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Monday Kickaround

*Politics and soccer cross paths again in Honduras. Meantime, Catrachos defender Maynor Figueroa is sidelined.

*The USA begins play at the U-17 World Cup today in Nigeria against Spain (2 p.m. ET, ESPNU, Galavision).

*Soccer America college rankings
Men
1. Akron (15-0-0); 2. Wake Forest (11-2-2); 3. North Carolina (10-2-2); 4. UCLA (9-2-2); 5. Connecticut (10-2-3); 6. South Florida (10-2-2); 7. UC Santa Barbara (11-3-1); 8. Maryland (10-4-1); 9. Louisville (11-2-2); 10. Northwestern (9-2-4); 11. N.C. State (10-3-1); 12. Virginia (10-3-1); 13. Butler (10-1-1); 14. Harvard (10-3-1); 15. Monmouth (13-1-1); 16. Charlotte (9-1-4); 17. Duke (10-4-0); 18. Stanford (9-4-1); 19. UC Irvine (11-4-0); 20. Tulsa (9-4-2); 21. Brown (8-1-5); 22. St. John's (5-2-8); 23. San Diego (10-4-0); 24. San Diego State (6-4-4); 25. Penn State (9-4-1); (tie) UAB (10-3-1).
Women
1. Stanford (17-0-0); 2. Portland (16-1-0); 3. Florida State (13-2-1); 4. North Carolina (12-3-1); 5. UCLA (14-2-1); 6. Boston College (13-2-1); 7. Notre Dame (14-3-1); 8. Maryland (12-2-2); 9. BYU (14-2-2); 10. Central Florida (14-3-1); 11. Rutgers (12-2-4); 12. Marquette (13-4-2); 13. Ohio State (13-2-2); 14. Florida (13-4-2); 15. South Carolina (15-2-1); 16. Virginia Tech (12-4-0); 17. Wake Forest (12-3-2); 18. Southern Cal (12-5-0); 19. LSU (11-4-3); 20. Missouri (12-4-3); 21. Washington State (11-4-1); 22. Dayton (12-0-5); 23. Mississippi (11-4-2); 24. Santa Clara (12-5-1); 25. Oregon State (10-5-1); (tie) Penn State (9-5-2).

*The final goal of MLS's regular season, a rocket by Jeff Larentowicz to secure the Revs' passage to the playoffs:

By Steve Goff  |  October 26, 2009; 8:55 AM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF , College Soccer , MLS , Youth soccer  
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Comments

We own Spain.

Posted by: Reignking | October 26, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Good grief! On that NE goal, the goalie set up his wall st he could not see the ball until it came over it. And with that pace, no time to react. With no wall, I suspect he would have had an easy save.

Posted by: glfrazier | October 26, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Goff - I know you were partying...but how does a game that ended at 10:30 Saturday night not make the Sunday morning paper?

Posted by: soccerman | October 26, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Are we on Tommy Soehn Job Watch today, or will an announcement about the future direction of DC United be made at a later time rather than the Monday after the season ends?

For the record, I want to say that I have met Tommy and I like him a lot, he's a very nice guy, very friendly, very open, very patient with fans. It makes me sad how things have gone so far and that it hasn't worked out, and I hope he finds a good position in the near future.

Posted by: VercengetorixII | October 26, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Reign is plain when he rains on Spain.

(sorry)

Posted by: troy6 | October 26, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

@Vercengetorixll,

You're sentiment is appreciated. I hope that no fan is beyond sympathy for a family out of work if Tommy gets the axe.

However, Tommy needs the axe. 2008 everyone was given the chance to wash their hands of a really bad experiment. The whole organization was put on notice that 2009 needed to be better. As a whole, the team was better prepared than it was last year. The first half was good. However, from late June forward, the team that played March, April, and May didn't make an appearance again.

Call it age, call it coaching, call it injuries, call it unfortunate abscenses, call it bad officiating, call it some of our signings in the offseason and from prior seasons not turning out right, call it fixture congestion, whatever. The issue is exactly as it appears - the team was not good enough.

The team lost it's confidence and creativity going forward in the second half. The team was not good enough on defense when it had to be. The bench was deeper, but still not deep enough after injuries began to blow holes in the roster.

It's time to change directions before economically strapped fans rip up their renewals for 2010. I think Tommy has a place on a coaching staff in MLS - just not in DC right now. I'm not sure he was the best eye of talent and I'm not sure he was able to pull the best performances out of guys when they needed someone to light them up from a dip in form.

John Spencer

If there's an assistant out there that I feel has the MLS experience as a player and coach - it's him. If there's a guy out there who has the playing experience and perhaps the eye for talent evaluation - I think it's him. If there's a guy who may be the next key signing at a club here - it's him. I'd like to see him get his start managing the Black and Red.

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | October 26, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Did someone mention John Spencer again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0fikUrtTTQ
A little Pussy Galore to get the juices flowing!
Happy Monday folks!

Posted by: DadRyan | October 26, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

So the Columbus keeper apparently said to himself, "Okay, we got a big old hole in the wall, but they wouldn't dare kick it through there . . . "

soccerman, my Sunday paper paper had a report by Tenorio about the DCU game, on page sports-4 I think. Someone else has asked this, though -- it must not have been in earlier editions? I get the Kids Are 6 Now So We Don't Need The 5:00 AM Edition Anymore Edition.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | October 26, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Vercengetorix was a nice guy as well but he came out second best, lost his head and the history books are written about Julius Caesar. If Vercengetorix had won then there would have been no Roman empire and the world be be a much different place n'est-ce-pas.

Maybe it's not as romantic but I want a DC UTD empire, not a forgotten statue portraying virtue and resolve on a street no one visits in a town no one cares about.

Posted by: SoehntheExit | October 26, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

@Vercengetorixll,

You're sentiment is appreciated. I hope that no fan is beyond sympathy for a family out of work if Tommy gets the axe.

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | October 26, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Well said and I concur completely.

Posted by: SoehntheExit | October 26, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Am I nosey or isn't there a legitimate public interest in knowing after almost two weeks who was the driver of the car that crashed with Charlie Davies injured and a woman who died?

Posted by: GeneWells | October 26, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

@Dadryan

Nice, haven't heard that one in a long time. Jon Spencer's Heavy Trash is rockin' DC9 Nov 22, Payne and Co should go and sign him on the spot.

Posted by: SoehntheExit | October 26, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Geez Dadryan, I opened your link because I was fully expecting to see what follows and not a punk band. Then again, I'm old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrPuOO2_Q44

Posted by: OWNTF | October 26, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

@ Genewells, the answer to your question is: the former. The only interest is prurient.

Posted by: OWNTF | October 26, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Good grief! On that NE goal, the goalie set up his wall st he could not see the ball until it came over it. And with that pace, no time to react. With no wall, I suspect he would have had an easy save.

Posted by: glfrazier | October 26, 2009 9:14 AM

**************************

Without a wall, New England almost certainly would have taken that shot differently - and it would have been much easier to score. Yes, the wall probably kept the keeper from seeing the ball earlier but a wall makes freekick goals more difficult, not impossible. A well-taken goal can beat the wall but no attacker in the world can beat a well-place wall consistently.

Full credit to the redheaded stepkid that scored.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | October 26, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

@ fallschurch1 & goff - I get home delivery in Herndon. I don't really care when the 'earliest' of the early editions are out...a 10:30 DC United finish should make any of those! It's a local professional team with a playoff berth in the balance, not a D3 college field hockey game somewhere in the midwest.

Posted by: soccerman | October 26, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Evidently you have access to an internet machine. You should use it when you feel time is of the essence.

Posted by: OWNTF | October 26, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Fire Tommy Soehn so he can find a job in the NCAAs where he belongs.

Posted by: timmy6 | October 26, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I don't think I'm sold on the idea of John Spencer. Sure, he's been a part of a winning organization and an assistant to a very good coach for several years now… But we would have said the same exact thing about Tom Soehn 3 years ago. Spencer's name has been mentioned as a head coach candidate for quite a few teams over the past couple years, but he has not yet been offered a job. That gives me some concerns.

Posted by: DCUMD | October 26, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

@OWNTF - that's not the point! I watched the 2nd half of the game (only part available on FIOS TV thanks to CSN whacked priorities) - the point is the Post spent big bucks to 'remake' the look of the print edition while still scrimping on the actual content.

Posted by: soccerman | October 26, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Write a letter to the editor, via snail mail.

Posted by: Reignking | October 26, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Is he fired yet?

Posted by: delantero | October 26, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

@socceramn: The entire match was on FIOS channel 1. The Post shut down one of their printing facilities a few years ago, meaning that the outer burbs get an even earlier edition than we used to.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | October 26, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Well it's a fascinating study in 21st centiry journalism. But this blog is only supposed to be about politics, song lyrics, Heather Mitts on her bicycle and also sometimes soccer.

Posted by: OWNTF | October 26, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

that's funny, because my copy of the sunday post had a huge DC DEFEATS KANSAS CITY banner headline on the front page.

Posted by: stairs | October 26, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

US-Slovakia Nov 14th

Posted by: Reignking | October 26, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Juande Ramos was fired by CSKA Moscow.

Maybe he wants to redeem himself for two unsucessful in Europe across the Atlantic.


Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | October 26, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

two unsucessful terms*

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | October 26, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

What, Soehn hasn't been fired yet?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 26, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Juande Ramos was fired by CSKA Moscow.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88

Are you joking??? He was just hired!!!! Too bad the AM job has been filled. But now there is a great candidate for Villarreal, when that happens.

Wow:
Juande Ramos has been sacked by CSKA Moscow after just 47 days in charge of the Russian side following the team's 3-1 home defeat to city rivals FC Moscow on Sunday.

Posted by: Reignking | October 26, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Re: Soehn,

He keeps players like Jaime and Ben out from the CCL match presumably so they were fresh for the MLS match. Then he doesn't start either of them against KC.

I just read some quote from him saying, essentially, "The guys that played in Mexico were tired, so we injected some life into the match."

Brilliant.

Posted by: delantero | October 26, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The whole game was on FIOS ch. 1 in most places. I had to watch the first half online before finding that Comcast had switched over at halftime due to living in the sticks.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | October 26, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

@DCUMD,

If my memory doesn't fail me, Spencer was all set to put pen to paper for the Chicago post. However, the salary bump from being Dom Kinnear's #2 to manager for the Fire wasn't enough to make him jump ship.

And - while Soehn was considered a top assistant and a good MLS man - Soehn doesn't have the same international pedigree as Spencer. Now, to be fair, who's to say that Spencer can judge talent in some of the backwoods of South and Central America the same way he could across the pond. However, I'm willing to give a man who's played at the top level a chance to find the MLS diamonds in the rough and leave Kevin Payne/Dave Kaspar/or another GM the opportunity to negotiate a fair fee to acquire that talent.

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | October 26, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

IT'S THE JACK MAC ATTACK!!!

A red on their centerback in the 2nd, and now a goal in the 4th!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Now Spain taking off their number 10 to put in a defender in the 6th

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

We look confident and composed, considering this game is on the fake stuff.

A great run by the Spanish 17 through our midfield, a good stab pass, but the flag goes up, and the shot rolls wide.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

1-1. Borja, who they mentioned is breaking Torres' academy records at Atletico Madrid, levels it on a square ball in the 22nd. Questions of offsides. He wasn't on the ball played to him, but was on the ball played wideto the man who passed it to him.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Just showed we have a 62-38& possession advantage. The problem is if they make it in our final third, they're VERY good there

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Borja was offsides on both passes, terrible no call. He wea off sides on the wide pass, but not involved but became involved when the ball was played to him and he never established being on sides. Just a horribly blown call. sometimes I really do not know what the refs are watching or thinking

Posted by: jjfooty | October 26, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

@OWNTF: Most kids these days would probably have no idea who Pussy Galore the band was... let alone the Bond flick... & Heather Mitts on a bicycle!?! I thought this was a family blog!

@SoehntheExit, ironically enough, the last time I went to a JSBX show was in Seattle in the 90's... The show at DC9 has me intrigued, thanks for the heads up. You going?

If you missed half the game on Saturday you should have known better. We were hashing out exactly what channels would be showing the match long before kick off right here on this very blog.
Stop Sleeping.

Posted by: DadRyan | October 26, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Great possession in the final third, passing the ball around their 8 leads to a through ball that McInerny gets pushed off of.

On the counter, a cross all the way across the box leads to a shot from a nasty tight angle that the goalie can not stop after having to come all the way across the goal. Maybe should have done better on his part.

2-1 Espana in the 30th minute

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

dear god. American 17 year olds just cannot compete at this level, even a man and a goal up. Sad to see that we still have SO far to go as a soccer nation.

Posted by: jjfooty | October 26, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Good free kick for the US. Left side, in front of the box. Duran gets it up and over the wall, but there's just not enough on it, and it's an easy catch for the goalie.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

jjfooty, I'd disagree. We've looked composed, confident. and skillful on the ball. We've given up goals on counter attacks, one that was likely offsides, and one that was simply a wonderstrike. We've certainly represented ourselves well.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Jerome has a WIDE OPEN breakaway, runins it by trying to touch around the keeper, but he was too close to the line to try that, with the goalie not all the way out, and the touch was just too hard anyway. Simply a screw up by him.

Now Borja one on one with our keeper Edwards, who does good to pull it off Borja's feet.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Notorious Reflex by Duran?

Posted by: Reignking | October 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Shinsky makes a good run at goal, only to blast a shot over the bar instead of trying to go across the face of the goalie to the far post like he should have.

1 minute of stoppage time.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Halftime. I'm out of here. You guys are on your own for the second half, apologies.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | October 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Awaiting the vote of confidence statement from the club re: Soehn's future ....

Posted by: Charisma_Man | October 26, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

To everyone looking for Tommys' firing today...I'd be surprised if Tommy is shown the door before the awards reception. Unless they think they're in a race to grab a coach before someone else can get him, there's no need to rush the deal.

Posted by: CrippledKeeper | October 26, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

@socceramn: The entire match was on FIOS channel 1. The Post shut down one of their printing facilities a few years ago, meaning that the outer burbs get an even earlier edition than we used to.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | October 26, 2009 11:51 AM
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Speak for yourself. I guess if I'd been at my MoCo apartment... In Howard County where I was -- there was no Ch. 1. Apparently, there were other areas.

Posted by: fischy | October 26, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

@jjfooty -- I don't agree. Borjas was back onside because the ball came fom a teammate who was ahead of him.

Posted by: fischy | October 26, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I will that say this team needs to drill on how to beat a goalie 1v1.

Posted by: fischy | October 26, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Man, Schellas Hyndman leaving SMU for Dallas has trashed the reputation of two clubs. Well, Dallas was already bad, but not seeing SMU in the college rankings is a big kick in the gut.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | October 26, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

@fischy his teammate was ahead of him but he was still in an offside position from the first pass, and he never regains an onside position before he became involved in the play. it does not matter where his teammate was when he played him the ball.

Posted by: jjfooty | October 26, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

We were hashing out exactly what channels would be showing the match long before kick off right here on this very blog.
Stop Sleeping.

Posted by: DadRyan | October 26, 2009 2:31 PM
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"Hashing" it out, eh, DadRyan? I expect nothing less...

:-)

Posted by: joedoc1 | October 26, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

BIG NEWS!!!!

Soehn has been hired as the Manager for my Sunday League "Los Pollos Blancos". But he said he wants to take Fred and Emilio with him.

Posted by: fedster | October 26, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Kill the red head!!!

Posted by: JaimeSegundo | October 26, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

@fischy his teammate was ahead of him but he was still in an offside position from the first pass, and he never regains an onside position before he became involved in the play. it does not matter where his teammate was when he played him the ball.

Posted by: jjfooty | October 26, 2009 3:41 PM |-------------------------------------------------

Absolutely not. He does regain the onside position, precisely because his teammate has the ball ahead of him. You cannot be offside if the ball is played from a position closer to the end line than you are at the time the ball is played. As for being offside before his teammate passed him -- that's rendered moot, because he is no longer offside when the ball is played to him. The refs got it right.

Posted by: fischy | October 26, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I love when we talk about the offside rule.

Posted by: fischy | October 26, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

One thing that often gets overlooked is that as a matter of simple math, getting into the MLS playoffs is a higher hurdle than it used to be. It used to be that eight teams out of 10 got into the playoffs; pretty soon it will be eight out of 18. Thus, the amount of disappointment going around on the last weekend of the regular season will only increase in future years.

Posted by: universityandpark | October 26, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

You got to be kidding, no pink slip yet?

Posted by: delantero | October 26, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

@delantero, tomorrow night is DCU's annual awards dinner thingy.
I doubt they are going to make any moves until after that... Tommy, Kasper, and everyone in the team deserves a little cake before they're toast.

As others have already pointed out, I don't think this is the type of decision that needs to be rushed. If DCU really is the class act we would all like to believe they are, there isn't going to be a snap decision made just because the nerds on the blog have had enough. Unless they've got other folks lined up, who knows how long it could take? I mean who exactly could be advising Chang in this situation? Aside from the folks in lot 8 of course.:-)

Season's over, I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see a hiring or firing until after the MLS Cup final. We wouldn't want to get a tampering charge leveled on us just because we couldn't wait to hire the hottest coach out of a contract...

Posted by: DadRyan | October 26, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

152 days until United's first league match of 2010!

Posted by: Curious99 | October 26, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

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