Matchnight #30 - United at Kansas City

CSN+? Great. Up yours, FiOS.

spidergoose, isn't CSN+ channel 1 on your FIOS, or was that a joke earlier universityandpark?

Spider goose, fios has the Direct kick package. channels 1495 - 1499.

It's channel 1 on FIOS here in Springfield. Thanks Verizon!

And ay yo! Pauly! Good lookin' on the BBQ talk my man! Enjoy yourself. The stadium looks a little bunk for the press, but maybe there's tons of fun to be had over at Dave and Buster's after the match?
Vamos United!

Paul - as a native Memphian I have to tell you, I believe you've made a mistake. KC has mastered the art of beef BBQ, but nothing in the world can beat a pulled pork sandwich from Memphis.

Guide to finding CSN+

http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/plus

The game will be on CSN+ but right after the Caps game on Comcast SportsNet it'll be joined in-progress...

i get csn+, but the guide says they are having "book chat" this evening. i sure hope that's wrong.

"DCU Starting Lineup: Cronin; James, Burch, Jakovic, Wallace; Fred, Gomez, Szetela, Simms; Emilio, Pontius"

Wow. I will with hold other comments, but isn't this the 40th different lineup this season?

troy6, we're watching over at Rich's... That is if the match is on Channel 1 as reported. If not I'm marching back across the street to my house to watch on my computer. If for some reason you really don't have access I'm sure you'd be welcome round these parts.

much obliged, DR. I may be frantically speeding through N. Arl streets a few minutes after 8:30.

Red Bulls - 1 Toronto - 0

Not a bad start.

Breaking out the original Wings Down jersey tonight . . it has served us well in the past.

give me a call if you need help finding your way back to our little slice of paradise...

2-0 red bulls. goal by JPA.

I ♡ NY

So szetela who has barely been involved all season gets the start?? What the hell is going on and I'm at a loss for words about all the different lineups all season... Soehn has lost his mind

WOW! NY is playing for Giant Stadium glory! 2nil! I am calling Emilio plays the game of his life.

Anyone with Dish Network, the game is on channel 448 (it took us awhile to find it!)

Since I can't officially cheer for the Metropukes, go Richie Williams! Go Petke (even though you were injured and pulled)!!

TFC can't even blame the turf since they play on it all the time.

I assume we'll see some 4-4-2 with Wallace, Simms, and Fred cycling back. Worked well against LA's strong (right) side.

I love that Toronto is choking. Let's just hope the same thing doesn't happen to us.

unable to find a working link on channelsurfing.net, anyone more digitally aware than i help a brother out?

Lol back to a 3-5-2. Were doomed already

No channel 1 here in annapolis. As in, there's no channel there.

The camera work is really bad. I feel like I'm watching a high school broadcast.

The United need to fix the sound, I can't be expected to listen to thiscrap.

Anyone have a link to a P2P site that has tonight's match?

Oh Gomito! :/

TFC = choke.
gomez = choke.

Gomito! Creates a lovely opportunity inside the box after making it through two defenders, but shoots wide to the right with his left foot.

Anyone have a link to a P2P site that has tonight's match?

Posted by: billindmd | October 24, 2009 8:48 PM

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http://atdhe.net/10074/watch-kansas-city-wizards-vs-dc-united

Damn! Off the post!!!

Hey - Burch just used his right foot! Amazing...

Julius James hits the woodwork off Gomez' corner kick! C'mon United -- you're gonna give me cardiac arrest if you don't score!

that's what happens when you don't cash in your golden chances

oh crap

Gracias, @princebuster21 I found the game through channelsurfing.net

soccer is so, so cruel.

The United give up a header to the guy with the worst hair in MLB.

1 - 0 KC, wallace was beaten on a free kick by a parakeet wearing a wizards uniform.

dunno...looked like an own goal by wallace to me.

If Wallace can't mark Kei Kamara, I think there's no need to mention any future prospects with the US men's team (or Costa Rica, for that matter)

Gomez injured; Moreno in [40th minute]

it may not matter, but TFC down 3-0.

i guess it isn't only "white men can't jump". jeez, rodney, what's with the lack of vertical?

Jimmy Conrad's not starting for Kansas City? Since he was in the recent USMNT camp, I assume that he's in good shape to play...

If we get the help nut not the points, that will speak volumes.

a third great opportunity wasted...argh! wife has left the room for fear that I am losing my mind.

Only 45 more minutes with Tom Soehn as the head coach??

RSL up 1-0 over the Rapids

Come on United!!

can we leave emilio at the airport?

Great to see the Special One banner made by a Wizards supporter.

NY 4 TFC 0. RSL 1 COL 0 at the 18th minute.

And we are losing?!? It's called a silver platter, just finish it!

Gomez, thanks for one great year. Adios!

Moreno, let's show some magic in the second half.

Got to love the SP1.

Soehn, good luck with the Bethesda H.S. JV team.

"Richie Williams (clap, clap,clap, clap,clap)..Richie Williams (clap, clap,clap, clap,clap)..................

I had to turn it off. My head hurts. Whoever is running the cameras needs to have their equilibrium checked.

RSL up by 1 over Colorado. Forget silver platter, the platter is made of platinum for DC. Now go out and light them up boys.

Comcast SportsNet misspelled "Comeback" in the MLS "Comeback Player of the Year" category. C'mon, dudes!

Olsen in for Szetela. Hope he can do better man marking than he did against Chivas USA. One more sub for Tom Soehn in the last 45 minutes.

RSL now up 2-0 over Colorado...

RSL up on Colorado now 2-0 as well.

NY RB 5
TFC 0

What a joke...

Red Bull New York 4, Toronto 0
Thank you, Richie, Jeff and @Mastodon Juan

Who'll score more points? NY RB or Redskins?

Nice shot, Fred! You couldn't hit the side of a barn if your life depended on it!

Nice shot of Tommy.

United is woeful, but it was nice to see two players sharing an apple on the bench. Insert your own biblical howlers here.

Emilio's last touch(es) as a DCU member?

I laughed when Dave Johnson said something to the effect of, "This is the 2nd year in a row that Tom Soehn has navigated DCU to the brink of the playoffs."

Emilio's last touch(es) as a DCU member?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 24, 2009 9:55 PM

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As least at his current salary!

If you're tired because you played four days ago, maybe you need a new line of work, like maybe US Senator.

Fred draws the penalty! DC United with some hope!

jaime's going to miss...

bad call. glad we got it, but bad call.

Fred's best play of the year....

OH MY

Moreno converts the pk, barely.

whew!

Haha, what a horrible call. Fred backs into Marquess and falls down.

Let's go!

DCU 1, Kansas City 1
Jaime with the penalty kick goal

Maybe Kansas City is even worse than we are!

That was a funny comment from Dave Johnson @Poopy_McPoop. As though taking DC United to the "brink of the playoffs" two years running is an accomplishment.

C'mon United! Keep the Wizards from scoring for the remainder of the match. A draw might give us a playoff slot.

perhaps ben can join josh at anger management counseling in the off season.

wicks, that is. not wolff.

btw, the game is now on the main CSN in HD if you want to switch over

JULIUS JAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We found our new striker!!!

Does United play better in HD? Yahoo, James does!

wow, that is unbelievable. The hobbled James scores on a header. 2-1 DC

And the kids run away from Rodney Wallace.

Goal DCU off of James' head.

KING JAMES!!!!

shame portland is in mls next year, because I'd love to keep Cronin around.

Portland is NOT in MLS next year. Next year is just Philly

Now Fred's limping too...talk about limping into the playoffs, but if it happens...I'LL TAKE IT!!!!

goooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllll

...Are you kidding me?

Handball on Fred, in the box, red card and PK for KC.

There's the fred we've come to know.....

Fred had to red.

I hate this field...looks like 6 on 6.

oh Fred! You win two goals for us by drawing fouls and now you give away a PK handling the ball on the line.

What does a draw do to us? Do we deserve to be in the playoffs?

Tied game...so any actuarial scientist on the blog at the moment?

NOOOOO!!

Fred earns a penalty, Fred gives a penalty...

Fred's off, Who's going to fall down now?

jesus that sucks

wallace hits the post. so close

I think that was off the post!

ohh the post

Wallace off the post........

DOINK! Unfnbelievable.

Like last year -- denied by the post....

Corner...as if DCU scores on these....was that Cronin in there?

moreno fouled a guy twice at the end 25 and 20 yards out. eventually led to the goal.

well that game just serves as a metaphor for the whole d*mned season.

that hurts

my bad on cronin. maybe we can pry him away from portland.

What a match! Too bad about the Fred handball and resulting PK goal by Lopez, but we did pick up a point on the road. The last week was good with the win against Columbus and draws against Toluca and Kansas City on the road.

Let's hope RSL can hang out against Colorado and that Columbus can beat the Revs tomorrow. I hope that James and Fred didn't injure themselves significantly.

If results hold:

We're in ONLY IF

Columbus defeats New England
Dallas to DRAW.

Fire Soehn and all the rest of the coaching staff. Mediocre coach, not good enough to win a championship.

Fire Fred, Burch, Gomez, Szetela, Khumalo, Emilio.

Ugh.

Manly match by James. He's a keeper.

I'd be surprised if Portland would give Cronin, but maybe his contract is up...available for a free transfer?

help! what's going on? which teams do i need to root for?

Good game and big heart by the boys, but I fear that the permutations don't sem to favor us. Figers crossed though, fingers crossed.

Glad Columbus and Seattle are at home.

Moreno is still one of the best ball handlers in the league.

If results hold:

We're in ONLY IF

Columbus defeats New England
Dallas to DRAW.

Posted by: B_A_ | October 24, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Seattle will destroy Dallas at home, my guess is NE is going to knock us out.

Hoping for Seattle and Columbus at home is about as good as it gets. (Dam those posts and wasted chances).

I hope that u guys somehow make it in. Much more fun playing the evil empire in the first round than a Western team ;).

What about Gomez? Did anybody (Comcast subscriber) see the first half? Looked really beat up in the closing highlight package...

new england & dallas need to lose. so we drawed because Fred had a handball in the box?

that handball will likely cause us the playoffs.

Note: A Dallas LOSS knocks us out of the playoffs.

You cant blame it all on Fred - the ball got through the box - he was manning his corner and got a direct hit at his arm. Poor defending on the corner cost us. Wallace's defending cost us.

It seems odd, but we need Dallas to tie --- sends it down to goal differential, where DC comes out on top. If Dallas loses, DCU loses on tiebreakers to Colo. and RSL.

You can't blame that on Fred at all. If he doesn't stop the shot with his arm, it's a goal anyway....

RSL 3, Colorado 0 (87th minute)

Colorado out of the playoffs. Let's go Crew!

IF one of those shots against the post had gone in (i.e. if we had won), what would we have had to root for (just curious)?

dallas 1
seattle 0

My bad, Colorado is still in the playoff hunt, even with their loss tonight against RSL, 3-0.

Oh, man (Dallas up 1-0 on the road against Seattle). Dallas is more deserving then we are to make the playoffs. We'll see if Seattle can come back.

OK. two seasons ago I bought (non-season) tix to DCU games because they were a winning team and the atmosphere at RFK was awesome.

Last season I bought a half-season-ticket plan because they had just come off their second straight Supporters Shield-winning season.

This season I bought a full-season-ticket plan because I would up going to just about every home game the previous season, even with a half-season-ticket plan.

After tonight's game, there's not much of a reason for me to buy another season ticket package (unless DCU were to back into the playoffs and qualify for the next CONCACAF Champions League by doing a Red Bull and somehow getting to the MLS Cup final), but regardless of whether DCU makes the playoffs, I'M STILL BUYING SEASON TICKETS FOR NEXT YEAR.

I became a fan of DCU because of its winning record (at the time that I started paying attention), but now, I admit it:

My Name Is Juan-John, and I'm a Soccer Junkie.

"wound up", not "would up" -- doggone Merlot...

we would have had the 7th or 8th spot.

FIRE SOEHN!!!
Cut Emilio, and Gomez!!
Retire Moreno respectfully, Greatest Player in DC United History!!!
Am I the only tired of Soehn crying about his players being too tired!!! Schedule too busy!!
You have to be able to play your best players for the majority of the time or else you are not doing your job as manager, YOU'RE FIRED!!!

It seems odd, but we need Dallas to tie --- sends it down to goal differential, where DC comes out on top. If Dallas loses, DCU loses on tiebreakers to Colo. and RSL.

Posted by: fischy | October 24, 2009 10:49 PM
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cr*p

"It seems odd, but we need Dallas to tie --- sends it down to goal differential, where DC comes out on top."

First tie breaker is W/L (ties don't count?) record against tied teams. For just RSL, Col, DCU it is

RSL 2-1
Col 2-2
DCU 2-1

which eliminated Col and goes to second tie breaker (GD) where RSL advances. Start again... Col and DCU are 1-1 against each other, Col advances on tie breaker. That is why Dallas needs to have 40pts.

@ Juan-John. I sit across the aisle from you. See ya next season. We will be there.

fischy, if you're a comcast subscriber why didn't you watch the whole game live? It was on comcast+.. what gives? Caps fan?
I watched at my neighbor's who has verizon fios, and the game was on channel 1....

Anywayz. Crazy game. Had fun watching. I've run out of fingers to count draws that felt like wins on. This one is a draw that mid season would have felt like a win, but in this case it feels like a loss.
James is a soldier. Funny watching Fred realize he'd be the biggest wuss in the world if he didn't get back on the field with James playing in the state he was in.
Too many chances wasted by United all season long. Gomez, Wallace, etc. I would have peed in my pants had Olsen scored on that volley in the box early in the second half.
Maybe we squeek in...
Hope we get some preseason match days in Charleston!
Vamos United!

and yeah, Gomez got a cut or something on his forehead early on, and then on an odd ball offside scramble in the box he looked to have had his foot stepped on by one of KC's players. He tried to run it off but then had to be helped off the field. I say he broke something in his foot.

gooooooallllll!!!

seattle 1
dallas 1

we have to root for NO GOALS for 30 more minutes...

@Juan-John

Yep, that's the only way to go, gotta support the lads through thick and thin.

So many passes to the blue team tonight, too many missed scoring opportunities. Where is my DC United?

Dallas & Seattle still tied at 1-1 in the 74th minute. Do you believe in miracles?

Dallas-Seattle live stream:

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-major-league-soccer.php?w=31731

Dallas & Seattle still tied at 1-1 in the 74th minute. Do you believe in miracles?

Posted by: KireDCU | October 25, 2009 12:11 AM

zakuani just missed an EASY goal from 10 yards out. 82 minutes in...1-1.

good night everybody...

seattle 2
dallas 1

god, i HATE seattle.

Seattle grabs a 2-1 lead. DC looks done.

zakuani just missed an EASY goal from 10 yards out. 82 minutes in...1-1.

Posted by: birdynumnum

87' and holding at a tie... I feel like I'm in U-boat with depth charges quietly floating down all around.

...and Seattle scores.

Crap. Sorry for mis-post. Gamecast didn't make the goal obvious.

season over. seattle "diving team" sounders win 2-1. see you guys next year.

Huh? As much as we don't deserve it. If Columbus beats New England, we finish with 40 and are in.

another reason to hate Seattle

DC United's season is officially over, with Dallas losing 2-1 to Seattle.

no, we needed Dallas to draw because of the convoluted tiebreakers. DCU's season is over.

crap. see everybody next year.

For a first-year club, Seattle sure did a lot of pi$$ing on DC's parade this season. I will enjoy rooting against them in the playoffs.

ah, they hadn't update RSL's record. unfrrginblvable.

Another reason not to like Seattle. Funny how quickly we've come to dislike them. I certainly wouldn't have bet on that happening when they entered the league.

Anyway, the main problem is really here at home, isn't it? Can't put your destiny in another team's hands.

Regrettably, I believe your math is off delantero.

@delantero -- think again. RSL and Colorado would go in. We needed a ie from DAllas to tilt the tiebreakers our way.

As Don Adams used to say, "missed it by that much".

Dear Tom Soehn,

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Time to change gears -- root for the Revs tomorrow. I believe if they tie or win, we get the higher draft position.

So, now we turn our eyes to next season. Who stays, who goes? Players and coaches, of course, or at least perhaps. Still, think realistically who the management can replace them with? Start the debate.

@tcbannon -- "Missed it by that much", indeed. that's 2 years in a row that DCU misses the playoffs when a shot in the final minutes hits the goal frame.

for the sake of the leauge, dont root for the revs to win. 5,000 in attendance for a playoff game just isn't cool...

neither is drawing as much as DCU did this season.

going by the comments it seems like we're out. Sugar-Daddy!

So Long Tom Soehn. Thanks for everything.

So long Emilio at your current salary, if not forever. Thanks for everything.

So long Fred at your current salary, if not forever. Thanks for everything.

So long Moreno at your current salary, if not forever. Thanks for everything.

So long Gomez at your current salary, if not forever. Thanks for everything.

So long the Chad Allen's, David Hambrugia's, etc.s. Thanks for everything.

Hopefully the offseason brings in both the management and player levels. Also here's hoping for some good news in-regards to the stadium situation.

Good luck DCU, you've got your work cut out.

Man MLS needs a single season cause all this tie-breaker crap does not help the cause. Its a headache that just needs to go away. If it stays, goal differential is the simplest way.

So with DCU officially out of the playoffs, next year it has three trophies to go after:

US Open Cup
Supporters Shield
MLS Cup

Won't have any Champions League games on the docket (which means more "Game A" tickets for season ticket holders to those slightly-pathetic USOC play-in games), so maybe a lighter schedule will work in the team's favor.

See y'all next season!

Tonight summed up their season. Just not quite good enough. What a bummer......

FYI- Don't blame Fios for the Maryland CSN+ problem. I talked to somebody behind the scenes on this one. It is Comcast. They will not let Fios carry the channel in some areas of Maryland. Just a ploy by Comcast to try to get subscribers to move to their infinitely inferior product.

Who the fig are "Chad Allen" and "David Hambrugia"? Porn stars?

I hate the way Seattle plays as much as the next guy, but the fact remains that DCU had their chances this year and they simply screwed the pooch. A lack of an ability to put away games came up to bite this team in the rump time and again. How many times did they have a lead only to lose it late in the game and settle for a tie? I'm not joining in the gloom and doom club when it comes to next year. Sure, some changes need to be made for next year, but I think there are enough young and talented players on the team that can be used to re-build quickly. It's time to lose the dead weight of some of our over paid players and bring in some new blood. If Cronin can stick around, along with Milos and Hamid, I think we're ok for goal. Wicks is not the answer in my opinion. Jakovic, James and Namoff are a solid beginning to any defense. The midfield is a little shaky but Wallace, Q, Danny Szetela and Simms are a good start. Up top, if Jaimie can take a pay cut and be a guy to come on late in the game and finish games, he is servicable and of course Pontius has potential to be a good forward. Any one not mentioned above is a sub at best in my opinion or just needs to be let go altogether. Tommy should probably go if a good replacement can be secured. New ideas are needed on the bench.

I'm still confused about tie-breakers... If NE loses, I think first is (8) ppg in tied group: RSL 1.6 (advances), Col 1.4, DCU 1.0. Then head-to-head W/L between two teams (1): Col 1-1, DCU 1-1. Then GD (2): Col +4 (advances), DCU -1.

If NE wins, same as above except only one gets in. Col eliminated, DCU eliminated.

If NE ties, then ppg: RSL 1.57, NE 1.5, Col 1.29, DCU 0.83. So DCU and Col eliminated.

Bottom line, RSL is in, DCU is of course out. If NE win/tie, NE in. If NE lose, Col in. (Unless I'm still confused!)

FYI- Don't blame Fios for the Maryland CSN+ problem. I talked to somebody behind the scenes on this one. It is Comcast. They will not let Fios carry the channel in some areas of Maryland. Just a ploy by Comcast to try to get subscribers to move to their infinitely inferior product.

Posted by: croftonpost | October 25, 2009 12:59 AM
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If true, DC United should be on the lookout for a different broadcast partner. Maybe MASN can find room on one of their channels? Or Newschannel 8?

dude dont worry I think people need to start writing letters to Garber to chnage this garbage of a play-off picture. It doesnt make sense, only partial sense.

It just has to be goal differential. Simple.

or single table.

What we really care about is DCU is out. Of course I'll watch the playoffs (as long as the Caps aren't on) but right now I simply don't care about the other teams.

Juan-John, you forgot the Coffee Pot Cup...
Come on Battery invite us back!

MASN carries Nats and Orioles all summer long... too much conflict for DCU games. Comcast (Caps, Wiz) is a better fit for a summer league team.