resilience"...

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

This makes me feel better that my DVR is dead. I don't want to see this misery.

Posted by: Kenobi | June 18, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the team hasn't progressed but the posters on this thread have!

Bitter about singing the Anthem!

Yes! That's quality bloggage there!

:)

Posted by: JkR- | June 18, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I really don't understand why Bradley left a sub on the bench. Let Adu get his feet wet for a few minutes, and then give him a start on Sunday....

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

BTW -- I stand by what I said earlier this week. The USMNT would struggle to avoid relegation in the English Championship.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

The U.S. used to be a high pressure, defensively strong team characterized by fitness. They don't have any of that right now. They are completely lost.

Klesjtan how could you dive in like that after seeing the Clark and Mastroeni(2006)reds for exactly the same thing?

The whole team should be embarrassed.

Posted by: delantero | June 18, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

It seems like we are worse than were were 10 years ago.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 18, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

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We are 100% worse off than we were 10 years ago. In '99, we had just hired Bruce Arena, and were introducing a number of young, talented players into our lineup.

10 years later, those young, talented players suck.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Didnt you hear? Torres slept with Bradleys wife. There's no other explanation why he isnt in the lineup.

Beasely should NOT play for the US until he is getting regular ball. Same for Kljestan and Adu.

The team has gotten too complacent and everyone is assured of their spots. There's 4 guaranteed starters in my mind: Howard, Boca, Onyewu, Donovan. Everyone else should be fighting for their spot on the field everyday.

Posted by: strago | June 18, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Do I want to watch this game when I get home? Sounds like another display of pointless soccer from the US. The US team has no style of play. Are they a defensive team, an offensive team (hahahaha) or a counterattacking team? Who are they supposed to be? After all this time Bradley hasn't developed anything resembling a system or one player who wants to attack the other team's goal.

Posted by: Solnoir | June 18, 2009 11:49 AM

Some great individual displays by Brazil if you are interested.

And counterattacking? HA. A US player gets the ball on a turnover, turns up field and starts to advance the ball, looks up and finds no one making runs off the ball.

Do we expect Donovan to go 1 on 5 and score?

Posted by: mercurysnake77 | June 18, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

THe biggest problem the USMNT has is that none of these guys have real pace or ball skills. They can't hold possession. Brazilians got in their face when USA players had the ball, because they knew the USA players would turn it over -- and they laid off a little from USA players who were getting passes because they knew that first touch would get away from the Americans and come right to them.

The USSF needs to extend the Academy system into the crib. Adopt some infants and turn them into real soccer players.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

A dismal, disgraceful performance.

Technically and tactically deficient all over the field.

Don't just stop with firing Bradely; clean out the entire US Soccer coaching staff, top to bottom. We need fresh ideas in American soccer, and the current crop of coaches is not providing them.

Fire them all, forget SA 2010 -- even if we make it, the US team will be humiliated in going 0-3 -- and we may have something in time for 2014, if we bring in youth and senior national team staff who know how to develop technically and tactically sophisticated players. Which pretty much rules out every American coach out there.

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 18, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"Do I want to watch this game when I get home?"

No. It'd be a waste of time. Not one good thing to take from it . . unless the one brain cell in Bradley's head finally decides to can Beasley.

Posted by: delantero | June 18, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Bob Bradley needs to go. This team is uninspired. They are complacent. You are playing Brazil in South Africa, where the next year's World Cup will be, and you are bored! BORED! Incredible.

There are 20 minutes left to go in the game and you have one sub left. Oh, but the game seems to be going well. Clint Dempsey is playing great. Connor Casey is running his butt off. No need to make any changes.

Only Donovan and Howard seemed to care today. Bob Bradley certainly didn't. He needs to go.

Posted by: diego_r | June 18, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how practical it is to switch coaches one year before the WC. Who would take a one-year contract with this team? So I think we're stuck with him for another year.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 11:27 AM |
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um, I know a coach whose team isn't going to the World Cup and I hear is "auditioning" during this tournament.

It's Bora time!!!

Posted by: diego_r | June 18, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

bruno metsu took senegal to the quarter finals in 2002 after only a year with the team.

bring in dick advocaat, or johan neeskens, or buno metsu!!! >:O

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Bora would be an interesting choice....

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Not that today's players were any good, but i don't understand the love for Torres. His inability to let his right foot even get a whiff of the ball is a huge liability, especially at this level. I don't think he's the answer.
Complete overhaul is needed. At this point I would settle for a less-talented but more hard-working, hungry and spirited roster. E.g., field an all-MLS team. I'm getting a little tired of the Europe-based players and their apparent sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Washago | June 18, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

A. Lalas as coach? At least he recognizes that the US side has major problems whereas B. Bradley has a very unrealistic and optimistic view regarding their potential.

Posted by: tfshea | June 18, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

So do you think we could even beat New Zealand at this point? WTF?

Posted by: rss317 | June 18, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

@: JkR- | June 18, 2009 12:01 PM

Here's my thing. I'm a naturalized citizen - an American by choice - and I'm lucky to be one. I feel proud to sing the Star Spangled Banner loudly, when the rest of the fans reluctantly stand out of obligation, because it means something to me. My 7 year old noticed me doing this a year ago and he learned the words from me (and youtube). My 5 year old knows the lyrics better than most adults.

Look. I know we're not living in a Norman Rockwell painting. But most jus soli American citizens take their birthright for granted and do not understand how the flag and the Star Spangled Banner are powerful symbols of the United States for those of us not born here.

And when I see our players - who are supposed to represent the USA - standing because they have to and chewing gum, and when I see the opponents and their fans singing with pride, I feel sad.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

what a waste of time. you are not supposed to let the other team score on your corner kick! barf

Posted by: DadRyan | June 18, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

honestly, what is interesting about bora milutinovic? he is basically just a hired gun brought in by desperate federations. he is clearly not a long-term solution. why not dick advocaat? or johan neeskens? or buno metsu? (my order of preference.)

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

honestly, what is interesting about bora milutinovic? he is basically just a hired gun brought in by desperate federations. he is clearly not a long-term solution. why not dick advocaat? or johan neeskens? or buno metsu? (my order of preference.)

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse


at this point we are desperate...

Posted by: PVGtownAz | June 18, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

@PVGtownAz: i am desperate to get rid of bob bradley, but i am not desperate. the usa needs to start *developing*, not going from one stop-gap solution to another.

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Is there any doubt in everyone's mind that Bob Bradley should be fired?

Posted by: Barracudas | June 18, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I am shocked that Jose Mourinho has not popped into the discussion. I hated him at Chealea, but he is a master technician and motivator.

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

jose mourinho would never accept the usa job. he is a club manager and is very much in love with being in the day-to-day spotlight. being a national team manager means you are only in the spotlight a couple times a year, at most.

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Another pitiful performance. Personal player ratings:

Howard - 5
Spector - 4.5
Gooch - 7
Demerit - 5
Bornstein - 4
Dempsey - 4.5
Kljestan - 2
Bradley - 4.5
Beasley - 2
Donovan - 5.5
Altidore - 4.5

Subs:

Casey - 3
Feilhaber - 5.5

First with the really bad. Beasley and Kljestan. Just awful today. Beasley may have finalized playing his way off the rotation. Gave the ball away numerous times, didn't do anything dynamic, and was the initiating culprit on the 2nd goal. Kljestan was almost entirely invisible in the midfield, did nothing defensively (including being completely lost on the counterattack during the 2nd goal, and providing a very weak track), then drew a red card. Absolutely unacceptable.

Spector was actually a bright spot for most of the game, with the exception of his awful marking on aerial challenges. He was embarrassed on the first goal, then gave up at least one more (if not more) clean headers straight in front of goal. It's a shame, because he really did play well otherwise, being active up front and composed in the back.

Bornstein was owned on the left side. Brazil consistently picked on Bornstein, and it worked to great effect. He worked hard and got forward decently, but this was predictable for me. He was simply outclassed.

Demerit was solid. Nothing great, nothing terrible. Howard was left out to dry yet again, and made a few nice saves.

Posted by: psps23 | June 18, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Bradley was up and down this game. He wasn't nearly as effective as he normally is in disrupting the flow of the opposing attack, which is expected going against Brazil. He showed good vision, but was a touch off on a number of fairly simple balls that ended up being turned over.

Dempsey, for all his dancing, plays the game painfully slow. It kills the flow of the game. He's got good skill, is a creative mind, but he almost always allows the defense to set even if we're on a break. He's slowly falling out of favor with me. And he's awful on set pieces.

Donovan worked hard and made a couple (one in particular) impressive runs with the ball. He didn't have much help, but he's finally providing consistent effort out there. I've been happy with Donovan in this tournament.

Altidore once again was all alone up top, and he struggled as a result. He wasn't drawing the fouls he normally does, but he did draw a corner with some nice footwork in the corner, something we lack with our other strikers. As soon as Casey came in and Altidore had someone to work with, he made an impressive run and created the only US chance up to that point before getting pulled (which was an awful decision).

Casey was lazy, slow, weak on the ball, and did hardly anything on the field. He gets points only for his header of the crossbar (which was nice) and his one layoff to Altidore. Two positive touches in 40 minutes. Not nearly good enough.

Feilhaber played well as a substitute, including a great attempt that hit the crossbar, as well as displaying his patented vision. That 2nd center-mid spot should be his so long as he doesn't pull a Clark-Kljestan.

Posted by: psps23 | June 18, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I posted this in the Kickaround thread, but maybe it belongs here:

I decided to watch a recording -- of the first Brazil goal. Utter crap, on several levels. First, the free kick was a total gift. Bradley puts his hand on Ramires's arm for an instant, and then pulls it away -- without pulling on the Brazilian. Then, the Brazilian dives.

On the actual free kick -- a bit of disorganization. Watching live, I thought Melo was offside. I'm guessing Spector did, too...when he let Melo get in front of him. But, DeMerit failed to hold his ground as a Brazilian player charges into him. This moves DeMerit back, arguably playing Melo onside. It's close enough anyway.

As dominant as Brazil seemed, if they don't get that phantom foul call, and if Beasley doesn't make that hideous error on the short corner pass, this game might have ended very differently.

That is not to say that USA is really competitive, but if you look at the rest of the game... Maybe Kljestan doesn't get sent off, and maybe Brazil doesn't get that last goal a few minutes later. Howard made some big saves, and the USA hit some crossbars. The rest of the game doesn't look so lopsided, if you take away those first two goals which should never have happened.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I know this was a new game but Ricardo Clark jinxed this game too. We need players who are agressive at the right time, not thugs with vicious tackles in the middle of the field.

Posted by: GeneWells | June 18, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention Gooch. The lone truly bright spot today. I thought he played excellent and held the center of the pitch in check. It's a shame his teammates didn't step to his level. Great game by Gooch.

And on another note, I don't know what world Bob Bradley lives in that he thinks a good substitution when you're down 2-0 and playing with 10 men is to pull of a dynamic striker for a central midfielder, and sit in a 4-4-1. It's pathetic. I'm convinced he wasn't even attempting to win the game at that point, just trying to protect from a bigger loss. I've been slow to criticize Bradley too much, but that's unacceptable.

Posted by: psps23 | June 18, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what world Bob Bradley lives in that he thinks a good substitution when you're down 2-0 and playing with 10 men is to pull of a dynamic striker for a central midfielder, and sit in a 4-4-1.
Posted by: psps23
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Greg Ryan's world

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I agree with psps -- Gooch was out of this world today. The one player who looked like he could even crack the Brazil roster. He doesn't have the ball skills, of course, but he stepped up to be a big-time defender today. I bet his agent is thrilled.

It think this may have been his most solid effort to date -- though, I suppose some of that may be a product of the success Brazil was having moving the ball on the wings. Gooch wasn't challenged as much as he has been in other games. Still, I was impressed.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The only positive for the Yanks IS how completely awful they've played at the Confed. Cup.

Now it cannot be disputed: This US side is not good enough and cannot go to the World Cup as presently constituted. THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES.

IMO, with the exception of Timmy Howard and Gooch Onyewu, everyone's place in the starting XI is up for discussion.

I don't think Bob Bradley should be fired simply because of the Confed. Cup showing. However, the US must have a tactically astute coach. One of the reasons the Americans reached the QF of WC2002: Bruce Arena had a superior game plan to his Portuguese and Mexican opposite numbers. If Bradley can't do the same, get someone in who can.

The upcoming Gold Cup represents a great chance to overhaul the squad and give opportunities to younger, hungrier -- and hopefully better --players.

Or, how quickly can we get US passports for some qualty Brazilians who have no hope of playing for the Seleção? (hahaha)

Posted by: noahspurs | June 18, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Call me crazy, but Bob should call Marc Burch into camp.. I think he's lost his motivation this season. See if he can step it up. If not, no big deal. If he can play in CONCACAF, the we can have a servicable defender who can take free kicks away from Landon.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

One of the reasons the Americans reached the QF of WC2002: Bruce Arena had a superior game plan to his Portuguese and Mexican opposite numbers.
Posted by: noahspurs | June 18, 2009 2:31 PM

the other reason: the players actually finished their chances. the coach can't do much about finishing and he's not on the field playing, so those things are out of Bradley's control right now. even where lineup selection and tactics are concerned, he's limited by what his players are capable of. but certainly this group should be capable of better than this. and the way they've played at times (first 5 minutes of 2nd half today, for instance) shows that it can happen, but it's not happening consistently. we have a chance to improve this team over the next 12 months, and bringing in a new coach to do a full re-evaluation of the talent pool and tactics seems like it might be the best way to do that at this point.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 18, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Here's my thing. I'm a naturalized citizen - an American by choice - and I'm lucky to be one. I feel proud to sing the Star Spangled Banner loudly, when the rest of the fans reluctantly stand out of obligation, because it means something to me. My 7 year old noticed me doing this a year ago and he learned the words from me (and youtube). My 5 year old knows the lyrics better than most adults.

Look. I know we're not living in a Norman Rockwell painting. But most jus soli American citizens take their birthright for granted and do not understand how the flag and the Star Spangled Banner are powerful symbols of the United States for those of us not born here.

And when I see our players - who are supposed to represent the USA - standing because they have to and chewing gum, and when I see the opponents and their fans singing with pride, I feel sad.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 12:30 PM |
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Well in, I-270.

Posted by: joedoc1 | June 18, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Here's my thing. I'm a naturalized citizen - an American by choice - and I'm lucky to be one. I feel proud to sing the Star Spangled Banner loudly, when the rest of the fans reluctantly stand out of obligation, because it means something to me. My 7 year old noticed me doing this a year ago and he learned the words from me (and youtube). My 5 year old knows the lyrics better than most adults.

Look. I know we're not living in a Norman Rockwell painting. But most jus soli American citizens take their birthright for granted and do not understand how the flag and the Star Spangled Banner are powerful symbols of the United States for those of us not born here.

And when I see our players - who are supposed to represent the USA - standing because they have to and chewing gum, and when I see the opponents and their fans singing with pride, I feel sad.

Posted by: I-270Exit1

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Right on!!

I'm a 3rd generation American myself, and I feel as strongly as you about this. My 5 year old stood up and put his hand on his heart when he heard the Anthem played at the beginning of the game. I was already standing (folding laundry) and I was surprised that he did that. I explained to him that he didn't have to do that while watching at home on TV.

I get so mad at the folks who don't take their hats, off, talk, and yell the stupid "Oh."

I'm quiet and respectful when I hear other countries anthems, and I love to see those folks sing loud and proud. I wish more Americans felt like us.

Stepping down from the soapbox now.

Posted by: torrey151 | June 18, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Phone: (312) 808-1300

The switchboard operator is very nice.

If Sunil's box is full,

just ask for Ms. Sanchez

Posted by: lprevolution | June 18, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

My frustration with Bradley has been rising and now has reached the point where he needs to go. Why didn't pull Dempsey yesterday when we were up 1-0 with 10 men? Wouldn't you play for the 1-0 victory or 1-1 tie at worst in a World Cup situation? Why the continued love for DMB? Why can't Adu get on the field? Where is Cooper? This team is nowhere near the 2002 and we have one year before another potentially terrible world cup performance.

Posted by: restonhoops | June 18, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Here's my view on the National Anthem. I played at a very high collegiate level, and we obviously had the National Anthem played before every home game. Not once did I sing for it. It has nothing to do with obligation. It has nothing to do with a lack of pride. It has nothing to do with taking anything for granted. Plain and simple, I (and I assume many people) feel the effect much more simply by listening to it rather than chanting along. There's an intangible quality that's felt standing in the spotlight of a crowd, before an intense match, with adrenaline flowing through you, while hearing that song. You can "feel" the song, and for most athletes, it's the final piece of the routine that puts your mindset and focus into the game. Nothing gets you more pumped than listening to the anthem before a big match. Listening being the key word.

Anyway, that's my take. There is no lack of respect for the anthem, flag, or country simply because a player isn't singing. IMO, the effect is much, much more powerful (and meaningful) when it's felt from the inside rather than feeling the need to show it on the outside. Just my .02.

Posted by: psps23 | June 18, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

@I-270Exit1

From another naturalized citizen, I say well said, sir.

Not for nothing but maybe if these guys tried singing the anthem it would help with the pre-game jitters and get them juiced for the task at hand. Those are some powerful words and they have helped many an American through the tough and dark places in the world and in life. These are the words that inspired people like us to choose to become American. When I am at home watching a match I get up and sing the anthem and my kids join in, and we feel a swell of pride and love for our country - and we're just in the family room watching TV...

...it can't hurt to try.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 18, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Call me crazy, but Bob should call Marc Burch into camp.
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That was a joke, right? Here's a better idea: Naturalize Gomito.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm serious. As far as I can tell, Gomez has never worn the Argentina national jersey, at any level. He could adopt USA citizenship and play for us. The CAM we're missing. If he came on board, I bet he scores a free kick goal at the World Cup.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. Although I think that Burch lacks motivation this year, Bradley is not the one to provide it.

Gomez is a 45 minute player, maybe 60. We need a fit CAM because we'll be playing with 10 men for most of the match.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

If Gomito had a shot at playing in a World Cup? He'd push himself into the best shape of his career.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Party Boy for USMNT!

Posted by: DadRyan | June 18, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Can we please stop calling him Party Boy?

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

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