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Matchday: USA-Brazil

CONFEDERATIONS CUP FINAL
Where: Ellis Park Stadium, Johannesburg.
When: Kickoff at 2:30 p.m. ET.
TV: ESPN, Univision.

FINAL: Brazil 3, USA 2.

90+: USA not creating anything, time running out.

90TH: Donovan floats ball for Dempsey, too far, Brazil goal kick.

88TH: Donovan corner kick, Onyewu seven-yard header streaks over the crossbar.

88TH: USA substitution -- Casey for Clark.

85TH: Brazil goal!!! Elano corner kick, Lucio eight-yard header into left side of net. A three-goal uprising for Brazil, it's 3-2.

82ND: Robinho 22 yards well off the top right corner.

75TH: USA substitutions-- Bornstein and Kljestan for Altidore and Feilhaber.

74TH: Brazil goal!!! Kaka beats Spector on left side of box, crosses to Robinho for one-timer off crossbar, rebound falls to Fabiano for easy nod from three yards. 2-2.

71ST: Howard smothers Fabiano's bid behind USA defense!

70TH: Lucio yellow card for misbehavior.

67TH: Brazilian substitutions -- Alves and Elano for Ramires and Santos.

66TH: Dempsey from 22 yards, set up nicely by Clark, save.

65TH: Donovan 25 yards, lunging save.

63RD: Brazilian pressure continues, unmarked Lucio offside at back post on Maicon's cross.

60TH: Kaka header from six yards on an angle, Howard pushes ball out and off the underside of crossbar. Play continues despite Brazil's pleas for a goal call. Replays seem to show the ball completely over the line when Howard made contact!

58TH: Spector tackle on Kaka, corner kick, Howard reflex save on Lucio's back-side header!

55TH: Brazil free kick from 30+ yards, deflected by wall, then offside.

53RD: Davies should've done better with a counter after Donovan's hard work. Ball eventually taken from Dempsey.

51ST: Despite the goal, pace remains at USA's liking: slow, calculating.

46TH: Brazil goal!!! Luis Fabiano scores 38 seconds into the half, turning on DeMerit at 17 yards and skipping a low, hard shot into the right corner for his fourth goal of the tournament. 2-1, USA.

45+: Bocanegra deflects Maicon cross, just enough to steer it out of the path of Brazilian in the six-yard box. HALFTIME: 2-0, USA.

44TH: Feilhaber again clogs passing channel, ends Brazilian threat.

41ST: Howard leaping touch save on Robinho's shot.

38TH: Brazil free kick from 30+ yards, two touches and cleared, Davies wastes counterattacking opportunity.

36TH: Santos yellow card for pulling down Altidore. Free kick right side, Donovan service cleared over crossbar.

35TH: Howard spectacular reflext save at near post on Santos from eight yards.

32ND: USA playing with supreme confidence, probing for a third goal.

27TH: USA Goal!!! Donovan just inside the box to lower right corner, capping a perfect counterattack. Davies on left bends ball behind defender, Donovan cuts back into space and strikes left-footed shot. 2-0, USA.]


Landon Donovan scores the second U.S. goal on a counterattack. (Laurence Griffiths -- Getty Images)

26TH: Howard diving save on Maicon's bid to beat him to the near post.

25TH: Howard falling save on Melo's 24-yard blast.

20TH: As they did against Spain, USA defenders and midfielders blocking shots in and around the box.

19TH: Bocanegra yellow card for wrapping arms around Kaka's waist at midfield, prevents counter.

14TH: Davies draws corner kick, Donovan service headed by Bocanegra, deflected for another corner, scramble in the box, knocked away.

13TH: Howard excellent diving save on Robinho's low drive from left side.

10TH: USA Goal!!! Spector service from the right flank. Dempsey, in one fluid motion, volleys 12-yard shot into the far corner for his third goal of tournament.


Clint Dempsey scores the first U.S. goal on a volley. (Photo by Alex Livesey -- Getty Images)


9TH: Match unfolding at a methodical pace, which is beneficial to a USA team that doesn't want to get into a track meet with the fleet Brazilians.

7TH: Kaka near-post header off corner kick misses short side.

6TH: Maicon drives in three balls from the right, eventually another corner.

6TH: DeMerit diving header to clear Maicon's dangerous cross in the box: corner kick.

3RD MINUTE: Dempsey from 25 yards after nice build-up, shot bounces well wide.

USA LINEUP: Howard; Spector, Onyewu, DeMerit, Bocanegra; Dempsey, Clark, Feilhaber, Donovan; Davies, Altidore.

BRAZIL LINEUP: Julio Cesar; Maicon, Lucio, Luisao, Andre Santos; Gilberto Silva, Felipe Melo, Ramires, Kaka; Luis Fabiano, Robinho.

Before we turn our full attention to the championship game, let's savor the wonderful third-place match between South Africa and Spain. These consolation affairs are often forgettable -- one side doesn't want to be there, tickets are unused, the level of intensity is low, the outcome has little meaning. But on this day, while the Spanish players seemed stuck in the depression of the semifinal loss to the Americans and eager to begin their badly needed summer break, Bafana Bafana played with determination and pride in taking the lead. Back struck the Spaniards on two goals about a minute apart by reserve Dani Guiza, but on the final touch of regulation, Katlego Mphela scores his second on a picture-perfect free kick from beyond 30 yards to the top corner. In overtime, Xabi Alonso tucks a free kick inside the far post for Spain's game-winner, resetting its unbeaten streak at one.

In the final, the USA must absorb certain pressure from Brazil but, at the same time, not settle into a defensive posture. The Americans boldly attacked Spain in the early moments, creating opportunities before taking the lead. Will such tactics succeed against Brazil? Can they limit Kaka's and Robinho's touches in dangerous positions and cut off Brazil's flank distribution? How will Michael Bradley's suspension affect the U.S.'s central midfield? Read my front-page preview.

Fun fact: The last time the USA and Brazil played in a FIFA final, it was the 1992 Futsal World Cup in Hong Kong. USA lineup included Jeff Agoos, Mike Windischmann, Fernando Clavijo, Ted Eck and current Washington Freedom coach Jim Gabarra.

Thanks for stopping by. You've reached the ultimate destination for pregame, in-game and postgame discussion. I will provide minute-by-minute updates, and encourage you to contribute to our comments section as the match unfolds. Enjoy!

By Steve Goff  |  June 28, 2009; 12:25 PM ET
Categories:  Brazil , Confederations Cup , U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

Vamos United! (States)

Posted by: redskinsux | June 28, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Goff, totally agree that the USA needs to attack. Because Brasil is built to counter as a team and defend, people assume that attacking plays into their hands. But as a team, they give up too much space and don't pressure the ball well once you gain possession. Dunga may be trying to build a Brasil that defends and counters but so far, he's got a team that does that poorly. When teams like Kuwait and US and Italy have given Brasil space, the Selecao has sliced and diced those teams. Everyone else has relied on high pressure in some form and been willing to go forward. A willingness to do that seems to put Brasil back on their heels.

Addtionally, I'm beginning to wonder if we aren't starting to see an "American Style" of play emerge. I don't mean a set of tactics (that changes from coach to coach and can be taught and adopted, or rejected). But elements that seem cultural. And it seems that American teams do best and play our best when we play "dumb" to a certain extent. By this I mean--we refuse to acknowledge that the other side is so much better than us so we need to play for a draw or seek a 1-0 win. Yeah, defend in depth. Yeah, clog the middle. But I think back to the WC draw against Italy, the recent match against Spain, some other glorious moments for the US. All of them involved the US--even if we did a lot of defending--probably doing more attacking and pressuring than was perhaps tactically wise. Maybe, just maybe, the mentality of the "American Player" (to the extent we can generalize about that) means we play best when we ignore the odds, refuse to play calculating soccer and play like we need to score 2 goals (rather than deny scores and or keep it all level).

Posted by: JoeW1 | June 28, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Joe is right. It's pretty simple to see the theory in practice, even when you break it down in just our nation. Look at the NFL, Pittsburgh is tough, nasty, Dallas is flamboyant, showy, San Fransisco is West Coast, simple, but sophisticated. We're beginning to see this trend emerge in our national soccer team. Clint Dempsey is from the trailer parks of Texas, tough nosed, hard fought, and with a bit of flair. Bradley is New Jersey, doesn't get the respect maybe it deserves. Gooch from the DC area, same story. Sure, there are slight differences, but they've begun to mold into one, tough, b.a. group that's gonna fight, scrap and claw every bit of the way. ESPN's front page story this morning referred to them as "terriers".

I'll take it.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Say it with me Joe Doc.

Yes We Can!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll say it!

YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I BELIEVE!

Posted by: StewartDC8 | June 28, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

From the AP article: “This is a big opportunity for us, and one we don’t get very often,” Donovan said. “There’s no promise that we’ll ever get back to a final like this, so we’ve got to try to take advantage of it. IF WE LOSE WE LOSE, but we’re going to give everything we have.”


It pains me that we have no one to take this guy's spot. To say this suggests he's already rationalizing a loss. I can't imagine any REAL champion even thinking that before a big game. C'mon! Praise the other team, say it will be a tough match, but saying "if we lose, we lose"??? You make me sick Landy.

Posted by: TheOtherRK | June 28, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

TheOtherRK makes me sick.

Posted by: bobbyoshea | June 28, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Bobbyoshea, +1

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I make you sick, BobbyO. Go ahead and defend the statement. I'm willing to listen, I just don't see how he can say that going into the match.

Posted by: TheOtherRK | June 28, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

He's giving a press conference interview. He's said it before every game. Every player has. Ever. It's just lipservice. Think nothing of it.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Come on US!

Posted by: jermWV | June 28, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Are you new to this, TheOtherRK?

and by this I mean soccer, sports, competition, etc.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm willing to listen, I just don't see how he can say that going into the match.

===

For starters, try reading the whole sentence instead of picking out half of it.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Xabi Alonso tucks a free kick inside the far post for Spain's game-winner, resetting its unbeaten streak at one.

By Steve Goff | June 28, 2009; 12:25 PM ET

Actually, wasn't Spain's unbeaten streak reset at one when the ref blew the whistle for full time? IIRC, this game goes in the books as a tie, even though Spain won in added time. Or does that only happen if they are tied at the end of extra time?

And did anyone see the coverage of the pre-match comments with Donovan and Coach Bob being asked questions about Michael Jackson? The world press is still giving the short shrift to US Soccer. After we paste Brazil (2-0, natch) maybe we'll finally get a little respect.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | June 28, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

All I know is that if you go into something rationalizing "if I lose, I lose", you are going to lose. It somehow makes it okay to lose. You think Gretzky, Jordan, Tiger would ever even have that thought enter their mind let alone say it out loud?

I can handle the mindless: I expect a good match; we're happy to be here; we're going to give it everything we've got...but no, I haven't heard other "top" athletes lay that one out there.

Maybe this is the reason the guy was a bust in Europe and rarely has a good match on the international stage. He can tear it up in MLS, but when the competition gets really hard, it's okay to lose. Hating to lose is what separates the world class athletes from the really gifted ones.

Posted by: TheOtherRK | June 28, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

rarely has a good match on the international stage


He's the only player the majority of people have liked in EVERY game of this tournament.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Let's GO USA!

Posted by: the_slammer | June 28, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

We CAN win this thing!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | June 28, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Say it with me fellow anglophones and everyone.

Si se puede!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Teams are on the field for anthems and pre-game rituals!

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Disappointing that I have to listen to JH and JP. Where is Rae? Now I have to mute. JH and JP are not an international stage commentator. They sound like two college dudes talking and for the most part coaching.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | June 28, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Dutch: JA KUNNEN WIJ!
French: OUI NOUS POUVONS !
Italian: SÌ POSSIAMO!
Korean: 그렇습니다 우리는 할 수 있다!
Russian: ДА МЫ МОЖЕМ!
Portuguese: SIM NÓS PODEMOS!
Greek: ΝΑΙ ΜΠΟΡΟΥΜΕ!
English: YES WE CAN!


STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Dutch: JA KUNNEN WIJ!
French: OUI NOUS POUVONS !
Italian: SÌ POSSIAMO!
Korean: 그렇습니다 우리는 할 수 있다!
Russian: ДА МЫ МОЖЕМ!
Portuguese: SIM NÓS PODEMOS!
Greek: ΝΑΙ ΜΠΟΡΟΥΜΕ!
English: YES WE CAN!


STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Good Luck Boys! Go USA

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

We've got a Mexican fourth official. Just how will he be able to screw us?

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | June 28, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

PK-
Have you ever heard of someone looking death in the eye and winking? Doing so implicitly acknowledges the gravity of the situation, and it's consequences of failure, but it's the ultimate in cocky moves. That is exactly what this team needs. They need to know and acknowledge the situation. They are the underdog. They are the less skilled team. They need to play without hesitation, or fear of the situation, or of the consequences. That's what he means by giving it his all.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

USA!!!
WOW

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO!!

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

UNFREAKING REAL!!!

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kev29 | June 28, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay - on the replay it looks like Dempsey missed the ball and it bounced off his thigh - not complaining mind you - I will take it anyway we can get it

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Clint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

YES YES YES!!! OMG YES!!!

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Woah.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

WOW

dos a cero

LD!!

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jpt1002 | June 28, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

GGGOOOOOAAAALLLLL! Davies to Donovan, great finish!

Posted by: jclinger | June 28, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The numbers on those trucks are 8 and 10.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

USA USA USA!!! Brasil il a mort!!

Posted by: ehardwick | June 28, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe this...I just need Altidore and Davies to score and my day will end perfectly!!!

Attack Attack Attack

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Altidore spending a lot of time on the ground...

Posted by: jclinger | June 28, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

SAVE KASEY KEL- I MEAN, TIMMY HOWARD!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Tim Howard is my hero!!!!!

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Jozy strong like bull.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Don't get complacent.

Posted by: LukasWP | June 28, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Excellent first half!!

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow

2-0 at half

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Tim Howard is playing like he does on my XBox.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Unreal

Posted by: Kev29 | June 28, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"Dois a Zero" - Now in Portuguese.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | June 28, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Jim Rome can eat an engorged phallus.

Posted by: alecw81 | June 28, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Jim Rome can eat an engorged phallus.

Posted by: alecw81

No Idea what that blow hard said but this was funny!

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The Davies/Donovan goal was the prettiest thing I've seen in quite a while.

Posted by: wichne | June 28, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

They just flashed the US score at Camden Yards - and it got a huge cheer from the fans at the Nats-Os game. Pretty cool

Posted by: Kev29 | June 28, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Clearly hell has frozen over but what a happy day! Just shows what a great player Donovan is when he plays the whole 90 minutes. And Gooch is a monster!

Posted by: hyds | June 28, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

ok, ok...everyone take a deep breath and regroup. i am so nervous right now. mentally, i know BRA will eventually score, but when? no matter what happens, i am happy - they came out to play and are impressing.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 28, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

HOOOLY SH!T!!!!! wooowzers this seems too good to be true lol, needless to say this next half is gonna be an instant classic one way or another, im just hopin it'll be for us!! Simply incredbile....

Posted by: DjB55 | June 28, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow is right. Incredible. When they have possession, though, I wish U.S. would try to hold it longer by switching point of attack or just making some square passes. It seems like every second touch is a long ball. Brazil's second half onslaught will be intense.

Posted by: hudson22 | June 28, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Where's Dadryan when I need him!!!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow is right. Incredible. When they have possession, though, I wish U.S. would try to hold it longer by switching point of attack or just making some square passes. It seems like every second touch is a long ball. Brazil's second half onslaught will be intense.

Posted by: hudson22 | June 28, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

WOO!! 2-0 Halftime. I predict 2-2. USA wins on PK's.

Posted by: redskinsux | June 28, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Ish.

That was quick.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

wow that was a quick goal for Brazil...

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

No way

Posted by: PC__ | June 28, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

seems like we are a little slow in this half.. not liking it.

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Brazil not so pleased when other teams borrow their diving tactics...

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

SLOPPY FREAKING PLAY US - COME ON!!

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Goooooooooo Brazil!!!!! Wake up!!!!

Posted by: MarcosBrasilia | June 28, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

That was close... great save by Howard on that Header

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

That seemed like a goal.

Posted by: LukasWP | June 28, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank Goodness there is no Instant Replay in FIFA - wow

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

That was goal. Not that I'm complaining.

Brazil's got momentum. I'm scared.

Posted by: Tank2 | June 28, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

wow, that looked like a goal for Brazil...

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Can someone nominate Howard for a Congressional Medal of Honor...or at the very least Man of the Match...

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Bradly going to make any subs? We look a little gassed out there. Thankfully, so does Brazil.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Somebody woke Brazil up and FINALLY some good counters by Donovan and Dempsey

First subs by Brazil

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Go on Brazil!!! YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MarcosBrasilia | June 28, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Now would be a good time for some fresh legs.

Posted by: jclinger | June 28, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

OMG what a SAVE

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

we need some possession!

Posted by: dcjy | June 28, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Gotta get Altidore out of there!

Posted by: combedge | June 28, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh. Kjlestan is up.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

has anyone ever explained to Davies what the word "pass" means in soocer? thats twice the selfish punk has wasteda scoring opportunity

Posted by: Section107 | June 28, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

damn

Posted by: dcjy | June 28, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Ish.

Now what?

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

wow.. it was just a matter of time

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Goooooooooooooooooooooaall!!!!!1

Posted by: MarcosBrasilia | June 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

OH NOOOOOOO!!!! How could they do this to me?

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

AMERICANS! YES WE CAN!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I still believe.

In all those languages I used before.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Go Brazil, Go!!! This is one of few chances we have to beat them!!! Go!!!!

Posted by: MarcosBrasilia | June 28, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

CRAP...

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

guess it was a matter of time. hope we can find a way to come back.

Posted by: dcjy | June 28, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Ish.

It ain't over, but wow.

Two halves.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I still stand by what I said a few weeks ago, Bradley must go. Sub management? Borenstein when Torres is on the bench? Klesjtian? Its almost like putting DMB in. Now Casey?

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 28, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I told my wife when she went out to run errands at the half:

"We'll still lose 2-3"

Of all the times to actually be right about something...

Posted by: rss317 | June 28, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

OH CRAP...but Howard still deserves Man of the Match (first half) LOL

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

3 min of stoppage time.. we got do something NOW

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Kljestan has to go. He cannot make a pass of more than 5 yds without giving it away.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

klejstan looks lost out there.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Now what?

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Brazil.

No shame for the US players. Three straight matches with fire in their bellies.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Ugh the Brazilians know how to keep possession and waste time. A great effort USA. Learn from this loss - very good match. Have a great rest of the week everyone

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

oh well. solid showing though. we just couldn't match their energy in 2nd half.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

3-2 Brasil Wins.

Posted by: redskinsux | June 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I am gutted, absolutely gutted.

Posted by: dgray62876 | June 28, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Damn!!I really wanted to see an American Victory!!! We in Brazil always thougth that they are so weird, playing sports that nobody else in the world plays like Baseball, Rugby. We always hoped that Americans could turn to football and, maybe one day, become a world power in this sport too. See the US selection win us would be a great victory to Brazil!

Posted by: MarcosBrasilia | June 28, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Damn. Good showing by USMNT. Better showing by Brazil.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Amazing that we didn't have a man on each post for that last corner.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

To be completely honest. Bradley didn't have a great game tonight. You are up 2-1 and getting run over...Brazil makes two subs...You need to immediately counter with two more subs...your players have chased the entire second half and are showing extreme fatigue. Its simple youth soccer coaching stuff. SIMPLE.

Posted by: dpowellutkedu | June 28, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm hurt, I'm saddened a bit, but, okay. I mean, they are much better than us, we lost it as much as they won it, but, hey, maybe we can find a moral victory out of this, Donovan can get inspired a bit more, Jozy can get to a team where he can get minutes and not be dead after 60 minutes, so on and so forth. We saw who we can, and maybe should be. We played without the 21 year old who may soon be, if isn't already, our best player.

I will take what I saw from this team over the last week, and hope to make sure it continues for the gold cup, and into El Estadio Azteca.

Stars and Stripes Forever!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, please, please, please fire Bob Bradley. I can't express this enough. He pulled Benny Feilhaber for Jonathan Bornstein to play in the midfield. More cannot be said about this. He has no idea how to adjust. It's awful.

And I'm not one for kneejerk reactions. But Jesus, this is getting ridiculous. Bornstein. Kljestan. Casey. My goodness. I feel sick.

Posted by: psps23 | June 28, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Klejestan has no reason to be on the field then. NONE. Adu? Torres? Sasha just doesn't have the pace to make a difference out there against world class teams.

Posted by: dpowellutkedu | June 28, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Couple thoughts:

I love MLS, but I don't understand Kljestan, Bornstein, and Casey as your subs when trying to pull this one out.

Davies was great. He needs to stay in the starting 11...partnered with whatever stiff forward Bradley throws in there.

Speaking of which, Altidore gets a 0.0 ranking from me. He was invisible in the first half and loafed around in the second until he was subbed out several minutes too late.

Posted by: combedge | June 28, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

We need guys who can play the full 90 minutes. THAT is what the USA is lacking.

Posted by: Juan-John | June 28, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Oof. That hurt.

No real shame in losing to a team that was just far better than anything our guys could defend. Three halves of desperate defending - guess something had to give.

Let's build on this. Good news is that we've found some good attacking combinations. But we need more quality in the back. Proud effort by all the guys.

Posted by: Kev29 | June 28, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Forget his pace, Kljestan can't control more than one out of four passes--he was the WORST possible guy to have in the midfield late. Please please, Torres!

Posted by: JayW4 | June 28, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

thoughts from a sports fan who doesn't watch soccer: if the best athletes of the U.S. played soccer, as opposed to football, basketball (and other lucrative sports), we might have the depth (and height) to win and not just be the "pesky Americans."
Regarding the vertically challenged issue, I thought I was watching the current 'Skins 1 & 2 receivers - fast, but very short. How many long balls were headed by the Brazilian guy coming over the head of the American guy?
Also, how is it that every time the Brazilians deflect a pass, etc., it goes right to another Brazilian? When the team in white made defensive plays the ball went out of bounds or to the other team.
Oh, and shouldn't the score have been 4-2?

Posted by: scheermadness | June 28, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

We need guys who can play the full 90 minutes. THAT is what the USA is lacking.

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QFT.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Scheermadness, your a putz, we had the bigger team on the field.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 28, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Wait... did they say Lucio got the Fair Play trophy?

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Proud of the team, but not the coach. Subs came on too late. We've all seen Adu change a game when a goal was needed, try him out!
We did lose to a much better team, no shame in that

Posted by: knape1 | June 28, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Timmy gets Golden Glove

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Tim Howard got the Tourney Keeper Award! Good for him - he earned it!

Posted by: Stevida | June 28, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Kljestan should be kept out like Beasley. He is not up to this level. Bad sub

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | June 28, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Deuce gets Bronze Ball

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Kaka got Golden Ball?

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Our players are absolutely devestated. Hope they can hold their heads up higher after getting some rest tonight

Posted by: Kev29 | June 28, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Why are we waring jackets and cover up the shirts and names? Aghhhhhh

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | June 28, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Soccer is so lame. Half of the game is played out of bounds. When a player has the ball and opponents are near, he/she kicks the ball out of bounds. Duh. The game is delayed.
Scoring in soccer is a mess. Play for such a long time and the final score is 3-2. Snooze. If a goal counted say six points and an opponent out of bounds counted one point, more of the game would be played in bounds. Just because the rules and scoring have been the way it is doesn't mean that it is the best possible. After all, the game is no longer played by the winning army kicking around the head of an enemy. The game was improved by cutting the bladder out of an enemy man, blown up and tied off. Now, they use a manufactured ball. Things have changed, so, take a look at the scoring and the silly out of bounds rules.

Posted by: jhurley1 | June 28, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Cause it's cold there.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I still think Bradley needs to go but he won't. We beat a depleted Egypt and were given a gift by Brazil. We then scored two goals and played well against Spain but the goals, both excellent finishes came from fortunate bounces.

Against Brazil, it started off well but the subs? Benny is not fit, but how can you put in Borenstein and not Torres? How can Kljestian even be considered? Casey probably came on because there was no one else.

Bottom line: the US had luck on their side, Bradley screwed up his game management, and he will be the coach next year too.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 28, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Well, for a country that has no tradition on Soccer the US team have done it so well!! Remember that you beatten Italy and Spain! Of course there is still a hard work to do, but americans are in the right way! Beautiful game! US had come a long way since Pele played in New York Cosmos! Sooner the world cup will be a reality!

Posted by: MarcosBrasilia | June 28, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I like the disappointment from the team.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to the U.S. team on a great run in this tournament. Bradley was missed in the midfield, especially in the second half when depth was needed. If they could just learn to hold the ball a little better, they can compete better with the Spains and Brazils of the world. That's why it's important to give more playing time to players like Torres and Adu.

Posted by: hudson22 | June 28, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Well said.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 28, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Jerseys turned around so that the players' names show, not the badge.

Are they all in the transfer market?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

ok, i threw up and now feel better. i am very proud of this team. i will never forget what they did in this tournament. things are progressing. compare this team to the teams in 1990 and 1994. doesn't even seem like the same sport. in the end, the lack of depth hurt. the bradley red really hurt us depthwise in the end.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 28, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Bradley suspension was crucial--imagine Feilhaber coming in as sub instead of Sacha, esp at 2-2. That composure would have been critical. Oh well.

Gold Cup, here we come!

Posted by: JayW4 | June 28, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the same thing, I-270Exit1.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, shove the fire Bradley stuff up your ass today. Sure, the subs weren't effective. But they were made after Brazil had thoroughly taken over the match. He went with the guys that got us here. And they broke down against Brazil. It happens. You really think Freddy Adu is going to change this match? Or Mr. I've Never Made a Tackle in my Life Torres?

Posted by: Kev29 | June 28, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Not quite enough in the second half today, the early goal was a killer but we have nothing to be ashamed of. Brazil is class and our lack of depth hurt us. Hopefully this gives us confidence going into Azteca, maybe someone will surprise us in the Gold Cup and get a chance with the senior team. We scored two great goals and we made it to a final.

Posted by: sbg1 | June 28, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Solid match for the most part against a team of overwhelming talent. You can't absorb this kind of pressure without buckling. Got lucky on the "phantom" goal that wasn't allowed for Brasil. Michael Bradley was missed but don't know how much. Neither Clark or Feilhaber could generate anything offensively with too many weak passes that didn't connect up front. Donovan, Dempsey,Howard and the entire back line had great tournaments. Still need help up front as Altidore looks like he can't play for more than 60 minutes.

Posted by: agoldhammer | June 28, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes it pobably should have been a 4-2 loss, but somehow I really get the feeling that FIFA wanted the USA to win...

Posted by: Juan-John | June 28, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Sure we played hard, but the USMNT got lucky, why can't we be honest about that? We took three red cards in five games, not acceptable!

Bradley isn't' gong to get fired, he just deserves to be. Even if Torres can't tackle and Adu is all hype why were they even brought to this tournament? Torres could be playing with his club, getting minutes. Why bring DMB?

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 28, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Tough loss. But what'd we learn?

Altidore-Davies could be a really good starting paring. But first, Jozy needs some playing time on the club level.

In the midfield, Donovan's still got it. Bradley is a monster. And Rico Clark is a surprisingly good option in the middle. Let's see what Edu or Jones can bring to that spot.

Up until the 70th minute of the Egypt game, Dempsey was a weak spot. But he was fantastic on all three of his goals since. Nice to see that he can work up top as well.

Feilhaber also brought a lot to the table. After his '07 season at Derby, I was worried, but he looked very poised on the ball in this tournament.

The backline was tremendous. Spector brought two strong crosses and some speed. DeMerit was tremendous. No doubts about Bocanegra either.

And Gooch was the man. Fantastic to see him pull it all together in this tournament.

Shame we didn't see Torres or Adu, but I'm excited to see Freddy take over at midfield in the Gold Cup. And Kenny Cooper, of course.

All in all: a very positive tournament. Time to get excited for 2010.

Posted by: danoshinsky | June 28, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Jeffreymsoltz, I appreciate your frustration. My thought was that the US forwards were always loosing headers. Maybe the US team is taller overall. Maybe I forgot to mention that I don't watch soccer much - if my naivete makes me a "putz," as you say, then I guess I'll chalk that up to another factor that makes soccer less accessible than other sports. Just know that I was probably cheering as loud, if not louder, than you with every goal scored or saved by the US.

Posted by: scheermadness | June 28, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

amen kev29. let me repeat what he said: "shove the fire Bradley stuff up your ass". i was thinking the same thing. give it a rest for just once. arghhh....

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 28, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"Sure, the subs weren't effective. But they were made after Brazil had thoroughly taken over the match."

Gee, that makes me feel better. Note to Bob Bradley: it's okay to be incompetent, so long as the incompetence comes when nobody expected us to win to begin with.

Posted by: psps23 | June 28, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

The subs were late and the players were questionable. That didn't decide the match though. I'm not a Bradley fan and I want him out, but it's too late. The US isn't going to rebuild this late in the game. Hopefully Bradley will continue to learn and make better decisions as the US qualifies for the World Cup, but I think he knows his term is up after the World Cup if what we are beginning to see doesn't continue. The Gold Cup roster and how they play under his coaching could be a deciding factor in the length of his tenure.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

hurley, why post here? i suppose you think baseball is thrilling to watch.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | June 28, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I feel like I need to take a few days off, but I'm gonna flip on mlsnet and watch those games.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Bradley is here to stay, so we will have to accept poor game management and possibly, in the future, questionable player selections.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | June 28, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to our boys. It is a great achievement to win a silver medal in a major FIFA tournament. It's in the history book no matter what.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | June 28, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Jerseys turned around so that the players' names show, not the badge.

Are they all in the transfer market?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 28, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Nah, just the recognition thing (sheesh, it's like you've never been 2nd in a men's tournament or something)

Hopefully Clint uses the tears as something more than a photo op.

Posted by: Section117 | June 28, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

My thought was that the US forwards were always loosing headers.

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You say you've never watched the game much, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. In general, forwards are smaller than center and fullbacks, but also quicker. There are exceptions, like Brian McBride, but that's usually the way it is.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Tough result. Glad to see the tears from Clint Dempsey. That means we feel it and aren't just happy to be here.

Ultimately, losing a final is more painful than rounding out in group play.

In regards to the game, Charlie Davies almost had the third and likely winning goal, but was stopped by a great tackle by a great player.

Posted by: delantero | June 28, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

First, I-270Exit1 was joking, Section117. Second, those tears were genuine. (gee wiz, it's like you've never been 2nd in a men's tournament or something)

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

That was a great recovery and tackle, delantero. There was nothing Davies could have done there. He didn't have a heavy touch or anything. It was just a great defensive play.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey, scheermadness, sorry if we got of on the wrong foot, but, feel free to stick around, learn some things, maybe go to a game. We'll be here, I know I just dropped in about a year ago and feel pretty accepted, so, please, stick around.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Makes one wonder what ESPN's ratings were for this game....

Posted by: Juan-John | June 28, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Makes one wonder what ESPN's ratings were for this game....

Posted by: Juan-John | June 28, 2009 5:12 PM


Four days of pimping the heck out of it, an early USA goal, a strong performance, up against nothing but baseball and movies, I'd imagine fairly strong.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 28, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I actually felt today like I do after my favorite American mainstream sports teams lose a tough game. Maybe that's progress? I'm proud of the way we played. The team can't be held responsible for Bradley's poor substitutions. Hopefully Sepp Blatter was telling Bradley he should never let Kljestan, Casey and Beasley play for the U.S. again. Though overall this is encouraging. Our starting XI played nose to nose with the Brazilian XI. Just wish we had some more depth.

Posted by: Lucius2 | June 28, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I had the comment box filled out and was going to hit submit, but I decided to open up another window and refresh. Damn you Juan-John for stealing my comment.

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

""Beautiful game! US had come a long way since Pele played in New York Cosmos! Sooner the world cup will be a reality! Posted by: MarcosBrasilia ""

Yes, it was, Saludos to the Brasileiro's!

I wish I had a caipirinha to toast to you and your team that doesn't quit.

Cheers! We'll see you in the re-match next year!

Posted by: delantero | June 28, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

That's BS about Bradley. Just because he gets two nice wins against Spain and Egypt DOES NOT mean his entire body of work is somehow immune to criticism.

His subs were suspect, his defensive adjustments were ineffective and obviously had a significant impact on the negative result tonight.

Great performance by the players but if you can tell me if there was any tactical adjustment from the end of the first half to the beginning of the second then you are mistaken.

He was reactionary and just like our players performances and our results from the first two games of the tournament, when we are not the aggressors tactically then we get beaten.

Posted by: dpowellutkedu | June 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Watching the Brazilian celebration at the end of the match - does anyone still think that they considered this a glorified series of friendlies?

Oh, well. At least we still flew the first airplane.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

We played amazing in this game, guys. But the truth is that champions beat you in a number of ways, and if you shut down certain aspects (one v one dribbling, shots from outside) they will beat you in another way. (Freakish turns, headers). They stretched us, they broke us down.

We beat Spain and Egypt with counter attacks, and we nearly one against the two best teams in the world on good defense...

But Brazil beat us with possession in the end. We hustled, but we ended up just running after the ball. That's why we were tired, and couldn't hold on. For it.

In order to play with teams like this, we need to find a way to integrate players like Torres and Adu, who can help you pass and create/keep possession. At some point, it's not about how many tackles are made. It's about beating your opponent in many ways.

But, I definetly think this should be our Anthemn for the next World Cup:

WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
Wicked Sister. If you disagree, read the lyrics. We might not win our fight against "the powers that be," but we're not gonna take it either.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 28, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

That's BS about Bradley. Just because he gets two nice wins against Spain and Egypt DOES NOT mean his entire body of work is somehow immune to criticism.

Posted by: dpowellutkedu

you may or may not be right. however, while bradley is not immune to criticism, HE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. the "fire bob bradley" group can gripe all they want, but ultimately it's like complaining about the weather. it's not going to change no matter how much you b@tch. so, just for today, be proud of him and his team, then start complaining tomorrow.

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 28, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why Bradley uses Connor Casey. This tournament has really made clear that there are players in the US national pool who are completely inadequate. If the US wants to compete outside of the CONCACAF, certain players (DMB and Casey immediately come to mind)need to be replaced. Just because a player has made an earlier squad, it doesn't mean he has an automatic invitation to following tournaments. I think that Brazil is a great example of a team who only brings players who are currently in top form (i.e Luis Fabiano instead of Ronaldinho).
And from the little I saw of Torres versus Costa Rica, he seemed to be one of the only bright spots. I would like to trust Bradley's judgment as he might see things in practice, but in my mind the US' biggest weakness is possession and control of the ball. Therefore putting in Sasha and Bornstein instead of Adu and Torres makes little sense.

My two cents

Posted by: Manu90 | June 28, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

The FBB faction reminds me of taxicab horns in New York. Loud. Omnipresent. Sometimes justified. Mostly tuned out.


They're the cosmic background radiation of the US Soccer universe.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

@Manu90 -- I guess you do not follow MLS. Casey was chosen as the replacement for Ching, precisely because of his current form, He was in the top echelon of MLS in goal-scoring. Maybe, now you wish to retract your comment about choosing players who are in good form.

Posted by: fischy | June 28, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Am I in the "sometimes justified" category, mason08?

Posted by: sitruc | June 28, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

fischy-

I was referring to Bradley's use of Beasley, whose play has fallen off tremendously from his past form- yet was a starter against Costa Rica and in the beginning of the Confederations Cup. It was somewhat of a moot point because Beasley hasn't played in the past three games so I guess Bob's got it. But then he goes and plays Casey, who is an abomination.

And yes I will concede that Casey has had a solid season for the Rapids, but it has simply not translated to the national level. He has been ineffective as a substitute. Maybe the pace of the game is too much or he doesn't understand what is being asked from him.

Posted by: Manu90 | June 28, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Dadryan's Officially the gayest comment I missed during my camping trip:

The FBB faction reminds me of taxicab horns in New York. Loud. Omnipresent. Sometimes justified. Mostly tuned out.


They're the cosmic background radiation of the US Soccer universe.

Posted by: mason08 | June 28, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Dude, My Cosmic U-Lock just smashed off your hella weak side mirror analogy!

Posted by: DadRyan | June 28, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

DR-
Wha?

Posted by: mason08 | June 29, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

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