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Tuesday Kickaround

*D.C. United Coach Tom Soehn shares his observations of Saturday's match that he had to watch from home with illness.

*El Salvador names its training camp roster ahead of the Sept. 5 World Cup qualifier against the USA at Rio Tinto Stadium outside Salt Lake City and the Sept. 9 home game vs. Costa Rica. The list includes Red Bulls defender Alfredo Pacheco, Earthquakes midfielder Ramon Sanchez and Earthquakes midfielder-forward Arturo Alvarez, a former U.S. under-20 player who took advantage of FIFA's new dual-nation eligibility rule. Others on El Salvador's roster include former DCU midfielder Eliseo Quintanilla and one-time Real Maryland midfielder Denis Alas.

*With just 11 days until the USA-ES match, tickets are curiously still available at the 20,000-seat venue. Prices range from $38 to $300.

*Soccer America magazine's preseason top 25 for NCAA men: 1. North Carolina, 2. Akron, 3. St. John's, 4. Indiana, 5. Wake Forest, 6. Creighton, 7. California, 8. Maryland, 9. UCLA, 10. Notre Dame, 11. Northwestern, 12. Illinois-Chicago, 13. Connecticut, 14. Dartmouth, 15. UC Santa Barbara, 16. UC Irvine, 17. Loyola (Md.), 18. South Florida, 19. George Mason, 20. Cal Poly, 21. Michigan, 22. Tulsa, 23. Louisville, 24. Boston University, 25. Denver. (The season begins in earnest Sept. 4 and includes UCLA at defending champion Maryland.)

For today's TV listings.....

*Soccer on TV:
Euro Champions League, Haifa-Salzburg 2:30 p.m. Fox Soccer Channel
Euro Champions League Atletico Madrid-Panathinaikos 2:30 p.m. Comcast SportsNet-DC, Fox Sports Espanol (live); 7 p.m. FSC (tape)
Euro Champions League, Anderlecht-Lyon 2:40 p.m. Setanta (live); 5 p.m. FSC (tape)
Euro Champions League, Debreceni-Levski Sofia 5 p.m. FSE
Copa Sudamericana, Libertad-LDU Quito 7 p.m. FSE
CONCACAF Champions League, Pachuca-Metapan 8 p.m. Telefutura
Copa Sudamericana, Espanola-La Equidad 9:30 p.m. FSE
CONCACAF Champions League, Saprissa-Puerto Rico 10 p.m. FSC, Galavision

By Steve Goff  |  August 25, 2009; 9:00 AM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF , College Soccer , D.C. United , TV , U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

Ha! What kind of absurd pricing scheme could have a range of $38-300 in a 20,000 seat stadium? No wonder they are still available!

Posted by: inzzo79 | August 25, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I was about to type the same thing, inzzo79. USSF continues to make every match overpriced and then fans wonder why people aren't filling stadiums.

Posted by: sitruc | August 25, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Steve CSN will be showing a Champion's League pregame at 2pm followed by Atletico Madrid/Panathinaikos Live and in HD @ 230pm.

Posted by: DadRyan | August 25, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

inzzo, you stole my thunder!

$38 to $300??? I LIVE AND DIE the US nats, but I don't think I will ever pay more than $50 for a ticket!

Ridic!

BTW isn't Quintanilla yellow carded out of the US qualifier?

Posted by: arswift24 | August 25, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I think these regular UMD vs. UCLA and Cal games are a nice way to start the season, and although the Terps always have a few easy out of conference games, playing the Cali teams gives us a good sense of how we really are.

Also, looking at the top 25, I do not see the Zips anywhere near the #2 ranking by the end of the season.

Posted by: M__N | August 25, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Creighton will be nation champions!

COME ON YOU OMAHANS!

Posted by: arswift24 | August 25, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

DirecTv has a wider assortment of games on special channels 461-466 or thereabouts. There's a 4 in 1 channel on 461, and a group of Hi-def matches.

Also, CSN 642 on DirecTV has a Hi-def game today.

All games feature teams that exceed the capabilities of my spell checker....

Posted by: JkR- | August 25, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

If Alvarez is taking advantage of the new FIFA rule, does that mean Jones could be available for this match for the US?

Posted by: CrippledKeeper | August 25, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Keeper,

Jones isn't even back to Schalke with his hairline fracture. So probably won't be in camp.

HOPEFULLY we can get E. Castillo in, or as Sir Alex would say, "We want to get the boy in camp, see how he plays"

Posted by: arswift24 | August 25, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Ha! What kind of absurd pricing scheme could have a range of $38-300 in a 20,000 seat stadium? No wonder they are still available!

Posted by: inzzo79 | August 25, 2009 9:09 AM

+1

This has been a landmark Summer (non-World Cup Finals) for interest in the US team - and our federation have this match in a dinky stadium with luxury priced tickets. Morons. It's time to really start asking questions about the way things are done in Chicago.

A lot of us have been angry about ticket prices and publicity around the Open Cup this Summer. Finally, after some trash talk from Seattle, United saw the light. We'll end up with more fans at the Open Cup Final than the US will get for a crucial qualifier.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

So has there been any response from MLS officials about the blown offside call? I remeber in the past that they tend to go over calls every week for instructional purposes and thought this might be one of them.

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | August 25, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

it's not out yet Doug.

Posted by: DadRyan | August 25, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Dougmacintyre -- this week's USSF memo isn't out yet; but when it does come out, I don't expect the mistake at the LA match to be singled out. The purpose of those weekly USSF memos, as you note, is instructional; they'll only pick that one to go over if they think there's some useful instructional point to be made. Since they've used blown offside calls already this year, it's not clear to me that they'll see much instructional value in this case, and go over things again.

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | August 25, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Comcast TV listing added to list. Thanks!

Posted by: Steve Goff | August 25, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Kev29, I'm going to have to debate a couple things you said:

First, would you rather have 35,000 Salvadorans flock to RFK to face the US than have a game where the US is bound to have an actual home-field advantage, albeit in a smaller park? It's the same thought process as Mexico in C'bus, an that works wonderfully. You can make a point that Seattle should have gotten this game, but when they only draw 15,000 to a Gold Cup game (yea, it was against Grenada, but it was a doubleheader with Honduras and Haiti and Seattle's first USMNT game in years. For perspective, Gillette Stadium drew about 25,000 against Haiti), I'm not confident that the US would have the upper hand there. So a smaller stadium in a place with VERY low Latino populations makes much more sense.

And if we get more than 20,000 for the Open Cup final, I'll be utterly shocked (but in a good way)!

Posted by: kdiff813 | August 25, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I am a bit mystified that the MD men's team is only ranked #8. They are the reigning national champs and had the #2 ranked recruiting class (IIRC). I would think that would put them a little higher up the food chain than that, even having lost several key players.

Posted by: HarkesyRules | August 25, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Well, kdiff, my beef is really more about pricing than location. You are not going to pull in the people that you're hoping for in super white areas with high ticket prices.

And I didn't say that the match should be at RFK - never again for ES/Guatemala/Honduras. But I also think the hiding and overcharging for matches has gotten out of hand. Yeah, it's now a fun tradition for the Mexico match in Columbus (though the stadium is still nearly half full of El Tri).

Seattle would have been a good pick, but they make things difficult with grass having to be purchased and laid in. But I still think Salt Lake is a good spot for this match, with realistic pricing.

I just think the tail is wagging the dog a bit too much at the federation and a re-think is in order.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Cities that put up the $ for an MLS stadium and franchise should be rewarded with US matches. Hopefully the place will sell out, or at least come close. Hard to schedule a game on Labor Day Weekend, though.

Posted by: hacksaw | August 25, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Pretty pointless debate in general. The US should play where there is the most fan interest, period. I can't believe people are still wetting themselves over one CONCACAF home qualifying loss --never mind still blaming the venue for that loss -- to the point where they judge USSF on its ability to select a venue with cheap tickets, a huge crowd, and oh by the way, "no Latinos".

It just seems inordinately stupid to be so preoccupied with having this cake and eating it too, especially when the cake probably tastes like sh*t anyhow. I wouldn't want to go to such a game.

Bottom line, this is America, this is soccer in America, and it's ridiculous and childish to expect the powers that be to reserve that exclusively for YOU. Especially when to get what you want, US would have to play its qualifiers in Norway.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | August 25, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

You can't have WCQ's in Football stadiums with fake grass. While they could lay in Grass it would be a disaster with the Seachickens hosting the Raiders two days prior. No one cares about US Soccer in Seattle anyway.

Posted by: DadRyan | August 25, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Quintanilla is out for the USA game...he's on the list for the Costa Rica game afterwards on the 9th...

Also, this is not Arturo's 1st game with ES...he already made his debut in the last WCQ match vs Trinidad...Here's a clip that breaksdown all his plays in that game : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVc_-d3i3Q

Posted by: ESFan21 | August 25, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Have to disagree . . . . the US should play where they have the best chance of winning, period . . . and that includes having a crowd that will support the US team . . . and if we have to go to Norway to do it, that's cool with me. The point is to get into the World Cup, period.

Posted by: OWNTF | August 25, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

@Kev29

"This has been a landmark Summer (non-World Cup Finals) for interest in the US team - and our federation have this match in a dinky stadium with luxury priced tickets. Mormons."

/LDSed

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | August 25, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

For those bummed by high ticket prices, the 2 Maryland games next week against top-ten opponents are $8 per adult and $5 per kid. Now that I am a Virginian, I feel obliged to complain about how far it is to get to Maryland...but I'm still going.

Posted by: troy6 | August 25, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Rio Tinto is missing a marketing opportunity: Buy one ticket for you and your wife and your second wife gets in free.

I suppose I should apologize for that.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 25, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

good source for local college round up, mens and womens

http://www.potomacsoccerwire.com/news/458/7474

Posted by: OWNTF | August 25, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

US fan's pics and story of the trip to Azteca. Some quality photos, including the paddy wagon.

http://douglaszimmerman.blogspot.com/

Posted by: delantero | August 25, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Have to disagree . . . . the US should play where they have the best chance of winning, period . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | August 25, 2009 11:09 AM

Well, they won in Chicago (albeit with a shaky start) in front of a pro-Honduras crowd. They won in Columbus in front of a split crowd and they won in Nashville in front of an all-US crowd. That's a pattern that's repeated itself for a couple decades now, with the exception of the 2001 Honduras match.

I think the team does it's job just fine. It's the fans and organizers that have to step up and make the atmosphere better for the team. And if you're going to have split crowds (ones where we always end up fighting over whether it was 60-40 or 40-60) you might as well get a crowd of 50k, not 20k. Though I'm in favor of using MLS stadiums when possible, especially for preliminary matches.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Rio Tinto is missing a marketing opportunity: Buy one ticket for you and your wife and your second wife gets in free.

I suppose I should apologize for that.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 25, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

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If you don't offer the elder and his wives the same rate as a coach and his U-16 team, is that illegal?

Posted by: OWNTF | August 25, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

@OWNTF

i agree with you in theory but if the only way we can qualify is by hiding games in small stadiums in out-of-the-way locales, then what good are we doing the game in this country? how is the casual fan supposed to react when it looks like we're scared of El Salvador?

i know we don't want hostile environments at home, but it seems like there would be other ways to ensure a pro-US crowd in some of the larger stadiums through selective and creative ticket distribution (set aside thousands for free/reduced prices through local youth leagues maybe - marketing is not my forte). USSF won't do that because they seem hellbent on charging as much as possible and whoever buys the tickets they don't really care. sure some of the tickets would end up in "enemy" hands anyway, but if 70K+ are showing up in Baltimore for an exhibition it means there is an audience for this stuff and it's not all Central Americans.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | August 25, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I really appreciate you, I-270Exit1

Posted by: Konoha7 | August 25, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I suppose I should apologize for that.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 25, 2009 11:26 AM

No, no, stick to your guns :-)

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The most good we can do for the game in the US is to win the Cup. And why not? At least start climbing the ladder. And you gotta be in it to win it. Most general US sports fans don't give a crap about US beating El Salvador, because they figure (quite properly in my view) that El Salvador and the like should be bugs on the US windshield in any sport we choose to play.

Posted by: OWNTF | August 25, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

my argument seems a little convoluted upon re-reading. to me, USSF has 3 goals that compete with and/or augment each other to some degree:

1) put the US team in the best position to win
2) make the most money possible
3) grow the game & fanbase in the US

my main point was that they seem to prioritize #1 or #2 at the expense of #3. in SLC, #1 is the highest priority, but they are still trying to wrong as much $$$ of the small stadium as they can, possibly at the expense of #3.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | August 25, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

The only scheme that woukld work to maybe keep a decent crowd of pro-US. Would be to offer a two-for deal. Buy one ticket for the match and charge a RSL game ticket as well. Like they have been doing in Arizona for the Cardinal games against the Cowboys. They charge that game but also make the fans buy an exhibition match ticket as well. It seems to work since it deters bandwagon fans.
Dont know if it will work but it could be worth a try. Maybe for the lower bowl section but all I can think about is the controversy from the Honduras match in RFK.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I'm an RSL season ticket holder and purchased 4 tickets, the maximum allowed during "our" round of the presale. That being said, I almost didn't get to purchase them, RSL/USMNT didn't send an email outlining purchase instructions until the day before the 36 hour sale commenced. This was after 3 months of NO specific information on any of the ticketing procedures. Not to mention the $38 face value of the ticket is more than double than that of the same ticket for an RSL game. Needless to say it was an aggravating process and ticket sales have definitely suffered because of it. You can blame the USMNT, RSL Front Office and the lack of integration between the two.

Those original polygamist/Mormon jokes just never get old do they? You know you'd do it if you could...

Posted by: Steelewall | August 25, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Where are all the Ayn Rand fans today to tell us that high ticket prices are fine, just cuz we don't have the money we shouldn't get upset at those who do, blah blah?

Posted by: fallschurch1 | August 25, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I wish Soehn would get sick every day.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 25, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

That being said, I almost didn't get to purchase them, RSL/USMNT didn't send an email outlining purchase instructions until the day before the 36 hour sale commenced. This was after 3 months of NO specific information on any of the ticketing procedures. Not to mention the $38 face value of the ticket is more than double than that of the same ticket for an RSL game. Needless to say it was an aggravating process and ticket sales have definitely suffered because of it. You can blame the USMNT, RSL Front Office and the lack of integration between the two.

Posted by: Steelewall | August 25, 2009 11:59 AM

Poor organization... from the federation who tried to collect tens of thousands of orders for the 2006 World Cup with one fax machine?? No way!

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The only scheme that woukld work to maybe keep a decent crowd of pro-US. Would be to offer a two-for deal. Buy one ticket for the match and charge a RSL game ticket as well. Like they have been doing in Arizona for the Cardinal games against the Cowboys. They charge that game but also make the fans buy an exhibition match ticket as well. It seems to work since it deters bandwagon fans.
Dont know if it will work but it could be worth a try. Maybe for the lower bowl section but all I can think about is the controversy from the Honduras match in RFK.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 11:59 AM

I don't think that's necessarily the issue in Salt Lake - sounds like poor organization and pricing are the issues.

The only ways you can guaranty pro-US crowds in larger cities/stadiums would be to increase membership schemes, reduce ticket prices, increase promotion, then enforce actual crowd segregation. The latter would be considered completely un-American and anti-capitalist, so I don't ever see it happening here. Segregation would have to come about the way it has around the world, as a security mandate.

That way the police and hired security could tell a Mexico fan (for example) that he/she has to buy tickets and then actually sit in their mandated part of the stadium. Then US Soccer could allocate Mexico (for example) 10 or 15% of the stadium's capacity.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Sad to see Arturo switching his national commitment. A great player, and great kid too.

Posted by: fentysupporter | August 25, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

@Steelewall

thanks for posting. good to see that they continue to do things entirely half-@ssed. still no word on tickets for the Costa Rica match at RFK either. isn't this the time they could be trying to offer those up to US fans to make sure we are packing the house for what could be a hugely important game? so aggravating.

and yeah the Mormon jokes have a certain staying power. i even lived in Utah for 4 years and didn't get completely sick of them.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | August 25, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

@WashingtonDips: yeah, the usl IS owned by Nike after they eat up UMBRO. And now, of course, Nike is looking to unload the USL. So you didn't miss much, Bro.

Posted by: yankiboy | August 25, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

So now we find out why Oliver Weiss resigned as Virginia Tech's head coach.

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/wb/216536

Posted by: screamedout | August 25, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey Godfather of goals? are you going to the game? The Us is trying to do whats best for the team, a huge crowd for the away teams motivates the away team giving them a better chance. I am sure we would have lost plenty of more games if we listened to you from DAY 1. I am pretty sure Mexico or Bolivia try to play there games where there is the most interest as apposed to the highest altitude right?

Posted by: Norteno4life | August 25, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Hull City is in action tonight against the Shrimpers of Southend United in a Carling Cup match.

Posted by: addick | August 25, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

That way the police and hired security could tell a Mexico fan (for example) that he/she has to buy tickets and then actually sit in their mandated part of the stadium. Then US Soccer could allocate Mexico (for example) 10 or 15% of the stadium's capacity.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

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That would suck because let say the US plays Mexico at RFK. If a security mandtae was enforced. It would be a disaster becuase in this region of the US, there is a strong Central American presence. I, being one as well, will want a ticket to see Mexico lose but since I look "Mexican" Ill end up in the Mexico crowd when I would want to sit in the US or Neutral for US crowd. I can see that backfiring big time not to mention the outcry from the Spanish media outlets like Univision and Telemundo. It could spark something the US wouldnt want.


Early promotion of the game will not work either. Because once it is promoted to the American crowd the Latino community will hear about it as well at the same time.

The US has it tough but the Federation isnt playing their cards right. Alot could be done but they are just greedy.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

arswift24:

Looking into my crystal ball, Creighton will make their traditional quarterfinal visit to College Park, where they will, as the tradition dictates, lose to Maryland. It will also be colder than is reasonable. Sorry.

***

What you guys don't know about those $300 seats at Rio Tinto is that they're actually on the Salvadoran bench. Play your cards right and you could get subbed in!

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | August 25, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I can see that backfiring big time not to mention the outcry from the Spanish media outlets like Univision and Telemundo. It could spark something the US wouldnt want.

Early promotion of the game will not work either. Because once it is promoted to the American crowd the Latino community will hear about it as well at the same time.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 12:44 PM

I agree Dips, it would be really, really tricky here. Though security would enforce policies not because of "looks", but if fans visibly supporting the other team, then it can be viewed as a security risk. I'm not dreaming this up, that's how it goes in England. Cheering an away goal, or wearing colors in a home section is reason enough for ejection.

That said, could you imagine CSC enforcing something that complicated at RFK?? Yikes - they can barely deal with ten Red Bull fans!

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, this has gotten me worked up.

As a season ticket holder, I've already expressed an interest in the sport, committed my summer weekends to games and shelled out more money than I would like to admit.

ATTN: USMNT/RSLFO, I've done all of the work for you! I'm sold, just show me where to sign! Instead, their lack of information, nonexistent marketing and convoluted ticketing scheme alienates and obstructs the built-in/given fan base, which consequently turns an easy sell-out into a mighty struggle.

Posted by: Steelewall | August 25, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Chest_Rockwell,

Colder than is reasonable?

I'd like the Terrapins to come to Omaha during the playoffs. 20 degree temps or less!

Posted by: arswift24 | August 25, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I'd like the Terrapins to come to Omaha during the playoffs. 20 degree temps or less!

Posted by: arswift24 | August 25, 2009 1:51 PM

I've frozen my ___ off during some playoff wins at College Park. It's not as if we live in Florida.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 25, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Omaha should host the next US-Mexico qualifier.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 25, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

OK, the 2nd wife gets in for free @ Rio Tanto. Shouldn't the 1st wife get a children's discount if she's 14 years old or younger?

Gets confusing eh?

Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 25, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I see that OWNTF and 9Nine are co-signing the apology.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 25, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

@Kev29

ten red bull fans! LOL!

RFK needs an away section like in other stadiums, like ive seen at the Old Firm Derby, Celtic v Rangers. Its a sea of green and white then two sections of Blue. At the lower section. Which United can take advantage by charging 10 dollars more for supporters to be isolated in their own section at the lower bowl instead of shooting them up in the upper bowl. It would want fans to sit closer to the field and getting more $$ in our favor. Just a thought.

But getting back to the other point, All hands to the US squad for facing I guess a unique situation of playing home fields with majorly away crowds. Props to them.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@yankiboy-
Was Umbro during the A-league years? Kinda funny that NIKE didnt do what MLS did and unified the kit system. Would have made them extra change. O well I guess Nike wanted something more, they now have the sponsorship rights for the Concacaf (game balls and warm-up jerseys..and etc..).

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | August 25, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see live football on Comcast, other that United matches that is.

Vamos...um...don't really care who wins. Panathapancakes uniform looks nice. Athletico-supporter's (I'll call them the Jockstraps) look like Chiva's...yuck!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 25, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Jozy Altidore starting for Hull vs South End (Hull up 1 zip), Markus Hanniman starting for Wolverhampton vs Swindon, Jonithon Spector for West Ham vs Millwal, Frank Simik for Sheff. Wed vs Port Valle in Carling Cup action. Jay De Merit not in uniform with Watford vs Leeds.

Monitoring at http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/latestscores/

Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 25, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

@ Dalentero Thanks for the link...great photos.

US fan's pics and story of the trip to Azteca. Some quality photos, including the paddy wagon.

http://douglaszimmerman.blogspot.com/

Posted by: 9Nine9 | August 25, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

First gratuitous mention of Jozy 'opening his account' for Hull in the League Cup.

Posted by: IamAM | August 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

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