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Wednesday Kickaround

*Tom Soehn talks about his departure from D.C. United:

*DCU defender Bryan Namoff, who missed the final month of the season after suffering a concussion, tells the Insider that, if all goes well, he should be able to resume workouts in December. Namoff recently visited a specialist in Boston.

*New York Red Bulls midfielder Luke Sassano has begun a three-week training stint with Red Bull Salzburg in Austria.

*The USA under-17s face Italy at 10 a.m. today in the round of 16 at the World Cup in Nigeria. Sorry, no TV coverage, but the match is available via ESPN online video.

*Americans abroad:
D Jonathan Spector and West Ham vs. GKs Brad Friedel and Brad Guzan for Aston Villa
MF DaMarcus Beasley and Rangers at Unirea Urziceni
MF Jose Francisco Torres and Pachuca vs. Cruz Azul
D Edgar Castillo and Tigres at Queretaro
D Michael Orozco and San Luis at Tecos
D Marco Vidal and Indios at Chivas

*Kaoru Forbess scored from 20 yards in the 10th minute of sixth-ranked Maryland's 1-0 victory over Navy. The Terps (11-4-2) will conclude the regular season Friday at home against Charleston. ... No. 10 Virginia (11-3-2) extended its unbeaten streak to seven with a 3-0 win over American (9-5-1). ... Georgetown (9-8-1) will host DePaul (8-9-1) at 2 p.m. today in the first round of the Big East tournament. The winner will play at seventh-ranked Louisville (13-2-2) on Saturday. ... The ACC women's tournament begins today in Cary, N.C., with the four quarterfinals.

*You can't start the match if the referee doesn't show up, a frequent problem in the D.C. high school league.

For today's TV offerings.....

*Soccer on TV:
U-17 World Cup, Argentina-Colombia 9:55 a.m. Galavision
Rubin Kazan-Barcelona 12:30 p.m. Fox Soccer Channel
Lyon-Liverpool 2:30 p.m. FSC
Arsenal-AZ Alkmaar 2:30 p.m. Setanta; 5 p.m. FSC
San Lorenzo-River Plate 5:30 p.m. Fox Espanol
Mexico, Chiapas-Morelia 5:55 p.m. ESPN Deportes
England, West Ham-Aston Villa 6:45 p.m. Setanta
Mexico, Pachuca-Cruz Azul 8 p.m. Telefutura
Mexico, Chivas-Indios 9 p.m. Telemundo
Mexico, Tecos-San Luis 9 p.m. Galavision
Mexico, Queretaro-Tigres 11 p.m. Galavision

By Steve Goff  |  November 4, 2009; 8:40 AM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad , College Soccer , D.C. United , MLS , TV , Youth soccer  
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Comments

Looks like the reporter ambushed Soehn in front of his house...

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Question: If Williams was only the interim coach, why can't we make the offer now to him? If NY waits to gets their acts straight up there, are we forced to wait for them? I have to believe that if Williams had an offer from DC and NY at the same time, there's no contest who he would go for We have a stable organization, a winning tradition, belief in our system, and good people all over to support him. Who could possibly choose NY over DC?
Question 2: Is Osorio ruined at this point? He was a good coach at one point in his life. I wonder why he's not even in the list of candidates.

Posted by: jsm3 | November 4, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Russ Thaler gets interviews.

Posted by: sitruc | November 4, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Question: Will Ben Olsen be back in a DCU uniform next year?

Answer: Unclear. http://www.behindthebadge.com/2009/11/video-ben-olsen-on-soehn-leavi.php

Posted by: hoyanick1 | November 4, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

jsm: Energie NY was horrid this season. Horrid. There was nothing redeeming about them. To make matters worse, he had a hand in a lot of the signing, and they were...horrid. Whatever trust people had in his skills is gone now.

Just so dumb of NY to pay Chicago for a coach.

You would think he would have to come back as an assistant, or another country. However, most new or in-danger coaches probably don't want a former head coach lurking around.

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

In my day, if the refs didn't show up, the two coaches could agree to ref the match. In one such game, our coach was the ref and called an indirect kick, in the box, against us. But, in my day, our parents didn't come to soccer games and if they did, they were just there for the transportation.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

to clarify: I'm not sure if having one coach ref the match would work these days because some parents would complain.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Point taken, Reign King.

Posted by: jsm3 | November 4, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

"Who could possibly choose NY over DC?"

Someone with a chance to open a brand new stadium *next season*, minutes away from where he grew up. Seriously, what would YOU do???

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | November 4, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

When I was all juiced up about the coaching change I too was just throwing names out there. But now that I have a chance to sit back and reflect some of hese names just make no sense at all.

Osorio? Seriously? Onalfo? Really? Even when we take sentiment out of it, I start to wonder if Williams is the guy. The FO better think hard and fast on this one...

Oh, and when the FO does end up hiring someone, I advise that they just "hire" the person and not "date" them, seeing as how this team does not know how to break up with someone when a relationship is not going so well.

Posted by: Kosh2 | November 4, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"Who could possibly choose NY over DC?"

Someone with a chance to open a brand new stadium *next season*, minutes away from where he grew up. Seriously, what would YOU do???

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals

Actually, I would look at the GM and the players on the squad and project from there. As long as it wasn't Seattle.

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Alright, fine. Osorio was stupid. It was just a question.

Anyway, to answer your question "Godfather of Goals", I don't think its even close. I would DC every day of the week. The systems in place in DC are far more attractive for a coach than in NY. I get that he grew up in that area, but he's also a competitor. As a competitor, he would have to choose a team that demands winning and supports its club through thick and thin to make it happen. Williams also has a link to DC as well since he is a UVA grad and played his best days here in DC. I just don't how anyone could pick the NY team over DC when the two offers are on the table.

Posted by: jsm3 | November 4, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Mexico, Chivas-Indios 9 p.m. Telemundo

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Chivas fired their coach yesterday. They are now on their 5th coach in the past 3 seasons (2 seasons a year down there).

MLS is lucky that Jorge Vergara doesn't have much interest in the day-to-day operations of his Chivas USA franchise.

If only we could find some way to trade Dan Snyder to the Mexican League.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | November 4, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

New York is way awesomer than DC. Their soccer team may suck, but with that beautiful new stadium the sky is the limit. I wouldn't be surprised if they get some marketing geniuses in the mix to create a stir like Seattle has. Don't get me wrong, I still hate RB, but as someone pointed out there is much more to being attracted to a job than the product you're selling, especially if there is a feeling in the air that special things are ready to happen.

I mean is DCU even going to be playing anywhere near DC 3 years from now?

Posted by: DadRyan | November 4, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Sorry but I think that's crazy. Red Bull just dropped $200 million on a new MLS stadium. They run a top flight European soccer club. Their MLS team knows where it will be playing home games in 2011 and beyond. DC United, on the other hand....?

Other terms being more or less equal (which they wouldn't be), I think it's a longshot Williams would pick DCU over NY.

Also, if Williams is still under contract in NY, DCU can't even speak to him without permission. MLS has enough issues with DCU without throwing a major tampering case on the pile.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | November 4, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I think the concept of a coach being a competitor is being discounted here. I remember Williams as a player. Believe me, he was a competitor almost to a fault. RB have been throwing money at that team for years. They have been terrible no matter who the coach has been. Think about it. Even Arena couldn't succeed there. Thats undeniable. He has succeeded everywhere he has been except NY.
Now, I'm just comparing apples to apples here with regard to the team. We could argue the cities all day and neither side would budge. But the team in DC is run far more professionally than NY, has a much larger and more stable fan base, has players that understand the mentality of the team and team and that actually has a philosophy and identity. I just find it hard to believe that when you line the two teams up, and DC is a better organization, that any coach would choose NY over DC. It's still a landslide to me.

Posted by: jsm3 | November 4, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Godfather_of_Goals = Giorgio Chinaglia ?

Posted by: Charisma_Man | November 4, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Osorio was a fitness coach who fooled a few people in the right places.

Posted by: alecw81 | November 4, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I missed that video yesterday, thanks for posting BTW. Good news is that MLS can't fine DCU for Tommy's comments.
Good Luck buddy!

Posted by: DadRyan | November 4, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Richie choosing DC over NY:


I'm assuming that he doesn't live in a Van, down by the River.

Given equal opportunities, not having to move house and home carries a heckuva lot of weight.

Posted by: JkR- | November 4, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Chivas fired their coach yesterday. They are now on their 5th coach in the past 3 seasons (2 seasons a year down there).

MLS is lucky that Jorge Vergara doesn't have much interest in the day-to-day operations of his Chivas USA franchise.

If only we could find some way to trade Dan Snyder to the Mexican League.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | November 4, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

If you can't beat em why not join them? United should go after some Mexican league coaches...god knows they don't seem to have any issues beating the crap out of MLS teams.

Posted by: Southeasterner | November 4, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Is the video not loading for anyone else? I'm getting an endless loading screen with the spinning circle that never stops.

Posted by: PEddy | November 4, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I can't see the video either; not here or at Comncast's site.

Posted by: JkR- | November 4, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

OT: I don't know whether anyone has previously posted this footie-related link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110102122.html

Posted by: universityandpark | November 4, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Did someone say "video"?!

"I heard you on the wireless back in Fifty Two
Lying awake intent at tuning in on you.
If I was young it didn't stop you coming through.

Oh-a oh

They took the credit for your second symphony.
Rewritten by machine and new technology,
and now I understand the problems you can see.

Oh-a oh

I met your children
Oh-a oh
What did you tell them?

Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star..."

(If I need to tell you who, what and when, then you need to go back to your Fitty Cent.)

Posted by: joedoc1 | November 4, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Someone with a chance to open a brand new stadium *next season*, minutes away from where he grew up. Seriously, what would YOU do???

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | November 4, 2009 9:24 AM
_________________________________________

Since you asked, I wouldn't take a job anywhere near where I grew up, no matter how much you paid me.

Posted by: universityandpark | November 4, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I honestly do not understand the fascination with Richie Williams. So he went to UVA. So he played here. So he's coached a handful of games for NYRB. Big deal. How does that make him the best candidate for the job?

Posted by: Ron16 | November 4, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Very shaky 1st half for the USA kiddies. Jack Mac missed a PK. Then, the defense turned sieve-like. Zach Herold looks especially overwhelmed. Cabrera needs to sub him out. But, it's still only 1-0.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The Maryland women face off against UNC for the second time in four days:

http://www.theacc.com/championships/09-womens-soccer-championship.html

Posted by: universityandpark | November 4, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

ron16: good point. We need to re-institute the UVA policy. DC Re-United! AJ Wood for head coach!

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

What happened for the second Italian goal?

Posted by: sitruc | November 4, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Russ asked Tommy some pretty tough questions. Considering Tommy wanted to come back a week ago, I'm wondering if he's got an opportunity with Piotr, even though he denied it.

The other thing is he says "we" a lot when talking about making the decision. There were a lot of comments on here about how a lady (presumably soehn's wife) flipped out on some guy in Lot 8 wearing a 'fire Soehn' tshirt, I can't imagine how tough that would be on a family.

Posted by: joe_hill | November 4, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

What are the crucial elements to being a good professional soccer coach?
- soccer knowledge?
- ability to manage players?
- ability to teach?
- ability to make tactical changes during a game?
- ability to inspire players to perform routinely, not just in big games?
- the ability to work with management?
- a vision of how the game should be played?

Is there one person out there -- who is available -- we KNOW has all of these skills/talents?

Posted by: joedoc1 | November 4, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Clint Peay!

Posted by: combedge | November 4, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Sorry joedoc - that wasn't in response to your question...I was just joining the former-Hoos name dropping!

Actually though, I think Peay has been coaching at the college level...

Posted by: combedge | November 4, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

In the U17 tournament, do yellow cards from group play carry over? I just heard that an Italian player would be sitting out the quarters because of a second card in the competition.

Posted by: universityandpark | November 4, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Good call...didn't realize he had worked his way up to Richmond...

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Is there one person out there -- who is available -- we KNOW has all of these skills/talents?

===========

Chest?

Posted by: OWNTF | November 4, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Is Clint Peay the answer to "who's the next coach" or who's the sought-after, experienced central defender?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 4, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Ha, I didn't realize Spain had its own "Beckham Law".

Apparently it was passed and foreign players in La Liga were only taxed 24%. It will be 43% for contracts in 2010+, now...

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Clint is only 36...good question, I-270.

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Re: TOmmy's comments about having "solved" fixture congestion...

Not sure I see how that's so. We flopped out of the CCL -- so, we won't have those games early on -- and, we didn't qualify for next summer's tourney -- so we won't have those games either. Instead, I'm sure MLS will stick DC in SuperLiga. Also, a number of those late summer games came from a strong run in the Open Cup. They're still holding that tournament next year.

Finally, with MLS taking off a couple of weeks for the World Cup, that will add some additional fixture congestion issues. The difference is those exist for all teams. I guess we have to pity Columbus and Seattle, plus whichever 2 teams get the other CCL berths?

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

NY may be a great city, and a new stadium with owners who are willing to spend it is great, but what good would that do for Williams if his job security is on the line. NY is not the type of team that will wait for results, they want to win now (wierd because they are not known for winning) While DC has shown that they will give there coaches time to win. Just look at Arena, he was let go rather quickly. Plus there is always the Curse that haunts NY soccer.

Posted by: Norteno4life | November 4, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

@Norteno -- You make a decent point about job security -- except you're really talking about a difference of one year. The real question for someone choosing there would be where is he most likely to succeed? NY has a considerable talent in Angel -- like no one DC has. Plus, it's a destination city, like LA. Much easier to attract good foreign players. Sure, the Red Bulls stink. They probably have more holes to plug than DC -- though it should be noted that DCU's aging roster means plenty of holes there, too. NY will find it easier to bring in good players. That's the kind of job security that even more patient franchises like KC cannot offer.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see the documentary about Washington in the 1960s on WETA the other night? Supposedly, back in those days, people mentioned Estadio RFK, then known as D.C. Stadium, in the same breath as the Eero Saarinen-designed Dulles International Airport as a world-class facility that would raise this area's profile around the globe. Interesting! This program will be rebroadcast a few times:

http://www.weta.org/tv/programsatoz/program/71717

Posted by: universityandpark | November 4, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

@universitypark -- And, how much love is there for Dulles Airport? You like Saarinen? Take the old Pan Am terminal @ JFK. Please....

The problem with RFK is not that's it's not a visually striking building from the outside....it's the inside that sucks.

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

New York doesn't wait for results? How many trophies do they have?

Posted by: Reignking | November 4, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

to clarify: I'm not sure if having one coach ref the match would work these days because some parents would complain.

Posted by: I-270Exit1
------------------------
actually, the opposing coach reffed my son's game last Saturday. he wasn't very good, but there wasn't any blatant favoritism. of course, had we lost the game I would be screaming bloody murder. it's easy to be a good sport when you win.

Posted by: troy6 | November 4, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

WTF is wrong with Barcelona?

Posted by: DadRyan | November 4, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Re replacements, maybe not as as head coach/manager, but two people that may be intriguing would be Claudio Reyna and Richard Mulrooney (player/coach?). Neither has a history with DC--which is something DC United may need--but they are both smart soccer players that have had to learn to manage a game on the field and should have the intellect to transfer that into directing a team.

Posted by: jnel | November 4, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The problem with RFK is that DC United doesn't own it. Everything else is or could be fine.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 4, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't Liverpool or Lyon wearing sponsors on their shirts?

Posted by: daandre3 | November 4, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Question: Will Ben Olsen be back in a DCU uniform next year?

Answer: Unclear. http://www.behindthebadge.com/2009/11/video-ben-olsen-on-soehn-leavi.php

Posted by: hoyanick1

*******

No question based on this interview that Beninho will be back. During the first half of the interview, when he is being asked about Soehn and about the team, the constant assumption is that he himself will be back next year. Only when he is asked about himself does he become modest and deferential (the off-field Ben Olsen who is so endearing personally), saying that this is not up to him and there are various factors including having to play through pain. But in the end he confirms that he wants to play another year, and I have to believe that if he wants to play he will have that opportunity.

Posted by: DCUSince96 | November 4, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

The problem with RFK is that DC United doesn't own it. Everything else is or could be fine.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 4, 2009 3:03 PM
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Rubbish. Which, is what I think best describes RFK, too. A heaping pile...

Posted by: fischy | November 4, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

@ Fischy: I'm perfectly content to be corrected, but I don't think any team that missed the playoffs played in Superliga this season, so presumably the only extracurricular that DC will have next year is the Open Cup. And honestly, isn't Superliga starting to be a case of diminishing returns? Or is the league making THAT much money off it?

@ daandre3: Liverpool has Carlsberg as their shirt sponsor and alcohol advertising is banned on shirts in France. Not sure what Lyon's deal was. Maybe a reciprocity type thing? If yours is banned we won't wear ours...? Poking around on their site makes it look like they don't really *have* a sponsor this season... hmm...

Posted by: ChrisinBelfast | November 4, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

loved Soehn's comments about league congestion. I wonder if MLS can fine coaches who don't coach in the league anymore for comments made ;^)

Posted by: Pete803 | November 4, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind RFK either OWNTF. It's thrashed, but in all honesty I'd love for them to just renovate the place. I know that's easier said than done, but putting seats back in behind the goals, building a bar or two in the upper deck with field views would be sweet. Oh yeah and they could tarp off half the seats with advertising and call it a sell out...;)

Posted by: DadRyan | November 5, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

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