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Tuesday Kickaround

*Read my front-page D.C. United story about the roster and U.S. Open Cup.

*Tonight's Open Cup semifinals:
Rochester vs. DCU at Maryland SoccerPlex, 7:30 ET (no live video)
Houston vs. Seattle in Tukwila, Wash., 10 (live video at soundersfc.com)
Read about the Sounders' secondary home field.

*USA Coach Bob Bradley has recalled Denmark-based defender Michael Parkhurst and turned to Fire goalkeeper Jon Busch as Troy Perkins's back-up for Thursday's Gold Cup semifinal against Honduras at Chicago's Soldier Field. Goalie Luis Robles has returned to Germany to begin preseason training with Kaiserslautern.

*Chelsea vs. Inter Milan at the Rose Bowl (11 p.m. ET, ESPN2).

*WPS all-star voting is underway. Cast your ballot here.

*More video from Sunday's halftime chaos at Home Depot Center:

By Steve Goff  |  July 21, 2009; 8:42 AM ET
Categories:  Beckham , Gold Cup , U.S. Open Cup , U.S. men's national team , Women  
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Comments

Becks is SO done in the states.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | July 21, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Kinda makes this seem a little silly now:

"We regret the incident that happened at the end of the first half. While it is important that our fans remain free to voice their opinions, they must do so in an appropriate manner. We appreciate our players and fans' passion for the team and the game, but we all must aim to hold ourselves to higher standards."

Posted by: Hoost | July 21, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

maybe he really did just want to shake hands? Did he think that he could win this guy over by simply touching his greatness? But he certainly did call the guy down to the field.

It's just all so bizarre.

Posted by: fedssocr | July 21, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I just said this on the last thread, but the best part of this video is when you go to its page on youtube is the supposedly foreign commentators/commenters just keep saying "stupid american/you should be happy you have him/you're lucky to get one good player/etc"

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 21, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

That video is not what I expected. The one from yesterday from behind showed him pointing and trying to jump the sign and I imagined him with a scowl, calling the guy out. In this video it looks like he was smiling as he tried to jump over. I do think he was just trying to talk to the fan.

Now what about the video from the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Golden_Child | July 21, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Golden_Child is right: this is the ultimate example of there being two sides to this story, and then the truth. Each side even has a video that seems to support their claims.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 21, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

What video are you guys watching? It sure as hell looks to me like Becks is instigating (even if he didn't start it). The constant pointing and telling a guy to come down in the beginning is proof enough.

If he just wanted to shake the guys hand he would have walked over to the stands and shook it, not told him to come down on the pitch. The smiling and attempt to shake his hand after is just head games, playing nice just makes the other guy even angrier. I know, I do it too.

Posted by: BKMD | July 21, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

unbelievably, I'm on Beckham's side on this one. Looks like he was trying to be the "bigger man" in this case, or at least show up a pompous whiny Galaxy fan. I approve of either action.

Posted by: me_ahogo | July 21, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Can we get a Matchnight US Open Cup Semi-final: United-Rochester thread going?

I'm getting Beckham burnout.

Posted by: Golden_Child | July 21, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

He repeatedly motioned for the fan to come down to the field. Interpret intentions after that as you want. It was still wrong.

I don't think we'll see Robles again anytime soon.

Posted by: sitruc | July 21, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

sucks for the guy who got banned for life. seems like overkill to me

Posted by: irebatt | July 21, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

And I'm disappointed about that. He sounded to be solid for club the second half of the season.

Surely United notes are coming soon.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 21, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I don't think we'll see Robles again anytime soon.

Posted by: sitruc | July 21, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. It was just one game, but he looked completely out of his depth.

If we are going to look at young keepers for the USMNT I would rather see Seitz or try to bring in Frei for a look before he goes to Switzerland.

Posted by: Golden_Child | July 21, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Sportscenter is showing highlights of Madrid's friendly with Shamrock Rovers. Like, literally. And not just Ronaldo, like they talked about before the highlights. A full 45 seconds and all.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 21, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Sportscenter is showing highlights of Madrid's friendly with Shamrock Rovers. Like, literally. And not just Ronaldo, like they talked about before the highlights. A full 45 seconds and all.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 21, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

this whole becks situation could be worse.
"Colombian player says he didn’t mean to kill fan"

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AoosVdJqn0OT8xMAEU8qRO.CZtEF?slug=ap-colombia-playershooting&prov=ap&type=lgns

Posted by: nairbsod | July 21, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

So Simms is seeing a hernia specialist in Germany. Does this mean he's about to have a family emergency in Argentina?

Posted by: benonthehill | July 21, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Beckham will do EXACTLY what he says he's going to do. He will not buy-out his contract, but instead will go on the half season loan to Milan or elsewhere. Show up to the Galaxy in mid July/early August after the World Cup and "retiring" from England and play out his days here where he won't be distracted by trying to reach another World Cup.

Also - He's gone short sleeves twice now. This from the man who's always worn long sleeves to cover up his tattoos reasoning that "it's important that his personal style does not conflict with the shirt he's wearing".

He's still wearing long sleeves in Milan and England shirts...

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | July 21, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Becks is trying to start a new LA gang.

Posted by: Reignking | July 21, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Would like to see DC United play the Galaxy for the Cup in November.

Posted by: OWNTF | July 21, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Or maybe it's just hotter in LA in summer than it is in Manchester in winter. Can we please nip ShirtGate in the bud?

Posted by: asfoolasiam | July 21, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

You asked to discuss tonight's USOC match...I deliver. Lineup:

Kocic
John/Burch Janicki McTavish
Wallace Jacobson DiRaimondo Szetela Khumalo
N'Silu Pontius

Fred/Gomez/Moreno your 3 subs (and possibly Burch, if John starts)

A possible alternative -- Olsen starts in the middle, pushing Szetela wide and Khumalo up top, while Pontius sits. I'm just thinking that with the long flight, Soehn may not be figuring on using Olsen in San Jose, so it might make sense to use him against Rochester.

Of course, if Szetela's papers haven't come through, I gotta scramble. Probably Fred in the CAM slot, but maybe Gomez.

Posted by: fischy | July 21, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Fine Goldenballs! He sure as he#$ wasn't going over their to kiss and make up. "Trying to be the better/bigger man"?!? Are you serious? He came to MLS to further his media world/image/brand. He couldn't care less about the Galaxy or the fans.

Posted by: delantero | July 21, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

sucks for the guy who got banned for life. seems like overkill to me

Posted by: irebatt | July 21, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

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You're not allowed to jump on the field, he jumped out of the stands and onto the field. That's tresspassing. A statement needs to be set on both of them. He gets a ban, but Beckham should get a fine or something. You can't confront fans like that, it's too dangerous to the fans and players.

Posted by: adamsunited | July 21, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Shame on Goff for not including a link to SI understudy Paul Tenofrio's page 2/blog piece about returning to the pool.

http://reachforthewall.com/2009/07/20/diving-back-in-day-one-youre-going-to-die/

Posted by: fischy | July 21, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

If Olsen isn't going to play in SJ play him tonight. If we are going to use him in SJ he should sit tonight and not even be a sub. Olsen is best used as an every other game player at this point. We need to keep him fit for the end of the season.

Posted by: Golden_Child | July 21, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

excuse me, but i believe that's "sleevegate"

Posted by: la2stl | July 21, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

With Conrad down, the Parkhurst call-up is probably a good one.

As for Robles, I imagine his departure has far less to do with his performance here than with the need to get back in the training mix there. He's competing for a starting job there, as he only played because of an injury to the previous #1, Thomas Sippel. Sippel's back and there was already concern expressed about Robles missing time.

Posted by: fischy | July 21, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

BKMD: "What video are you guys watching? It sure as hell looks to me like Becks is instigating (even if he didn't start it). The constant pointing and telling a guy to come down in the beginning is proof enough."

Proof once again that people will see exactly what they want to see.

He's smiling. You see that, right? And you see him extend his hand three times, right? In a handshake gesture.

Goff, I swear to God you attract the dumbest commenters.

Posted by: very_clever_username | July 21, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Goff, I swear to God you attract the dumbest commenters.

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You haven't been to SBI in a while. I mean, it looks like he only starts smiling after the guy comes down, almost as if he's baiting him into it, then thinking "Oh he took it" and feeling proud of himself.

Maybe I'm wrong. Who knows what happened at this point?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 21, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Won't players such as Bompastor still be across the pond when the ASG rolls around? Even teams that are eliminated in group play will be engaged through the end of August. Is there any point to voting for such players?

Posted by: universityandpark | July 21, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

u&p -- I wondered the same thing, but still plan to vote for Bompastor 25 times. There must be some honor associated with the fan vote even if they can't play.

If selection is performance-based, Wambach will not make it on her season to date.

Posted by: OWNTF | July 21, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Yeah. He was totally doing a "hard" face during the "let's go" phase. The smile only came out during the "hold me back" phase.

Jerk.

Posted by: mason08 | July 21, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

What's that nonsense on the WPS site. They ask you to select your favorite team. OK. Then they ask for your other favorite team? Other favorite team? What real sports fan has an "other favorite team" in the same league?

"Oh yes, I like Celtic, but I also like Rangers." That will get you killed in Glasgow by Protestants and Catholics. Even the Buddhists will want in on that action.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | July 21, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

very_clever_username: Proof once again that people will see exactly what they want to see.

He's smiling. You see that, right? And you see him extend his hand three times, right? In a handshake gesture.

Goff, I swear to God you attract the dumbest commenters.

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Way to ignore the second half of my post. If you want to break it down even further Becks seems to be in an awfully big hurry for a second or two to leap over the video board as security grabs him to hold him back. Surely Becks was so excited at the prospect of shaking this fan's hand that he had to get over to him as fast as he possibly could. Surely it couldn't have been because he was agitated and wanted to go after the guy.

Posted by: BKMD | July 21, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I think Becks was trying to bait the fan into jumping onto the field knowing it would get the fan escorted out. That smile on his face when he feigned jumping the boards was a bit of a Nelson from the Simpsons kind of "Hah ha" gesture, as in I goaded you into jumping, fool.

Posted by: mcontento | July 21, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Hmm - they call themselves the Riot Squad . . . not a Beckham fan myself(certainly not a fan of prima dona Donovan either), but having been to many games, most sports fans are morons.
I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to Beckham . . .

Posted by: LCR-54 | July 21, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I hope the coverage of this whole saga gives some clarity to the Euro-posers in America. The British Media hates America. That isn't a statement limited to soccer - they really do hate America (born out of insane jealousy since their empire died). It doesn't matter how obvious the situation, the British (including ex-Pats) will denounce America and Americans. The funny part is that the Euro-poser thinks he/she is being cool, but they are equally hated by the Brits, and unbelievably self-loathing.

Posted by: mediaman1976 | July 21, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

OT - Washington Freedom is having an event at Garretts in Georgetown tomorrow night (starting at 7) to watch the WNT team play against Canada. Some of the Freedom players will be guest bartenders.
http://www.womensprosoccer.com/Home/dc/offthefield/freedom-at-garretts.aspx

Heard there might be a five dollar cover at the door but all the money goes to Freedom Inspires, which promotes youth soccer initiatives. More on Freedom Inspires here:

http://www.womensprosoccer.com/Home/dc/about/freedom-inspires.aspx

Posted by: soccerfan80 | July 21, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

SF80: Thanks for the tip! I will certainly try to attend if possible. I'm not familiar with Garrett's. Has anyone else out there in the SI blogosphere been to this joint before? Is it a soccer-friendly place in general, and thus a potential alternative to Summers, etc. for other occasions?

Posted by: cow_pasture | July 21, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Will Limarzi be doing radio/Internet audio from the 'Plex tonight?

Posted by: cow_pasture | July 21, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Most important of all, what sort of selection of beers does Garrett's have?

Posted by: cow_pasture | July 21, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe it's just hotter in LA in summer than it is in Manchester in winter. Can we please nip ShirtGate in the bud?

Posted by: asfoolasiam | July 21, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? This is hot, hot news. You remember Becks wearing long sleeves in Africa hot DC last June don't you?

What's the point about talking Open Cup when our club has nothing but excuses as to why they can't televise it or provide a live feed. How is an expansion team doing one, while DCU, the defending champions can't seem to get it together?
Weak

Posted by: DadRyan | July 21, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Is Szetela eligible to play tonight?

Posted by: DadRyan | July 21, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

An observation from Steinbog, from this morning's online chat:

"Sure, security stepped in, but you think there's any chance Beckham was going to make like he was going to fight the fan if he hadn't known security would step in?
That was never close to an actual physical confrontation, and both sides knew it was never going there, even the idiot fan who jumped down. You can't get next to Beckham in a club; you think you're going to jump down from the bleachers, cross that not-insignificant buffer zone, hurdle the fence and then attack one of the most security-conscious athletes in the world? It was all a show."

Posted by: cow_pasture | July 21, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I would love to have seen that guy kick the crap out of Beckham...If you ask me, Beckham is a real closet case...

Posted by: alan19 | July 21, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Another Steinbog observation, on Beckham and Donovan: "D.C. United has the great advantage of having its superstar players all coming from non-English speaking countries, so it's harder for them to just dice each other up in the media."

Posted by: cow_pasture | July 21, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

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