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Matchnight: United-Marathon

DCU LINEUP: Wicks; Habarugira, Janicki, James, John; McTavish, Olsen, Jacobson, Allen; Moreno, Emilio. Subs: Kocic, Burch, DiRaimondo, Simms, Wallace, Gomez, Quaranta.

Yes, four in the back. Yes, newcomers Habarugira, James and Allen in the lineup.

Interesting, indeed.

Kickoff: 10 p.m. ET.

TV: Fox Soccer Channel.

Your comments are welcome.

By Steve Goff  |  August 18, 2009; 9:08 PM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF Champions League , D.C. United  
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Comments

Really Soehn? Szetela is that out of shape he could not even make the 18. That is a bunch of BS. I can't wait until he gets fired. I guess this DCU's version of the empty bucket 4-4-2. What a shame!

Posted by: no_recess | August 18, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Well that back line better gel quick because with that midfield they're going to get plenty of work.

Where's Szetela? I got the impression he sat out last weekend to play this game. Now he's not even on the bench.

Posted by: benonthehill | August 18, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

would be great to have szetela in there

Posted by: MK27 | August 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

columbus up 1-0 on the islanders

Posted by: MK27 | August 18, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

So weird it just might work? Let's get it on!
Vamos United!
I hope this isn't a sign that Szetela isn't doing well already. That is all. Off to the neighbor's place to listen to him snore while I Bristle...;-)

Posted by: DadRyan | August 18, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Take the big view people. MLS playoffs are in danger and is the priority (other than the Open Cup final). These games are for blooding the new comers and if we keep it close or get ahead, we have some quality subs on the bench.

Truthfully, I wish Firpo were here instead of DC United.

Posted by: RetiredShark | August 18, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Where's Jacovic?

Posted by: Juan-John | August 18, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

So who do we have at forward against LA on Saturday? If Party Boy is hurt that leaves us very little option.

Posted by: evanskr521 | August 18, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Vamos United!

Posted by: redskinsux | August 18, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Señor Goff,

What is the word on Szetela?

Posted by: Barracudas | August 18, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Again I am following the game from my phone. I'd love to see some good comments on how the guys are doing. GO UNITED!!

Posted by: evanskr521 | August 18, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

my namesake just scored #2 for the crew

Posted by: MK27 | August 18, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

So... counting on scoring points at home. Makes as much sense as any other strategy at this point. I don't think any coach in the league envies Tommy Soehn's predicament.

Posted by: TheAMT | August 18, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

at least we're not the red bulls (that works every season)

Posted by: MK27 | August 18, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. Let the "fire Soehn" dreggs try to pull off what he is expected to do with what he has to work with, in the time frame he has to do it.

Posted by: RetiredShark | August 18, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

John is the only man who makes me like Burch. I thought Habarugira was more of a left sided player, maybe that was just spin.

As for Szetela not being in the lineup, or on the bench, the man has lost his cotton picking mind. It's okay, Soehn. Early retirement isn't so bad. So far, Szetela has been solid, has made decent passes. He's had a positive impact in a run where few can say the same.

Surely we are not going to see another season of this guy? Are we that similar to the US soccer federation?

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Common naysayers. We're here so lets make the best of it. VAMOS UNITED!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 18, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Let me clarify that. I think we should implement Szetela into the starting lineup, bring in Olsen for his warrior mentality.

Soehn has reached the limits of his abilities.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Man, that ref has a really quick whistle. Ooof, almost an own goal by James. Ick.

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Nice shot! Was that Benny?

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to ask, any live feeds? I ran out of ideas. Thanks

Posted by: evanskr521 | August 18, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

has Wicks always had that tattoo, or is that henna or something....?

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

http://www.justin.tv/jarm21
i am college and no tv, i need justin!

Posted by: ssdesv | August 18, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

don't really know why anyone would put henna on their neck, so I'm hoping it's a new tattoo

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

And is he showing his support for the the newcomer? Habarugira is wearing #23...and the tatt (or whatever it is) looks like it is 23.

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

BTW, he's looked reasonably solid so far (Habarugira, that is).

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I have a sneaking suspicion Goffinho is working on something concerning Szetela but just doesn't have all the facts yet. Trade for a draft pick maybe to open up a roster slot?

Posted by: benonthehill | August 18, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks ssdevs. When I looked up the site I put an underscore not a period.

Posted by: evanskr521 | August 18, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

That is a disgrace.

Posted by: RedDevil1 | August 18, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

swing and a miss - 1-0

Posted by: MK27 | August 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

time to send him back to the minor leagues

Posted by: Dancy1 | August 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Dang. Janicki whiffs again, Walter Martinez scores. Looks like it's time to send Janicki back to the minors.

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Seriously? Janicki strikes again

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I think I saw a goal against New Zealand in the Confed cup that was that bad.

And this was our main central backup!!!

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

ugh, nice whiff Janicki.

it appears that the humidity in Honduras is somewhere near 174%. i'm sweating just looking at this game.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | August 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. Can't blame Soehn for that. Janicki misses an easy clearance ... results in a tap-in goal for Marathon.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

janicki should never play again

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

janicki, john, mctavish are an embarrassment to a usl 2 team.

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

on the plus side, Habarugira has looked pretty good. and he moves forward well, throwing a nice cross in there.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | August 18, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Me = fan of Habarugira.

Me ≠ fan of Janicki

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

dc united is a complete joke putting those sorry players on the field. im embarrassed to be a life long supporter. janicki has done this three starts in a row.

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

"And this was our main central backup!!!"

As of last winter, that was DCU's starting sweeper. Count your blessings.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | August 18, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Did I see that correctly? Marathon player steps on McT's ankle, falls down ... and McT gets a yellow?

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Why on earth do we have 5 more matches of this. Just stop it CONCOCAF. No need for a group staged "champions" league when there's no threat of a breakaway super league (which is the only reason for a UEFA Champions League). This should be a proper knockout tournament, with one - MAYBE - two clubs per country.

This can't be making money with a small potatoes tv contract and stupid travel. By trying to jump into doing things European style, they're devaluing what should be a good competition.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 18, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or does Jaime not want to pass to Allen?

I've counted at least twice he was open for a run, Jaime dribbled it back instead.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

All the grumbling is pretty warranted. Ugly from Janicki and Emilio looks like he's just out there to collect a paycheck rather than work for the team.

In an attempt for some positive, I think this is one of the stronger performances I've seen from Jacobson and I believe we can still get a result here.

Posted by: cjholden15 | August 18, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Sullivan doesn't even come close when trying to pronounce Habarugira's name!

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Right on, CJ. Jacobson looking good.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

o, if Habarugira is normally a left sided defender and he's playing this well on the right, I'm liking the prospect of a starting 4-4-2 like this...
Wicks
Namoff-Jakovic-Burch(James?)-Haba
Quaranta-Simms-Szetela-Fred/Wallace
Gomez-Pontius

I'd have Gomez and Pontius up top because of the sheer ineffectiveness of Emilio as of late, and Gomez as a withdrawn striker is still more mobile than Moreno. That could be switched up as soon as either of the normal starters wake up. Burch has looked surprisingly solid as a central defender, so as of now James would be the reserve. Much of this rests on whatever is going on with Szetela. The kid has potential to be a box to box player. Tino and Pontius can switch spots at will, with Tino bringing better passing up top, and Party Boy the longer range shots.

Might be just another pipe dream, but a 4-4-2 with Haba at left back would be interesting...and I hope Szetela doesn't get the boot.

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse


Agreed. Let the "fire Soehn" dreggs try to pull off what he is expected to do with what he has to work with, in the time frame he has to do it.

Posted by: RetiredShark | August 18, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Being that I'm a dreggy (by the way it's dregs not dreggs) I'd like to know how much time a coach needs to work with what they've assembled, say 2/3 of a season or 3 years....

Posted by: SoehntheExit | August 18, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Agree with the positive comments about Jacobson. I've said it before and I will say it again--he thrives in a 4-4-2. Ely Allen is also playing well. John, Janicki and Emilio: Vaya Con Dios with your next endeavor!

Posted by: dcarmy | August 18, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Jacobson has looked all right, but he's also been a fouling machine. Ditto for Allen, John and James. Jacobson was lucky not to be called for a penalty. His hots, as always, are powerful. It'll really be something if one of them finds the back of the net, some day.

Habarugira (or Rutabaga, or whatever it is Sullivan keeps calling him) has singular knack for sending his crosses right to the goalkeeper. He hasn't even had to move for the any of them, yet.

It'll be a miracle if this lineup scores, but then again, look what happened for Marathon. Didn't Janicki have a real howler in last year's CCL play, too?

Actually, considering that half of this lineup are complete strangers, they're not doing that badly.

Posted by: fischy | August 18, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

This game is utterly painful to watch. Moreno is walking up and down the field and Janicki's blunder was inexcusable. Its obvious that DCU is just going through the motions and are merely trying to make it through the game without any injuries or being embarrassed. The format of this tournament needs to change to a single elimination or two game series. I don't think I can watch another five games with DCU playing so uninspired. On a positive note, its good to see the scrubs playing and Soehn saving some starters for games that really matter: league play!

Posted by: erichfeige | August 18, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Who should be the second half subs?

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Actually, considering that half of this lineup are complete strangers, they're not doing that badly.

Posted by: fischy | August 18, 2009 11:00 PM

Fischy FTW....

Like the new guy at RB, but we are solid at RB, aren't we?

Jacobson has a great shot from distance, but will be lucky to finish the game anywhere south of MLS' borders.

MF passes to forwards has been dreadful. Think we need to score from a free kick.

Posted by: JkR- | August 18, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we can draw conclusions about Szetela not being in shape or being in the doghouse. The stupid TV guys have been going on about how introducing Gomez in the second half might change things. But, Goff says he's not even on the game-day roster. Nor is Jacovic. I assume that Szetela's absence is more of saving players for the Galaxy game on Saturday -- Soehn refusing to set priorities, thinking he can pretend to compete in for playoffs and Open Cup as well as CCL.

I have work travel I have to do on the 24th and and 30th. Good thing I am not going to have to decide whether to buy tickets to come see those games against Marathon and Jabloteh.

I have been working to publicize the Open Cup game. I sure hope I am not trying to bring in newbies to watch a B team.

Posted by: fentysupporter | August 18, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

@UnitedDemon - If Szetela didn't even make the trip, something is up. Maybe, he's sick -- or a deal is in the works. This isn't a decision by Soehn that he just doesn't want him there.

Posted by: fischy | August 18, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

United has more guys with last names that could be first names than I have ever seen before: Avery JOHN, Julius JAMES, Anthony PETERs, Andrew JACOB-son, David HABARUGIRA (which is Barundi for Dad-Ryan) and Greg JENaNIKI who has 2 first names in one 2 in one last name. We should sub Rodney WALLACE. Toobad Fred is suspended.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 18, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

GOAL!!! But, it looks like Emilio is bleeding badly!!

Posted by: combedge | August 18, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

GOAL!! DC UNITED!!

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

yow. that's a lotta blood!

Posted by: fedssocr | August 18, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Emilio scores on a header off a corner ... and pays the price as he was head-butted in the forehead, it appears.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

So much for getting through without any injuries...

Nice to see DCU scoring off a corner. 2nd time this year.

Posted by: fischy | August 18, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 18, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Ouch. What a bad time for Emilio to go down....we made a sub at half time, the sub and Emilio connect and he's out!

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Why is Habarugira holding his head? His head was never touched.

Posted by: fischy | August 18, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

treat him like a girl - staple his head and send him back.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 18, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

welp. all that salty talk and emilio bleeds from the head to score for us.

can we make it through without another defensive leak?

Posted by: cjholden15 | August 18, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Bad time to fake an injury too - only 10 guys on the field David.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | August 18, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I always check atdhe.net first

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I like seeing jacobson pull the trigger quickly, that was nice.

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Christian Miles is a *#$%&^$ idiot.

Posted by: jpeace121 | August 18, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

jacobson, emilio good

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

mctavished = used time and time again

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

McT!

Wallace and Tino with a decent set up for that one

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Just remembered the game...and WOW! What a cross and diving header! But saved.

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

We need more of that back post running, that was brilliant

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm... yellow to McT for a challenge by Habarugira

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Benny is really pissing guys off

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Especially when he completely dives. But I still love him.

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Simms on...

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

That is a GIANT corner flag

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Emilio down again. Uh-oh.

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Marathon is owning the ball right now...

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Crap. He looks like he's holding his hammy.

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Grabbing his hammy. Blame the turf for that one. He left a huge divot.

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

This ref just loves to make silly, whimsical calls.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Emilio is ok

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

well that sucks

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Tassie beat me to it.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I blame the Miles and Sullivan for talking about going back to RFK with 1 point.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 18, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

goal marathon...they had been pressing...

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I know it's never good to be losing, but I think it's way worse to be losing to see Soehn on the bench, sweating, scared, and working on an ulcer.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

You've got to be kidding me. Why was Janicki outside of that player? Even my kids know that you need to be goal side!

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

sloppy marking

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Janicki in the absolute worst defensive position. Behind his man AND to the outside. Simply beyond abysmal.

Posted by: benonthehill | August 18, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Where has that been since the McT diving header?!?!?

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

How is it possible that one player is single-handedly losing this game for us???

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

You have got to be kidding me.

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Pile on Janicki. So awful.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow. That stadium doesn't even look full enough for the ref to be scared to not give DC a PK for a dive, and then give them that for an even worse one. Just terrible

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow that's a hat trick for Janicki

Posted by: benonthehill | August 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

why is janicki still on the team?
why was janicki not one of the three subs?

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

I never want to see Janicki in a DC United uniform ever again.

Posted by: RedDevil1 | August 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

JOSH F'N WICKS

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I missed scrubs for this... totally wasn't worth it.

Posted by: OrangeGirl1 | August 18, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

That was such a dive. There was no contact.

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Or not.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 18, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Janicki, we regret to inform you that you are a disgraceful player in lieu of an atrocious performance. With two new defenders, you ARE the weakest of the weakest links...

OH MY GOD, Simms. Someone hit the man.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 18, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

This is a joke.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

WHAT?>A?T?A?T?A?TA?TA? They called Wicks for encroachment?

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Not sure whats worse..the defense of the refs....Totally crapola once again.

Posted by: SoehntheExit | August 18, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

simms is an idiot

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, it was Simms? I didn't even notice (sound muted, too). Was it bad?

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

What bad luck with have. The Firpo gets a break on its penalty kick down in El Salvador, while Wicks can't catch a break at San Pedro Sula, where the ref calls a retake for a penalty that Wicks had stopped because of encroachment by Simms.

3-1 Marathon

Posted by: billindmd | August 18, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Explain to me why neither of the Marathon players were yellow-carded after their goals due to their celebrations.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so I'm thinking they couldn't possibly just make all these mistakes on accident, could they? Really? I mean, if they bomb in these games, do they still have to play all 6?

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 18, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Janicki is absolutely worthless. This dude single handedly ruined all of the team's work tonight. He is a one man wrecking crew, who I sincerely hope disappears from our books as soon as they return to the states. He has done nothing this year. NOTHING!!

Posted by: Kosh2 | August 18, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see a replay of the encroachment.

Posted by: bigbadbri | August 18, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

So this will not be Soehn's fault too?

Posted by: alan19 | August 18, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame Janicki blame the man who put him there.....

Posted by: SoehntheExit | August 18, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

cerealman, really? One guy was half-naked and in the stands.

Posted by: Reignking | August 18, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Janicki's gotta go.

Posted by: billindmd | August 18, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

janicki was the worst
and soehn for leaving him on to complete the worst game i have seen a single player play ever.

Posted by: castroviejo | August 18, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow that's a hat trick for Janicki
Posted by: benonthehill
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Brilliant

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 18, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I just love CONCACAF refs

Posted by: Konoha7 | August 18, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Simms encroached but he didn't do anything that doesn't happen on 90% of PKs taken in professional soccer. Still, it's just asinine to encroach on the .1% chance you actually clear a ball after a miss and don't get called.

Posted by: benonthehill | August 18, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

It looked to me like Simms was pushed, but I could be wrong. Wicks has to be pissed about that one.

Janicki peaked in his first...3? games for DCU last season. He's dead weight.

Posted by: TassieTiger | August 18, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

I thought tonight we were gonna change our fortunes in Latin America. This sucks.

Posted by: billindmd | August 18, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Seriously! First Palacios does a strip tease. And didn't Berrios stick the ball under his shirt like a pregnant woman after his PK goal?

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

But I'm not blaming the ref for the outcome. Janicki screwed us.

And Obelar made several key stops for Marathon.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Arrgh, too bad. 10 minutes away from a point, 4 bonehead plays away from three points. They looked quite good in stretches. Definitely not Soehn's fault. They looked surprisingly well-prepared to me. Just didn't execute.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | August 18, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what was a Gordie Howe hat trick? A goal, an assist and a fight?

If Janicki just puts that first one in himself instead of whiffing, he gets one named after him—an OG, a missed mark and a PK.

Posted by: benonthehill | August 18, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Spot on about Soehn. Habarugira does his job and covers for the worse than useless Janicki all night and what does he get for his troubles? He get's subbed out. I thought the kid can play centrally?

Double F Janicki and triple F Soehn with a go F yourself on top!

Posted by: Kosh2 | August 18, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Janicki--ouch! But worst performance in a DCU uniform? Hardly...even though it's been over a decade since it happened, my eyes still burn from seeing George Gelnovatch on the field. The horror, the horror.

What a shame. It seems like a hodge-podge team with some new players and no continuity would battle through a rough start to earn a point. Ugh.

Posted by: JoeW1 | August 19, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Explain to me why neither of the Marathon players were yellow-carded after their goals due to their celebrations.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:52 PM |
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Indeed. Both of them should have been yellow cards. Frankly, I was wondering why DCU wasn't allowed to re-start the ball while the guy was dancing along the track.

The shirt off is supposed to be an automatic yellow, but it seems to depend on who you are. I don't think Drogba got the yellow on Saturday. On the other hand, in the Fiorentina game, the goal-scorer was ejected with his second yellow of the game. If you're a Honduran player scoring in Honduras against an American team, you're allowed to dance around with your shirt off, or to slap the ball out of hte goalie's hands and then run around with it under your shirt. That's not bad sportsmanship. It's just a friendly "Suck on this, Yanquis!"

As for the Simms' incident -- the kick-taker stopped in his run-up. It may have been that this simply caused Simms to fall into the box, but I thought he had a little help from a Marathon player.

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Hey Godfather, how about none of the losses are Soehn's fault? I am tired of hearing that crap. Does he have the only job that is not based on results? Fire him right away, while we still can salvage the season..."We only win trophies"...Remember? Well the way things are going, that statement is laughable...

Posted by: alan19 | August 19, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Janicki 3, DC United 1

Posted by: fentysupporter | August 19, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

And Obelar made several key stops for Marathon.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 18, 2009 11:57 PM |
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Actually, they weren't that hard. McTavish's header, and then the shot McT sent to the far post -- they were good plays, but not finished with a scorer's touch. The balls were right at a height where Obelar could save them confidently.

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

WOW Janicki could have just replaced burch in my worst defenders ever list.


burch equal to or less then a crappy defender.

janicki less then a crappy defender.

Good Night! fire the coach and hire a coach outside MLS please.

Posted by: Ivanovich84 | August 19, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Actually, it's just "We win trophies". No "only" in there.

This CCL will be just like year. Soehn will start as many bench players as he can...and they pretty much all stink. They lack the quality to score, and they can't defend.

Want to know where this season went wrong? When that old Brazilian guy, Roger, decided to go home 2 days after signing. We might have a decent central defense with him and Jakovic. That could have been a terrific signing. He probably took one look at our practices and thought better of coming here to play.

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

**GOFF READ THIS**

If Janicki receives ANYTHING higher than a "2", I will be disgusted and disappointed with your rating system.

Posted by: redskinsux | August 19, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

HAHA front office look at what you created...
A FAILURE of a team...

FIRE PAYNE!

ANTI-FRONT OFFICE!

as a dc fan, a little bit inside of me dies every time another team scores...

=(

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 19, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

A 2? I'm pretty sure he earned the first 1 in the history of ratings...

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

A 2 would be overly generous.

Posted by: delantero | August 19, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

A little bit of me dies every time I read one of WashDips over-the-top negative posts. Does he ever have anything positive, or even reasonable to add?

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Wicks is just bad. He should at least pretend to try and be block something . . especially their game winning 2nd goal. I mean, dive and make it look good. Don't just watch it . . he's just terrible at anything that's not in the air or that needs quick reflexes or hands, terrible!

Posted by: delantero | August 19, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I agree, but giving even giving a 2 is a big step for Goff.

Posted by: redskinsux | August 19, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

I thought there were some definite positives tonight. DCU looked very well prepared. They stood up very well for most of the game despite playing essentially a second unit. Jacobsen looked very good as did Quaranta and Emilio showed some heart.

Janicki has got to play in short spurts to build some confidence. He is just a lost puppy right now.

Still very poor in the offensive third. Jaime is invisible right now. He needs to sit for a game or two.

I've seen this so many times before in sports but right now this team just knows how to lose. They are remarkable at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Janicki was the goat tonight but there seems to be a new one every match. Each game lately you can feel the apprehension within this unit during the 2nd half of play. If there not careful, we win trophies is going to replaced by we choke like dogs.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 19, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow...I am still fuming from this game! I will rejoin this later when I have calmed down.

Posted by: redskinsux | August 19, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

fischy, Roger's decision could have been made based on watching a practice or speaking with the coach...we'll never know. However, I am inclined to believe that the coach had something (if not most) to do with it. When I say F Soehn, Fjust doesn't stand for "fire".

Posted by: Kosh2 | August 19, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

i dont think anything was Wicks's fault tonight there delantro. pretty sure the team let him down on all three goals. and by the team, i mean greg janicki. I really began to feel bad for janicki as the game went on. Add tonight to his howler agaisnt Firpo, and he really has no business in anymore CCL games. probably MLS either.

Posted by: VTUnited | August 19, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

@delantero -- I was wondering abut WIcks' health, until he made that diving stop on the PK. He made some nice saves against Madrid, but other than that, he seems to have gone into a statue routine since about halfway through the PKs at Firpo. Even the balls that missed today -- the the one that sailed just wide of the post, and the one that went just over the crossbar shortly after -- Wicks may have been sure they were off the mark, but he played them awfully casually. On the wide one, most keepers would have made the effort at diving to cover the post. And on the one that skipped just over, most keepers would have touched it over to be safe. He plays with, shall we say, a modicum of effort. He does have trouble with balls that are hit low just to his side -- especially his left side. Of course, as big as he is, perhaps that's to be expected.

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

fischy-thanks for reading!

over the top negative, naw. There have been many posts more negative then mine. Ease up on the sensitivity. Cause if you think that is over the top negative...then my friend you need to avoid some other forums tonight. Because every non-MLS fan is having a field day while adding the US losses.


Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 19, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Although I essentially agree with the statue comments concerning Wicks, I find it very harsh to put the blame on him for any of the goals. As sorry as I feel for Janicki this evening, all three goals were primarily his fault.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 19, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Because every non-MLS fan is having a field day while adding the US losses.
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By "US losses", I assume you mean tonight's DCU game. It's the only US loss tonight, no? Or, are you throwing in the Red Bulls from a couple of weeks ago...?

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

I wasn't faulting Wicks for any of the goals. He played a "stand-up" game....literally...but a good game. Any time a goalie stops a PK, he deserves serious plaudits. This loss is almost entirely on Janicki. I feel for him, but he is so not up for this level of competition. Even as a reserve. If this Smarte can play a little, sign him and let Janicki go.

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

their throwing everything into one cauldron and boiling it. NYRB, USNT, DC's loss tonight and last years losses to Marathon and the crashing out of the CCL..

I mean the only upside for MLS is the Crews win over PR. Which most have not recognize just yet since scores are still being updated.


Other than that these MLS losses are just fueling that hatred towards US soccer.
I watched the match through JustinTV and man it really sucks being one of three supporters of US soccer in a chat room of 100+.

So all that just fuels my dislike of the Front Office. Just to clear up anything I have strong passion for DC but that front office needs to go. We are in this situation because of them.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 19, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't faulting Wicks on 1 or 3 either, but come on, he looks like the chubby grade school kid that was forced to play goalie. He just keeps watching the balls roll by . .

"Wicks may have been sure they were off the mark, but he played them awfully casually."

IMO their 2nd goal was partially Wicks, too. He came out casually and never even hit the turf to stop the shot. Instead, he lays he fat paw somewhere in the vicinity and watches. Pathetic.

Posted by: delantero | August 19, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

fischy:

This wasn't just like last year. Instead of attempting to grimly hold on while fielding 3 or 4 injured players because they're just less injured than the others, we fielded 11 fairly healthy players and actually can come away feeling unlucky. It's safe to say we should have gotten a draw tonight, only to have it undone by Janicki's 2 huge mistakes (the penalty looked to me like a clear and blatant dive, so I have a hard time piling the blame on him there). Obelar made some respectable saves (best one was probably tipping Jacobson's shot over the bar in the first half).

Considering the team we sent out, (compared to Marathon sending out their first choice players at every position) the fact that the game was even is a positive. Some players really had good nights; Jacobson and Olsen stood out, as did Quaranta off the bench. Habarugira, if he can sharpen up his crosses, looks like a real find.

On the other hand, Janicki's play was horrendous. The first goal is obviously a disaster, though let's be honest: that's a freak error. It would be a freak error for a u12 team. Send that cross in 1000 times, and Janicki clears it on 999 occasions. I'm not trying to defend him; just parsing the difference between freakish misfortune (the whiffed block/clearance) and actual poor play (his attempt at "marking" on the 2nd goal). That's where his rating really should have fell. There's no reason for Palacios to be that open on a flick on of a long ball out of the back; Janicki was way too far ahead of the rest of our defenders for no apparent reason.

The decision by the ref to give a penalty was upsetting enough (yellow for diving to Brown was the correct action), but to order a retake after the save? It's even more galling when you see what looks like Simms being pushed into the box, AND a Marathon player being in as well. Calls like that can turn games into brawls, especially in the barrel of gunpowder that is CONCACAF. It didn't turn the game, but if we beat Marathon at RFK there's a chance we end up needing to go to a tiebreaker to advance (since it seems within the realm of possibility that both teams beat San Juan Jabloteh home and away, and Toluca is definitely capable of beating both clubs twice).

Ratings to follow.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | August 19, 2009 12:41 AM | Report abuse

What sucks even more is sitting in a internet chat room when you could be paying attention to a game.

Posted by: fischy | August 19, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

In all honesty that was the worst performance by a professional soccer player that I have ever seen. EVER.

Here are the mistakes leading to our loss:

1. Soehn playing Janicki
2. Janicki playing like an MSI U-12 player.
3. Soehn not subbing Janicki out right away after the first goal. I know it's a departure from the game plan, but as you can see this is what a coach needs to do after a play like that.
4. Janicki's bad positioning on goal 2.
5. Janicki's stupid tackle in the box for goal 3.

With the exception of Janicki we played great! We looked very poised with possession and didnt make stupid turnovers like we did against Toronto. The new guys (except Janicki) looked very promising overall. Olsen played with smarts and Quaranta made two amazing crosses. Even Emilio played well. Overall, I'm happy and give Soehn a little credit for at least changing to the 4-4-2 to let our talent show.

Goff, Janicki earned a "2" at best and if you give any higher I'd contend that you were not watching the game at all.

Posted by: BarraPuta | August 19, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

chat room is right next to the window. I close it but check on the feed to see what people are saying.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 19, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

BarraPuta,

Agreed with your post.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 19, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

A MSI U-12 player? You're going to here about that as you just insulted quite a few U-12 players. :) Poor Janicki. It is going to be brutal for him for awhile.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 19, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Dips, who gives a rats rear about soccer haters have to say about the sport or the league? I know I don't.

While the ratings are nice for internet chatter, I could give another rat's rear if Goff or anyone gives Janicki a 10 - does not change the fact that the dude is beyond horrible. There's a dip in form and there's just flat inept. I say Janicki falls somewhere in between - like he's simply playing outside of his level. Sometimes there is a very good reason why a guy is playing in USL-2.

CONCACAF refs? Please. Do not get me started with that laughable bunch of inept rat ba*tard*. Janicki aside, I say the rf did a good job kakaing all over that game tonight. But what else is new when it comes to that bunch.

Soehn? Still don't like him, but to be fair my only real beef with him tonight is keeping Janicki on and taking Habarugira off.

Good night all. To be continued tomorrow...when rage subsides and sanity returns...

Posted by: Kosh2 | August 19, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Wicks - 5
Left for dead on the 2 legit goals.

Habarugira - 5.5
We learned that he has some speed, can tackle, and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. His crossing needs a lot of work, but he puts himself into great crossing positions. If this is what he can do with only his trial and some pregame introductions today, I like what I see when I imagine his future.

Janicki - 2
Gave the game away. What does one need to do to get a 1? I remember my old high school assistant telling me he once scored 2 own goals and got sent off for retaliation in one game. This was close to that; a truly disastrous performance that undid what was an otherwise respectable outing for DCU.

James - 5.5
Played a part in the goal and didn't look too bad considering his newness. The problems happened on either side of him.

John - 4
Marathon picked on him and Allen via Scott and Sabillon for most of the game. His inability to pass to anyone was also a problem. I am reminded of Scott Vermillion.

McTavish - 5
Anonymous first half, decent 2nd half as far as making some tackles goes. Diving header nearly worked.

Olsen - 6
He and Jacobson controlled the midfield when Marathon wasn't busy launching the ball over it. Probably his best performance in a month.

Jacobson - 6.5
One bad giveaway aside, I thought Jacobson was our best player. Forced Obelar's best save with a typical cannon blast.

Allen - 4.5
Didn't get the praise here or from Sullivan. Made some truly abysmal passes, and looked every bit like a player who has barely practiced with the team.

Moreno - 5.5
Helped dictate play after the Marathon goal. We probably needed one more skillful player on to give him the space needed.

Emilio - 5.5
Anonymous 1st half, anonymous after the goal, but credit him for putting his body on the line to get a goal. That's what we need from him: scoring no matter what.

Quaranta - 6
Caused problems and got into good positions. We needed to find him more, because he was holding up his end of the bargain.

Wallace - 5
Better than Allen, but needed to take Sabillon 1v1 (Sabillon lunges into tackles and gives away freekicks/cards).

Simms - NR
Goals not really on him; those mad about encroachment should be more upset that there was ever a PK to begin with.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | August 19, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Janicki...
2 for effort? lol
1 for great and the other for hustle...

1+1=2...great hustle..

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 19, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Lame.
Who you going to blame Tommy? the Refs? What a fudging joke. \
When local reporters REALLY start pulling coache's card's it's on.
Steve, please do me a favor and let the front office know that I'm turning in my notice of NO CONFIDENCE.
Sincerely PapiRyisco

Posted by: DadRyan | August 19, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

A MSI U-12 player? You're going to here about that as you just insulted quite a few U-12 players. :) Poor Janicki. It is going to be brutal for him for awhile.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 19, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

The gambler in me says Janicki had to have thrown that game. No way could one player be that blatantly responsible for three goals. Hopefully he paid off all his gambling debt with this one game and his bookie will let him be for the rest of the year.

Posted by: Southeasterner | August 19, 2009 1:09 AM | Report abuse

"coache's"

Posted by: DadRyan | August 19, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

@Southeasterner: lol. actually i'm hoping that after we cut him (please please please cut him) that another MLS in some freak lapse of judgement picks him up so we can score 3.

@Chest_Rockwell: I think our no-namers overall deserved higher scores than you gave them. Just look at how well we controlled the tempo and created chances against a solid opponent. Our hustle was great and we won most of the 50/50's. Our back line was ok (except you-know-who), midfield was very solid. I'd also give Emilio a 6 for the goal and heart he showed.

Posted by: BarraPuta | August 19, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Janicki - full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order.

Posted by: soccerman | August 19, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

We dominate possession but can't finish
We give up bad goals
We lose....uhhhhh...same thing as all the other losses and ties.

oh...and wicks is still crap. Terrible distribution, concrete feet, has no understanding of the game and frequently looks off balance while weak shots dribble by....then he makes sure to yell at the defenders after every goal.

AHHHHHHH....this team is killing me!!!

PS: is is just me or did Simms get shoved a bit into the box....

Posted by: matthewjfyoungs | August 19, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: redskinsux | August 19, 2009 1:36 AM | Report abuse

@Cerealman

Yes you can blame Soehn for Janicki's errors because he keeps putting him in the starting 11 for non-MLS matches. Now do you understand the logic.

Posted by: no_recess | August 19, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

@Chest_Rockwell

You are completely wrong about Janicki and him clearing an easy ball more than 90% of the time. He has whiffed at other easy clearances throughout the season. He does not have the technical ability to play in MLS period. I would have started McTavish in central defense over him. I look back on the 2007 season and that is where McTavish played for most of the season.

Posted by: no_recess | August 19, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

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