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Video: DCU's Victory

Highlights from D.C. United's triumph on penalties against Firpo:

By Steve Goff  |  August 5, 2009; 10:29 AM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF Champions League , D.C. United  
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Wow...how did the ref let the PK stand? You can certainly stutter step up to the ball, but you can't stop completely, and then kick. Should have been a re-kick.

Posted by: icehippo | August 5, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I still find it ludicrous that Firpo's first half penalty was allowed to stand. The shooter clearly came to a full stop (even re-planting his plant foot), gained a competitive advantage from doing so, and it was done in an unsportsmanlike manner. Should have been a booking and a disallowance of the goal. Then that's 30 less fatigued minutes the Black-and-Red would have had to endure in this mad 5-week stretch.

Posted by: TheAMT | August 5, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

It really gets on my nerves that refs dont disallow those anymore. Ive seen it a couple of times this year and the refs never call it.

Posted by: spikeman | August 5, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Someone posted earlier -- it isn't -technically- against the Laws of the Game.

But there may be interpretations or guidelines that have made it so.

Posted by: Reignking | August 5, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

http://twitpic.com/cttuf

That's dedication Holmes.


And I wrote it on the other thread, but I remember Ronaldo getting called for it a couple of years ago, and he may even had missed the second attempt

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | August 5, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Did you guys know that the guy who made the PK for Firpo did the EXACT same thing in an El Salvador League match in April...and they made him take the PK over then...I was shocked the ref last night let it stand...

Posted by: ESFan21 | August 5, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I like Christian's "shhhhhh" to the fans after his PK. priceless.

Posted by: AnthonyTheGreat | August 5, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Yep. FIFA Laws of the Game for 2009/2010 still say:

The player taking the penalty kick:
• must be properly identified
The defending goalkeeper:
• must remain on his goal line, facing the kicker, between the goalposts until
the ball has been kicked

Posted by: Alsatian1 | August 5, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I'd love to hear from some licensed referees regarding the PK Firpo took in the first half. Below is the part of the Interpretation of the Laws of the Game in the Laws of the game that pertain to this:

Feinting to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted as part of
football. However, if, in the opinion of the referee, the feinting is considered an
act of unsporting behaviour, the player must be cautioned.

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | August 5, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Either way Wicks is pretty horrible at PKs, even when he guessed correctly he moved only a couple of inches and way too slowly. He should have stopped 2 of those PKs based on how well he guessed, but he dove like he was tethered to the ground.

Posted by: mcontento | August 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Either way Wicks is pretty horrible at PKs, ...
Posted by: mcontento

I'll disagree. He was fine.

Posted by: JkR- | August 5, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The stopping before shooting may or may not be legal, but the shooters team mate on his right clearly looks at the ref to make sure it wasn't called back before he celebrated.

Posted by: CrippledKeeper | August 5, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Correction,, make that the shooters left, our right.

Posted by: CrippledKeeper | August 5, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I thought Wicks did pretty well. If I'm not mistaken, he guessed correctly on at least 4 of 5, but Firpo hit them with such power (laces! ha) that he did not have much of a chance anyway. I was way more impressed with the young players on DCU (including Burch in the clutch) taking their kicks so easily.

Posted by: VTUnited | August 5, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I'd love to hear from some licensed referees regarding the PK Firpo took in the first half.

Posted by: Dougmacintyre

Licensed ref here. Under current interpretations of the rules, the kick is illegal. You can't stop during the run-up to the kick.

Posted by: icehippo | August 5, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Fire Sohen! He can't manage a game with his substitutions!

Wicks was fine on PKs, those Firpo shots were no youth league strikers. They had some mustard behind them. We all would have looked like fools flapping around in the net.

Is the sky still falling?

Posted by: grubbsbl | August 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Wicks won, 5-4. That's all that matters.

Posted by: Reignking | August 5, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Not only was the PK illegal, there was a Firpo player who crashed the penalty box before the ball was struck.

That's two reasons to make them take it over.

Wick's looks slow. I don't think he's capable of stopping any pk, because he seems to see the ball too late and just isn't very quick.

Posted by: delantero | August 5, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Um, McBride (CHI)? June 13? RFK? Preserving a crucial victory?

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | August 5, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I think Wicks is getting a raw deal on the PK's. After the ref let the Firpo player completely stop, I'm sure that he felt like he couldn't react until he was sure the player was actually going to kick the ball, thus slowing his reaction time. I'll reserve my layman's judgement until I've seen a few more.

Posted by: pecanturtle | August 5, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

i don't even think he should get to take it over. you pull that crap you forfeit your right to take a pk, otherwise people have no reason to not test the ref and see whether he's going to call it or not.

FIFA needs to take a stand on this, and get it out of the game now.

Posted by: joe_hill | August 5, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad I watched the match. Otherwise, I would think, based on the comments, that DC lost.

Hey JacobfromAtlanta-ish: I think your brother was feeding you misinformation to make you look stupid on the internet. Did he also say that Bolt ran uphill? My brother used to do that too, but we didn't have an the internet back then, so my looking stupid was fairly well contained.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | August 5, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

To add some defense to Wicks, I think he would have stopped the shot that was blasted over if it had been on frame.

Is he a great goalkeeper, no. Has DCU ever taken goalkeeping seriously, no. We let the best goalkeeper in DC United history slip away to Norway with no visible effort to keep him.

Posted by: diego_r | August 5, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Yes, he would have stopped that shot -- stopped it from ricocheting from the back of the net back onto the field, with his rear end. But so what?

It's ridiculous to judge any pro GK on a PK situation. A PK should be a goal, period. If one is ever saved, it's because the GK was a little lucky, the shooter screwed up, or most often, BOTH.

All of the pressure is on the shooter in any PK situation. That's why it's the only time of the game where Wicks looks relaxed.

And, there's no clear, written rule making that PK illegal. It's the ref's judgement. He can show a yellow if it's unsportsmanlike, but there is no (clear, written) provision for disallowing, much less cancelling, the PK opportunity. Remember, PKs are awarded for a reason, and should always result in a goal.

A few years ago, the GK by rule could not move at all prior to the kick, so there was no reason to make rules governing the kicker's run-up. You dive too soon, tough. And let's not forget that even with the new rules allowing lateral GK movement, every GK cheats on every PK, each and every time.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | August 5, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

wasn't it more the case that Perkins really wanted badly to go to Europe so the club didn't stand in his way? What sense would it have made to require him to stay when he didn't really want to be here?

Posted by: fedssocr | August 5, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I was pleasantly surprised to see DC United so convincingly convert all five PKs ... with Emilio, Moreno, Fred and Quaranta already out of the picture.

A way to improve the beautiful game of soccer: Move PKs to the 18-yard line and give the goalies a fighting chance.

Posted by: Cerealman | August 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Official via twit. Jozy goes to Hull.

Posted by: Reignking | August 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully I am not a twit.

I was surprised by how big the crowd was last night since Firpo plays its regular home games in another part of the country.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | August 5, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I was surprised by how big the crowd was last night since Firpo plays its regular home games in another part of the country.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | August 5, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Firpo plays its home game in san salvador and usulutan. they have a big fan base in san salvador

Posted by: ssdesv | August 5, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

GOG-
You are correct that this isn't written down, and that it is all up to the CR & AR's interpretation. GKs always bend the law because they're expected to fail, but kickers can't use the law as a ploy to insure themselves against failure. Inducing a GK into violating the PK procedure via a feint isn't just illegal - it's unsporting.

My ruling in this situation: Allow the kick to proceed. Caution the kicker. Retake the kick if the ball enters the goal. IFK from the penalty spot if it doesn't. Anybody who doesn't like it gets a brief explanation, and if they persist, they get a caution as well! For all you players out there: Don't argue with an official who already has his book out - we want to get our money's worth. (j/k on that last bit...)

Posted by: mason08 | August 5, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

From the matchnight thread:

RE start-stops on PKs: Roversfan is correct. FIFA's rules do NOT prohibit a kicker from starting, stopping, then restarting on a PK. HOWEVER, various leagues put out an "Advice" book, and in many (not all), it is stated that this attempt to deceive the keeper is against the spirit of the game. The advice given is that the kicker should be cautioned (yellow) and the PK retaken. BUT THIS IS ADVICE!

Posted by: prokaryote

From the FIFA advice section in Laws of the Game 2009/2010:
Feinting to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted as part of
football. However, if, in the opinion of the referee, the feinting is considered an
act of unsporting behaviour, the player must be cautioned.

Posted by: jermWV | August 5, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

jermWV-
Exactly. It's subject to interpretation. Clearly, last nights official has a rather liberal opinion of what is a sporting feint. (Not to mention that he missed a teammate of the kicker who was faked out and entered the Penalty area prematurely, but whatever... that happens almost every single time...)

I do think though, that the quote you are lifting underestimates the role of the advice that national federations and FIFA provide. This "advice" is as important to Referees as the Laws of the Game themselves. It informs our judgement and application of the laws. Heck... More than half of the 2009/2010 Law Book is advice and procedures.

Posted by: mason08 | August 5, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Seattle would have won the penalty kick shootout 7-0.

Posted by: DCUMD | August 5, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Having seen the handball, I want to blacken Burch's other eye. Now.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | August 5, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

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