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Poll: United's Next Coach

By Steve Goff  |  November 4, 2009; 12:00 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United , Poll  
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I have a good feeling about 'Other'. Isn't he the Turk from the Ajax Academy?

Posted by: JkR- | November 4, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I like this comment from Ron:


"I honestly do not understand the fascination with Richie Williams. So he went to UVA. So he played here. So he's coached a handful of games for NYRB. Big deal. How does that make him the best candidate for the job?"

Posted by: redskinsux | November 4, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Thomas Dooley? That's a name from way out of left field. Do you know something, Goff? I checked into his -- and he had a lousy year coaching the the third division Bundesliga. Now, he works for a youth club in California. Not exactly a resume that screams out MLS head coach. Would be interesting to see him work his way up ranks into the USA youth program, though. Anyway, I voted for Dooley. He always seemed to know what he was doing out there.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

DC should hire John Hackworth. Former U-17 national team coach. Currently an assistant to Bob Bradley. No professional experience, but he's a hell of a coach.

Posted by: LUA13 | November 4, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Other.

"There are three teams in Liverpool and I support the other one." George Harrison

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I love Harkes, I just don't want him as a coach. my vote is for Spencer. doubt we will get him though.

Posted by: torrey151 | November 4, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Why not have a poll to see if Payne & Co. should go?

Posted by: LCR-54 | November 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Preki, he's an attack minded coach and very disciplined, kinda reminds me of Nowak, man I miss that guy.

Posted by: DCU11 | November 4, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Can someone make the case for Preki? I don't really see it, and Chivas plays some ugly, ugly soccer.

Posted by: VercengetorixII | November 4, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I'd get Christopher Sullivan out of the other group and give him a name space. Why not? I think he's worth a look see, especially if we are gonna start talking Harkes.

I love Richie and was all about touting his name when I had Soehn rage, but now that my senses have returned I am really fiding it hard to see why he's the front runner - and that's where I start to see the cycle...

...We bring Richie in, a fan favorite, and alum, one of us and he sucks (be it because he actually does or because things just work against him) then we are right back where we were with Soehn - a guy we have a hard time letting go of because he's of our ilk. I sense risk there.

He's shown a bit up in New York during his annual cameos, but is that really enough? That should be the honest question asked - above and beyond sentiment or whatever incestuous deal we have going on at this club that plagues FO and fan alike.

Plus I know we've said it jokingly on here, but why not Chest? Seriously.

Posted by: Kosh2 | November 4, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone make the case for Preki? I don't really see it, and Chivas plays some ugly, ugly soccer."

By that logic, why aren't you extremely concerned about the majority of votes for a Red Bulls interim coach?

Posted by: carmines757 | November 4, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Whom should DC hire? Whomever Thierry Henry wants....

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Marco Etcheverry with the entire staff from the Tahuichi Academy as his assistants.

Boom.

Posted by: dpowellutkedu | November 4, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Really, the coach has less to do with it than the players. The players often dictate the style. If Jaime and Emilio are your strikers, then you're not going to play long balls behind the defense, or crosses into the box for headers.

Posted by: wmsiii | November 4, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Foreigner with no MLS ties.

Eric Cantona.

Posted by: RedDevil1 | November 4, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Claudia Reyna. A broadcaster with UVa ties that we haven't mentioned.

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

redskinsux:

I don't know, I think that comment is awfully simplistic. I could say the same for any coach on the list. Preki has had 2 seasons and won nothing. He must suck, right? Williams has gotten good results considering the woeful talent at his disposal in NY, he's one of the only coaches mentioned with a link to United (meaning a fuller understanding of how we play and what is expected), and he's not obviously wrong for the job like most of the people listed. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the reason I have gone with Williams has as much to do with the flaws of the other candidates mentioned as it does with Williams himself.

carmines757:

Did you see any of NY's games under Williams? I'm not saying they were brilliant, but they were trying to go forward. It wasn't hideous. Considering the culture of losing and blame-passing that was in place when he stepped in, producing results with anything beyond the general style of this year's Revs (second half of the playoff game not included) is admirable.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | November 4, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Preki but I'm not rock solid on that. I could change my mind tomorrow.

I'm intrigued by Cirovski but I think he likes being where is. Then again, if UMD wins another title, maybe he'd begin to want a new challenge.

Here's a name not on the list...Greg Andrulis. Former MLS coach who since has done quite well building the George Mason program. Just a thought.

Posted by: cmjhawk86 | November 4, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Boy there's an opening for some Foreigner lyrics, but I just can't bring myself to go there . . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | November 4, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Payne or Kasper to new coach:

"I have waited a lifetime, spent my time so foolishly. But now that I've found you, together we'll make history..."

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Posted by: cmjhawk86 | November 4, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Way too easy, OWNTF...

Reposting:

What are the crucial elements to being a good professional soccer coach?
- soccer knowledge?
- ability to manage players?
- ability to teach?
- ability to make tactical changes during a game?
- ability to inspire players to perform routinely, not just in big games?
- the ability to work with management?
- a vision of how the game should be played?

Is there one person on this list we KNOW has all of these skills/talents?

Posted by: joedoc1 | November 4, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Reposting:

What are the crucial elements to being a good professional soccer coach?
- soccer knowledge?
- ability to manage players?
- ability to teach?
- ability to make tactical changes during a game?
- ability to inspire players to perform routinely, not just in big games?
- the ability to work with management?
- a vision of how the game should be played?

Is there one person on this list we KNOW has all of these skills/talents?


Posted by: joedoc1 | November 4, 2009 1:34 PM


Chest. Rock. Well.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 4, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

OWNTF:

Might we also consider a John Spencer Blues Explosion reference instead of Foreigner?

Posted by: JaimeSegundo | November 4, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I voted for other. I think the new coach should be Julie Foudy. We need to get her off the air before WC '10! Besides, she knows what she's doing. Just ask her!

Posted by: spata1 | November 4, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

@ spata1: Best idea I've heard yet. In fact, if we could make Julie Foudy and Christian Miles co-coaches, that'd be a slam-dunk.

Posted by: mmathai1 | November 4, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Richie has shown a much greater tactical awareness than Soehn in his stints at RBNY, and he also has shown the basic common sense to play players in their strongest positions, rather than to attempt to put square plugs in round holes.

What would this mean for United next year?

------------Cronin/Kocic------------
Namoff---MysteryCB--Jakovic--Habarugira
ActualRM---Simms--Szetela---Wallace
---------Pontius--Tino--------------

Posted by: alecw81 | November 4, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

What do MLS coaches earn, as compared with top NCAA coaches?

Could DC United pay enough to lure a coach from Western Europe? That is where the best managers in the world are found. Why not think about that?

Posted by: OWNTF | November 4, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

""That is where the best managers in the world are found"

Like Ruud Gullit?

Posted by: delantero | November 4, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Chest, my comment was a QUESTION.

Why does being a former DCU player, and winning a handful of games as an interim coach make Richie Williams the BEST candidate for the job?

Richie wouldn't even be a blip on the radar screen of anyone on this thread if he had not played for DCU. If THAT is the biggest reason people have for favoring him, and it is here on the SI blog, then that is not a very compelling justification for hiring him or considering him the top candidate.

Talk about simplistic...

Posted by: Ron16 | November 4, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Julie Foudy

271 caps US WNT, captain or co-captain 14 years
World gold '91, '99, world bronze '95, '03
Olympic gold '96, silver '00, gold '04
National Soccer Hall of Fame
Stanford grad, admitted to Stanford Med

But she's a girl, an idiot and knows nothing about soccer.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 4, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

what about maradona?


;-)

Posted by: nairbsod | November 4, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Sherman Lewis

Posted by: Hoost | November 4, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Maradona? Please... just wait for Domenech. Unless he somehow escapes being fired after losing to Ireland to miss out on the World Cup

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | November 4, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"We bring Richie in, a fan favorite,"

Not of mine. Little pip squeak ankle biter that he was . . I don't get the lovefest for this guy. A few games with a team that was facing the worst record EVER in MLS. They earn some late season points and all of a sudden people are calling it a turnaround? I guess that speaks to the mentality in New York, but come on!

Posted by: delantero | November 4, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Based on K. Payne's comments on the lack of attacking football being played in MLS, I'd actually vote for recycling Ray Hudson and Tommy Rongen as Co-Managers.

Hudson has the personality to get a team fired up, but lacks the Xs and Os, while Rongen knows how to put an attacking team on the field but has the personality of my pet goat...at least it would be entertaining.

Posted by: MBUSA | November 4, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Herm Edwards.

"You play to win the game."

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I doubt he's a candidate for the opening but does anyone know what Jurgen Klinsmann is planning or hoping for in the future?

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | November 4, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

We are all presuming people actually want to come here and coach, which I think might be a bit of a reach. Word travels pretty quickly through MLS as to what organization is good and which isn't. Not saying DC is not attractive, but "who we want" may be quite different than "who we can get."

Posted by: Ruthie1 | November 4, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

BEN OLSON as a player/coach, worked for Bill Russell.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | November 4, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Slovakia officially set for 10am (EST) on FSC 11/14, but then most of you junkies already know this.

Posted by: KireDCU | November 4, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

ACC Women's Soccer Tournament in Cary

Duke 0 FSU 2

Half
Wake 0 Virginia Tech 0

Posted by: sitruc | November 4, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@OWNTF
I have a ton of respect for what Julie Foudy has accomplished in her career and what she has done for women's soccer. I just don't like her as a sports commentator. Clearly, she's no idiot. For me, her delivery is annoying and she comes off as pompous. My feelings have nothing to do with her being a woman.

Actually, I could have made the same comment and used John Harkes name instead. I don't enjoy listening to him all the time on TV (although, he is better than Miles, Bretos, and a few others.) But I have a ton of respect for what he accomplished in his career in England, USMNT and DCU.

Sorry if I touched a nerve.

Posted by: spata1 | November 4, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Ha! I took OWNTF's post seriously :)

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you people are taking this seriously.

Norman Dale.

Posted by: joedoc1 | November 4, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

More fun with Rangers scum...

* BBC 5 live reporter Andy Gillies in Bucharest: "There has been some trouble in the section where the Rangers supporters are housed. Some visiting fans have clashed with the stewards. Seats were ripped up and thrown. Things appear to have calmed down a little bit, but for a few minutes things got extremely nasty."

Posted by: Kev29 | November 4, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Please don't hire a recirculated MLS coach or promoted assistant. Hey, Juande Ramos is available.

Posted by: peridigm | November 4, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If Payne remains, it will be Richie Williams for sure. Because the ABMOD is a perfect lapdog to do as the czar wants.

But if Chang really wants to see the team win, he'd clean the entire house and bring in Sasho. He's every bit as qualified as Bruce Arena was when he took over as DC coach.


Posted by: dsheon1 | November 4, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I've changed my mind back to Chest Rockwell.

Posted by: B_A_ | November 4, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Keep using an acronym no one knows...

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Herm Edwards.

"You play to win the game."

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2009 3:03 PM |
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Hire Herman Edwards.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Juande Ramos is available.

Posted by: peridigm | November 4, 2009 4:14 PM
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Wait a week or two -- Rafa Benitez might be, too.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

The talent on the RBNY team wasn't anywhere as bad as their record suggested. Osorio's foreign signings (Pietrovallo, Pacheco, Johnson, Cichero) were abysmal, and the tactics were obscene, but it wasn't a surprise that someone who keeps the tactics and personnel similar from game to game could move the results more towards the MLS mean.

The other side of the coin is that he hasn't had to sign players or make complicated decisions. So signing him would be a leap of faith. It's one that most NY supporters would be willing to take, but it's unrealistic to pretend that there aren't serious risks.

I'm all for Richie Williams being given the permanent position for NY. Frankly I have no idea if it's going to happen, as it's the technical director's decision to make, and he hasn't been hired. If he's an idiot trying to grab headlines, he'll hire a big name foreigner, but if he's interested in results, Richie is the best candidate. It's a total toss-up right now, and pretending otherwise is a demonstration of ignorance.

Posted by: Mastodon_Juan | November 4, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Chelsea and Porto have qualified now from Group D; that's how bad Atletico (and APOEL) has been. Sevilla, too...

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Did someone say Jon Spencer Blues Explosion!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90iaLaPMa9g

Posted by: DadRyan | November 4, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Jose "The Special One" Mourinho. Yeah I said it, someone was going to eventually anyway. Commence the insults!

Posted by: CapitolHill1 | November 4, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Shut up Sven.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Hire Herman Edwards.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I

Even if he can't coach soccer, DC United should try to find room for him somewhere in the organization.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

@CapitolHill1: You're slow...

Jose (The Chosen One) Mourinho, you have a call on the black-and-red courtesy phone...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 3, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Ron16:

Your post was a question, mine was an answer. The other candidates are, for various reasons, not good fits. If you read beyond my opening sentence, you'd see that I'm leaning towards Williams as much because there aren't better fits as any other reason.

If you think Williams wouldn't be under consideration without his DC past, fine, but I disagree. What are we looking for? Guys that have MLS experience, that are currently working in the league...Williams is the one of the only assistants with MLS head coaching experience. That he has connections with United is a positive, but I think considering it the sole reason he's being considered (here or anywhere) would require ignoring some pretty obvious facts.

I stand by calling that question simplistic. Your question reads as quite hostile to an argument that differs from your opinion. If that's not how it was meant, fine, but it really comes off as a "my way or the highway" type question. Sorry if you're offended, but that's how it looks to me.

MJ:

That's where I am with Williams. I have no idea if he'll do a good job in DC, but I'm pretty sure about most of the other names being certain to lead to future mediocrity, dysfunction, or both. Picking a head coach from this group is a lot like gambling: there are no surefire successes. My educated guess is that Williams will do better than any of the names out there.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | November 4, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

To echo what Chest is saying -- Consider the Oakland Raiders of old. They had a style, a philosophy. Coaches were brought into implement that style, and players were brought or kept based upon their ability to execute in that style. It was an amazingly successful program for 20 years, under several head coaches and starting quarterbacks. Of course, in the last 20 years, Al Davis has let his vanity and his insanity get ahead of everything else. Gibbs was able to do something similar in Washington, going form one quarterback to the next, so long as they could execute his attack vision.

Williams can do something similar in DC -- working with the front office because he's already immersed in how the team does things -- the style that has brought success in MLS. Presumably, all oars would be pulling in the same direction. Reminds me of something I read today that Benitez said after being fired form a prior job "I asked for a table and they brought me a lampshade." Everyone has to be on the same page. Williams offers that prospect, if nothing else. Plus, he's shown that he can win some games as a coach. I think the Red Bulls will probably sign him. If they don't, he should be at or very near the top of the DCU list.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Chest, I think it is pretty clear that the main reason most here are even considering Richie Williams is he played here. Many here for the same reason are even calling for *Ben Olsen* for Pete's sake, who has said HIMSELF he is unqualified for the job. If Richie Williams had played for RSL or LA or anywhere else I doubt you or anyone else here would even consider him. Favor him if you want to, you are entitled to whatever position you want. I just find the pervasive homerism undergirding your and others' rationale for this position unpersuasive. When you strip that away, there is not much left. There is SOME objective evidence Richie is a viable candidate, but that evidence is pretty scant in comparison to some other potential candidates.

Posted by: Ron16 | November 4, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Chest is right in that there are no good options. European coaches don't work well because of MLS rules that don't exist in Europe. Salary Cap, limited numbers of youth and senior players, limited size of a squad, drafts, trading players, inability to purchase players domestically, limited amount of money to purchase players internationally, and a play-off style championship so that the best league record doesn't "win".

That means that DC has to hire nationally and the best availible coach is Williams, according to Chest. I like Preki, but he is defensive. I imagine he can adapt, but maybe not. Either way Chest is right that there is no good option, the only good options already have jobs.

Posted by: bighungry | November 4, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Spencer has an accent. That should make him the front runner. The downside may be that ye canna unnerstan a ward e sain.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Clint Peay!

Posted by: combedge | November 4, 2009 11:22 AM
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Is Clint Peay the answer to "who's the next coach" or who's the sought-after, experienced central defender?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 11:45 AM

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I actually met his mother on a flight from BWI to Vegas back in August. She was a very nice lady. I asked her about her son and she said he was excited to be at Richmond. Such a random thing.


As for the next coach, any way we could get Earl Weaver to do it?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 4, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting a write-in csmpaign for DC United's next coach:

Steven Goff

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 4, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people just because there is a salary cap and draft doesn't mean a non-American coach would automatically fail. How about we hire someone who is smart AND has a high degree of adaptability. SHOCKER.

Posted by: dpowellutkedu | November 4, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting a write-in csmpaign for DC United's next coach:

"Chest Rockwell."

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 4, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Fixed your post. :)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

There's always Hope.

Posted by: Curious99 | November 4, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

I actually met his mother on a flight from BWI to Vegas back in August. She was a very nice lady. I asked her about her son and she said he was excited to be at Richmond. Such a random thing.


As for the next coach, any way we could get Earl Weaver to do it?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 4, 2009 8:39 PM

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My season tickets in '96 were behind the Peays'. Very nice family.

Posted by: Curious99 | November 4, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Enrique Meza

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | November 5, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

I really hope it's Sasho. If not, then let's bring in a foreign coach with an attacking style (that dutch coach Psyco Co). Richie Williams would be an experiment at best. Let's hope that I am wrong about him.

Posted by: zizou1972 | November 5, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

@SportzNut21

Chest Rockwell for coach? Too wordy. The in-game interview would extend into the post game interview. :)

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 5, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

ABMOD = Ankle Biting Midget of Death. Old School reference to the tenacity and lack of height in Richie Williams

Posted by: lrg1231 | November 5, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Other = Raul Diaz Arce

Posted by: RM27 | November 5, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Old school? Is there *anyone* (well, any DCU fan, anyway) not familiar with the ABMOD nick?

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | November 5, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

it should be harks or cirovsky

Posted by: g3impreza | November 5, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

If you cannot spell Olsen correctly, or if you include Habarugira as a potential starter, your opinion is not likely to be strongly considered.

Chest and Fischy convinced me. Richie is my vote.

Posted by: DCUMD | November 5, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Why is MLS experience so important to this coaching position? Is the learning curve really so steep with salary caps etc, that we must discard good soccer coaches out of hand and anticipate their league failure? A young hungry coach will adapt to our league rules and make it work in my opinion, and we should not out of hand discard good coaches.

To me the most important criteria is a coach who can mold players into an effective team. Our team under Soehn was disjointed and not acting as a unit. I think any coach that can create a cohesive unit will be able to cope with MLS restrictions.

I would not discount college coaches. Remember Bruce Arena came from UVA, and he served us well. I think our team needs youth for this rebuild, and a college coach will be plugged into young players. I want to see a bunch of fresh faces coming in all at the same time, gelling over the season into an effective team. I am willing to wait for victory if we have a young team that is maturing.

Posted by: Wiggan | November 5, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This is a team in transition, some valuable but problematic veterans and a handful of quality younger players. It needs to be an experienced manager / coach, who knows MLS, has a sense of the situation at DCU, and has some idea about younger players around the US. This is no time for an untested fan favorite or experiment. I think the best choice might be Thomas Rongen.

Posted by: oz4dcu | November 6, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The overweight Costa Rican assistant who got sent off in WCQ at RFK

Posted by: wis193 | November 8, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

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