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Americans Abroad, Wed. Edition

English League Cup
GK Tim Howard 90 in Everton's 4-0 win at Hull City
GK Brad Guzan 90 in Aston Villa's 1-0 win over Cardiff City
GK Marcus Hahnemann 90 in Wolves' 1-0 loss at Manchester United
F Jozy Altidore not in 18 for Hull's loss to Everton
F Eddie Johnson 91 in Fulham's 2-1 overtime loss at Manchester City
MF Clint Dempsey not in 18 for Fulham at Manchester City
Scottish Cup
MF DaMarcus Beasley not in 18 for Rangers' 2-1 win at Queen of South
GK Dom Cervi in 18, didn't play in Celtic's 4-0 win at Falkirk
German Cup
F Kenny Cooper 68 (goal!) in 1860 Munich's 2-2 tie (PK win) vs. Hertha Berlin
GK Luis Robles in 18, didn't play in Kaiserslautern's 2-1 win over Leverkusen
French Cup
F Charlie Davies not in 18 for Sochaux's 2-1 loss at Rennes
D Carlos Bocanegra not in 18 for Rennes' victory
Portuguese Cup
MF-F Freddy Adu 26 in Belenenses' 1-0 loss at Rio Ave
Danish Cup
D Michael Parkhurst 90 in Nordsjaelland's 4-1 win at AB Copenhagen
F Marcus Tracy 10 in Aalborg's 3-0 win at Thisted
D Oguchi Onyewu in 18, didn't play in AC Milan's 1-0 loss at Udinese
MF Alejandro Bedoya 90 in Orebro's 0-0 tie with Goteborg

By Steve Goff  |  September 23, 2009; 8:47 PM ET
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Who is this Freddy Adu character?

Gooch, terrible move.

Posted by: grubbsbl | September 23, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow - far, FAR too early to judge Gooch's move. Give it time.

Posted by: glfrazier | September 23, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, far too early to judge Gooch's move. And he would've been crazy to turn down Serie A money. Even reserves make at least a million and a half dollars.

Posted by: Steve Goff | September 23, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I was going to make a joke about the dawn of the Freddy Adu era...but my heart's not in it. Nice work getting in the game. Let's hope it becomes more frequent.

Awesome work by Cooper. Very encouraging. Guzan's clean sheet also good to see. Folks there are really impressed with him.

The Fulham match may be the most interesting. EJ went the distance -- and web reports are that he played well. Fulham played a team entirely of reserves, while Man City played their first-team. A David vs. Goliath match. One blogger claims the respective salaries of the players on the pitch at 25 million quid against 400 million quid -- the average salary of each of Man City's players, exceeding the combined total for Fulham's side. Yet, Fulham took ManCity into overtime. That will get Coach Hodgson to sit up and take notice. According to the Fulham site: "Eddie Johnson in particular was working hard along the City back line." EJ set up the lone goal, and the teams were tied when he was subbed out going into extra time. Methinks EJ will get more time with Fulham, even if they're out of this tournament.

Posted by: fischy | September 23, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse


Quakes 1:0 Dicks


Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | September 23, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

SJ chokes again in extra time, coughs up another no-brainer PK call. Still holds CO to a home draw, and SJ's Corrales suspended for match against DC.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | September 23, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Good for Kenny. Bad for Hertha. :-(

Posted by: rademaar | September 23, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

so 2 games in a row (and both against San Jose) that Colorado gets a PK in extra time to avoid a loss/gain a tie

Posted by: emanon13 | September 23, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

AND CO is now two points up on DCU in the table!

Still, it could've been much worse -- thanks Quakes.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | September 23, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Go Cooper, horrible move for Gooch, I don't care how much his paycheck is, we'll never see Beasley again in a MNT kit, good for Freddy, and I never thought I'd say it: EDDIE.

Posted by: adamsunited | September 24, 2009 6:32 AM | Report abuse

What's up with the center alignment today?

Nice to see some names we haven't heard in a while. Thanks for the added info on EJ.

Anybody have any info on what Freddy did with his minutes?

Posted by: Matte | September 24, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Just answered my own question ... found this on Yanks Abroad.

Posted by: Matte | September 24, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Goff apparently thought "justified left" was offensive to JoeDoc and B&RD.

Posted by: troy6 | September 24, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 24, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

For the Cup games, tnteresting mix of guys resting because they are in the regular starting squad (Boca and Davies), Eddie and Freddy type appearances, and everything in between. Probably too early to say for Gooch, but not only is he smart to collect a paycheck at this point in his career, but maybe he is smart to put himself in a position where he has to fight for time and improve certain parts of his game rather than just be Gooch in Belgium (or Holland where some people thought he should go). If it works, we have an even better Gooch in great form by next Summer. If not, is he really going to be much worse off than if he had played all year in Liege or Amsterdam? Hard to say, but not exactly a clear cut case against the move.

Posted by: sportsparenttoo | September 24, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Some folks may be reading too much into the appearances of American players in early round domestic Cup games vs a non-appearance by Gooch in a Serie A game.

Every team is different and manages it's roster as it wants. Good performances by Freddy Adu or Kenny Cooper or Marcus Hahnemann in Cup games are encouraging. But the fact that Onyewu suited up but didn't play in AC Milan's league game is not too discouraging.

He is making the team bench for the games and that means his coach foresees at least a possibility that he might play. Plenty of AC Milan players don't even "make the 18" for each game.

In a separate note, last night on Contacto Deportivo they had a preview segment of Pumas vs Real Espana (from Honduras) in the Concacaf Champions League. Because the airport in San Pedro Sula was closed due to the political instability in the country, Real Espana had to take quite a long bus trip to El Salvador to board their flight to Mexico City.

I imagine Marathon, DC United's Honduran opponent tonight, might face similar travel travails (do I get credit for a pun or something?).

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | September 24, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Oh, so Davies and Altidore need to learn a thing or two before getting on the field. Here's the thing, though. They, unlike your other players, CAN ACTUALLY SCORE!!!

Not in the 18? This is inexplicable.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | September 24, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

ps. If Eddie Johnson gets more minutes this season than Jozy and Davies, we are screwed.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | September 24, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Oh, so Davies and Altidore need to learn a thing or two before getting on the field. Here's the thing, though. They, unlike your other players, CAN ACTUALLY SCORE!!!

Not in the 18? This is inexplicable.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | September 24, 2009 11:12 AM

I have a completely different take on this than Demon. The fact that Davies and Altidore were held out out of Cup matches by their coaches actually bodes well for their positions with the clubs. Davies has been playing regularly in the Ligue Une games -- being held out of this game just shows the coach did not value the tournament. As for Altidore -- Phil Brown used a lot of new players for the match. The fact that Altidore wasn't in the 18 just means that Brown is planning to use him more in EPL matches. And, the performance of the team doesn't suggest anyone impressed the coach.

You have to look at the team and whether the team used a lot of regulars. The appearances by Adu and EJ are significant only because they haven't been on the game-day rosters in other matches. They needed chances to impress. It seems EJ did that -- and Adu is just getting his feet wet with the new team.

Posted by: fischy | September 24, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

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