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WCQ Matchnight: USA-El Salvador

Greetings from Rio Tinto, the neat little stadium with the breathtaking view of the Wasatch Front. Warm, cloudy, breezy with a slight risk of rain. Salvadoran and USA supporters mixing in the adjacent parking lot, including the omnipresent Captain America superfan (whom I met at my hotel in Costa Rica in June).

The early indication is that, of the 24 players on the initial roster, Casey (tooth), DeMerit (groin), Onyewu (suspension), Findley, Goodson and Clark will not be in uniform. The starting lineup and reserves will be made available about 45 minutes before kickoff.

On a sour note, word is getting around that several Salvadoran players were robbed at the team hotel in Provo while they were at Rio Tinto training last night. Cash, laptops and iPods were missing. One Salvadoran reporter said the players are very upset and are having a hard time putting it behind them ahead of the match. An Insider source with ties to some of the players said former DCUer Eliseo Quintanilla lost more than $12,000 that he was bringing to his family from Cyprus, where he plays professionally.

Kickoff: 8:11 p.m. ET.
TV: ESPN Classic, Telefutura.
Announcers: JP Dellacamera, John Harkes.

[UPDATE] USA LINEUP: Howard; Spector, Marshall, Bocanegra, Bornstein; Dempsey, Bradley, Feilhaber, Donovan; Davies, Altidore. Subs: Guzan, Cherundolo, Rogers, Beckerman, Holden, Torres, Ching.

Your pregame, in-game and postgame thoughts are welcome. (There will be a separate thread for the DCU-Dallas match.)

By Steve Goff  |  September 5, 2009; 5:49 PM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , CONCACAF , U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

Come on, USA!!

Posted by: RedDevil1 | September 5, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

We are waiting outside the East gates to be let in. Goff, come over and open the gate for us....

Come on Yanks!!

Posted by: Steelewall | September 5, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

That is messed up...

Posted by: Reignking | September 5, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

That's terrible news about the Salvadoran players. I hope they find the culprits fast.

Before a game, how well known is the location of where a team stays?

Posted by: RedDevil1 | September 5, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

My regrets to the Salvadorans. That's inexcusable . . . clearly some breakdown in security. And ironic that this would happen in Utah, of all places.

So only 5 defenders on the roster tonight and Marshall has to be assured a spot. Who's the odd man out of the first XI? Bornstein or Spector?

I'm surprised to see Clark off the roster since I'd at least have expected him to be available as a late-game sub to protect a lead. But clearly the good news is that Bradley will be paired with a more attack/possession/not-getting-red-carded central midfielder.

Posted by: benonthehill | September 5, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they should pass a hat around at halftime if USSF hasn't already taken everybody's money. That's really too bad and I hope they find the thieves and get everything back.

Posted by: sitruc | September 5, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

for those of us in relatively backward parts of the country, lacking access to both ESPN Classic and Telefutura...

*pauses for the laughter to die down. thanks Mediacom...*

any links for tonight's match?

Posted by: BillUrban | September 5, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

US Soccer and sponsors dropped the ball. The East lawn outside of the stadium is usually packed with sponsor's tents, giveaways, and entertainment for regular season RSL games and even moreso for the All Star Game. But nothing today, only weathered Budweiser girls trolling the crowd. What a disappointment.

Posted by: Steelewall | September 5, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Robbed, or burglarized? I'm presuming the latter, needless to say.

Posted by: ChristopherMc | September 5, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

BillUrban:

I don't know if your internet provider gets it, but it looks like the game is going to be streaming on ESPN360; that's what I'm doing.

Posted by: MattinSilverSpring | September 5, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Clark not in the 18? That's a bit of a shock. Or am I missing something?

Posted by: SonicDeathMonkey | September 5, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

i like the lineup - anakin skywalker got the nod on the right, benny can continue his comeback and we get to see davies and altidore do the stanky legg together

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

No Cherundolo. That's really surprising, given his attacking instincts and adequate defending, for a game like this. And no Ching is even more surprising. Ok, I guess this is what we asked for, though I might prefer Spector on the left and Cherundolo on the right. Here goes nothing.

Posted by: benonthehill | September 5, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

i guess bb didn't want to lose his entire midfield to yellow card suspension in one night... rico, mb, 'cakes, and deuce are all one card away from missing the next game.

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Is this the "Fire Soehn" thread or the "Fire Bradley" one?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 5, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Bob Bradley got a lineup right!!!! I'm pleasantly floored!

Posted by: kdiff813 | September 5, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I-270:

Who says they can't combine to form one Super "Fire Our Coach" thread?

Posted by: kdiff813 | September 5, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Finally Altidore and Davies together w/Feilhaber in the middle. I like these changes except for Bornstein. I would have pushed Spector to the left, benched Dempsey for Holden, started Cherundolo at RB, and put Goodson on the bench for Rogers. With that said this is a very strong lineup IMHO. Good luck!

Posted by: no_recess | September 5, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Goff in Sandy, UT, Tenorio in Frisco, shootout on the game day BLOG?!?

Posted by: delantero | September 5, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

fire the coach threads are good for every sport and every team every time... but i think we need to take it to the next level. fire sorber! fire whoever will replace hackworth when he moves to the philly union!

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

It seems like someone knew not only where they were staying, but that for those players that play professionally elsewhere, that they would be bringing cash with them to send back with their families. It is a disgrace and a terrible shame. I hope they are apprehended and at least some of the money is recovered. I cannot imagine how devastating this is, not only for the players, but for the families who were counting on the financial help.

Posted by: HarkesyRules | September 5, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Favorite headline of the day .

"Keane hits 40 as Irish jig"

Posted by: delantero | September 5, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I really hope this Syracuse Indiana game doesn't run over . .

(and yes, I know it's from 1987, but it is ESPN)

Posted by: delantero | September 5, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Oy.

Posted by: B_A_ | September 5, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

i hope john harkes tells us about how the players could be playing better than they are. i like to be coached and told how soccer should be played.

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I like the lineup.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Who says they can't combine to form one Super "Fire Our Coach" thread?

===

How about "Fire All Coaches"?

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

someone teach donovan the words to the star spangled banner. i know he thinks he is being impassive and focused, but i think it looks like h*ll that he doesn't sing his own anthem.

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

If I hear the words "electric atmosphere" one more time, I'm gonna go up in smoke!

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

timmay and skywalker a little shaky there

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

apparently Marshall is guilty of being 6 feet tall. the ref seems to think that in itself is a foul.

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

card well deserved

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

sweet move benny! shame about the pass...

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey is not quite on...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey has been not quite on in a lot of games for the US in the last year.

Posted by: kacd | September 5, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Plenty of empty seats tonight. That's unfortunate.

Should be a two goal win though. Come on boys!

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

dallas just scored :-(

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

davies and donovan combine for an incredible amount of speed on the left

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

refs imposing their will - i guess we could go with the "we were both robbed" headline if this doesnt go our way

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Donovan very active early. Like to see that.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

No cross-posting DCU results, please? Some of us would like to watch the replay later...

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow awful bocanegra...

Posted by: Reignking | September 5, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

No cross-posting DCU results, please? Some of us would like to watch the replay later...

Posted by: mason08

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Reignking | September 5, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Good luck with that
===

I know. Just thought I'd ask.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

ive got usa on tv and dc illegally through the worldwide interwebs

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

no need for luck...i wont post dcu again. cant speak for the others though

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

ES is not good. They should not even sniff our goal in this game.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Come on Dempsey!

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Nice service by Davies. Playing very well in the last few months.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

harkes - davies was scoring goals in sweden too... lots of em

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

unless #4 from concacaf is mexico i dont think argentina will have trouble getting in even as #5 from conmebol.

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

brutal. 1-0.

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Zelaya goal. Howard caught in no man's land.

Posted by: Reignking | September 5, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow. That was on Bornstein. Very poor clearance into the center.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

The hell was that.

Clear the ball to touch!

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

...Where's the Maker's Mark?

Posted by: B_A_ | September 5, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Awful by Bornstein, but Howard...totally misread it.

Posted by: Reignking | September 5, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

My god, we look terrible right now.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

DAVIES!

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Davies nearly equalizes. Continues to be dangerous up front. He is very deserving of all the minutes he is getting lately.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Could we get that goal soon, so that we don't have to watch a whole lot of lying on the ground?

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

another spector-to-dempsey cross but put it over

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

jozy to davies cleared off the line! so excited to see them play together going forward

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

brazil scored - 1-0 over argentina

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

dempsey goal!!!

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

DEMPSEY!!

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey!!!

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey, finally!

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else was off. Dempsey was on.

That is a very solid call by the AR. Very solid.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Redemption for missed chances with a beautiful diving header in bottom corner. Nice service. Great finish.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

maradona has 60 minutes to manufacture a comeback against brazil and keep his job

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

we have had a tendency to let attackers sit about 15 yards outside the box. low percentage shots from that spot to be sure, but reasonable chances nonetheless. 1st goal from brazil, 1st from Mexico, and a couple dangerous opportunities in this game all from there. this is with different personnel in defense for us, so it has to be an intentional tactical decision. in any event, I don't like it.

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Bornstein beaten again on the left side. Rescued by Donovan.

ES would be smart to keep going at Bornstein. Clearly the weak link in the back...

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Argies fooling themselves with Maradona...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

ALTIDORE!

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

GOALTIDORE! STANKY LEGG

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

JOZY!! LANDON!!

M. BRADLEY with the work in the corner.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Forca Brasil! e festejemos nossa gol tambem! bem feito JOZY!

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Great goal. Donovan has been all over the field - best match from him in quite a while.

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

2-0 brazil, harkes calls it the crazylegs celebration

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

what was that, 15 seconds before time? hate to say it, but i'm used to us conceding goals in the last minute of a half. nice job fellas.

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Best service I can remember from the Nats since WC '02 at least. And that's not to take anything away from a couple classy finishes.

Posted by: benonthehill | September 5, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Very nice half from the Nats (aside from the ES goal). Good possession, good ideas (mostly), a little unlucky with final touches and shots. D looks a little shaky, but what can you expect with our semi-makeshift line? Now if we can just intimidate ES into folding in the second half...

Posted by: wichne | September 5, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I freaking love Charlie Davies and Jozy Altidore. Literally. My heart beats faster when I see them with the ball.

That is all.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | September 5, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Bornstein needs to give Tim Howard a box of chocolates after that "clearance."

Great work up top to get us ahead before the half. Donovan with the service today!

Posted by: mercurysnake77 | September 5, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

MattinSilverSpring:

watching on ESPN 360, you, Sir, are a genius...

Posted by: BillUrban | September 5, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Troy6-
The first goal against Brazil was from about 18 out, right at the top of the penalty area. The man was pretty tightly marked as well, but the shot just happened to go through our defender's legs.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm relieved. I thought that after the ES goal, they would sit back and fall down each time a US player came near.

Probably not enough 1st half stoppage time because the ref liked the sound of his whistle.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 5, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Feilhaber is clotheslined and no card.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 5, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Bradley's not afraid to shoot...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

How does Feilhaber get punched in the face and there is not even a card issued?

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

UST has stopped attacking...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Nice dive, Charlie.

That should have been a card.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Good news for Argentina - both Uruguay and Ecuador lost.

Aaaaand we get totally hosed there. Ay caramba.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

That should have been a goal. That's not even close. Not eve. close.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

That was an awful call. Clearly on sides. Not even close.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Wowwwwww

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | September 5, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

This ref is amazing. Doesn't play the advantage, doesn't allow 50-50 challenges, and makes up offside.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 5, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Where does FIFA get these clowns...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

he's completely onside.

hey mason, my memory may be faulty, but I dont recall the 1st brazil goal being tightly marked. i recall about ten yards outside the box and alone. but my memory is often faulty and i'll check youtube later.

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

This ref has no idea what is going on. Missed calls all over the field.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Arms in an unnatural position, taking away space, and moving toward the ball.

That's handling.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

adeus portugal! not gonna see the over-gelled brat in south africa...

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Between our shaky defending and the shaky officiating, this is starting to have "dropped points" written all over it.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Bradley looks tired out there and has been almost invisible. Will we see Beckerman or Holden?

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

dempsey with a pass to the keeper

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

SI vernacular:

shunning
argy-bargy
over egging the pudding

and now...a box of chocolates.

help me out folks; any more?

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Poor finishing by Dempsey. Should have chipped the keep on that.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Better get that 3rd goal b/c ES will be flopping whenever they get in the box...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Would it be too much for Borenstein to sprint back, then not keep backing up when the ES player is coming at him?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 5, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

A goal or two for the sake of differential would be nice.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | September 5, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

davies injured - bad news!

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Love watching Davies and his hustle. Could do without his diving though....

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Thought davies dove again, but I hope he isn't seriously hurt.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Feilhaber is so calm with the ball, but I wish he would show more interest on defense. ES still has way too much room to operate. No bunkering!

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I like this beckerman sub.

Wow, we have had like 10-15 ghastly passes this game. A better team would kill us on those.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

beckhamerman for benny

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Beckerman should be for Bradley. Benny has been far more productive tonight.

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

BB going more defensive with these subs. We'll see if it pays off...

Posted by: FrancoNiell | September 5, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Torres?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 5, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

brazil 2 - argies 1. datolo with a goal and there are 25 min left.

Posted by: MK27 | September 5, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

benny has been more useful, but he's taken some hard shots. perhaps that figured in.

wonder if they'll ever stop calling torres "gringo"?

Posted by: troy6 | September 5, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

3-1 Brazil...this game is amazing

Posted by: Southeasterner | September 5, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Bend it like Beckerman isn't looking so hot...

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Great save by ES GK.

And a nice header by Torres.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Seriously bornstein, WTF?

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Whew... I think we'll escape this one with three.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

A win is a win. Seriously though, need more ball possession from other than Donovan. On to T&T.

Posted by: tfshea | September 5, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

weak. scrambling like that against this crappy team. just weak.

Posted by: birdynumnum | September 5, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

More gooch will be very helpful on Wednesday. Can't wait.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I thought El Salvador was robbed until I read a post here and looked at the replay of Dempsey's goal. He was onside. The Spanish announcers didn't catch it either.

I thought there was too much added time in the first half giving the US their second goal also. I feel better now, except now I'm ticked at the Altidore call. I thought they were trying to make up for Dempsey's goal, but they were just doubly bad.

Posted by: united100 | September 5, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

The referee must be required to give an explanation for taking away the USA's third goal, and then as there is no explnation he should never ref a big game again. Do think a Honduran ref has a bit of a conflict of interest here?

Posted by: GeneWells | September 5, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

United 100-

There were only two additional minutes added to the first half, and he ES GK was down for significantly longer than that taking treatment. That's what happens when you start trying to play against the clock in the 30th minute.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Last time we take our boys up in Salt Lake. Their legs were gone - talk about your backfire.

This team could do and should do better against ES. Sorry but they are not that good.

Anyone who doubts whether Edgar Castillo can come onto this team and play, well ladies and gents I give you our best option tonight at LB.

Posted by: Kosh2 | September 5, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

This CRC-MEX game is going to devolve into a streetfight. The official is a bit overmatched.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

What struck me about this game was the number of U.S. turnovers in the midfield, especially by Bradley. Against a better team, they could've been costly. I'd like to see Stuart start along Heilfaber in the middle against T&T but of course that's not going to happen. Stuart had another strong game off the bench and is making a case for more playing time.

Bornstein, on the other hand, should return to the bench where he belongs. How did he get the start over Cherundolo?

Posted by: hudson22 | September 5, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

manson8 - where can I get play-by-play on-line? I don't have Telefutura.

Posted by: Kosh2 | September 5, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

CONCACAF officiating across the board is awful. I am watching the Costa Rica vs. Mexico match and the ref is letting both sides get away with really ugly challenges. It's worst than the MLS. FIFA really needs to step and take over at this point because this region is out of control!
I am glad that we should have won 3-1, but I will take the three points even though we were pathetic for the first and last 30 minutes of the match. I do not understand why Bradley's teams play like this against El Salvador.
I found out three things this match. One Bornstein does not belong on the this team. Next Beckerman does not belong. Finally Dempsey does not have the work rate to go a whole 90. It's too bad that Altidore is not 90 minutes fit.

Posted by: no_recess | September 5, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow -- huge goal by dos Santos, just before halftime. It is looking more likely that Costa Rica may still need points when they come to RFK. No easy matches for the USA.....

Posted by: fischy | September 5, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with no_recess. It pains me to say this, because I take great pride in the accomplishments of Jewish athletes, and it is especially difficult for me to say this about one who shares Mexican heritage with me...but Bornstein was just awful. He could scarcely have played a worse game. He almost cost us this game single-handedly by his timidity on defense and poor touches on the ball. I no longert have to feign a wait-and-see attitude with Edgar Castillo. When he gets his papers, the job must be his.

And, Beckerman was pretty awful, too, He might have been even worse than Bornstein, except that he was not on the field long enough to make as many bad plays. Because Beckerman is a local, it is also a particular personal disappointment to watch him flail around so badly. I had high hopes for both of these guys, but cannot see much of a role for either right now.

On the other hand, Torres looked pretty good. Not perfect, mind you. There were 2 bad turnovers -- one, a too ambitious pass, and the other sheer carelesness in letting the ball get stripped off his foot. But, e got up and down the field and made some great plays on defense. He may yet get a ticket to South Africa.

Posted by: fischy | September 5, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Agreed fischy-

Torres stepped in twice for nice tackles during stoppage time. More importantly, he was in the right place.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Ref was on the cut, man!!!

Seriously, how else can you explain those calls?

Sad to see us not control the ball for the last 30 minutes and give up some quality, albeit sparse, chances. I expected more.

Still, 2-1 is 3 in the bank.

Posted by: delantero | September 5, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

""because I take great pride in the accomplishments of Jewish athletes""

Kofax and (?) . . . help me out here, and you can't count John Stewart playing for William and Mary soccer!

By the way go I-AA!! Tribe beat Virginia, Richmond beats Duke, and Northern Iowa almost upsets the #22 team in the country.

Posted by: delantero | September 5, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Mexico with an orgasmically good counter finished by Franco to take a 2-0 with 25 or so minutes to play in Costa Rica

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | September 5, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Kofax and (?) . . . help me out here, and you can't count John Stewart playing for William and Mary soccer!

===

Shawn Green.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Hank Greenberg.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Fixed your post...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | September 5, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and it's on. My Brother and I will be in RFK for USA-Costa Rica on the 14th.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | September 5, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey, what about Ryan Braun? They call him the Hebrew Hammer...

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | September 5, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Come on, man!!

Shawn Green was the only guy on Dodgers teams during that period that was:
A) Good.
B) Decent.
C) Obviously not on steroids.

Posted by: mason08 | September 5, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

So Mexico is back. The T&T game is huge now and the game at Honduras will be crucial. It's gonna be a scrum.

As for the Jewish question, really you're still stuck on Koufax? Benny feilhaber is Jewish. In baseball right now you've got Ryan Braun, Kevin youkilis and Ian Kinsler as all- stars. Mark Spitz anyone?

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | September 5, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

@mason: Hank Greenberg has a plaque in Cooperstown. The only way Shawn Green (and I worked for the Dodgers for a while while Greenie was there) will get into Cooperstown is by driving in and buying a ticket. :)

(ob. soccer: if Kenny does really well at 1860, can we start calling Munich "Cooper's Town"?)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | September 5, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

You guys forgetting Jeff Agoos?

Posted by: bechtoldpk | September 6, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Wow -- huge goal by dos Santos, just before halftime. It is looking more likely that Costa Rica may still need points when they come to RFK. No easy matches for the USA.....

Posted by: fischy | September 5, 2009 10:50 PM
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Given the virtual four-way tie, you could just as well have said that the USA may still need points when they come to RFK.

Posted by: universityandpark | September 6, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

RE: CONCACAF refereeing:

"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown."

Posted by: Lucius2 | September 6, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: universityandpark | September 6, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Hondurans go up another point on us in Goal dif. becuase of phantom calls by... a HONDURAN REF WHOA someone call the scooby gang we got a mystery!

Oh wait, nope, just the usual corruption.

Posted by: AshburnUnited | September 6, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

You guys want a current list: Soccer -- Benny Feilhaber, Jonathan Bornstein, Zac MacMath, among others. Also Yossi Benayoun. Baseball: Ryan Braun, Kevin Youkilis, Ian Kinsler, Jason Marquis, Scott Feldman, Kevin Grabow, (each of whom was an all-star within the last 2 years, or played for Team USA, or, will be an All-Star (Feldman), among others....

Posted by: fischy | September 6, 2009 2:01 AM | Report abuse

$12000 in cash??? Are there not limits at customs?
And Q2 could not have "wired" the money? Or maybe brought a cashiers check?
Come on, it's hard to feel too sorry for people that won't learn the lessons that so many before have learned.
That said, it is unfortunate and smells of "insider" involvement.

Posted by: marksman37 | September 6, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey fischy: Do you have a copy of that light reading material from the movie Airplane? :-)

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 6, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

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