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Pulling Ponytails and Other Mischief

Video from the BYU-New Mexico women's soccer match.....


By Steve Goff  |  November 6, 2009; 10:38 AM ET
Categories:  College Soccer  
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Wow Steve! Hot stuff today. Got any scantily clad soccer girls riding bicycles vids!?!

Posted by: DadRyan | November 6, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

What does it say about the quality of officiating in NCAA that that player could get away with those kind of actions and not get sent off?

Posted by: VercengetorixII | November 6, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

at least 3 of those should be red cards

Posted by: jezz | November 6, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Looks like someone really doesn't like Mormons.

Posted by: Josh86 | November 6, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Scary chick. Not condoning that stuff, my first comment was a joke. I'd hope she faces some serious discipline.

Posted by: DadRyan | November 6, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

The ongoing fouls and deplorable conduct of #15 would in any other league merit long-term suspension. It is, in a word, appalling.

Posted by: brm90 | November 6, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Wow. How many players did NM finish with on the field? Looks like it should have been 8.

Posted by: cschetter | November 6, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Way to keep control of the match, ref. I fully expect to see him in the next round of CONCACAF qualifying ;-)

Posted by: Kev29 | November 6, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

What does it say about the quality of officiating in NCAA that that player could get away with those kind of actions and not get sent off?

Posted by: VercengetorixII | November 6, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Ask Brandon Spikes. ;)

Posted by: Colm1 | November 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

@cschetter

yeah, except that all of those fouls were committed by one player, who finished the game with just a lone yellow card. It's unbelievable.

The late tackle at the :30 mark should've been a yellow at least, the punch after the tackle at the 1:15 mark should also have been a card. The funny part is that the foul that she was actually carded for, was the least serious of all. WTF?

Posted by: JMSinCHeights | November 6, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

That's the real reason I don't have a ponytail. Well, and the fact that I'd look really stupid.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 6, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Can the NCAA discipline after-the-fact?

Posted by: mattgabe | November 6, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

@JMSinCHeights

ah...good catch, wasn't paying that close attention I suppose. :)

Terrible sportswomanship, even worse officiating...

Posted by: cschetter | November 6, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Can't say I'm proud of the alma mater right now.
Though I didn't realize that they don't hand out red cards in the women's game.

Posted by: DCUinCT | November 6, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

as a product of the hood, she tried that stuff around here, she would be going home in an ambulance after the match.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | November 6, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Those fouls demand "upon further review" action by either the conference or the NCAA. Both the ref and the player should receive mutli-game suspensions that spill into tournament play and/or next season. Outrageous.

Posted by: bzahradnik | November 6, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

In the ref's defense, you can't call what you didn't see...

But, he sure as heck should have seen more than he did. That's appalling, right there.

Posted by: JkR- | November 6, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Hm. Well, I'd hate to turn this into a pity party, but just this past Sunday I had my tibia and fibula broken on a late, reckless challenge in my D3 conference's quarterfinals. We were up 2-0 with twenty minutes remaining, I got the ball on the left flank and the defender took out my plant leg as I passed upfield. Like I said, he broke both the bones in my lower leg and I needed emergency surgery to insert a plate on my fibula.

Here's the thing: he got a red card, but he's a senior (as am I) and his season is over anyway after that loss. My team looks set to get an NCAA championship bid—the first time in the four years we've been had a shot—but I'm in a cast that goes from my toes to my testicles. Besides being bitter about the lousiness of that situation, I'm pissed at the lack of equitable justice, since there is no system to enforce punishment against a tackle like that, other than the fact he got suspended for the last 20 minutes of his last game.

Yep. So basically I'm just pissed off that my college career ends on this note. Anyone want to share horror stories and commiserate?

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 6, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

*"the first time in the four years I've been here that we've had a shot."

Thanks,

HWL

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 6, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

*"the first time in the four years I've been here that we've had a shot."

Thanks,

HWL

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 6, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I blame percocet for the sloppy posting.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 6, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I blame percocet for the sloppy posting.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 6, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

That sucks HWL. I hope you make a speedy and full recovery.

Posted by: DadRyan | November 6, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about your broken bones HWL. I hope the percocet is working on the pain too.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 6, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I have played with some dirty players and they have committed the same kind of fouls as this video, but over the course of a year!!!!!!!! I can't think of any player at any time of this game that got away with such a dirty display of footie. Every time she was in a tackle her goal was to hurt the other player, with the ball, her feet, chops, pulls, tugs. She very well might be the angriest person in world. lol!

Posted by: zoran1 | November 6, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

As a casual observation and gross generalization (gotta get all of my politically-correct caveats on the table), women's sports in general and soccer in particular tend to be much dirtier than mens. And here is my theory. The ladies are just less incline to inflict retribution. So, a dirty player is only held in check by the referees. In a men's game, after a couple of non-calls (or even after a called foul), somebody would clean the clock of the person committing the foul(s).

I remember a female soccer-playing colleague talking about an indoor game where an opponent kept pinching opponents just above the hip as they ran side-by-side up the indoor pitch. I was flabbergasted that the pinchies didn't simply rotate 90d and deliver a quick punch to the jaw, but the ladies just don't do that.

Posted by: glfrazier | November 6, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I think UNM should be banned from post-season competition for a few years. Yeah, it sucks that everyone should suffer because of one idiot, but otherwise the player just leaves and there is no incentive to prevent this kind of thing in the future.

Posted by: troy6 | November 6, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Never mind the refs. Where were the cops?

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | November 6, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

As a casual observation and gross generalization (gotta get all of my politically-correct caveats on the table), women's sports in general and soccer in particular tend to be much dirtier than mens.
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wait, what? Interesting point, but one of the reasons I love women's soccer is that it lacks the dirty aspects of the men's game (video above notwithstanding). I especially like the lack of diving.

Posted by: troy6 | November 6, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

HWL, I've never played soccer, but I have been in a cast from my heel to my, um, you know and I can commiserate with that part of it. Be careful on your crutches! Being the klutz that I am I fell down a flight of stairs and also ended up in a cast from my wrist to my upper arm. Real bummer about the rest of it. One can only hope karma gets him later in life.

Posted by: BlackandRedRedDevil | November 6, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Re: #15 Didn't realize Roy Keane had a daughter old enough to go to college in America.

Posted by: BlackandRedRedDevil | November 6, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how much of that came from the coach and how much from the player. Both of them should be investigated and that player should face an extremely long suspension. How all of the officials missed all of those clear send off offenses should have them dragged onto the carpet as well.

Posted by: fedssocr | November 6, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

@ DCUinCT:

I'm proud of mine. Football season might as well be over for us, but we still have a shot with womens soccer. Go BYU!

Posted by: DCU4LIFE | November 6, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I think UNM should be banned from post-season competition for a few years. Yeah, it sucks that everyone should suffer because of one idiot, but otherwise the player just leaves and there is no incentive to prevent this kind of thing in the future.

Posted by: troy6 | November 6, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

No, most don't just leave. Lambert is a junior and should be punished directly and severely - like a suspension from the team for all or part of her senior year. Just for once let's punish the person involved rather than punishing everyone.

Posted by: BillyBob4 | November 6, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"Ca ca ca cat fight . . oooh yeah" Kramer

Posted by: delantero | November 6, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

#15 Lambert is a junior. Maybe she's eligible for suspension next season.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 6, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

That was some of the nastiest stuff I've seen. That girl should have had multiple red cards (heck they should still be carding her right now). It was downright embarrassing and thanks ESPN for making it a national fare - it should teach that idiot a proper lesson...oh, and the dirty player too.

Sorry to hear of the bad news HWL. Best wishes on a speedy and full recovery. Hang in there.

Posted by: Kosh2 | November 6, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Are we sure he last name isn't Laimbeer and not Lambert? I'm all for players giving a little "love tap" to set the tempo and lay down the law but damn this girl went waaaaaaaay overboard. That was some dirty play. Inexcusable. She went out with an intent to injure. A lengthy ban should be in order. This can not go unpunished.

You have to commend the BYU girls. It would of been so easy to retaliate. I would have. It would have been easy to stoop to Lambert's level. They didn't and they should be applauded for that. My hat goes off to them.

Posted by: MichaelVann7 | November 6, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, in defense of NMU and the ref, there was NO visible bleeding after any of these ALLEGED fouls - AND BYU wears white, which should have revealed such evidence plainly, and hidden it in the case of bleeding NMU players!

My prediction: swim caps and short hair for the rest of the playoffs.

HWL: get well.

Posted by: Modibo | November 6, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey, check it out - her profile on the NMU soccer site says that she "is fearless when making a challenge" (uh, yeah, especially the illegal ones) and "is majoring in University Studies with a focus on Occupational Therapy" - like for college athletes who have been mauled by maniacal opponents?!?

Posted by: Modibo | November 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"is majoring in University Studies with a focus on Occupational Therapy"
Posted by: Modibo
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So she was re-aligning that BYU player's spine.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 6, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Someone get that girl into anger management therapy ASAP

Posted by: bs2004 | November 6, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

now THAT'S some argy-bargy. i would like to see somebody take down voronin by the ponytail, though.

Posted by: stairs | November 6, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

If you watched any of the WPS this year, you'd notice the play was MUCH rougher than in the old WUSA. Lots of serious injuries from hard contact.

Which made it more watchable and honest, but still...

The refs in women's soccer (pro and college) are living in another era where any violent contact must be accidental and couldn't possibly have been intentional (girls wouldn't do such a thing!).

I'd love to see what Jorge Larrionda and a few of his kind would do in WPS or the NCAA.

Posted by: StanShmenge | November 6, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm no doc, not even a Joe Doc, but that hair yank looks like it could literally have snapped a neck. The NCAA needs to step on this and levy a very severe punishment.

Apart from the soccer . . . that woman needs some serious counseling.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 6, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

In my best Kramer voice:

"Yeye catfight!"

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 6, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

now THAT'S some argy-bargy. i would like to see somebody take down voronin by the ponytail, though.

Posted by: stairs | November 6, 2009 12:50 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Excellent. Surprised it didn't escalate into a FRACAS

Posted by: JkR- | November 6, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully that player makes her way down to the Indoor Co-Ed League in Upland where my girlfriend can give her some elbows and hipchecks into the boards.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 6, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I think Joey Barton has found his soul mate.

Posted by: RedDevil1 | November 6, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Where is the adult (coach) in this situation? As the coach of a women's varsity HS team, I would never allow such behavior. It jeopardizes the success of the team (ie play a man down) and it is runs counter to sportsmanship (my responsibility for held standards) and why we play the game.

Posted by: billq1 | November 6, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Just found this on the UNM Web site.
Thank heavens she's been suspended. Her actions were deadly, intentional, and a smear on not only women's soccer but all of the beautiful game.

New Mexico Women's Soccer Player Suspended Indefinitely
Lambert apoligizes for her actions.
Nov. 6, 2009

University of New Mexico head women's soccer coach Kit Vela announced today that junior defender Elizabeth Lambert has been suspended indefinitely for her actions in Thursday's match against BYU in the semifinals of the Mountain West Conference Championship in Provo, Utah.

Effective immediately, Lambert is prohibited from participating in all team practices, competition and conditioning activities.

"I am deeply and wholeheartedly regretful for my actions," said Lambert. "My actions were uncalled for. I let my emotions get the best of me in a heated situation. I take full responsibility for my actions and accept any punishment felt necessary from the coaching staff and UNM administration. This is in no way indicative of my character or the soccer player that I am. I am sorry to my coaches and teammates for any and all damages I have brought upon them. I am especially sorry to BYU and the BYU women's soccer players that were personally affected by my actions. I have the utmost respect for the BYU women's soccer program and its players."

"Liz is a quality student-athlete, but in this instance her actions clearly crossed the line of fair play and good sportsmanship," said Vela.

"Liz's conduct on the field against BYU was completely inappropriate," said UNM Vice President for Athletics Paul Krebs. "There is no way to defend her actions."

Posted by: sbuck | November 6, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I can only imagine what Lambert's boyfriend/girlfriend has to put up with in the bedroom.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 6, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the info sbuck, but how about a link next time.
Also still trying to figure out what your mysterious post about making breakfast and unloading the dishwasher last week was supposed to mean...

Posted by: DadRyan | November 6, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I can only imagine what Lambert's boyfriend/girlfriend has to put up with in the bedroom.
Posted by: Poopy_McPoop
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After your own description of what your GF would do, I don't think you have to imagine.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 6, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Now that she has be suspended what happens to the referees and the coach? That have a standard of care to protect the opposing players, too and failed to do so. The coach should definitely be reprimanded and the referees suspended. Lambert did these things because she was allowed to do so by her coach and the referees.

Posted by: MichaelVann7 | November 6, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Just got home from work to watch this after having read all the comments on my phone, and, my god. Wow.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 6, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

http://www.golobos.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/110609aaa.html

She been suspended and apoligized. Thank God!

Posted by: kris77 | November 6, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

That flagrant activity went on throughout the game- I guess I seriously doubt the coach cared much, or she would have yanked her player off the field. Would there have been a suspension and apology if it hadn't all gone viral on the web?

Much more investigation needed here, of coach and officials.

Posted by: captainwierd | November 6, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

That girl is an embarrassment. I'm sure her family is proud.

Posted by: MBUSA | November 6, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

So, if she's been suspended, what does that do to her scholarship? I am assuming that someone playing D1 ball is on at least a partial scholarship. That would actually hit her where it hurts and would be a deterrent for other players thinking they could get away with this type of dirty tricks.

Posted by: revltion1 | November 6, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Adu still on the bench for Belenenses after 45'. Another guy named Fredy is playing behind the striker. Seems Freddy and Fredy both compete for same position.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | November 6, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser said that the New Mexico terminator will be the big story on PTI this afternoon.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 6, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

How the heck did this girl escape a red card/suspension?

I couldn't believe it was all one player!

Posted by: UnitedDemon | November 6, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I never meant to insinuate that a little roughness in the bedroom was a bad thing. It's rather good stuff, actually. Which is exactly why I used "can" instead of "cannot."

bedroom roughnes = thumbs up

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser said that the New Mexico terminator will be the big story on PTI this afternoon.
Posted by: Kev29
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I hope he plugs the Portland-San Diego game (11PM, ESPNU). Who knows, maybe there'll be more girl-on-girl violence.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 6, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Yea--Freddy didn't get in a game that Belenenses lost 0-3. Now I am just waiting for his tweet saying "You just can't ever give up. I am heading to the gym for four hours tonight and eating 3000 calories of lean proteins for dinner. lol."

Is that pretty close?

Posted by: TwinCity | November 6, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Goff, who was the referee for that game? That was sickening.

Posted by: FAkeemail9875 | November 6, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

#15 and Josh Wicks should hook up; they would complete each other.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 6, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

#15 and Josh Wicks should hook up; they would complete each other!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 6, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I can only imagine that BYU must have given the officials an earful after the game. Not one red was issued. Wow! Amazing what goes on when the officials are not watching or what they miss.

Posted by: ctsmithjr26 | November 6, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The Lobos asst coach is Guatemalan.

Just saying.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 6, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Should the coach be disciplened?

I don't think it is possible for New Mexico's coach not to have noticed. If I was her coach I would have red carded her myself.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 6, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

If I was the AD of New Mexico...I would have fired the coach on the spot for not benching a player that was clearly out of control. What the hell was that coach watching?

The referee, linesman and fourth official? shouldn't even be allowed to ref u-8 games. I can see missing off the ball stuff..but the majority of her fouls happened on the ball...no excuses for not red carding her.

Since the player is young...and the people managing her (coaches and referees) did nothing to stop her from continuing to play that way...I'd just suspend her for a bit..but not kick her off the team.

Posted by: matthewjfyoungs | November 6, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

OWNTF....That's great!!

Probably related to Carlos Ruiz....

Posted by: matthewjfyoungs | November 6, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Yea--Freddy didn't get in a game that Belenenses lost 0-3. Now I am just waiting for his tweet saying "You just can't ever give up. I am heading to the gym for four hours tonight and eating 3000 calories of lean proteins for dinner. lol."

Is that pretty close?

Posted by: TwinCity
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I think you deserve at least a B+ for the prediction

"tough game for us. started of alright but it all fell apart. Gotta get ready for the next game."
"Hey guys thanks for the support for sure. its gonna happen sooner or later i promise you that."

Posted by: emanon13 | November 6, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

"Should the coach be disciplined? I don't think it is possible for New Mexico's coach not to have noticed. If I was her coach I would have red carded her myself.
Posted by: 9Nine9"

I coached a high school team for a couple of years. My best player once full on pushed a kid to the ground with two hands while the ref was watching the play, and missed it. I pulled the kid and sat him for the rest of the match. It was the least I could have done.

I've also sat a kid for a game after an Argy-Bargy that saw the opponent red carded for language---despite culpability for rough/antagonizing/chippy/ruthless play on behalf of both players.

Coaches need to do what's right, if they see it.

Posted by: delantero | November 6, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

That chick needs to switch to Rugby.

Posted by: alecw81 | November 6, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

The ref and assistants need to have their licenses revoked.
Seriously.
There were three clear straight red fouls and not one of them earned even a yellow.
The level of incompetence is absolutely stunning.

Posted by: Figgy | November 6, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

As a casual observation and gross generalization (gotta get all of my politically-correct caveats on the table), women's sports in general and soccer in particular tend to be much dirtier than mens. And here is my theory. The ladies are just less incline to inflict retribution. So, a dirty player is only held in check by the referees. In a men's game, after a couple of non-calls (or even after a called foul), somebody would clean the clock of the person committing the foul(s).

I remember a female soccer-playing colleague talking about an indoor game where an opponent kept pinching opponents just above the hip as they ran side-by-side up the indoor pitch. I was flabbergasted that the pinchies didn't simply rotate 90d and deliver a quick punch to the jaw, but the ladies just don't do that.


Posted by: glfrazier


Actually isn't this what happened? The first highlight i saw was the blonde chick elbowing lambert in the sternum, so then she retaliated by punching her in the back. Not sure if the highlights were in order or not though. Also, in at least one of the actual tackles it looked like she was kicked before she kicked back. So not to defend her or anything, but who knows what else happened first. Even in the hair pulling one, which is totally indefensible, the girl was grabbing her shorts, so technically she (lambert) was fouled first.

That said, what was up with that one challenge from behind where she totally took out the player, how was that not a straight red or at least a yellow? I can see the refs missing the chippy stuff not in a play, but in that one the ball was right there.

By the way, i played basketball in high school where more than one punch was thrown, etc. so its not like this stuff doesn't happen all the time. People are acting amazed. Not condoning it of course, but if Hristo Stoichkov doesn't deserve a year suspension for the tackle he made on that college guy, this girl shouldnt. At least not for the hair pull and smack. Maybe for the reckless tackle. I hope all you guys who are saying the coach should have been suspended said that hudson should have been as well (etc. etc. like when the guy who broke eduardo's leg)

Posted by: Brian76 | November 6, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with this...

Suspended? Really. The idea is to win. If the Ref doesn't call it, too bad.

Sweep the leg, Johnny.

Posted by: J_S_F | November 6, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say I agree with Brian76. Maybe even a little stronger. I'd like to see the entire game, not just the clips of the defender. There was cheap stuff going on from both sides (the cheap shot elbow that supposedly started it, the shorts grab that we have seen). She should be suspended, but not for next year like some are hoping. Now the refs on the other hand (all 4 of them) and the coaches on both sides need to take responsibility. Notice the UNM players cheering after the punch to the face.

Unfortunately, there's tons of youth coaches that condone this type of play from boys and girls. If the ref don't call it, it ain't a foul. I saw a game last week U16 boys Division 1 that had 1 red card and 2 yellows on a team and the coach was laughing and complaining and telling the kids to hit harder.

The hair pull was dirty as they come, but the rest of the stuff goes on in every game when the refs allow it or don't see it. Heck, if it wasn't for instant replay, Zidane would have never been tossed from the World Cup final. Of course, in this case, the center missed at least 2 blatant yellow cards on the ball. Again, I think it would be interesting to see what the sweet innocent BYU girls were doing as well- it usually takes 2 to tango.

Posted by: soyinocente1 | November 6, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

@HWLongfellow -- If you really want some "equitable justice", get a lawyer. I will cost you time and money, though.

As for this Lambert gal -- ". This is in no way indicative of my character or the soccer player that I am." -- I've got bad news for her. One or two of those shots might be someone having a bad day. The repetition of her brutal behavior suggests it is very indicative of her character and playing style. She's got issues.

Posted by: fischy | November 7, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

If you really want some "equitable justice", get a lawyer. I will cost you time and money, though.
Posted by: fischy | November 7, 2009 12:12 AM

I had to get a lawyer early last summer for a criminal issue. At the trial, the cops didn't show up and the charges were dismissed, as they should have been given the number of illegal actions the MOCO popo indulged in that evening. Regardless of their no-show and the swift dismissal, the whole ordeal still cost me a grand. I don't like lawyers, and that wasn't necessarily my idea of justice when I brought it up in the context of soccer. I meant that college programs don't really have ways of handling reckless behavior to the same extent that the pros do. You can fine a pro, suspend him/her without pay, etc. A college kid, playing in his/ her penultimate or final game, doesn't have the same vulnerability to punishment, which makes them dangerous. If Lambert were a senior, or if the team hadn't suspended her first, what would the NCAA do? It's kind of troubling that collegiate soccer doesn't have the means to enforce punishment for dangerous play these situations. I mean, I have video of the tackle that broke my leg, and would love to see it played on ESPN, but is that what it takes to get a reaction?

Do I have a suggestion for what the NCAA should do? No, I guess not. I sure as hell don't think it should depend on me committing thousands of dollars—and yes, take time away from the last year of my undergraduate education—to get legal representation for a tenuous assault charge. He got a red card. The league officials deemed it a dangerous, unacceptable challenge (more so than this Lambert girl). But at the end of the day, he can stroll down his dorm, scamper down some stairs, and strut across the quad to a frat party. I can't walk. And I think that's crap.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 7, 2009 3:10 AM | Report abuse

As a native NM who almost played soccer at UNM, I couldn't be more proud. While the state logo is the Land of Enchantment, most natives know it as the Land of Entrapment.

Also, I think a few years back we passed Mississipi (which had held the title for over a hundred years) as the poorest state in the country.

Everyone's A Lobo WOOF WOOF WOOF
:P

Posted by: Yarrr | November 7, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Glad to see that at least a couple of posters are looking at the bigger picture. As a whole, Lambert's behavior is indefensible. But the ref is far more to blame IMO for letting it go as long as it did. And doesn't anyone else find it curious that the off-the-ball infractions were also caught on camera? One wonders whether Lambert's reputation preceded her and that it was a setup. What else were the BYU players doing to provoke this?

A multi-game suspension for her senior year would be appropriate IMO. The ref should get a longer suspension. And someone should be looking at the bigger question: many experienced soccer players said that this was beyond the pale, but many also said that stuff like this happens. The ESPN storyline would have you believe that this Lambert is a grotesque rogue - but what if she's only someone who pushed what was already going on over the line?

Posted by: jetchs | November 7, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I don't like lawyers...
Posted by: HWLongfellow
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Wrong thing to write on this blog :-)

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 7, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I don't like lawyers...
Posted by: HWLongfellow
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Wrong thing to write on this blog :-)

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 7, 2009 11:26 AM

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Well, I don't. I've needed representation twice in my life, and both times my lawyers got absurd sums of money for doing what appeared to be very little work.

That said, I may be working as a paralegal after graduation and will be applying to law schools next fall.

For anyone who is, for whatever reason, still reading this thread, feel free to plug your alma mater.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | November 7, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Banned for the remainder of this year and all of next year. Done. Message sent.

Posted by: Livy111 | November 9, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

At this point I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm a collegiate soccer official. She obviously should have been sent 3 times over. I, and all officials that I have spoken with, are stunned that these offenses went unseen and unpunished by the center referee or any of the assistants.

I could see if it was an isolated offense that happened to slip by, but there were 6-7 cardable instances and multiple which could have qualified as violent conduct. She was clearly out of control. Any time a player is suspended after a game in which the player received only 1 caution in the 76th minute it is certain that the officials on the game are in big trouble.

Posted by: Ush11 | November 9, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

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