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Davies in Serious Accident

By Steven Goff
Washington Post Staff Writer
Charlie Davies, a starting forward for the U.S. national soccer team, underwent several hours of surgery for non-life threatening injuries suffered in a fatal auto accident early Tuesday on the George Washington Memorial Parkway in Virginia, the U.S. Soccer Federation said.
Details of the surgery were not made available, but a USSF spokesman said the injuries were "possibly" career-threatening. No other players were in the vehicle, the USSF said.
The USSF later clarified its statement about Davies's future, saying it is unclear at the moment how the injuries will impact his career.
The one-car accident occurred around 3:15 a.m. on the southbound lanes of the parkway near the Memorial Bridge, which links Arlington with Washington. A park police spokesman told reporters that the driver apparently lost control of the vehicle and struck a metal railing. Ashley J. Roberta, 22, from Phoenix, Md., died at the scene.
It is unclear whether Davies was the driver or one of two passengers. [UPDATE] However, the USSF was told by police that Davies was not driving.
"The car was pretty much split in half," David Schlosser, a park police spokesman, told The Post.
The team learned of the accident late in the morning. Breakfast was optional for the players, so when Davies did not appear, there was no concern. No official team functions were scheduled until lunch. Coach Bob Bradley addressed the players in a meeting room at the team hotel in Pentagon City.
The U.S. team is in town for a World Cup qualifier Wednesday night at RFK Stadium against Costa Rica. The Americans clinched a Cup berth Saturday night in Honduras and has been based in Washington since Sunday.
Davies, 23, is in his first season with French club Sochaux. He assisted on Conor Casey's first goal in the 3-2 victory in Honduras before being replaced late in the match. Davies, a native of Manchester, N.H., played at Boston College before turning pro after the 2006 season and signing with Hammarby in Sweden.
For the national team, he has four goals in 17 appearances and played an integral part in the Americans' run to the Confederations Cup title game this past summer.
"As a team, we were saddened to learn this news," Bradley said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with Charlie and Charlie's family as well as the others involved. ... It hit us all hard."
Players typically have a curfew during national team duty, but it's unclear whether one was in place this week since the team had clinched a World Cup berth. [UPDATE: He did violate a curfew.]

By Steve Goff  |  October 13, 2009; 3:35 PM ET
Categories:  U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

Oh gosh. My prayers go out to Charlie as well as anyone else hurt or killed in this accident.

Posted by: Hobes | October 13, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

What awful news. The young woman's family is in our prayers, as is a speedy recovery for both Charlie and the other occupant.

Posted by: ComoPark | October 13, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Not a good situation for anybody.

Posted by: redskinsux | October 13, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like possible drunk driving.
Davies will probably have months of rehab to replay that night.

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

WOW! I saw the sign on 66 this morning that said "accident on GW" - I figured it was a fender bender...not this!

Posted by: nairbsod | October 13, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Warmest wishes, Charlie.

Posted by: KireDCU | October 13, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to come off as preachy - but this is definitely one of the better behaved comment areas on the Post site. Let's not get involved with speculation or poor taste. A young woman has died. Steve will update us as soon as he can with more confirmed facts.

Posted by: Kev29 | October 13, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Thoughts are with the family of the deceased. Stay strong Davies, make it back to the pitch.

Posted by: rosslyn1 | October 13, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Yikes... Looks like they had to cut the car in half to extricate the occupants. I haven't seen something like that since I drove past a Moose v. Car up in Maine.

Suck.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Get Well Davies

Posted by: Norteno4life | October 13, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Well let's all just hope your wild speculation is not borne out by the facts. There's not any indication that Davies was even driving.


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Sounds like possible drunk driving.
Davies will probably have months of rehab to replay that night.

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: HowdyDCU | October 13, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Charlie - please get well - what were you doing out at 3:15AM!!!

Hope to see you pounding in goals again soon!

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | October 13, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

wow...

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | October 13, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Yikes... Looks like they had to cut the car in half to extricate the occupants. I haven't seen something like that since I drove past a Moose v. Car up in Maine.

Suck.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

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Every report I have read said the accident cut the car in half, not the rescue. Makes you thankful this did not end up as a triple fatality.

Thoughts and prayers to the family of the one killed, the survivors and their family.

Don't start speculating about things like drunk driving, etc. I knew two people killed in an accident on 95 once where headlines trumpeted the cause of alcohol, but hardly anyone wrote anything when the drive came back with nothing in his system. They are called accidents for a reason.

Posted by: beach3 | October 13, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Terrible news...I hope he's ok :-(

Posted by: leetn | October 13, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Sainte merde!!!!! Get well, Charlie!

Posted by: bs2004 | October 13, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The GW Parkway is a VERY tricky road to maneuever, even if you're doing the speed limit. It's possible these folks weren't familiar with it. I've almost wiped out myself several times and I've driven that road hundreds of times...

Posted by: eldiablo | October 13, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Every report I have read said the accident cut the car in half, not the rescue. Makes you thankful this did not end up as a triple fatality.

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Short story: Reporters are dumb. Goff excluded, of couse.

Long Story: Reporters are lazy and report what they see. They see a wrecked car going by in two pieces after an accident and they report that the wreck ripped it in two. They don't ask the rescue personnel, "Did you rip that in half, or did the wreck itself?"

I've yet to see a statement attributed to law enforcement or rescue personnel stating that the car was ripped in half by the crash. Until then, the much simpler answer is that the car was jacked up to the point that the only way to get people out was to cut them out. Ripping a car in half in a wreck with two out of three survivors is hard to do. Ripping it apart after the wreck with extrication tools is much easier.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

We are going to the game tomorrow night at RFK Stadium. Get well Charlie and R.I.P. to your fellow passenger.

Posted by: andrewgerst@hotmail.com | October 13, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Occam's Razor?

It matters not how the car was torn into 2 pieces. What's important is that the survivors regain full health, and the perished are appropriately mourned.

Posted by: DCU_Rick | October 13, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

My deepest condolences to family of the young lady whose life was taken in this most horrific accident. They are in my thoughts and prayers. As are the occupants of the car and their families.

We are with you Charlie and best wishes to you for a full and speedy recovery.

So many young lives in such a nightmerish incident. So many other lives impacted. A sad day. A very sad day, indeed.

Posted by: Kosh2 | October 13, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

His career might be over. WOW that's a blow to us all. Condolences to everyone involved. HE was our best finisher. Back to square one with no speed up top...I am in shock.

Posted by: alan19 | October 13, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Short story: Reporters are dumb. Goff excluded, of couse.

Long Story: Reporters are lazy and report what they see. They see a wrecked car going by in two pieces after an accident and they report that the wreck ripped it in two. They don't ask the rescue personnel, "Did you rip that in half, or did the wreck itself?"

I've yet to see a statement attributed to law enforcement or rescue personnel stating that the car was ripped in half by the crash. Until then, the much simpler answer is that the car was jacked up to the point that the only way to get people out was to cut them out. Ripping a car in half in a wreck with two out of three survivors is hard to do. Ripping it apart after the wreck with extrication tools is much easier.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

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"Sgt. David Schlosser, a U.S. Park Police spokesman, said three people were inside the vehicle that crashed into a metal guard rail that lines the parkway where it crosses over Boundary Channel.

One of the three was pronounced dead immediately after the 3:15 a.m. collision, and the two others were taken to a hospital with serious injuries.

"The car was pretty much split in half," Schlosser said."

I think the Park Police saying the car was split in half qualifies.

Posted by: beach3 | October 13, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Wild speculation?

That's common sense.

3.15 .... right after the bars in DC close.

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Well let's all just hope your wild speculation is not borne out by the facts. There's not any indication that Davies was even driving.


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Sounds like possible drunk driving.
Davies will probably have months of rehab to replay that night.

Posted by: arswift24 | October 13, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if he or anyone he was with were drinking or completely sober...What the hell was he doing on the GW parkway at 3:15am?!?!? He has a game on Wednesday to prepare for, regardless of whether he was drinking, staying up till close to 4 am wouldn't be acceptable behavior.

Posted by: kidtwistdill | October 13, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

kid,

Thank you! Voice of reason!

Posted by: arswift24 | October 13, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

kid...arswift24. You are missing the point. Right now, what matters is that a young woman died, and two other individuals' lives have been forever changed. Culpability or responsibility can be assigned (as I am sure it will be) later. Right now, it's about a life lost and two others that were almost lost. How or why, especially without the facts, feels like it should be irrelevant right now.

Posted by: TwinCity | October 13, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

What Kev29 said.

This is a blog and is usually a fun place for saying whatever you want. I have no problem with that. I'm not trying to regulate what people are saying as we are all hit hard by this news and people have different ways opf dealing with stuff like this. But a young woman has died and two other people could be fighting for their lives right now (literally and figuratively). There will be plenty of time for speculation and blame, maybe now's just not that time.

Posted by: Kosh2 | October 13, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Who was the 3rd person in the car please don't be another member of the US team!!??

Posted by: DonDaviAudi | October 13, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the real problem here isn't the dead woman or the injured passengers, it's that people were staying up too late, and that our national team has an injured forward. Yup, those are massive problems compared to lives lost or permanently damaged.

Sometimes I hate the internet.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | October 13, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

From an Ives commenter:

"I know everyone is concerned about speculating, and the info is out about the friend of Alecko, so let me add that from people who are friends with the woman, there was definitely alcohol involved and Davies was not driving. This whole thing is horrible and really just sucked the air out of me today."

Posted by: arswift24 | October 13, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Here is the official US Soccer statement:
http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Mens-National-Team/2009/10/Charlie-Davies-Statement.aspx

I believe Grant Wahl reported on Twitter that the third person was NOT another player. Let me see if I can go find that.

Posted by: isaac101 | October 13, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"Sgt. David Schlosser, a U.S. Park Police spokesman, said three people were inside the vehicle that crashed into a metal guard rail that lines the parkway where it crosses over Boundary Channel.

One of the three was pronounced dead immediately after the 3:15 a.m. collision, and the two others were taken to a hospital with serious injuries.

"The car was pretty much split in half," Schlosser said."

There's your law enforcement attribution about the impact's effect on the SUV.

The midnight curfew was in effect last night. Charlie missed it.

Posted by: pksintheusa | October 13, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

@DonDaviAudi: US Soccer confirmed earlier the 3rd person isn't a US player...

Posted by: MBUSA | October 13, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Too bad so sad. Soccer is somewhat of a gay sport anyways.

Posted by: hogfarmer55 | October 13, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

he was in the SUV with two women he met while out last night. one of the women is dead.

Posted by: pksintheusa | October 13, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

@hogfarmer55,

Wow.

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | October 13, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if he or anyone he was with were drinking or completely sober...What the hell was he doing on the GW parkway at 3:15am?!?!? He has a game on Wednesday to prepare for, regardless of whether he was drinking, staying up till close to 4 am wouldn't be acceptable behavior.

Posted by: kidtwistdill | October 13, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Sorry about the re-post..Internet can do that...

I wasn't passing judgment, assigning blame, or trivializing a horrible situation. Based on the limited facts we know, and only concerning Charlie Davies, he should not have been out at 3:15 in the morning. Irregardless of drinking or what not.

Whether they were drinking, not drinking, being completely innocent, or helping a cat from a tree, we know a young man should not have been in that car at the time.

Posted by: kidtwistdill | October 13, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

No word on the types of injuries suffered? I mean, a 5 hour surgery is nothing to sneeze at.

Posted by: delantero | October 13, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

@kidtwistdill: your indignation and self-righteous anger is perfectly understandable. After all, it's all about you, of course, and you lost so much in this accident.

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | October 13, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

GW parkway is a nightmare at any time.
Hope he is ok; things can change in a flash.

Posted by: hacksaw | October 13, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

That's what I am waiting to here. Not to be again accused of speculating, but injuries that are immediately described as non-life threatening, but potentially career ending (and the duration of the surgery) would suggest that it is isolated to a limb. Again, that's just wild speculation with a touch of logic thrown in.

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No word on the types of injuries suffered? I mean, a 5 hour surgery is nothing to sneeze at.

Posted by: delantero

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

based on the comments from Alecko and that he is friended on her page, this might be her

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ashley-Roberta/9417379

Posted by: Section107 | October 13, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

we know a young man should not have been in that car at the time.

Posted by: kidtwistdill

Young, semi-famous, athletic, got some money...he should be in his hotel watching Dancing with the Stars.

Posted by: Reignking | October 13, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"I guess we're all one phone call from our knees"

Matt Kearney, Closer to Love.

Posted by: OWNTF | October 13, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

She was cute.

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Your wild speculation is unfounded -- USSF has retracted the "possibly career-threatening" portion.

Posted by: Reignking | October 13, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

he should not have been out at 3:15 in the morning. Irregardless of drinking or what not.

"Irregardless" is a redundant, stupid word. Regardless, it's his right to stay out if he wants as late as he wants if there was not a curfew and the driver was not drinking. My thoughts are with the girl's family and with the two survivors. So sad.

Posted by: davidsbNC | October 13, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected.
That's good news.

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Beach-
Saw that, but ask yourself this: how is a car "pretty much split"? It is, or it ain't. This one was broken to the point that the most expeditious way of getting people out was to cut it all the way.

Looking at the photos, there appears to be minimal impact damage to the front, rear, and left side. Hard to tell about the roof because it's not there. Shorn away in the crash? Rolled over? Extrication damage? Don't know. The right side appears to have intruded significantly into the passenger compartment from the A-pillar back to at least the C-pillar. This is consistent with a vehicle striking a fixed object between the A and B-pillars at a large acute angle to the direction of travel while moving at a good speed.

Driver/passengers were probably arranged: {driver, front passenger, center/left rear} or {driver, right-rear, center/left rear}. The front-seat or right-rear passenger was probably the one killed. The left/center rear passenger probably suffered lower extremity injuries due to incursion. The driver probably suffered upper body injuries for the same reason.

It's possible that d/p were arranged {driver, front passenger, right rear}. Victims in crashes like these have been known to be shoved across the passenger compartment by the force of the intrusion when not belted, or even sometimes when belted. Type and severity of injuries in these cases are mixed. It all depends on how the car crushes, body position and movement, etc...

Slow down, everyone.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

While leaving the Reagan National on our way home yesterday my father in law was asking us to describe the difference between driving in Hawaii and driving around DC. I think we came up with something along the lines of it being far less stressful than driving around here... referring to the GW Parkway, which is a total pain in the arse for someone who's familiar with it.

It's crazy to me that less than 13 hours later this accident happened in the same area. My goodness.

My families thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved.
I hope Charlie can make it back to playing football someday.

Posted by: DadRyan | October 13, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

[UPDATE] The USSF clarified the statement about Davies's future, saying it is unclear at the moment how the injuries will impact his career.

Not quite a retraction.

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

only one thing to do, pray.

Posted by: adamsunited | October 13, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I meant my family's, and pighumper55 go rot in hell with your garbage throwball team.

Posted by: DadRyan | October 13, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Awwww man. :(

This is sad, I hope he can still have a career after this, but the death of that poor girl will haunt him forever.

I feel for the guy, even if he was in the wrong being out so late, at 23 you still are in that have fun mentality, and given that the game is on wednesday he probably thought he could get a little DC' Partying in. :(

Posted by: BolivianDCFan | October 13, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, show some class. Say your condolences and move on to another blog.

Posted by: Lucius2 | October 13, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

It's already on his wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Davies

Posted by: spikeman | October 13, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Alecko has some seriously tragic events in his life, first Nicole, now Ashley. condolences to him as well.

Posted by: Section107 | October 13, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I would not say this it is self-righteous or indignant to say all three people in that car most likely made a bad decision. Accidents happen, and a terrible tragedy occurred, but that has nothing to do with whether this type of situation could (or better should) have been avoided.

We know from USNT sources a curfew of midnight was in effect and Davies broke it. I hope to god he is okay and has not suffered any life altering injuries.

Posted by: kidtwistdill | October 13, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, show some class. Say your condolences and move on to another blog.
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Don't tell people how to cope.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

"but potentially career ending (and the duration of the surgery) would suggest that it is isolated to a limb.""

Bowel surgery could easily be that long to or multiple injuries requiring different surgeries and/or specialities. It's all speculation really. Either way you cut it . . 5 hours of surgery, unless it's liposuction and a boob job . . isn't a great sign.

Posted by: delantero | October 13, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Man, some of the best times in my life were at the wee hours of the morning. Ever been to NYC . . college . . Argentina? Most of these places don't get going until midnight.

Posted by: delantero | October 13, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Del-
FWIW... Goff tweeted that it was lower extremity and internal injuries.

Makes sense, since there's three impacts in a car crash.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who will start up top in the game tomorrow?

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I'd guess Casey and Altidore

Posted by: warthog | October 13, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Harkes on ESPNews now. Saying that there are many rumors.

Someone told him it is a tibia and fibia break, and other injuries. But that is not confirmed.

Posted by: isaac101 | October 13, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

That's what i figured. Just seems like a mismatch to me.

Posted by: Puddleglum1 | October 13, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

He is out of surgery (Wahl).

Posted by: Reignking | October 13, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Lead story on 6 pm SportsCenter.

No new info. Had clips of Bob Bradley press conference. Some shots of the team during training at RFK.

Interview with Alexi Lalas. "Players not commenting." Mostly a discussion about Davies as a player. Lalas reports he is out of surgery now.

Segment was 5 minutes long.

Posted by: isaac101 | October 13, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Alecko has some seriously tragic events in his life, first Nicole, now Ashley. condolences to him as well.

Posted by: Section107 | October 13, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse
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Huh??? Please explain.... and just found a picture of the girl, she was very pretty. Very sad. :(

Posted by: BolivianDCFan | October 13, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Is it fair to say that if you didn't find her subjectively pretty that it would be just as sad?

Posted by: TwinCity | October 13, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I think the girl was Charlie's girlfriend.

Posted by: kb_09 | October 13, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

kb_09. No it wasn't. Don't spread that crap.

Posted by: TwinCity | October 13, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

davies had hamstring issue. wasn't likely to play tomorrow. may be why he stayed out late and missed curfew.

Posted by: pksintheusa | October 13, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it definitley WASNT charlies girlfriend, many reports are saying he was with two girls he met in DC, and of the girls has mutual friends with Alecko, he even states on his twitter "Just to clarify, I didn't know Ashley well, just had mutual friends in the DC area. My prayers and yours should be w her family and Charlie." So people that are spreading false info about this incident should stop.

Posted by: DCUHitman | October 13, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

davies' girlfriend had just flown back to france. she was not in the car.

Posted by: pksintheusa | October 13, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Is it fair to say that if you didn't find her subjectively pretty that it would be just as sad?

Posted by: TwinCity | October 13, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse
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Chill out with teh PC talk ok. Thanks

Posted by: BolivianDCFan | October 13, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Easy BolivianDCFan. You don't need to get defensive because you realized you messed up.

Posted by: TwinCity | October 13, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

my bad. they looked a like.

Posted by: kb_09 | October 13, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

We need updates! What has happened? What is the prognosis? It seems Grant Wahl has the fastest updates on Davies status...

Posted by: alan19 | October 13, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Beach-
Saw that, but ask yourself this: how is a car "pretty much split"? It is, or it ain't. This one was broken to the point that the most expeditious way of getting people out was to cut it all the way.

Looking at the photos, there appears to be minimal impact damage to the front, rear, and left side. Hard to tell about the roof because it's not there. Shorn away in the crash? Rolled over? Extrication damage? Don't know. The right side appears to have intruded significantly into the passenger compartment from the A-pillar back to at least the C-pillar. This is consistent with a vehicle striking a fixed object between the A and B-pillars at a large acute angle to the direction of travel while moving at a good speed.

Driver/passengers were probably arranged: {driver, front passenger, center/left rear} or {driver, right-rear, center/left rear}. The front-seat or right-rear passenger was probably the one killed. The left/center rear passenger probably suffered lower extremity injuries due to incursion. The driver probably suffered upper body injuries for the same reason.

It's possible that d/p were arranged {driver, front passenger, right rear}. Victims in crashes like these have been known to be shoved across the passenger compartment by the force of the intrusion when not belted, or even sometimes when belted. Type and severity of injuries in these cases are mixed. It all depends on how the car crushes, body position and movement, etc...

Slow down, everyone.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

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You're right, I'm gonna take the word of a dude on the Internet who saw some pictures - no matter how amazing your credentials are, that's still what you are - over a quote from a Park Police spokesman who undoubtedly talked to the people at the scene.

We have no comment about extrication. We have one comment on the damage to the vehicle. Yes, reporters can get stuff wrong, but I see no reason to pick the pepper out of the fly kaka just to prove you have some base of knowledge when we have someone actually commenting on the situation with knowledge of it.

Either way, it was a horrible accident. We're duly impressed by your analysis of it, but this is not the time or place to prove you know more than the facts we have been given by the people actually involved in the situation.

Posted by: beach3 | October 13, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

What's weird is that I just saw a gruesome video on car crashes in my health class this morning. When I heard what happened I just had all these awful images in my head. My prayers go out to Charlie and the woman's family.

Posted by: spikeman | October 13, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Easy BolivianDCFan. You don't need to get defensive because you realized you messed up.

Posted by: TwinCity | October 13, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse
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I dont want to go any further, as I feel this is a touchy subject(and because of the respect i have for this blog and people who respond here), but please stop trying to push your PC views on others.

Posted by: BolivianDCFan | October 13, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Why are you out at 3:00 am?

Posted by: GeneWells | October 13, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

This is the bad, bad news. But at least he is alive.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | October 13, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Either way, it was a horrible accident. We're duly impressed by your analysis of it, but this is not the time or place to prove you know more than the facts we have been given by the people actually involved in the situation.

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Look, man... Does it piss you off that I supposed leg injuries before that was out? All I did was look at the photos and the statements. The rest is physics, engineering, and having been around a car crash or two. Anybody could have done it.

Let me make this clear: it's not a judgement by me. Accidents happen. They happen to the canonized and the cad. They're acutely and chronically traumatic to the victims and those around them. The best we can do is bury the dead, treat the survivors, console the survived, and figure out why they happened to prevent them in the future.

More lights on the GWP would be a start.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Most of us were young and reckless and most of us made it home to the privilege of dying old and gray in our beds.

My condolences to the friends and family of those that will not. To Charlie and his companion I wish an speedy recovery of your bodies, and a mending of your minds. Get well and return to us when you can.

Posted by: DCU-ATL | October 13, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

"…but please stop trying to push your PC views on others."
Posted by: BolivianDCFan | October 13, 2009 7:11 PM
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Anyone expressing any opinion could be considered "pushing views" onto others, whether it is "PC talk" or the opposite. We are all "pushers," including you, Bolivian.

That said, the seriousness of the event in question warrants a conscientious effort to be decent. Sure, the internet is a cesspool and people have the right to say crude things and indulge in the kind of stupidness that could only be a product of anonymity. They can make assumptions, hypothesize, moralize, etc. More importantly, they can access public forums and find a steady audience to stumble across their published thoughts.

No, you don't have to be "PC" and you don't have to check yourself when commenting on the relative tragedy of a "pretty" girl dying in an accident. (I'm sure you meant nothing by that comment, although it didn't come off terribly well. And, for what it's worth, your post was hardly the least considerate on this thread.) But what I would consider the most appropriate and worthwhile response to the news today came from one of the first posters:

"What awful news. The young woman's family is in our prayers, as is a speedy recovery for both Charlie and the other occupant.

Posted by: ComoPark | October 13, 2009 3:40 PM"

That about sums up everything worth saying.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | October 13, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree with that mr long fellow.

All should be in everyones thoughts or prayers.

It just is really crazy when you put a face to a name. Thats all I really meant.

Posted by: BolivianDCFan | October 13, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

STFU

Posted by: fischy | October 13, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

"Irregardless" is a redundant, stupid word.
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You can find it in Webster, and OED.

Posted by: Alisterio | October 13, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm....wow...tragic, especially for the young lady and her family. So sad.
Please guys - grow up. This isn't abouot you.

Posted by: marksman37 | October 13, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CYork1 | October 13, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's an urban dictionary link for all of you:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=syfph

OK? None of us have anything worthwhile to add to a tragic story and an infantile discussion, so just keep it to yourselves.

Posted by: fischy | October 13, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Goff on Twitter:

Confirmed: Tibia and femur fractures in right leg. Also lacerated bladder, facial fractures and elbow fracture.

Posted by: isaac101 | October 13, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Grant Wahl adds (twitter):

Davies hospitalized at least 1 week. Added surgery will be required for left elbow, possibly facial fractures.

USSF: Titanium rods inserted in Charlie Davies' right femur/tibia.

Posted by: isaac101 | October 13, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

More from Wahl:

USSF doc: Davies' injuries usually require 6-12 months recovery & long rehab. Due to CD fitness, chance to play hi level again improved.

Posted by: isaac101 | October 13, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Driving on the GW Parkway is a nightmare? Are you kidding? I drove it almost every weekday for 7 years with no problems. It is one of the most beautiful parkways in the United States, but when driven at normal speeds (50 to 75 mph), is no nightmare. 90mph and drunk - maybe. I drove 90mph for a short stretch southbound just before the Key Bridge at 1am once. Still no problems.

Posted by: united100 | October 13, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Fischy-
You're normally very reasonable, but stop projecting your morosity. You seem to be expecting everyone else to feel the way you feel and react the way you're acting. Execting similar reactions from dissimilar people is a bit unreasonable, no?

For my part, I have nothing more to say on this. My speculation on the nature and mechanisms of injury (based on public information) has, thus far, been correct. It brings me no joy. Car crashes never have.

Slow down and stay safe.

Posted by: mason08 | October 13, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

@fischy -

I don't know if you're even going to read this at this point, but I did want to respond to your mocking my posting the urban dictionary link. Let me first say that I read this blog much more often than I comment and I normally agree with 90% of your posts. All I was doing by posting the urban dictionary link for "irregardless" was trying to lighten the mood. Clearly, Davies' accident was horrific and terribly unfortunate for him and for all involved, especially the girl who died and her friends and family. The fact that I chose not to comment on the accident does not mean that I am not in support of Davies' full recovery, or that I somehow missed the seriousness of the issue and subsequent conversation on this blog. I simply felt that enough had already been said, and my commenting that I feel for everyone involved would have been a bit redundant. I noticed the side conversation about irregardless, which I hate as a word, and decided to put in my two cents. Clearly you were quite emotional about the accident, more so than I was. However, the fact that I posted something off topic to the thread's subject does not mean that I am infantile and without a heart. I, too, wish for Davies' quick recovery. Obviously I feel for the girl's family who died, and for the other person in the car. Let's just try to realize that we all have our own perspectives. I don't think I said anything rude, discourteous, or ignorant about the Davies situation, I simply responded to another "infantile" poster.

Posted by: CYork1 | October 14, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

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