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USA-Honduras TV?

If you were frustrated by the process of trying to watch the USA-Mexico qualifier at Azteca last month (remember mun2?), you'll love the TV situation brewing for the USA-Honduras match -- a game that has massive implications for the Americans' World Cup hopes.

The Honduran federation sold the U.S. TV rights for the Oct. 10 game in San Pedro Sula to MediaPro, a Spanish-based firm that serves as a middle man for coverage that often appears on ... pay-per-view and closed circuit.

So there is a very good chance that this vital game will not appear on any of the ESPN outlets or Telemundo. Not even the cuddly mun2.

We may very well have a flashback to, say, 1979, when fans would have to pay $25 to gather at arenas and banquet halls to watch an El Salvador-Guatemala qualifier or a heavyweight title bout.

Efforts are continuing to make the game accessible to a broad audience on standard TV. ESPN did try to negotiate with MediaPro, I'm told by several sources. However, according to an ESPN contact, "The rights holder is planning to exploit the rights via a different avenue that does not include ESPN."

The USSF or ESPN could purchase the rights from MediaPro for several million dollars, but the sad truth is that the audience for American matches isn't big enough to offset such an enormous cost. Financially, it wouldn't make sense. Pay-per-view or closed-circuit organizers are confident they could turn a profit because of the match's importance and the demand to watch it.

According to the USSF: "The Honduran federation chose to sell the U.S. television rights to the match, in both English and Spanish, to MediaPro and, to our understanding, did not place on them any obligation to resell the English-language rights to this particular game to a third party."

One option is to see the match in person. TACA is offering roundtrip flights to San Pedro Sula via San Salvador for $250.

Outraged? Yeah, I thought so.

Stay with the Insider for further details.....

By Steve Goff  |  September 11, 2009; 12:51 PM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , CONCACAF , TV , U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

Welcome to the soccer life in America!

Posted by: redskinsux | September 11, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Is it at least on the radio?

Posted by: bigwave | September 11, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't even know what closed-circuit means.

PPV? I'll boycott it. And find it on the internet.

Posted by: Reignking | September 11, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

They did the same thing in 01.

Posted by: beach3 | September 11, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"The USSF or ESPN could purchase the rights from MediaPro for several million dollars"

A "consultant fee" to Jack Warner would be cheaper.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 11, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Outraged?
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Nope. The model of supply and demand is a stern mistress. I am not angry that too few United Statesians are interested to justify a winning ESPN bid. ESPN is not a charity.

Posted by: OWNTF | September 11, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

All the more reason for those of us in the D.C. area to go to RFK for the Costa Rica game. Though I bet Honduras-USA will be on the Interweb somewhere.

Posted by: Miles_Standish_Proud | September 11, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

We'll just have to hope some folks in Honduras will stream their domestic feed on one of the various and sundry websites that are available.

You don't have to go all the way back to 1979 to recall this kind of coverage, it was like this in 1999.

Posted by: Eric_in_Baltimore | September 11, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

All the more reason for those of us in the D.C. area to go to RFK for the Costa Rica game.
Posted by: Miles_Standish_Proud
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I don't follow your logic. What does RFK attendance have to do with nationwide viewership? If you want to send a message to the TV rights holders, all of us should stay home at watch USA-CR on TV.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 11, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Fly to Honduras? Hmmmmm...

Uh, no.

Steve, I am counting on your minute-by-minute Twitter updates to paint a picture for me of the game -- including Clint Dempsey's three first-half goals.

Posted by: joedoc1 | September 11, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's Friday and cocktail hour is around the corner, so I'm going to look on the bright side... At least countries and media companies (like NBC w/ Mexico) see the value in these matches nowadays - unlike the aforementioned bad old days. Seems to me that this qualifying campaign and Confed. Cup represent a watershed for soccer in the US media (add to that ESPN getting more involved with European leagues). Hopefully, the Confederation (ha! just kidding) and ESPN will become more involved from the start and sew up all US rights up front for future campaigns.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The Honduras FA owns all rights to the match, even in the US?

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | September 11, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Eh. I'm sure I can steal it on the Internet.

Posted by: mason08 | September 11, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

At least we can still go to bars to watch it. What day is it? Its a Saturday, so it shouldn't be a problem. The only issue is that bars might charge a cover to make up the cost of buying the PPV

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | September 11, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

To hell with Jack Warner... how 'bout a "consultant fee" to Jack Bauer.

Posted by: bbarrie | September 11, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Actually watching the T&T game me and my buddies wish we just flew there instead of trying to watch it at Public Bar (wouldn't turn on the sound..)

Any idea how to snag tickets for that game in Honduras? I'm tempted to pick up flight. 291$ is not a bad deal to see the US potentially qualify.

Posted by: Colsey | September 11, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It would be a very soccer-centric sports bar that ponies up for the HON-USA game. We have a few of those around here, but folks in the hinterland will be berefit. As others have noted, it'll probably be scarfable on the Ineternet from a foreign television station feed.

Posted by: glfrazier | September 11, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

If someone could organize an outside viewing area such as at the DC Mall with gigantic screen by purchasing the game through PPV to have all the interested people join and display how it is done and that there is plenty of football interest in this country.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | September 11, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

OWNTF--this is not about supply and demand (except on extreme levels). I bet that there was a kickback of somekind in Honduras. From a CONCACAF standpoint, this makes no sense whatsoever. I bet you that Honduras could have made more total money on a bid selling it to Telemundo or some other Spanish network. The Honduran FF is notorious for being poorly run, doing things that aren't in the best interest of their players or teams, being short-sighted. Witness them banning Guevara when he spoke up (as team captain) about what players were being paid to represent the NT. Witness their Olympic and junior olympic teams actually refusing to board aircraft to qualifying matches until they had written guarantees that they'd get meal money.

This is just mickey-mouse. Any federation with either the best interests of growing the game OR making money in the long-run would have taken a different approach. Someplace where people don't have TVs at home but go to bars/restaurants to see games (and the place charges a door charge) would go with closed circuit. But countries where people often watch at home (or have a disaspora of natives living across the country of another land) it makes no sense. Nah, I'm betting someone in the HFF ended up benefiting personally and there was no regard for total mount of money or what was best for overall viewership.

Posted by: JoeW1 | September 11, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Outraged?
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Nope. The model of supply and demand is a stern mistress. I am not angry that too few United Statesians are interested to justify a winning ESPN bid. ESPN is not a charity.

Posted by: OWNTF | September 11, 2009 1:16 PM

Actually, the USSF and MLS should stump up the cash for a time-buy on one of the (better) ESPN networks. It's an outrage that both DC United games were played opposite qualifiers this past week. For those of us who wish to attend both our clubs and countries matches, the two organizations that control soccer in the US need to get on the same page.

They could work in harmony (and through sales of on-air sponsorships) to promote the USMNT and MLS during the broadcast.

Hopefully the USSF is holding the other countires hostage over their local rights when it comes to qualifiers based in the USA. They should be more than able to generate enough coin from the sales of the away rights broadcasts to offset the cost of buying back the rights for broadcast in the USA. Especially when there is an equal audience (if not greater) for the Spanish-language broadcasts in the USA.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | September 11, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Outraged? Yes. Suprised? No.

This is typical. I do not recall the last time we were not able to watch the US men's team on FSC or ESPN, but I am not suprised. I think that the Honduran Soccer Federation probably made some good cash off of this, but I hope the media company who purchased the rights and held them hostage does not make a dime. Actually I hope they go bankrupt, but I doubt it. Honduras has a huge following and their fans would likely pay for this kind of crap.

Posted by: no_recess | September 11, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

It this purely a marketing / business situation, or is the Honduran federation being chicken $%^! about the whole affair? If it is the former, may be the increased media attention to the game would cause enough folks to turn it, so that either ESPN, our federation, or both step in and do something.

And if it is the latter, we should not be angry vengeful -- just make sure the next US-based qualifier against Honduras is at the time and location least convenient for Honduras and that their fans get the least comfortable and convenient seats:)

Posted by: Gene_SF | September 11, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Slightly OT but on the bright side (for some), just got an e-mail saying that DCU was giving free tix to Full Season Ticket Holders *only* to the two Champions League games against Marathon and SJ Jabloteh later on this month.

Posted by: Juan-John | September 11, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Rojadirecta.com my friends... if any place will have a good stream of the game, it will be them... cause you know the justin.tv links are going to get shut down.

Posted by: BolivianDCFan | September 11, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

With all the catrachos in the U.S. this outfil probably figures a pay per view deal will make them money - especially since Honduras stands a good chance of qualifying. It must have been a good deal for the Honduran federation. This way they don't have to hassle with negotiating the rights deals with anybody else. Pay per view here we come.

Posted by: sbg1 | September 11, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The only issue is that bars might charge a cover to make up the cost of buying the PPV

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | September 11, 2009 1:48 PM

If Steve's reported scenario plays out - you can count on at least $20 a head (like some UEFA and CONMEBOL).

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Is this the same MediaPro that owns GOL tv?

Posted by: no_recess | September 11, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Online. No biggie.

Posted by: gullett187 | September 11, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

meh. It's a Saturday. Shame on any of us for sitting home that evening anyway. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the bar!

Posted by: troy6 | September 11, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Ah the "free" market. So efficient....at $crewing people over.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 11, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Behind the Badge is reporting that Janicki is being put on the Disabled list with back spasms and Lawson Vaughn, formerly of Chivas USA, has been signed in his place.

Posted by: VercengetorixII | September 11, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"back spasms" must be code for the yips. or the sucks. regardless, hopefully he can get it all back together one day in the future.

Posted by: VTUnited | September 11, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

A bit off topic but can someone explain why during teh WC qualifications some teams have the names of the players on the back of the jersey and others do not? Is this madated per region or determined by the individual team?

Posted by: SoccerGuru | September 11, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Media Pro obviously made the HFF an offer it couldn't refuse. The problem is with CONCACAF. The events are their property and the TV rights should rest with them. Any conveyance of the broadcast rights to the host federation, whether for broadcast in the country of the host or of the visitor, must be made only with some proviso that CONCACAF may retain the rights to sell the righths to the game to basic cable and satellite outlets.

Posted by: lgm6986 | September 11, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

A bit off topic but can someone explain why during teh WC qualifications some teams have the names of the players on the back of the jersey and others do not? Is this madated per region or determined by the individual team?

Posted by: SoccerGuru

Some countries can't afford letters.

Please, think of the children.

Posted by: Reignking | September 11, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Meh, that's what the interweb is for.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 11, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

this sucks.... there is no soccer centric bar that is going to pay for PPV down here is Flagstaff. In fact, there is only 1 bar that has Sentanta or GolTV. I guess Ill be watching it on the internet.

As usual this is unfortunate and I believe a tactic by the Honduran Federation to limit access to American viewers. This would never happen anywhere else in the world, sadly not enough people will be outraged so nothing will be done by anyone to fix this problem.

Posted by: grubbsbl | September 11, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Each MLS team should purchase it and show it at their respective stadium on the big screen (assuming they have one....). I'd go to a stadium to watch it.

Posted by: hacksaw | September 11, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"""back spasms" must be code for the yips. or the sucks. regardless, hopefully he can get it all back together one day in the future.""

No pun intended? That must be some powerful back spasm. A little valium should do the trick.

Obvious that the hand has been forced by surgeries and injuries and crappy F.O. decisions, like our defensive reinforcement Avery John over Doe . . ugh.

Doe brought the speed we needed up front. N Silu? Please. And John just hasn't proven to be worth schnizzle. I think he's got one yellow card for every 80 minutes of league play. All of which were the result of bad defending. Plus the one he got in Champions league.

Posted by: delantero | September 11, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

regardless

Posted by: VTUnited | September 11, 2009 2:26 PM

I'm sorry, are you sure that's the word you were looking for? :-)

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

For all of you thinking you'll just "watch online", I tried watching some of Hon-T&T the other night, and on even the best feeds, it froze up every couple minutes.

I would go insane trying to watch a winner-take-all U.S. qualifier like that. Bar it is....

Posted by: StanShmenge | September 11, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

regardless

Posted by: VTUnited | September 11, 2009 2:26 PM

I'm sorry, are you sure that's the word you were looking for? :-)

Posted by: Kev29

i measured that word carefully. count me in the "irregardless is not a word" camp. ha.

Posted by: VTUnited | September 11, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Each MLS team should purchase it and show it at their respective stadium on the big screen (assuming they have one....). I'd go to a stadium to watch it.

Posted by: hacksaw | September 11, 2009 2:35 PM

PPV fees are based on occupancy of a venue. It's not like Pizza Hut Park could just pay $25.99 and then put it on a jumbotron for all to see. They'd have to pay an enormous fee to the PPV company, then charge $20 or so to each fan coming through the gate.

A similar fleecing occurs every weekend - ask Celtic fans.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Cmon Clermont!

Posted by: Reignking | September 11, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't even know what closed-circuit means.

PPV? I'll boycott it. And find it on the internet.

Posted by: Reignking | September 11, 2009 1:01 PM
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I wouldn't count on the internet. As for closed circuit -- that refers to broadcasts that are not widely available -- they are transmitted to certain destinations: the programs can be seen only on specified receivers connected to the television camera by circuits, which include microwave relays and coaxial cables. Back in the day, big sporting events, especially fights were shown in big theaters via closed circuit. You bought a ticket to watch the broadcast. Kinda cool, except when Gerry Cooney got disqualified in the 2nd round for punching Larry Holmes in the balls. Not worth the $40.

Posted by: fischy | September 11, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Meh, I watch all my games online anyways, this won't be any different.

Posted by: PEddy | September 11, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Ah the "free" market. So efficient....at $crewing people over.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 11, 2009 2:18 PM
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Thanks, dimes. I needed that laugh.

Posted by: joedoc1 | September 11, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Another thing keeping MLS teams from showing the Honduras qualifier that night? They'll be hosting league matches.

My head just exploded

:-)

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I believe a tactic by the Honduran Federation to limit access to American viewers. This would never happen anywhere else in the world, sadly not enough people will be outraged so nothing will be done by anyone to fix this problem.

Posted by: grubbsbl | September 11, 2009 2:35 PM |
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What possible reason would the Honduran Federation have for limiting access to American viewers? They're interested in getting the best price, as is the rights purchaser. If it takes limiting access to get that best price, then that's what they'll do. If they get a better price from ESPN, they'd do that. The question is whether ESPN (or any US television company) was even approached or allowed to participate in bidding for US rights. Not surprising they won't meet the demands that MediaPro needs to show a real profit. However, they may have had an unfair advantage in getting the rights.

Posted by: fischy | September 11, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

DCU signed Lawson Vaughn: http://www.behindthebadge.com/2009/09/lawson-vaughn-signed.php

Janicki to the "injured" list with "back spams."

Posted by: hoyanick1 | September 11, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

From BTB:

Here's what General Manager Dave Kasper had to say about Vaughn joining the team:

"Lawson is a player who has several years of experience playing in our League. He will provide us with an additional option in the back line and we look forward to having him on board."

Effusive praise, indeed. Could they be more excited about Vaughn?

Posted by: fischy | September 11, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Who cares...The USA Futbol team needs to wake up and realize they are who we thought they are. Keep Altidore and some of the younger players and give more caps to the youths. Bump up Rongen as the new coach and change the aggressive dump and chase style of play that never works. I could care less about the USA in the world cup. They're like "Western Kentucky" in the NCAA Tournament.

And if i have to watch Dempsey miss another shot on goal and still act like he's a good player...??? C'mon

Posted by: boricuabopper | September 11, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey, one of our leading scorers?

Posted by: Reignking | September 11, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

did that guy just ask for rongen to coach the MNT?

disqualified.

Posted by: VTUnited | September 11, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, the only 2 people less qualified to catch the Nats are Ray Hudson and Tommy Soehn.

Posted by: alecw81 | September 11, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and as far as PPV goes for this match...

Really?

Maybe a handful of sport's bars will buy it if they have a crowd requesting it, but nobody at home will. They'll all just go to the various sources of online streaming.

This is surely a case of biting off one's own nose to spite their face.

Posted by: alecw81 | September 11, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

@boricuabopper - not to turn this into a Bob Bradley discussion, but do you honestly think a guy like Rongen would do better? Bradley has coached the team to a Gold Cup victory in 07, and a 2nd place finish in the Confed Cup in 09. He used "youth focused" teams in his other two major tournament appearances during the cycle (07 Copa and 09 GC). He has the highest win % of any manager of the USMNT ever (over 40+ matches, thanks ESPN), and he has gone 1-1-1 in matches against the FIFA#1 ranked team. Do you really think Thomas Rongen would do better?

Posted by: VTUnited | September 11, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

and if i have to watch dempsey score goals against spain and brazil and still act like he's a good player...??? c'mon

Posted by: stairs | September 11, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, this sucks.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | September 11, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

What possible reason would the Honduran Federation have for limiting access to American viewers? ... However, they may have had an unfair advantage in getting the rights.

Posted by: fischy | September 11, 2009 2:54 PM

I believe there might be an answer here in your first and last sentences.

Maybe I'm just too cynical, but every tv deal like this seems suspicious to me. I'm willing to accept that the Honduran Federation could get a better price from the PPV seller than from ESPN, straight up. But I'm also open to the possibility that someone in the Honduran Fed is on the take and is pocketing a fee. It that case, that person doesn't care about the deal that makes the most money, only the deal that makes the most money for that person.

I think in four years the USSF should sell the Honduran rights for the US-Honduras qualifier to "Dave" from West Virginia or whatever, and see how it plays the other way (just kidding, but it would be fun!)

Posted by: CDRHoek | September 11, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I'm just too cynical, but every tv deal like this seems suspicious to me.

Posted by: CDRHoek | September 11, 2009 3:33 PM

You're not cynical. When talking about CONCACAF, everything is suspicious.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

well dun stairs

Posted by: OWNTF | September 11, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The USSF mishandled this matter as well. They could have insisted on reciprocal arrangements with the other federations that in order to televise games held in the US in your country, you have to give rights to our preferred broadcaster for US games in your country.

Posted by: edwmerry | September 11, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

-- just make sure the next US-based qualifier [...] and that their fans get the least comfortable and convenient seats:)
Posted by: Gene_SF
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:-) I think the Honduran ambassador has Sunil Gulati on speed dial.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 11, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The USSF mishandled this matter as well. They could have insisted on reciprocal arrangements with the other federations that in order to televise games held in the US in your country, you have to give rights to our preferred broadcaster for US games in your country.

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CONCACAF may prohibit such quid pro quos. I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: mason08 | September 11, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: csd1 | September 11, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Would anybody be surprised if the only Honduran motivation for this was to make it tougher for the citizens of this country to watch the game. Wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: croftonpost | September 11, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I think in four years the USSF should sell the Honduran rights for the US-Honduras qualifier to "Dave" from West Virginia or whatever, and see how it plays the other way (just kidding, but it would be fun!)

Posted by: CDRHoek | September 11, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

How about Jerm in WV? I could use a big payday!

Posted by: jermWV | September 11, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Would anybody be surprised if the only Honduran motivation for this was to make it tougher for the citizens of this country to watch the game. Wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: croftonpost | September 11, 2009 4:37 PM

Again, what would be the point of that? Are they going to get some sort of extra home field advantage because Gary in Fairfax doesn't feel like spending $20 to watch it on TV?

Posted by: Kev29 | September 11, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey stunk these last two games. Sorry, but he needs to get his ego in check and stop with the stupid, useless fakes that turn into counter attacks against us.

And Rongen is a horrible coach. If he ever takes over the men nats I'll stop watching.

Otherwise.... Im sure there will be somewhere to watch the US slap down Honduras.

Posted by: hacksaw | September 11, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it'll have a way of working itself out. Can someone twitter Brian Ching and ask him if there are any Soccer Bars on Oahu? I'll still be in Kailua on the 10th...

Posted by: DadRyan | September 11, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

1979? Try 1997 - I clearly remember watching some USMNT road qualifiers via PPV at bars.

Posted by: gocaps2 | September 11, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

DO NOT PAY ANYTHING FOR THIS MATCH!!!

We must demonstrate that there is no money in Pay-Per-View in America; not at home, not at bars, not at stadiums, not at movie theaters and not at huge TVs in Flagstaff.

The H-E-double-hockey sticks with them.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 11, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing is that the HondurASS Federation actually thinks they will make money this way. They actually think America, as a nation, cares about a soccer match enough to pay for it.

The truth is that if we asked twenty randomly selected people if they know who won any soccer match the day after it was played, it is possible that NOBODY would know or care.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 11, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

@joedoc1

always happy to amuse. i figured you might enjoy that one.

@9Nine9

since i went out for the last game and dropped about $30 on beer and a burger, why wouldn't i spend $30 to watch the game at home (with my already paid for beer and food)? i could get a couple friends to chip in and get down under $10 each. it doesn't take a ton of purchases to make money on these. $25 x 200,000 buys = $5M. boxing, a sport that may be less popular than soccer at this point, routinely sells 500,000+ PPV buys for big fights. why couldn't soccer do equal to that? Honduras will make money.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 11, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@dimesmakedollars

Paying $30 to see a match in person is different. The only reason boxing is successfull in the PPV format is because people pay for it.

If nobody buys PPV then the value to the rights owners goes down to a point that makes them affordable for ESPN or USSF to buy.

ESPN has been showing games for free, let's not help make the PPV model successful. We don't want them to get used to us paying for matches that we are used to getting for free.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 11, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Ever notice that USA matches or the MLS Championship get almost identical amounts of viewers each and every time...250,000 or 300,000? (Something like that)

I understand that that this predictibility has it advantages in the commercial TV market. They know that the same people watch every big match.

Advertisers know that Dimes, Nine, Grubsie and Atlantish WILL be watching. It makes it easier for them to pound products into our mush-filled heads.

Sierra Mist anybody?

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 11, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

All of you are thinking like sports fans.. Not saying that is a bad thing, but you are forgetting the political climate. The USA has decreed that Honduras is now run by a "defacto" government. I live just 2 1/2 hours out of San Pedro Sula and this gringo is NOT going to show his face. It will be shown on local TV....

Posted by: expatyank | September 11, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

@expatyank

Good point!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 11, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

"The funny thing is that the HondurASS Federation actually thinks they will make money this way."

I don't understand comments like this or how they did this to somehow gain a competitive advantage.

Honduras already made their money, when they sold the rights.

Posted by: joe_hill | September 11, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

It is really about time USSF stood up for US fans.

They have to break out the big stick:

"Dear Honduran, Mexican or other FA, either sell US rights to a network our fans can watch at a fair price, or forget playing any lucrative friendlies in the US the next 5 years."

Posted by: LloydHeilbrunn | September 11, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I could care less about the USA in the world cup.

Posted by: boricuabopper | September 11, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse
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This comment validates your astounding intellect. Dempsey sucks and Rongren should be coach.

Heh, I actually laughed when I read that.

Posted by: dogboy | September 11, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm feeling your line of thinking LyodHeilbrunn.

Posted by: DadRyan | September 12, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Would anybody be surprised if the only Honduran motivation for this was to make it tougher for the citizens of this country to watch the game. Wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: croftonpost | September 11, 2009 4:37 PM

Again, what would be the point of that? Are they going to get some sort of extra home field advantage because Gary in Fairfax doesn't feel like spending $20 to watch it on TV?

Spite. Nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: croftonpost | September 12, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I am seriously outraged

Posted by: FreddieFreeIoader | September 14, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I live just outside Philadelphia and know just about every place in or near the City to watch soccer broadcasts including the ethnic clubs, although these days I can rely more on cable. As a youth coach I attended the January 1996 National Soccer Coaches Association of America (NSCAA) held in Philadelphia in January. The convention coincided with some of the 1996 Gold Cup tournament that was being played in Los Angeles. I remember being chagrined as I explained to a group of out-of-town coaches that there wasn't a single place in the City where they could watch the US-Brazil match that was part of that tournament.

Posted by: lmscdad | September 14, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

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