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USA Shocks Spain

The United States men's national soccer team pulled off one of the biggest upsets in its 93-year history today, stunning European champion Spain, 2-0, in the semifinals of the FIFA Confederations Cup in South Africa.

The triumph rivaled victories over England in the 1950 World Cup, Colombia in the 1994 World Cup, Argentina in the '95 Copa America, Brazil in the '98 Gold Cup and Portugal in the 2002 World Cup.

Three days ago, the United States was on the brink of exiting the tournament after two poor performances and facing a nearly impossible formula to reach the semifinals. Today, after the historic victory in 36-degree Bloemfontein, the Americans are heading to Johannesburg for Sunday's championship game of an eight-nation tournament that is serving as a rehearsal for next year's World Cup in South Africa.

Jozy Altidore, a 19-year-old forward who plays professionally in Spain, scored midway through the first half, and after absorbing relentless pressure, the Americans expanded their lead in the 74th minute on veteran midfielder Clint Dempsey's goal, ending Spain's world-record winning streak at 15 and stopping its 2 1/2-year unbeaten run at 35.

In the final, the United States will play the winner of Thursday's Brazil-South Africa match.

The Americans lost their first two games in the group stage -- to world powers Italy and Brazil -- by a combined score of 6-1. In their finale, they needed to defeat African champion Egypt by at least three goals and hope Brazil won by at three against the defensive-renowned Italians. Both events occurred, sending the United States into the semifinals because they had scored more goals in the first round.

Today, against a team that had breezed through their first three matches without conceding a goal, the Americans went ahead in the 27th minute on Altidore's 18-yard shot. Spain, ranked No. 1 in the world by FIFA, the sport's international governing body, dominated possession throughout the evening but was repeatedly thwarted by goalkeeper Tim Howard and a stout U.S. backline that included District native and Sherwood High graduate Oguchi Onyewu.

In the second half, Dempsey took advantage of a deflection and sloppy defending with a sliding six-yard shot to double the lead. The Americans played the final five minutes shorthanded after Michael Bradley, son of U.S. Coach Bob Bradley, was ejected for a hard challenge. He must serve a one-game suspension and will miss the title game.

PLAYER RATINGS
Howard 8; Spector 8, Onyewu 9, DeMerit 8, Bocanegra 8; Dempsey 8, Clark 6, Bradley 5, Donovan 8; Davies 7, Altidore 9. Subs: Feilhaber 7, Casey 5, Bornstein 5.

Click here for the Insider's minute-by-minute accounts of the match.

By Steve Goff  |  June 24, 2009; 4:31 PM ET
Categories:  Confederations Cup , Spain , U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

viva u.s. soccer!

Posted by: unewsulose | June 24, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely fantastic win. The red was nonsense. Hopefully they appeal it pre final.

Posted by: the_slammer | June 24, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Player ratings reach giddy new heights! :-D

Posted by: Kev29 | June 24, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Vamos United (States)!

Posted by: BelovedCartoonMouse | June 24, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm walking on sunshine, woooah and don't it feel good!!

Long time coming--well done Men!!

Posted by: lovinliberty | June 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Bradley (Senior): 9

Posted by: OWNTF | June 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Holy Cow!

Posted by: Wallenstein | June 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Great game! It was all heart out there. I dare say we almost looked good at times.

I wouldn't rank Altidore up with Gooch, though. IMO, Gooch was the player of the game. While Altidore did great with the goal (and finally shot the d@mn ball!), he still allowed himself to get pushed around more often than he should. He was also gassed a bit earlier than he should have been. Great performance, but not up with Gooch, who stopped, by my count, at least a dozen solid Spanish plays.

USA! USA!

Posted by: figgy_va | June 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Gooch was a soccer bot, a full on defensive android. The whole back line + the d-mids looked fantastic. The fact that they had to because we couldn't hold the ball is beside the point for now. How many guys laid out to stop a potential goal? I'm going to go with "they all did."

Small constructive criticisms later, right now feeling like it's 2002 again and glad to see a truly amazing and scrappy win. This can't hurt the transfer window one bit, either.

Posted by: eadc | June 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm down with a 9 for Donovan. I thought there were 3 guys playing in Donovan shirts. 1 Up front, 1 in mf, 1 defending.

Demerit and Gooch played out of their minds.

Unreal.

Posted by: JkR- | June 24, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

If Jozy texts Capdevila again, he should tell him the time, because Jozy cleaned his clock.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 24, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Smoley Hokes. Who woulda thunk it? :-)

Posted by: Juan-John | June 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

This is unbelievable achievement!!! Congratulation!!!

To the rest of the world this would be so much bigger than any other sporting achievement for America other than top medal position in Olympics.

Posted by: SeedofChange | June 24, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

...and I have to hand it to Bob Bradley. The team was well prepared and strongly motivated.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 24, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

HOWARD 8 - are you smiking crack?
9.5 minimum

Posted by: Shanoni | June 24, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Why is Altidore a 9? He didn't have that good of a game.

Posted by: GoUnited | June 24, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

DeMerit deserves more than a rating of 8 and definitely above Watford maybe the premier or primera liga. It'd be great if Arsenal take him. Altidore needs to start more club games!!
Wow, the US were awesome especially defensively. Congrats.
Sergio Ramos is over rated.

Posted by: arunsash | June 24, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

From Previous Thread:

My ratings:
Howard 8.5 - Didn't make any "HOLY COW!" saves, but he got tested a lot, was very strong on crosses and was all around VERY solid.
Spector 7.5 - Poor crosses, but played very well overall defensively.
DeMerit 9.5 - The guy was unbelievable today. MOTM for me. Why is not playing top-flight football?
Onyewu 9 - He was a monster again today, and he's probably gonna be rewarded with a fat contract this summer.
Bocanegra 7 - Played pretty well considering he was out injured for a bit, but you could tell that he wasn't 100%
Clark 8.5 - Was great all night long. Very clean, strong tackles. Made a couple bad balls in the offensive third, but still had a great game.
Bradley 5 - This was by far his worst game of the tournament. Besides getting red carded (which was definitely not merited), he was invisible for much of the game and he rarely got forward.
Dempsey 7.5 - By far his best game of the tournament. Unlike previous games where he looked disinterested for most of the game, he left everything on the field today, and as a result was completely gassed at the end.
Donovan 9 - Was brilliant again today. The guy was everywhere on the field and seemed to inspire the team. I just wish he wouldn't do those unclassy dives.
Davies 8 - He brought great energy to the game and seems to be a good partner to complement Altidore.
Altidore 6.5 - Other than the goal, he didn't do much. He clearly still has a lot to learn, and needs to improve on holding the ball. His lack of playing time in Europe is evident; he looked dead in the later stages of the second half.

Subs:
Feilhaber 8 - This guy brings things to the table that no other American has. He is so calm on the ball and his vision and passing are superb. His quality showed on the field today.
Casey 4 - This guy should not play for the national team again unless he can show that he wants to be there. He played lazily and was jogging on the field.
Bornstein NR - Didn't see enough of him to give him a rating really.

Posted by: GoUnited | June 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: GoUnited | June 24, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable.

I loved that backline, i think thats our strongest possible defensive line up.

Clark and Bradley looked good but I cant wait to see what Bradley looks like with Jermaine Jones.

Finally I think Dempsey is one of our best players and he is at his best when he is playing forward. Coach Bradley should permanently move him up there and give to Torres a shot on the wing.

With Howard in goal we may actually make it out of the group stage in 2010.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | June 24, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

As SkySports wrote: "A famous win."

The shame is that it will be more famous in the rest of the world than here. Still, it's wonderful for the USA fans.

Maybe I'm still in the glow here, but I think some of the ratings are actually harsh. Howard only gets an 8? What's he gotta do to get a 9? He didn't have a single misstep. Contrast that with Altidore, who does get a 9 from Goff, despite countless, needless giveaways. And Bornstein gets a 5? Sure, he was only in a few minutes, but he made the only play he was asked to make. A 5 suggests a lesser performance, not a short one. One other quibble -- Clark gave away some balls, and forced some shots, but he was so clutch on defense that he deserves more than a 6.

I'm inclined to give almost the whole team 8s and 9s.

Posted by: fischy | June 24, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Great win for the USA and happy that it was for the most part without controversy. Unfrotunate that Bradley will have to miss the opportunity to play in the final but he should knwo by now that you can't slide in with two feet even if you get a piece of the ball. Just gives the Ref the chance to pull out the red. Didn't likethe antics some of the US players used to draw fouls. But overall a nice win and good starting 11.

Posted by: SoccerGuru | June 24, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Have to repeat the sentiments - Demerit, Gooch, LD are my MOTM. Boca looked great at LB. Conor Casey needs to learn how to run. HIs show at the end was embarrassing. We need another Cobi Jones who just comes in at the 82nd minute and kills off the Mexicans...I mean games. Amazing hear guys - we are all eating crow now.

Posted by: ddd001 | June 24, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The PAIN in Spain stays mainly on the plane!!!!! Bye Bye Now!

I have to say, this was Herculaen. This was what poets are trying to describe. I ran around in my yard with what was left of my voice.

Donovan didn't look like he should be playing for a Bundesliga team, he looked like he should be captain of a Bundesliga team. As for Altidore, he certainly proved he should be playing, and Villareal have to notice.

DAMN. Now, here's the negative part of this. Nobody is going to take us lightly anymore. To combat this, I hope and pray that European clubs are paying rapt attention to what our players did this game. Transfers, now, while we have a year to improve and grow. Otherwise, this might end up hurting us in the long run.

With Bradley sitting, we will see Klejstan again, inexplicably, after his last failure. As we have no more D mids on our bench, I think this might be Torres's chance, as a sub probably. I see no hope for Freddy.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 24, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't go that far SeedofChange. It was a good game and we won but just over a decade ago we beat the top ranked team in the world, Brazil, and it got us nowhere. It's really great to beat these top teams, the problem is we need to do it more often than once every 5 years (Portugal was our last big scalp). You can always write off a one time upset because stuff happens in one game. If we had to play a series of 5 games against Spain would we win all 5 or even more than 1? That is the question that needs to be answered. to really be seen as a top country for soccer/football we need to be beating teams like Spain a lot more often. If we go out and get shellacked in the championship game, this win will be all for naught.

Posted by: owendylan | June 24, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I think a five for bradley is ludicrous. His tackle was what started the second goal, he worked diligently across the midfield. His red card was just a terrible call and in no way shape or form should be weighed into the ratings.

DeMerit played the game of his life. While Gooch's blocks and headers were more noticeable some of DeMerits defensive plays were amazing. Gooch still deserves his rating. DeMerit has always been a premiership player, he just faces the American biases that we all no exists.

Amazing preformance. While Clark was completely outclassed technically his work rate was rediculous.

Seriously, someone find out if we can appeal red cards. I cant be the only one who thinks it was a huge joke.

Posted by: grubbsbl | June 24, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Goff:

Your player ratings are usually spot on (or close to it) but I think you missed the mark with Clark today. He covered a ton of space, disrupted the Spanish attack time and again and provided a nice spark moving forward. If anything, he still has a little to learn about patience but he has proven over the last couple of months (and especially today) he is ready for the international stage.

I'd score Clark at least a 7 today.

Posted by: humeboy | June 24, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

This is great news, go U.S.A!

Posted by: affirmativeactionpresident | June 24, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

One last thought -- We've been waiting to see the breakout of Landon Donovan. I think we've seen it, and it's come without him scoring from the run of play. Throughout the tournament, he's been the guy that put the other teams' defenders back on their heels, and he's made numerous defensive plays in the USA defensive box to shut down opposing attacking players.

I think the big plays on offense are about to come, too -- as his confidence builds and he gains top-level experience. I think he could make the leap to Europe...for one lucky team.

Posted by: fischy | June 24, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Send Goff to South Africa!

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Incredible! A nice turn around after thrashings by the Ticos, Azurri, and the Auriverdes (had to look up the last one).

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 24, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Feilhaber should start in place of Bradley, there is no reason why Klijsten needs to get on the field. Dont forget about Torres and Adu, hopefully anyone of them will start instead of klijsten.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | June 24, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

As SkySports wrote: "A famous win."

The shame is that it will be more famous in the rest of the world than here. Still, it's wonderful for the USA fans.

Posted by: fischy | June 24, 2009 4:55 PM

Agreed. But I think this will get some nice play on a relatively quiet sports day. And it's an ESPN event. They'll be licking their lips at the thought of a great Sunday rating v Brazil (most likely)!

And hey, it's already on the front of ESPN.com. "Jozy And The Giant Killers" - very cool.

Posted by: Kev29 | June 24, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

If Goff is going to S.A., who's going to cover the game in Germantown next week?

Posted by: fischy | June 24, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, Team USA. Uhrah.

Posted by: LawyerTom1 | June 24, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

"If Goff is going to S.A., who's going to cover the game in Germantown next week?"

The Freedom won't get their coverage. Unfair isn't it?

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

And hey - based on the results of this unscientific poll...

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls?pCat=46&sCat=537

Our attitudes as a country might be changing about soccer. Well, at least the international game. And who doesn't like an upset?

Posted by: Kev29 | June 24, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Ohh..you're talking D.C. aren't you? I say ChestRockwell, DadRyan, Fischy, and a couple others, along with myself cover the game and write a match report. How about it, Steve?

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I HOPE IT IS A RUMOR GOOCH SIGNED WITH FERNABACHE, BECAUSE AFTER TODAY HE WILL BE A WANTED MAN!

U nbelievable
S occer
A men !!!

Posted by: DCFaninSocal | June 24, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Missed the game for work...has there been any word on a re-broadcast yet?

Posted by: j01usna | June 24, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

actually, i have never even been to espn.com top-level, i only go to the soccernet part, but i just did and they had a poll up which i thought was extremely interesting:
Q: "how much do you care about the usa beating spain in confederations cup?"
A1: "a lot" 81%
A2: "a little" 13%
A3: "not at all" 6%
total votes: 39K+

wow! could this possibly be a watershed moment for usa soccer???

my ratings (i guess it is impossible to give 10s?!):
starters:
---------
howard - 8.5
spector - 8
demerit - 9
onyewu - 9 (MOTM)
clark - 7
bradley - 6.5
dempsey - 7
donovan - 8.5
altidore - 7
davies - 7.5

subs:
-----
fielhaber - 7
casey - 4
bornstein - NR

coach:
------
bob bradley - 8

Posted by: dfunkt | June 24, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

WELL DONE BOYS! Great coaching by BB; sat on the Spanish cut to the end line and pass the diagonal ball to the six play with an extra defender in the passing lane. They loved defending too. Possession was 44/56 in Spain's favor. They played up to their God given abilities and hustled. Well done, keep it up!

Posted by: Realness1 | June 24, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

j01usna: today's schedule already had a re-broadcast at 11pm on ESPN2.

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | June 24, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

jo1usna, espn2 at 11pm

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 24, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I am in complete an utter shock right now. I still can't believe it. Heck I still can't believe the great escape we did on Sunday.

Everyone on this team gets high marks today. Even Coach Bradley who I amoung others was raking over the fire on the internets. There will still be some who will never give him his due, but he brought the lads out tonight and he managed that game well.

That D, wehat can I say? Exceptional. To stop all those dangerous tools that Spain had on the field was simply amazing!

This team has well exceeded my expectaions of them. I say go for it against Brazil. We're going to medal anyways so play them hard this time.

USA! USA! USA!!

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 24, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Do you believe in a miracle?!

Posted by: TalkingHead1 | June 24, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

snap, i somehow missed boca in my ratings?! :-/

bocanegra - 7.5

Posted by: dfunkt | June 24, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I believe a "5" indicates an average game, not a bad game.

DeMerit and Onyewu were the best on the field today. I'd give them both a rating of 9.

Posted by: Cerealman | June 24, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Atrocious read card for Bradley - just to show I am not blindly pro-American, I think the two other red cards in this tournament were deserved.

Posted by: GeneWells | June 24, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I liked Gooch's behind the back, shoulder-height, back heel clearance in the first half.

What?

Posted by: Alsatian1 | June 24, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Who was that man with the smile after the game claiming to be Bob Bradley?

Posted by: Rhio | June 24, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I used babelfish to translate from Mexican to Spanish. It's still

dos a cero

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 24, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

This victory is extraordinary. My question is whether the Washington Post will provide appropriate, prominent coverage in tomorrow's newspaper. Earlier games, though US losses, received weak coverage. The shocking and complete victory over Egypt which led to a wholly unexpected semi-final appearance in the Confederations Cup received limited coverage. Today's preview to this historic match was a blurb. I hope that the Washington Post recognizes that the American victory over Spain, ranked #1 in the world by FIFA, in a serious international tournament is a newsworthy event and that we will see suitable coverage in tomorrow morning's newspaper.

Posted by: Alexandrian | June 24, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I hope you see now how exciting and fun soccer can be. Spain was the better team in the 2d half, but the US defended well and do not have to apologize for the win. You are not as good as Spain but neither is my country, but we can still win if we put our minds to it and do our best. Soccer is the most democratic of sports.

Posted by: matstjohansson | June 24, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Soccer has such huge flaws. Guys standing around half the time, dull back and forth ball movement without consequences or shots, the worst camera coverage in sports, ridiculous audio of horns blaring in the crowd like an auto horn stuck on after an accident, and the single worst feature of any sport anywhere - goal tenders with odd unis that make it impossible to tell what team they are on! Why does the goalie where his own separate uniform? Not even a variation of his team's but a totally separate uni! Ridiculous! The goalie is the guy with huge mickey mouse gloves, he does not need a confusing uniform.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"...ending Spain's world-record winning streak at 15 and stop its 2 1/2-year unbeaten run at 35." I don't get it? How could Spain have a streak of 15 games and an unbeaten run of 35 games without winning the overall World Cup?

Posted by: iamasofaking | June 24, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

USA soccer disqualified before Spain match

June 24, 2009
FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

BLOEMFONTEIN, South Africa -- The United States stunned top-ranked Spain 2-0 Wednesday night on goals by Jozy Altidore and Clint Dempsey, advancing to the Confederations Cup final with one of the Americans' biggest soccer victories.

Shortly after the victory, the news of the disqualification slowly made its way around the stunned locker room. The United States played with ineligible players in the first three matches of the Confederations Cup. Bob Bradley [sponsor] [click to continue]

Posted by: sitruc | June 24, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SportzNut21 | June 24, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh wait, I forgot...soccer has those TIE games.

Posted by: iamasofaking | June 24, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Dudes Kornheiser was praising this! Simply amazing!

Posted by: DadRyan | June 24, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SportzNut21 | June 24, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Everything finished for Spain in Bloemfontein, ' spring of flores' in Dutch, source of the greater misfortune than remembers the champion of Europe, impotent at the most unexpected moment, starred in the wall of a perfect American selection in defense, great in its style."

I love babelfish

Posted by: OWNTF | June 24, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I've thought the US MNT has been improving incrementally, year to year, with MFs like Bradley and Dempsey, and perhaps in the not too distant future, Feilhaber and Clark, getting to Landon Donovan's level.

At some point, we were going to beat a world class team in a game that mattered. I felt that it was possible today would be that day, so I took the day off to watch. I am SOOOOOO glad I did!

The difference between today's team and teams of a few years ago, it seems to me, is that we not only defended with intensity, crucial against Spain, but we also had the ability to score. We were more dangerous than in most previous years -- the exception being the 2002 World Cup team with McBride at his peak and Josh Wolff still uninjured and speedy. Altidore is only 19, and unpolished, but even today he is a force to be reckoned with. We do need to find a second dangerous forward; perhaps Davies can develop into that player.

It seems to me this is the most important victory in the US MNT's history. The 1-0 win in 1950 against England was by a makeshift team on a terrible field and was before soccer reached the heights of today. The 3-2 win against Portugal in the 2002 WC was almost as big, but Portugal isn't quite Spain, with its 35 game unbeaten streak, and we got an own goal. The win against Columbia was at home, with a much poorer US team, and needed an own goal. The win against Brazil in the Gold Cup was in a relatively local tourney against a Brazil team trying several younger players out.

Today's win, in contrast, was on the world stage, against a full Spanish squad. There was no own goal, with both our goals well deserved -- Dempsey being so quick to anticipate the defender would trap the ball, and knocking it into goal almost as the ball was being trapped. Altidore held his defender perfectly, and took a hard and accurate shot. As noted, our defense was almost airtight, unbelievable against a team with Spain's strengths.

So I'll just say it -- this is the most important victory in the history of the US WMT -- it was against a top foe, without the home field advantage, without an own goal in our favor, featuring excellent defending and midfield play, with well taken goals. It is this game, and no other, which proclaims that the US, on a given day, can beat almost any team in the world.

That said, we will not be favored against Brazil in the final, and with good reason. But no team can now assume that they will beat the US WMT any more, even if heavily favored.

Posted by: tgrahame1 | June 24, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Man, Donovan has got to go....to Europe. Everyone left it out on the field, but Donovan motored everywhere. Incredible leader. It's been such a pleasure to see him develop. So proud! Crow is tasting mighty good right now. So proud! Took a half day and the bar went nuts, especially during that second goal. Demerit and Gooch were monsters. Demerit has stepped up big time. Davies bike goes in the history books along with Balboa's a long while back. When was that again? Awesome.

Posted by: EssEff | June 24, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"...ending Spain's world-record winning streak at 15 and stop its 2 1/2-year unbeaten run at 35." I don't get it? How could Spain have a streak of 15 games and an unbeaten run of 35 games without winning the overall World Cup?

Posted by: iamasofaking | June 24, 2009 5:38 PM |


Oh wait, I forgot...soccer has those TIE games.

Posted by: iamasofaking | June 24, 2009 5:39 PM |
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Actually, you forgot the World Cup was 3 years ago., That's how a 2 1/2 year unbeaten streak doesn't include the World Cup.

As for AIPAC's stupid comments about goalies' uniforms, it's obvious he hasn't played the game much.

What's with the trolls? Don't they have something better to do? They don't like that soccer fans have their own thing to get excited about?

The USA has played one helluva game to beat one of the 2 or 3 best teams in the world. If you can't enjoy it, just go away and let those of us who can...revel in it.

Posted by: fischy | June 24, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"PLAYER RATINGS
Howard 8; Spector 8, Onyewu 9, DeMerit 8, Bocanegra 8; Dempsey 8, Clark 6, Bradley 5, Donovan 8; Davies 7, Altidore 9. Subs: Feilhaber 7, Casey 5, Bornstein 5."

Gosh, what a game. Not much else to say.

Only ratings here I would question:
-Bocanegra would drop a little, probably to a 6. He was a little rusty.

-Clark had a phenomenal game. I'd give him an 8. Brilliant defensively.

-Casey once again was essentially useless and still lazy. I'd give him a 4. Still don't understand why he's put in the game, but I guess you don't want to jinx what's been working.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Great performance by team USA. The heart and passion by the collective unit of players was on full display today. Well done.

Posted by: uknowmeas-GQ | June 24, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"Casey once again was essentially useless and still lazy. I'd give him a 4. Still don't understand why he's put in the game, but I guess you don't want to jinx what's been working."

Put in Freddy Adu...

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Soccer has such huge flaws. Guys standing around half the time, dull back and forth ball movement without consequences or shots, the worst camera coverage in sports, ridiculous audio of horns blaring in the crowd like an auto horn stuck on after an accident, and the single worst feature of any sport anywhere - goal tenders with odd unis that make it impossible to tell what team they are on! Why does the goalie where his own separate uniform? Not even a variation of his team's but a totally separate uni! Ridiculous! The goalie is the guy with huge mickey mouse gloves, he does not need a confusing uniform.

So tell me, why the lame goalie unis? And no I only played when I was child, like most Americans.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

troll alert.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | June 24, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

SportzNut21 so why does the goalie where a third teams uni? I watched Italy v Spain, and as boring as soccer is half the time, and as obnoxious as the crowd's cheap braying horns where, what bothered me was the goalie in a Goodwill uniform. There has to be reason, please prove me a fool.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse


What is behind the goalie a completely different uniform??

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Goalies wear separate uniforms so that when there's a scrum in the box, there's no confusion as to who is allowed to use their hands.

Aside from that, it's a pretty moronic reason to consider that a "flaw" for a sport.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

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What is behind the goalie a completely different uniform??

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Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Ok thanks you twit. Like I could see the sissy girl gloves the size of your ego.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Americans are so simple. Don't you realize these games are fixed? Not only do most Americans know anything about soccer, they are also behind the rest of the world regarding knowledge of fixed games. Suckers!


Posted by: mortified469 | June 24, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

In a scrum at the net you can't tell which side is on offense, because you can't tell which team the goalie is on. It's the stupidest single feature of any major sport.

So thanks I'll let you women go back to your knitting.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 24, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

FYI, I am not trolling. I am a fan but I understand where things stand as far as international football competition. Even the top European leagues are fixed.


Posted by: mortified469 | June 24, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

@ AIPACiswar
"Guys standing around half the time,"

As long as it's not ALL the time, like in Baseball or constant stopping and interruptions like in American Football.

I agree the camera coverage needs improvement and the horns are obnoxious--in fact, FIFA is considering banning the horns for the World Cup.

I hope you enjoyed the game. If you didn't see anything worth watching in a game packed with offense and counter-attacks, then soccer probably isn't your game to watch.

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

RE: Goalkeeper uniform

A. The refs are blind and stupid and need all the help they can get.

End of discussion.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 24, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry buddy, once your IQ raises above 60, you'll be able hold a 2nd color per team in your memory.

I know it's difficult, but say it with me:

Spain is in Red.

US is in White.

Spain's goalie is in....

dammit, I forgot already. You're right. This game is too mentally difficult for me. I can't fathom how anybody is able to keep it all in their mind at one time.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

"A. The refs are blind and stupid and need all the help they can get."

I'm Blind! I'm Deaf! I wana be a ref! I'm Blind! I'm Deaf! I wana be a ref!I'm Blind! I'm Deaf! I wana be a ref!

Oh wait, I am a ref. =/

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

OK -- I apologize for first feeding the trolls. Let's move on.

Posted by: fischy | June 24, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

One would think that Gooch might have a reason to impress Spanish coaches, or something.

How many times does Dempsey have to be mediocre in midfield, only to be moved to forward and score a goal, for Bradley to realize that he could/should just start him at forward?

Posted by: pecanturtle | June 24, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Actually all of the Spanish players are allowed to use their hands...

to get the ball out of the net.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 24, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually happy to see the USMNT got top coverage for Sports Center. They also got Donovan on the phone and he says this game is the most special he's played in.

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

saw the game. great score

Posted by: Small_Town_Boredom | June 24, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbteeRuMFBE

Pretty funny considering the end result, but what a shame. As stated by the announcer, wouldn't even be a free kick in England.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Highlights here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CtjQPVQsJo

These announcers need to be promoted to ESPN.

Posted by: redskinsux | June 24, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic game! Early in the first half it was great to see the US put high pressure on a big time team like Spain. Once we got the goal we began to fall into bunker ball a bit, but it was a well played game. This team just really seems to be gaining confidence from this tournament. The final should be fun to watch -- likely a rematch against Brazil.

Posted by: mbyrd28 | June 24, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Is there a way the red could be overturned on appeal?

Posted by: mbyrd28 | June 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

the game was great and the crowd at Bloem was fully behild the US.some of he people who comment here are not aware thht that how we prefer football,with those noisy horns(in fact they are Vuvuzelas).

Demsey had a great game and Donovan was absolutelty pehenomenal.Well done u.s.a,hopefully we meet you in the finals and slaughter you.

Posted by: lucasthatelo | June 24, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

What a difference it makes, getting our totally unjustified straight red card in the 86th minute versus the 36th minute.

Go EAGLES!

Posted by: Bonmot1 | June 24, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

They go being happy Americans, therefore they go to face the fury of the Brazil in the end. We go to golear of 5 x 0…

Posted by: mrmussigcombr | June 24, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Bradley's red card is a crime. The ref should be ashamed of himself. He slid in with his cleats down and got the ball. It was barely a foul let alone a card let alone a red card. A travesty indeed.

Posted by: Conservativemindsareinshackles | June 24, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls?pCat=46&sCat=537

I also checked out this ESPN site and recommend everyone vote on the polls there, that include: whether this result will make us more likely to watch U.S. soccer, about the U.S. chances in the World Cup, who we thought was MOTM today, etc.

Posted by: popoki08 | June 24, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Michael Bradley get his last (USA) red card for exactly the same tackle? I bet he learned how to tackle by watching Paul Scholes videos.

Posted by: aardvark63 | June 24, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

the game was great and the crowd at Bloem was fully behild the US.some of he people who comment here are not aware thht that how we prefer football,with those noisy horns(in fact they are Vuvuzelas).

Demsey had a great game and Donovan was absolutelty pehenomenal.Well done u.s.a,hopefully we meet you in the finals and slaughter you.

Posted by: lucasthatelo | June 24, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

What's with the horns? Get rid of them, they're a disgrace.

Oh, and by the way, WE BEAT SPAIN!!!!

Congratulations to the pride of Olney, Maryland, Gooch Onyewu on a great performance!

Posted by: shovetheplanet | June 24, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm just glad Arkansas and Virginia weren't playing baseball on ESPN before this game.

Posted by: Lucius2 | June 24, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

What does Tim Howard have to do to earn a 10? Score a goal? He was phenomenal.

Posted by: DCity | June 24, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'm surprised. As a true Brazilian, I must say: Good luck in next match! You are facing the 5 times world-champion =)

Posted by: pedro56br2 | June 24, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

First of all, congratulations to u all.Being spanish, I was shocked how the defensive line and the two defensive midfilders worked together, I sure wasn´t expecting that teamwork. It looked like we could have being playing for a week without scoring...but I´m possitive that that won´t happen twice.
We missed too much Iniesta, Senna and Silva (they are 3 of our 4 first team midfielders), because even though the team attacked, it was in a non organized way...Anyways, as I said congrats to u from Spain

Posted by: javier1985 | June 24, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Great match by all, but Casey. But I was stunned that Conor Casey wouldn't or couldn't run or at least trot for the 10 minutes he was in the game to take some pressure off the D.

Spain seemed to have an average game and only a bad bounce or two kept them from scoring at least one goal.

Our defense was incredible starting with Onyewu and Demerit.

Posted by: Gre1 | June 24, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Javier. You guys play a good game of ball . . . to paraphrase Paul Newman.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | June 24, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

How many times does Dempsey have to be mediocre in midfield, only to be moved to forward and score a goal, for Bradley to realize that he could/should just start him at forward?

Posted by: pecanturtle | June 24, 2009 6:55 PM

exactly. Not that I really fault Dempsey much tonight, but he is so much better up top.

I'm still not down off my high from this afternoon. Watching it again off my DVR so I can record it to DVD. I'm keeping this one. Forever.

I love every single player from our team right now.

Posted by: sec133row5 | June 24, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

How many crap red cards can one team get in one tournament?

I hope Bradley took the role of "sideline soccer dad" and threw down his hot dog and went screaming at the ref after the game.

I'll bet we have about 9 men left on the field by the end of our final game against Brazil/South Africa. Unless we are winning in which case we may have to play with 5.

Posted by: Southeasterner | June 24, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I hope these last two games have showed why the "target" forward (as in one who isn't versatile enough to impact the game in other ways) is outdated and should be cast aside only as a situational option. Ching's a solid player that will be a good sub for the US, but there is no replacing two dynamic options up top.

I really, really, REALLY hope Bradley takes that to heart. I'm baffled everytime I see Casey step on the field.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I've just read in the spanish papers that Bradley was waiting for the referee in the locker room and tried to attack him...If that's true he wont be playing for a while...

Posted by: javier1985 | June 24, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I found out the CWS is really popular amongst soccer fans so it's worth noting the Texas-LSU series has been a good one. LSU just took a lead in Game 3.

Posted by: sitruc | June 24, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Goff,

Can you confirm that Michael Bradley attempted to go after the ref post-game?

I'd like to see something other than Spanish media report this.

Posted by: lastort1 | June 24, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

AIPACiswar,

You really need your own forum. Your razor wit was too much for this little soccer blog. Your schoolmates must be so proud!

Posted by: croftonpost | June 24, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

@AIPACiswar: lol, i will never understand you girls' obsessions with clothes!... *shakes head*

Posted by: dfunkt | June 24, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Honestly? If USA and Spain play 10 matches, USA would probably win one while Spain would win the rest. The game that EUA would win was the game we saw today.

Soccer is like that, not always the best team wins. Everyone who understands the game knows that. Just because USA won today it doesn't mean the american team is better than the spanish team. With all due respect to the american team, they didn't play better. They won because they took advantage of the only two opportunities they had, while Spain was unlucky of not being able to find the net in the 8 opportunities they had. Soccer is like that.

Not to forget that in the two americans goals a spanish player made a mistake. In the first, Casillas failed to grab an easy ball. In the second, Sergio Ramos failed to kick the ball as fast as he could far from the spanish defense.

A good team is able to find its own goals without getting help from the mistakes their adversaries make. But that doesn't take the credits off from the americans, who were really good in the defense, holding the spanish attack back. But don't forget that USA easily lost to Italy and to Brazil, teams who, together with Spain, are in the same level.

So, USA has a lot to improve. But for now, congratulations for your results and sorry for my bad english.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 24, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=657105&sec=global&cc=5901

I love this. It shows that Spain didn't lose to us. Instead, we beat Spain.

Posted by: GoUnited | June 24, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

guz: no me importa. EEUU ha ganado hoy.

Posted by: Reignking | June 24, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

great game for the boys from USA! We are starting to realize the benifits of having a quality club league, so thank you MLS. It is well past time for the average nightly sports cast to cover soccer/international football! As a native to the US and a 20+ year player and fan of soccer I am glad to see that the times they are a changing.

Posted by: hansenthered | June 24, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Reignking | June 24, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

"In a scrum at the net you can't tell which side is on offense, because you can't tell which team the goalie is on. It's the stupidest single feature of any major sport.

So thanks I'll let you women go back to your knitting."

If you tell it to a brazilian or to a italian, they would laugh so bad at your face! hahahaha

I can easily tell you which team is on the attack. It is simple: if the team is playing in a certain direction, the goalie who is facint this team is probably in the other team. Easy, no?

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 24, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Reignking

Actually, he propably stole this line from brazilians. That's because this is what we say when a bad team win over a good team back here in Brazil.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 24, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Soccer Insider made it in one of the Spanish dailies. Take a look.

http://www.elmundo.es/albumes/2009/06/24/socer_diarios_eeuu/index.html

Posted by: Lucius2 | June 24, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Tim Howard, June 18: "They're always going to be the better team, right?"

Tim Howard, June 24: ""I can't explain it any more than you can. "Sports is funny sometimes, but when you put your mind to something, you can achieve it."

http://politicomix.blogspot.com/2009/06/confederations-cup-diary-tim-howard.html

Posted by: YokoYoko00 | June 24, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

AIP...an idiot brian dead who still lives in a dark corner. You couldn't play when you are grown up because you suck like most here. This game requires pure skills unlike over weight fat a.... guys nocking each other or standing and spitting hours and hours...

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | June 24, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Also, with a nod to a previous commenter, from the Spanish daily, ABC, via Babel Fish,

"Timorous Spain played with fire until it was burned."

Posted by: Lucius2 | June 24, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Si se puede! Go USA!

Posted by: bluelagoon21 | June 24, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Honestly? If my team here in Brazil won a game but just kick two balls in the whole games I would be really, but really mad. That's because brazilians are not satisfied enough with the winning, we want to win but also to play good.

You guys are happy because you won over a great team, number one in the world according to FIFA and I understand that. You should be happy. But if Brazil had the same perfomance against a team like Spain and win the game anyway, we would be critizing the whole team right now, that's because a good team is expect to play really good in every game they are in.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 24, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

But, congratulations anyway =)

I was sad, though. I wanted the final to be Brazil versus Spain, that would be really fun to watch.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 24, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Screw it. Fire the coach!

Why would he tell his players to actually try to get red cards in this tournament. Come on! Really? Another Red? Seriously!

;)

Bring on South Africa!!!

Posted by: TCompton | June 24, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"Nobody in the American soccer federation will dare to claim that this was the day the country came of age in the world’s most important sport. Not until American boys and girls play feral soccer on their own, for the love of the sport, will the nation develop its own Jordan, its own Pujols, its own Crosby or Malkin, its own Maradona."

New York Post


USA developing its own Maradona? Noooo, I don't think so. haha

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 24, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Spanish men from Spain are hot! I would love to date one of the hot Soccer players from Spain.

Posted by: IHateBeingBlackInAmerica | June 24, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

NO WAY Bradley is a 5. I thought this was the best game I have ever seen him play. No way clark was the next lowest rated player. It was his best game as a Nat. Check yourself Goff

Posted by: davezerk | June 24, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure if Brazil ended the Spaniard's 35 match unbeaten streak with two goals, Dunga would have been fired.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 24, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I have no words. Given the way we've been playing of late this is most unexpected. More than it otherwise would've been. Magnificent!!

Impossible to pick a man of the match, this was a team effort. So many players stepped up.

Posted by: KireDCU | June 24, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

""No way clark was the next lowest rated player. It was his best game as a Nat. Check yourself Goff"

Clark was overmatched and underwhelming. He gave the ball up repeatedly with no pressure. He has to be composed as a center mid and all he did was turn it over for no reason.

And Bradley went in STUDS UP. Yeah, yeah, it probably wasn't straight red, but if a player is so BONEHEADED to do that after 2 other reds to teammates . . .?!?! Foolish challenge.

Posted by: delantero | June 24, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Well guz, hopefully your beloved Brazil doesn't slip on a banana peel against the South Africans tomorrow. You still need to win two matches, while we only need to win one.
Go USA!

Posted by: DadRyan | June 24, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Only disagreement w/ Goffs ratings is giving Bradley a 5. I'd give a 6.

Posted by: KireDCU | June 25, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Go USA, we rock! We really can do something in this sport, really we can. Check out GloomBoom.com for insight on the current economic crisis.

Posted by: GloomBoomDotcom | June 25, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Rico Clark was stellar defensively. No other way to put it. As influential as both Gooch and Demerit. Offensively, underwhelming. Defensively, stellar. Xavi was invisible in large part to Clark. Often times he was breaking up passes or providing clearances in the box. Can't say enough about his performance.

Little used fact so far: zero goals have been conceded by the US when Rico Clark has been on the field (knock on wood).

Posted by: psps23 | June 25, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Brasil -

If we meet and beat you Sunday, can we please have Sean Goldman back?

Just sayin'

Posted by: Chaspari1 | June 25, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Heck, even if we lose by a 5-spot, can we have Sean back anyway?

Please?

Posted by: Chaspari1 | June 25, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Gounited,
perfect ratings. I agree on all of them. almost as if I wrote them myself. Only disagreement is your comment about ramos. Great goal scorer, just had a bad game. Or better yet, was marked out of having a good, productive game!

Posted by: markt6 | June 25, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I just watched the match for the second time. I have to vehemently disagree with your 9 rating for Onyewu.

A central defender could hardly have a better game. I tried to count how many clearances out of the box he had, but I ran out of fingers and toes. The guy did not have a bad touch. He had several good deliveries to the midfield. He marked Torres and David Villa all game and never had a foul. And in the end, the US got the shutout. Onyewu clearly deserves a 10.

Posted by: imback | June 25, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

And can someone explain why the US wasn't called for offsides on the second goal? It's been a long time since I played - does the player have to actually touch the ball?

Posted by: Chaspari1 | June 25, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Chaspari, when Donovan struck the ball, Dempsey was even with the last defender. Because Donovan hit it across, it was kind of slow, and the defender deflected it, Dempsey ended up overrunning the ball making it look like he was off, but when Donovan played it originally, he wasn't offsides.

Posted by: psps23 | June 25, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Cool - thx for the clarification.

Posted by: Chaspari1 | June 25, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

imback,
He could have scored three goals and cleared out 50 balls out of the back. One mistake gives him a 9. It's basically saying he was flawless, except for one bad pass. A 10 in disguise. How could you not know that. First game?

Posted by: markt6 | June 25, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

DadRyan, it's funny, because I never said that Brazil will win this cup easily. We have all the potential to win this cup easily, but we can ended up like Spain too. We never know. All I'm just saying is that at the same time you guys are happy because of your victory over Spain, we would be mad about the team for just having two goals opportunities during the whole game. We care about results, of course, but we really prefer to win a match playing a fine soccer, with lot of opportunities going on until the end of the game. That's how we are. When Brazil won over Egypt, nobody was happy, even with the victory. That's because that was a weak victory, that's because if brazilians doen't see a really great game, with their team playing really good, they will be not satisfied. That's my point. If you put your fanatism aside a little bit, you'll see USA didn't play that good. They just took advantage of the two only opportunities they had during the whole game. Merits of them, of course, but in the soccer world, kicking the ball against the adversary net just two times in a game is really disappointing. But I'm congratulating USA, you guys showed the world a really impressive progress in this sport, but USA still have a long way ahead to play at the same level like teams such as Brazil, Argentina, England or Spain play. Just because you won one game, that doesn't mean anything. You need to have a really good sequence of winnings like Spain had and, just to remember, in the group stage you guys lost to Italy and to Brazil. In other words, USA doesn't have this sequence yet. That's how soccer is.

And, yes, of course, you guys can have Sean Goldman back, that's what I want to, that's what most of my brazilians friends want, but I'm not responsable for the brazilian judicial system, I'm just a student, so there's nothing I can do. So, I'm sorry.

And I-270Exit1, haha, you don't know us brazilians. The other day the president of São Paulo Football Team fired the coach Muricy Ramalho, after being 3 years heading the team, being three times Brazilian champion on a roll, two times Libertadores champion and one time world champion. Do you know the reason? The team didn't have a good start this year. Yes, we fire coaches despite of results. He can be champion of everything, but if he can't make his team to play a enjoyable soccer to watch, he's in the street. Simple that way. We are never satisfied, we always want to see our players showing the best soccer the world ever saw.

Dunga, for example, has a really good history ahead of Brazil. He won America's Cup, defeated our most hated rivals Argentina twice, is first in the world cup eliminatories and just lost a few games. Still, many people here want his head just because they don't think Brazil is playing good enough, despiste the results.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 25, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Going back to that brilliant US U-17 team with Donovan, Beasley and Onyewu, Convey and Beckerman --

In past years, Donovan emerged as a star pretty quickly, and Beasley had some great moments, whereas Onyewu was gaining notoriety for rough play and the occasional crucial penalty foul. Donovan, and to lesser extents Convey and Beasley succeeded despite their size. In contrast, it seemed all Onyewu had going for him was his size. His game has really grown in the last couple of years. He shows touch and vision when he has the ball, and he had really made full use of all his physical gifts. He now really sees the game as a defender -- the best central defender since Eddie Pope -- and it allows him to make huge plays by anticipating where the ball is going to go. While Convey and Beasley have really slipped back in the last couple of years, Onyewu has made bigger strides than probably any other American. As the one defender who has been consistently strong for 90 minutes in every game in this tournament, he must get an enormous amount of credit for this success. Olney boy does good.

Posted by: fischy | June 25, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Ok, sorry - back to the offsides question..

I was referring to the pass from Feilhaber to Donovan, when they and and all of Spain's defenders were all well above the PK circle and Altidore was in the box already... was there no offsides because Jozy wan't involved in the play (even though he was right in the middle of it)?

And thanks, Gus, for the support. bringseanhome.org if anyone's interested....

Posted by: Chaspari1 | June 25, 2009 1:26 AM | Report abuse

@Chaspari -- you got it right. Donovan was onside. Jozy was in an offside position, but did not become involved in the play, so it's no foul.

Posted by: fischy | June 25, 2009 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Goff, I love you man, but you are too stingy with your ratings today. Guys deserved better.

Howard 10
Spector 8
Onyewu 10
DeMerit 10
Bocanegra 9
Dempsey 10
Clark 8
Bradley 8
Donovan 10
Davies 8
Altidore 9
Subs: Feilhaber 9

team effort: 11

Posted by: Tolik | June 25, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

You see, I knew this would happen. A 6 for Ricardo Clark?!?!?! Goff, most people need the announcers to tell them who is making the biggest impact in a game and I guess you are one of them. You didn't hear his name much and he would have been easy to overlook, but I felt Clark was easily the Man-of-the-Match. He contested Spain's every single shot, pass and touch and he was often able to break up the play while maintaining possession for us instead of just knocking it away. That was the best defensive midfield effort I have ever seen with the US National Team. Rewatch the tape and focus on Rico's effort in the middle. He was fantastic.

Ricardo Clark = Man-of-the-Match

Posted by: AtlantaMLS | June 25, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

That is a BS rating for Bradley. He did not deserve that red card. You shouldn't penalize him for bad officiating.

Posted by: no_recess | June 25, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I love how we won yesterday, too -- it wasn't that we won 1-0 on a PK; those first 25 minutes, we really attacked and created. I was disappointed that we sat back a bit after the goal.

Jozy wasn't that good -- I love how he muscled for the goal, but I didn't see much more from him. Davies was much, much better. How about that attempted bicycle? :)

LD...tournaments like this just make me want to see how he would do in Europe.

The outside backs had a lot of work to do, because they were pinched in and not always getting help. But more often than not, they did very well.

Clark was great, but Bradley disappeared until that red.

We shot better, from outside, which we hadn't been doing.

DeMerit was phenomenal -- I'm hoping he benefits from this exposure and moves up to a better team. Howard smothered all rebounds. Onyewu, a rock once again.

Another thing -- a nice, clean game. No diving. BS red card. Oh, then there is LD drawing a foul (and then a yellow for a Spaniard) by acting like he was elbowed. Yikes.

Posted by: Reignking | June 25, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

So, is it too soon to start discussing ... what should our midfield be looking like with the coach's boy out ...

Do we try and shuffle to bring in Adu (sub-topic -- would Adu be any good as a holding midfielder?) or maybe Torres?

Discuss

Posted by: stephen9885 | June 25, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

stephen, there really is only one option. It will (and should) be Benny Feilhaber.

I think it's pretty safe to say that Adu and Torres will not be seeing the field on Sunday unless we have a significant deficit that needs to be made up. I think they should be seeing time, but Sacha and Casey will be ahead on the pecking order.

Posted by: psps23 | June 25, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

@guz_fernendes: Drop the back handed compliments. You congratulate us for the win and then say how ugly we played to get it. Sometimes the prettier team does not win (e.g. USA women v Brazil in the 2008 Olympics). We had a better game plan than Spain and we executed it well. Spain did not execute their plan.

Sure, Brazil has Jogo Bonito. Like your player who made a spectacular dive in the 2007 Women's World Cup to have Shannon Boxx sent off. That was pure artistry.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 25, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

A couple things.

First, crow tastes great! I couldn't be more happy to be wrong.

Second, not saying it should be red but Bradley's cleats were exposed, the foot was low, but his toe was pointed straight up. Weak card, but unfortunately defensible for the ref.

Lastly, gee who would have thought to put bocanegra at left back? Duh. I still have questions about Bradley's decision making but hey, if he can motivate his guys like this he might end up getting somewhere. Lets hope we play with this much heart in Mexico City! Oh, and hopefully some of these guys will get regular spots in Europe. What were there just 3 guys that even start in teams in the top 4 leagues?

Posted by: Brian76 | June 25, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

A little belated; I'm still recovering from post-match celebration (Fosters Oil Cans...)

That was a fantastic show. I think Donovan's work rate was brilliant. Dempsey, as well. It has been a long time since I've seen a collective effort like that, and it was awesome. Maybe other posters are right, maybe what this team needs is time together to build as a unit.

I also must give BB credit; he has changed players about in his roster in a manner I didn't think he would do. Demeritt looks to be a mainstay, and he's out there; Davies was dangerous in the first half; and, obviously, moving dempsey around has resulted in two key goals. I would think without Bradlito in the final then Feilhabber will start with Clark. But, it seems like Bradlito and Feilhabber will be a good middle tandem.

Anyway, thanks to the team for such an effort.

Posted by: hacksaw | June 25, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I think the win by the US over Spain ranks as one of the greatest achievments for American soccer over the last 60 years, going back to the US upset over England in 1950. There appears to be a strong consensus among soccer insiders and fans on this point.

However, I am concerned that coverage of this achievement did not warrant greater attention in news stories and even in the Washington Post. By contrast, the achievements of the Washington Captials this past season was covered in great detail.

I think it would be well received by the international community here and the US fan base, if the Post would expand coverage of this event and acknowledge the achievements of US soccer in the same way that local sports teams are covered in the Post. That is my opinion.

Posted by: dfrazier2 | June 25, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I-270Exit1, I'm not talking about "Joga Bonito" or playing beautifully. I'm talking about efficiency. I'm talking about playing offensive, holding the ball, not letting the adversary team pass the ball, creating as many opportunies as the team can create. It's very rare in a soccer match a team score two goals in the only two opportunities they had in the whole game. It's very rare. This is the kind of thing that doesn't happen twice and, if it happens, it's luck. But you can't depend on a factor that you can't control, can you? So any soccer team who doesn't want to depend on luck try to create as many goals opportunities as they can, so in one of these opportunities they can find the net. Soccer is played this way.

And I will not drop my compliments. In the defense the USA team did a really good job not letting the strong spanish attack find the goal. I didn't see too many clear opportunities for Spain, because you guys were able to hold them off. USA also took advantage very well of their opportunities. Good job. But if USA wants to keep playing at a high level, they must know how to play offense too. That's because USA can't expect that every game they play they will score a goal in all opportutinies they will have. Yesterday's match was an exepction, because is not easy to score a goal against a team like Spain, even for Brazil. But I'm not saying that USA didn't deserve the opportunity to play the final, not, I'm not saying that. I agree with you, you guys executed your game plan well while the Spain didn't. But the game plan USA executed is the game plan that all small teams adopt. If they score a goal early in the game, the team will play defense the rest of the game to try to hold the result and, if they have an opportunity in a counter-attack, they will try to score a goal. Just look to the numbers, Spain held the ball more than USA, Spain kicked the ball against the american net more than USA. It was a game offense against deffense and a team who only play defense, doesn't know how to play offense. They just counter-attack and, normally, the teams who play this way, are team technically inferior, but USA compensate its inferiority showing a good organization in defense. That's my point. If USA wants to play at the same level as european super powers and Brazil and Argentina, they have to stop to play more in deffense and learn how to play offensive. That's because this is the game plan that win championships. Itally in 2006, Brazil in 2002, France in 1998, Brazil again in 1994, all these teams play offensive. Here we like to say that the best deffense is to play offensive. And in fact this is true, if you hold the ball in their defensive area, the adversary can't create goal opportunities. That's how Brazil likes to play, for example.

In the last match USA faced Brazil, the americans played deffensive too and look what happened.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 25, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

And if anyone tell me "we are not inferior to Spain, we defeated them", I will answer "you think this way because you don't undersand soccer".

That's because I'm tired watching bad teams winning over good teams. That's because soccer is not a fair game, not always the team who plays better win all the games.

Spain didn't play better than USA yesterday, but Spain is a way better national team than USA and I agree with Casillas, in 10 matches between USA and Spain, is more likely that Spain will win the most.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 25, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic win for the boys. Here are my player ratings for the game, if anyone is interested.

http://www.mls-daily.com/2009/06/player-ratings-us-vs-spain.html

Posted by: eubh223 | June 25, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for the soccer education guz_fernandes. Apparently I had learned very little since watching my first World Cup in 1974.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 25, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I-270Exit1, you get me wrong all the time. I'm not trying to educate anyone here. I'm just trying to explain my point, my opinions. For example, you got me wrong when you said for me to drop the back handed compliments. My compliments for USA team was very sincere. All I just tried to say is that beating Spain one time doesn't make any team a good team. I showed you my arguments, if you don't agree with them, so there is nothing I can do. But don't insinuate that I'm an arrogant who are trying to educate you. So that's the reaction that I get when I try to defend my opinion? I'm here with all due respect to the american team, making a point of view from an outsider. What's the problem of that?

You want an example? Last year, Venezuela defeated Brazil in a friendly match at the same way USA defeated Spain. That makes Venezuela a good team? No. In the eliminatories they are the last while Brazil is first. Simple that way.

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 26, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

And we will see you guys in the final. =)

Posted by: guz_fernandes | June 26, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

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