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Poll: USA-Mexico

Late-night greetings from Mexico City.

Please vote:

By Steve Goff  |  August 11, 2009; 12:43 AM ET
Categories:  Mexico , Poll , U.S. men's national team  
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Still little iffy about the result but hoping for a US win.

EL AZTECAZO, I wanna hear a pin drop in that stadium...

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 11, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Just a small town girl, livin in a lonely world

She took the midnight train goin anywhere

Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit

He took the midnight train goin anywhere

. . . in other words, "Don't Stop Believing"

Go USA!
We all cheer for the Red, White, and Blue, the Red, White, and Blue!!!

Posted by: delantero | August 11, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey Goff,

Try the "Oxigeno Bar" on 3 de Septiembre or was it 5 de Mayo? It's got great, pure oxygen. The nasal cannulas are clean and everything! :)

Posted by: delantero | August 11, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

We won't let a little thing like history get in the way of mindless optimism.

Posted by: bdwooton | August 11, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

"We won't let a little thing like history get in the way of mindless optimism. Posted by: bdwooton"

It makes us all Americans, after all!

Posted by: delantero | August 11, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Will Sam's army make the trip like the Ticos did in 2001...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNX7fajpgdM

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 11, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Optimism? Sure! Mindless optimsim? Maybe...

Posted by: soccerman | August 11, 2009 3:11 AM | Report abuse

3 - "2" Mexico wins

US Scores 2 red cards and Mexico scores 3 goals.

Posted by: Southeasterner | August 11, 2009 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Here's hoping for the best:
no training at altitude
team is still forming in FL
Bradley will manage the game
Rico Clark and Bradley may both be on the field, please no reds boys.

I hope for a win, will be happy with a tie and will not be upset with a loss...unless it is like the gold cup.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | August 11, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

I talked to a guy who played with a club in Argentina and had a competitive match at Azteca. He said he came into the locker room at half time and cleared his throat and all the phlegm that came out was this icky black stuff.

I think this team is competitive, has the right frame of mind, showed well in the later stages of the Gold Cup, has the mentality and tactics to counter against Mexico well.

But there are 3 factors working against us:
-Mexico's speed combined with the lack of speed of our defenders. We can handle that if we don't give up an early goal, read play well, and stay compact.
--The altitude. That means within 25 minutes, the Mexicans will be getting to the majority of 50-50 balls. It means that something they've always been vulnerable to (especially now with Pardo off the side and Marquez out) is high pressure and instead we'll drop back and give them space. It means we'll be a second slow on reaction. It means that the tricky give-and-go's that Jay DeMerit talked about, as the game goes on, we'll read them slower.
--The pollution. Combined with the altitude, it's a potent thing. It's not enough to say "I've played at Azteca." You need to be acclimated to the altitude and pollution. I have no doubt our team is seasoned enough to handle the fans. I don't think the heat/humidity will be bad--Miami was worse.

It's not about history or destiny or Mexico wanting it more. We have a history of losing there because for a while Mexico was a lot better than us combined with the huge double whammy of altitude and pollution. It's no secret that the USA team that actually got applause from the fans at Azteca and pulled off a draw while down a man and was actually in the game and winning balls throughout the entire freaking match spent two weeks training at altitude.

Real simple: if we took a team and trained for 2 weeks in Salt Lake City while there was an inversion or smog alert there, even if they were mostly MLS boys, I'd rate that team has having a better chance than this side.

Posted by: JoeW1 | August 11, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Here's a handy link I came across that tells you what channel to find mun2 in your area

http://www.holamun2.com/usavsmex

I wonder if there might be any interest in setting up a little Soccer Insider viewing party somewhere in DC for the match tomorrow???? I think I'm game if anyone else is up for it.

Posted by: DCUMD | August 11, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I thought everyone was coming over to my place?;-)

Posted by: DadRyan | August 11, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

We still have Confed on the mind, whereas they still have Shut-up-Sven on the mind. Gold Cup would help their confidence a little, but the Mexican "ardido", which Aguierre seems confident on continuing, is notorious now and can be exploited.

Is there any way Bob can set up enormous air purifiers next to the USA bench? Maybe bring oxygen tanks or something?

Posted by: Rosslyn45 | August 11, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I voted for US victory, mainly because I didn't see "moral victory" as an option.

Posted by: PabloChicago | August 11, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

In other news, Seattle has an open letter of their own:

http://www.seattlefutbol.com/DC-United/DCU_Won_Trophys/Return_to_Sender.php

Posted by: Section117 | August 11, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, I'm feeling it. I think we have a clear shot.

As long as Bob doesn't get in the way, we should be fine. By that, I mean, we need to try to get a goal in the first half, hold them, and then bury them again. One goal isn't enough, not in Azteca, and not with Vela as confident as he is right now. I know it is seemingly impossible, but I look at the roster, at how unstable, really, Mexico is this year, and I say, why not?

Let's do this.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 11, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

If FIFA is going to allow qualifying games at that altitude, they should increase the call-up period to 2 weeks to allow for acclimatization.

Posted by: OWNTF | August 11, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Somebody needs to talk with Seattle's mayor -- they're putting too much Prozac in the water supply there.

Speaking of Prozac... 41% expect an American victory? I thought I was the nut job on this blog?!

I'm hoping for a 0-0 tie and no injuries. That's not a moral victory -- that's a crucial away point. A red card or two against Mexican starters in the waning minutes would be a bonus, as their absence the next game could mean a bad result for Mexico (not sure who they play next).

Posted by: joedoc1 | August 11, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Goff, you probably know this, since this cannot be your first visit to DF, but get tacos al pastor, wherever you can. They are so fantastic.

Posted by: Reignking | August 11, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Re: Seattle's letter.

That's hilarious. I'm really starting to enjoy this rivalry. Has Seattle created webuytickets.com yet?

My favorite part of that letter is when they suggest that DCU might sell out RFK stadium for the Open Cup Final, but only because Seattle will be there. Surely Seattle can deliver 30,000 fans of their own to this match over two thousand miles away.

Posted by: DCUMD | August 11, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

We won't let a little thing like history get in the way of mindless optimism.
Posted by: bdwooton
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Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 11, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Marching band? We don't need no stinkin' marching band.

Actually the fact that Seattle responded at all can be diagnosed clinically as an inferiority complex.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 11, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Have I mentioned how much I hate Seattle's shirts?

Just checking

Posted by: Kev29 | August 11, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 11, 2009 9:56 AM |
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Germans?

Quiet, he's rolling.

Posted by: bs2004 | August 11, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"Trophys"?

Seattle are gooder at english

Posted by: Reignking | August 11, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Did someone say "Seattle"?!

"Hush now, don't you cry
Wipe away the teardrop from your eye
You're lying safe in bed
It was all a bad dream
Spinning in your head
Your mind tricked you to feel the pain
Of someone close to you leaving the game of life
So here it is, another chance
Wide awake you face the day
Your dream is over... or has it just begun?"

Posted by: joedoc1 | August 11, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Wow, lyrics I actually recognize. I guess Jet City Woman would be too obscure.

Posted by: Reignking | August 11, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

@ DCUMD (and the rest) - I'll be watching at Union Jack's in Bethesda. My mindless optimism and I will be there...you're welcome to join us.

Posted by: soccerman | August 11, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

In other news, Seattle has an open letter of their own:

http://www.seattlefutbol.com/DC-United/DCU_Won_Trophys/Return_to_Sender.php

Posted by: Section117 | August 11, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

We had New York as our rivals for a while, and some of us still have hard feelings against Chicago and LA. No telling what Philadelphia will bring, either. But this right here is pure "Let's get this straight right now, these two don't like each other" derby material. And I welcome it!

Posted by: Rosslyn45 | August 11, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

What about all of the European-based Mexican players? They won't be acclimated either, so I don't see how it always ends up hurting only the US players.

I know it has an effect on them, but this team is different, I can see us getting at least a tie out of this one.

Lucky Bar here we come...

Posted by: adamsunited | August 11, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe the percentage that are voting for a win. Wow. I put it at 72.5% Mexican win, 20% Draw, and 7.5% US win, and that's probably being generous to the US (although the betting sites are giving the US about a 25-30% chance of winning but that's probably to draw bets rather than an accurate reflection of their expectations). Only one team not named Mexico has won at Azteca this decade (and the streak may be in its history, i believe it is), and that was Costa Rica 8 years ago. To actually be more confident in a win, then in a loss is the penultimate example of homerism, and I say this as a huge U.S. fan, and I loathe the Mexican team.

Posted by: graywolfe81 | August 11, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I think there is some truth to one of the comments about red cards. There will definitely be a few of them. In a way (if its done hard but without malice), a hard tackle by Clark or Bradley (take a deep breath before you do it) might help the US. I remember the 2002 World Cup Quarterfinal, where the US totally outmuscled Mexico, and threw El Tri off their game. El Tri has a lot of players with big tempers, this could work...but somehow I think El Tri is also going to push the US off their game too. I see this game coming down to last 20 minutes, and the US playing strong, but the smog and altitude are just too much. But don't worry both the US and Mexico will get into the World Cup (Mexico has 3 more home games left in qualification, the US has 2). Sorry Honduras you made a good run, best of luck against Ecuador.

Posted by: jro1 | August 11, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I honestly want to see the US win this game but I think we lose 1 - 0 but dominate play..

Posted by: bobfairchild1 | August 11, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, we are playing at 7,400 feet in front of 103,000 screaming Mexicans. Bolivia beat Argentina 6-1. It's altitude. We need a tie. That we can do. If Howard has a good game and the defense can hold on, maybe. Still going to wear the jersey and (in this heat) my scarf!

Posted by: bstanton20 | August 11, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

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