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Americans Abroad

Tim Howard 90 in Everton's 6-1 loss to Arsenal
Brad Friedel 90 in Aston Villa's 2-0 loss to Wigan
Troy Perkins 90 in Valerenga's 1-0 loss to Lillestrom
Brad Guzan in 18, didn't play in Aston Villa's 2-0 loss to Wigan
Marcus Hahnemann in 18, didn't play in Wolves' 2-0 loss to West Ham
Luis Robles in 18, didn't play in Kaiserslautern's 1-0 win at Ahlen
David Yelldell 90 in Koblenz's 3-2 win over Arminia Bielefeld
Carlos Bocanegra 90 in Rennes' 1-1 tie at Nice
Jonathan Spector 25 in West Ham's 2-0 win at Wolves
Jay DeMerit 90 in Watford's 2-0 loss at Sheffield United
Steve Cherundolo not in 18 in Hanover's 1-1 tie with Mainz
Frank Simek in 18, didn't play in Sheffield Wednesday's 1-1 tie at Peterborough
Michael Parkhurst 90 in Nordsjaelland's 1-1 tie at Koge
Michael Orozco 90 (goal!) in San Luis' 3-0 win over Pachuca
Clarence Goodson 90 in Start's 1-0 win over Fredrikstad
Hunter Freeman 90 in Start's 1-0 win over Fredrikstad
Marco Vidal first 45 in Indios' 5-0 loss at Morelia
Edgar Castillo 90 in Tigres' 2-1 win at Pumas
Danny Califf and Midtjylland at Odense Monday
Clint Dempsey 90 in Fulham's 1-0 win at Portsmouth
DaMarcus Beasley in 18, didn't play in Rangers' 4-1 win over Falkirk
Sal Zizzo 14 in Hanover's 1-1 tie with Mainz
Michael Bradley not in 18 in Moenchengladbach's 2-1 win over Hertha Berlin
Benny Feilhaber 9 in Aarhus' 1-0 win at Copenhagen
Jose Francisco Torres first 45 in Pachuca's 3-0 loss at San Luis
Jeremiah White 71 in Aarhus' 1-0 win at Copenhagen
Jemal Johnson 90 in MK Dons' 0-0 tie at Swindon Town
Alejandro Bedoya and Orebro vs. Djurgarden on Monday
Charlie Davies second 45 (two goals!) in Sochaux's 3-2 loss to Bordeaux
Kenny Cooper 72 in 1860 Munich's 2-1 loss at Hansa Rostock
Eddie Johnson not in 18 in Fulham's 1-0 win at Portsmouth
Marcus Tracy not in 18 in Aalborg's 1-0 win over Sonderjyske
Matt Taylor in 18, didn't play in FSV Frankfurt's 4-0 loss at Greuther Fuerth
Mike Grella in 18, didn't play in Leeds' 1-0 win at Wycombe

Davies' goals:

By Steve Goff  |  August 16, 2009; 2:14 PM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad  
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Davies is quickly becoming one of my favorite players.

Posted by: sitruc | August 16, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Davies -- We may be witnessing the rise of a world-class striker.

Michael Orozco -- I asked this recently, and no one picked up on it: Why isn't he getting a look from Bob Bradley?

Demerit was very frustrated with the goals, but he didn't seem to do anything on either play...

I saw Grella just signed a deal. Is that why he didn't play? Not up to fitness?

Anyone know why neither Bradley nor Tracy were even in their 18? I'm thinking Bradley must be under quarantine, like 'Dolo. What's up with Tracy? I thought he did really well there last year...

Any and all answers welcomed...

Finally: David Yelldell??? Who uncovered this guy?

Posted by: fischy | August 16, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

In the midnight hour
She cried "More. More More."
With a Yelldell
She cried "More. More More."

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 16, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Villa looked very lackadaisical yesterday. Like DCU in Toronto.

Posted by: Pedalada | August 16, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fischy | August 16, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey's shot deflected off Zamora for Fulham's goal. I guess that's an assist.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 16, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Orozco is good but he's primarily a central defender where the US pool is plenty deep. In a pinch, he can play left back like he did in the Olympics. That makes him more useful but he's still probably well behind Bocanegra in both those roles.

Hopefully USMNT management is keeping a close eye on him. He definitely has plenty of potential for the future but I'd put him down around the Parkhurst or Boswell end of the player pool rather than the Bocanegra, Gooch, Demerit end.

I hope he keeps playing well and proves me wrong enough to make a case for US starting XI!

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | August 16, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Finally: David Yelldell??? Who uncovered this guy?
Posted by: fischy
Doesn't answer your question, but some info on Yelldell from Yanks Abroad

"After early stints, first with TSG Backnang and later with Stuttgart Kickers, the talented young goalkeeper was signed by Blackburn Rovers in July of 2003 as cover for another American, Brad Friedel.

Blackburn was able to avoid work permit difficulties in signing Yelldell because he holds dual German nationality, as he was born in Stuttgart.

Yelldell made his debut in a preseason friendly against D.C. United of Major League Soccer. The tie of 1-1 pushed the match to penalties, where D.C. emerged the victor in the seventh round of shots.

With Friedel holding steady in goal for Blackburn, Yelldell was granted a loan to Coca Cola League Brighton to help him gain experience in the end of January, 2005.

At the conclusion of the season, Yelldell was released by Rovers and the young keeper quickly rejoined Stuttgart Kickers in the Regionalliga in time for preseason preparations.

International Career: Yelldell has not been capped for any senior or youth national teams."

Posted by: emanon13 | August 16, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

An American abroad ran a second place 9.71s for 100m(American record). I'm sure that fits in this thread. Unfortunately it was the Jamaicans who got to show a few moves to make Davies jealous.

Posted by: sitruc | August 16, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame Tim Howard has to have that score by his name because those goals were not his fault at all.

Posted by: spikeman | August 16, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse


(that may belong in Furriners in America if that topic gets started)

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | August 16, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Here's the Dempsey deflection goal.

Posted by: Lucius2 | August 16, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Why no note about Jozy and his God Dam! work permit? I really think Castillo should get a look for LB for the national team.

Posted by: no_recess | August 16, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Zoltan for getting a red card in his debut.

Posted by: sitruc | August 16, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, only one or two NOT in the 18's?!

What gives, did the Confed Cup run convince the Euro Snob coaches that maybe gringos can play football????

Posted by: delantero | August 16, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

that's one lousy day for US keepers. even the lone winner let in two. of course, it was a pretty lousy day all around, except for orozco and davies.

cable guy comes thursday, so maybe I'll get to see some games next weekend.

Posted by: troy6 | August 16, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I have a non-gay man-crush on Charlie Davies.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 16, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

@Jacob - Who doesnt? :)

Posted by: spikeman | August 16, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Well, those weren't the prettiest goals, but neither was the one against Egypt.

I'll take them.

Still, we can't pin our hopes on him. Haven't we learned anything from Adu and Jozy? I still think the latter could become worthy international players, but we need other strikers to step up now, have at least three on a hot streak going into South Africa. (Ching need not apply).

If I see another 4-5-1, with Davies up top, I am going to be sick.

In 06, we placed a ton of pressure on Donovan to be the man. At some point, we have to be able to say, "That's great. Who's next?"

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 16, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Outta the loop all weekend. The first thought running through my mind looking at Timmy Howard's scoreline was, "dang, come up on that swine flu too"?

That Fulham goal was a pile of garbage. Too bad Dempsey couldn't get some garbage in Mexico, and after watching DCU play like toothless old men I'd take some garbage goals from them too. How's the whole ladies night thing going to go over without a Mr. Beckham next weekend? LOL.

And yes, Charlie Davies is becoming quite the American Hero. Gettin' it done. I hope Jozy and Adu can start working on their game as well.

Posted by: DadRyan | August 16, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Doh! Didn't realize LA played Chicago on Wednesday. OHhhh thank goodness....

Posted by: DadRyan | August 16, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

@Dad -- Howard wasn't that bad, though he let Cesc abuse him on one goal. About Fulham -- actually, it was really nice turn and shot from Dempsey -- night have found the back of the net, if Zamora hadn't gotten in the way. About Beckham -- he won't miss the game @ RFK (please, let's have no more comments about that -- As has been noted by several other posters in the different threads, Becks' suspension will be for Wed. night game).

@no_recess -- I'm sure Castillo will get a look. If his paperwork gets through in time, odds are he'll get a call-up for the last WCQ @RFK -- though I doubt BB will risk changing things up by starting a new player in the last, crucial game.

Posted by: fischy | August 16, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I thought "no-homo" was assumed in these discussions. I mean we're talking about sweaty guys running around in shorts chasing balls not big muscular guys wearing helmets and tight pants.

What just happened?

I counted four not in the 18, delantero.

Posted by: sitruc | August 16, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Davies must either have a great agent, or an excellent fan backing him, because that is one well-edited youtube highlight video

Posted by: diego_r | August 16, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Stupid how a japanese mushroom could jinx a post in the filter.
Come on Goff! Post my stuff man...;-)

Posted by: DadRyan | August 17, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Kicker(Germany) reports that M.Bradley and Cherundolo were both "quarantined b/c of LD's Swine flu". Added comments were to give them rest until Tuesday's matches b/c of lomg trips and altitude in Mexico City.

Posted by: bechtoldpk | August 17, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse


I couldn't agree more about Bradley. I think his lineups are just as creative as Soehn's.

Posted by: no_recess | August 17, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Freddy Adu. So far gone, he's not in not in the 18.

Posted by: OWNTF | August 17, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

With the start-up of the European seasons and the completion of recent MLS- euro friendlies, I'm reminded that one big difference between MLS and top euro teams is a simple one, and that is *movement* on and off the ball. Of course, this is not the ONLY difference between MLS and top euro teams, but this one is a big one, and I think correctable.

One consistent theme in the MLS v non-MLS friendlies I saw this summer was the non MLS teams were in almost constant motion. Passes consistently went to guys who were already on the move, forcing the MLS side to work a lot harder to defend and win the ball.

MLS passes, on the other hand, far too often went from one stationary guy to another. The pass receiver would immediately be set upon by 2 nor three opponents, and would give up the ball, or, at best, play a square or negative ball.

The Toronto-Real Madrid game probably exhibited this most vividly. Toronto came out playing the classic MLS-style stop-motion game, with one red-shirted statue passing the ball to another red-shirted statue who would promptly cough up the ball. TFC were down 3-0 to Madrid before they knew what hit them.

Toronto started to play a lot better after the half, and actually managed to put one by Real to make it 4-1 enroute to a 5-1 final score. The biggest difference I saw in TFC's play was they *moved*. Passers were on the move, and pass receivers were on the move. In the other friendlies, MLS sides held up better against their superior euro opponents when they started doing the simple thing of *moving* on and off the ball.

Why don't MLS sides show more movement? It drives me crazy, in watching MLS game after MLS game, to see the guy with the ball just *standing there* with it, hoping the defense will kindly get out of his way so he can have an easier time making his pass or shot; realizing that the defense has nothing better to do but keep defending, so he makes a pass to another guy who is just standing around already covered, who in turn needs to labor mightily to extricate himself from double or triple coverage so he can pass back to his goalkeeper or lose the ball.

DC United has their own variation of this. They love to pass the ball up the flank to a guy who is standing (opertaive word here) an inch from the sideline who already has a couple of defenders on him. Once he gets the ball, two defenders become three, and the result is usually a turnover, or a negative ball if he is realy lucky.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I screamed "MOVE!!!!" at the TV set while watching a game involving DCU or other MLS teams.

Posted by: Ron16 | August 17, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Good point, Ron. I watched an A-league game last night and I couldn't help but thinking that it was much more entertaining than any MLS match I've seen in a while. The main difference was the thinking ahead and passing into space, trying to make the defenders move enough to make some holes.

Entirely not what United did on Saturday.

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 17, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

"Orozco is good but he's primarily a central defender where the US pool is plenty deep."

USA deep at center-back?!

You are joking right?!

Posted by: arswift24 | August 17, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

@Ron16 - Nice observations. I agree with you, and it's not just the top clubs like Real Madrid. Good movement is often the difference between MLS clubs and Mexican clubs in CCL/Superliga matches.

If DCU can't get anything going against Toronto, how do you think we'll fare in Honduras?

Posted by: DCUMD | August 17, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Remember a few weeks ago when DCU had two terrible handballs in the box on crosses (Burch, Wallace) and everyone here was screeching about how their U-12s wouldn't dream of such boneheaded play?

Well, I happened to catch some of the Newcastle - Reading game on ESPN360 the other night and guess what -- happens in England too. A Reading defender got all twisted around and lost the ball on a cross to the back post. His arm was up in the air and the ball whacked right into it -- penalty.

Of course, that's Coca-Cola level (and maybe that's why Reading couldn't stay up), but still. I'm so sick of people trotting out the hyperbole of "my U12s wouldn't..." or "my girl U8s know better than..." to express their disgust with some poor DCU/USMNT play.

Posted by: edgeonyou | August 17, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Goff, you should start covering Jermain Jones in this section. (by the way, Jones did not dress for Schalke '04; he's injured)

Posted by: jsm91 | August 17, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

So as the masses watch more and more of MLS, they are coming to the conclusion of what everyone already knows about the deficiencies of the American player/coach.

This cannot be resolved overnight but can be remedied with a good foreign coach or players. So in our specific examples, we have someone like BB or Soehn who has never played at international level "coaching" players who've far surpassed abilities of the coaches themselves.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | August 17, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

"Orozco is good but he's primarily a central defender where the US pool is plenty deep."

USA deep at center-back?!

You are joking right?!

Posted by: arswift24 | August 17, 2009 9:17 AM

No. I'm serious.

Everything is relative but the US if far deeper at some positions like d-mid and central defense than others.

Onyewu, Bocanegra, Demerit, Spector, Conrad, Chad Marshall, and Clarence Goodson are all more likely to start ahead of Michael Orozco in central defense for the US Men right now.

And other defenders like Parkhurst, Califf, Gibbs, Boswell, and the MLS Defender of Any Given Week could be even with him.

Maybe even an Ihemelu (not a Dr Seuss character).

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | August 17, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Ihemulu? Good idea. He could break the other team's players' legs....

Posted by: fischy | August 17, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm reading the Wuhl book about Beckham and Beckham is quoted as saying that many of his teammates were in need of fundimental skills lessons, movement with and off the ball, when and where to pass it. He could easily have been describing United's horrible display against what should be a near guarantee of 3 points against Toronto. De-Ro? Please, decidedly a second rate player made to look useful by an amateurish display by United.

Posted by: gooner71 | August 17, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Timmy Howard only had a chance to stop one of the 6 goals that flew by him. Any one else get the impression that Lescott was sending a single-fingered message to Moyes? If Lescott had emerged after the game from their dressing room sporting the kind of injury that Becks sustained from one of SAF's tantrums, who really would have blamed David Moyes? Or Timmy if he'd given him a slap? That was a display from Joleon that should tell Don Fabio everything he needs to know about that player's character when things aren't going his way.

Posted by: gooner71 | August 17, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

@DCUMD: Thanks for the feedback. What is so frustrating is MLS teams are *capable* of playing a more dynamic, moving, flowing game. They just usually don't do it. DC United in the early years did, and it was some lovely football to watch.

Sadly, most MLS games are just unwatchably boring mainly because of teams' static, stop-motion style play. I'm sick of it.

Posted by: Ron16 | August 17, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@Ron16: In the early years, we had 5 international level players: Harkes, Sanneh, Agoos, and Etcheverry and Moreno. This is a major difference with today whereas only Quaranta is a fringe national team player. So the tactical level (off the ball movement, technical ability, etc) is going to be different when you go from 5 to .5 (Q is not full-time national team player).

Posted by: Charisma_Man | August 17, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Davies is actually the best thing since sliced bread.

Posted by: IamAM | August 17, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

@Charisma_Man: I certainly appreciate your point and I fondly remember those days. But does it really take an international-caliber player to *MOVE* once in a while? As we saw in the friendlies MLS teams seem to be able to move on and off the ball if they want to. They just usually don't, especially when it is an all-MLS game. I almost wonder if the stop-motion style of play in MLS isn't at least in part a product of the small roster sizes and long season.

Posted by: Ron16 | August 17, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Um Jozy not in the 18? Any news there?

Posted by: Conservativemindsareinshackles | August 18, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

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