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Wednesday Kickaround

With Denis Hamlett's departure after two seasons, Chicago joins D.C. United, New York and Chivas USA in search of a head coach. Among the in-house candidates for top jobs around the league are Red Bulls interim Richie Williams, former Kansas City boss Curt Onalfo, Houston assistant John Spencer as well as Hamlett and ex-DCU guide Tom Soehn. Dave Sarachan is a prime choice, but he's happy as an assistant in Los Angeles for old buddy Bruce Arena. RSL assistant Robin Fraser also deserves consideration.

But the vibe I am getting in Washington is that DCU is seriously thinking abouot hiring someone from outside MLS circles. It doesn't mean that's going to happen, but the club is apparently looking hard to the college ranks and overseas. According to various sources, Onalfo, Williams and current assistant Chad Ashton have been interviewed, and Caleb Porter, who has guided Akron to a perfect record this year, is on the list. Maryland's Sasho Cirovski and Wake Forest's Jay Vidovich are among the nation's most successful college coaches, but would they even consider sacrificing job security for a move to the cold-hearted world of pro sports? I won't even attempt to guess at the foreign possibilities. (Before you send your e-mails to Jose Mourinho begging him to come to DCU, keep in mind the modest pay scales in MLS.)

*My complete Ben Olsen story.

*With help from Union's supporters group, the Philly Daily News forecasts today's expansion draft.

*Martin Hansson, the Swedish referee who missed the Thierry Henry handball: "It was an unfortunate event that had big consequences for Ireland, but it wasn't the fault of the refereeing team." Huh?

*France Coach Raymond Domenech, responding to criticism from former French star Eric Cantona: "He is coach of a beach soccer team and failed to qualify his team for the World Cup. He should show decency!'' Oh la la!

For Americans abroad and TV listings.....

*Americans abroad:
Yesterday
MF DaMarcus Beasley 5 minutes in Rangers' 2-0 loss to Stuttgart
F Mike Grella 9 in Leeds' 1-0 win over Leyton Orient
MF Jemal Johnson 11 in MK Dons' 4-3 loss to Carlisle
Today
MF Clint Dempsey, F Eddie Johnson and Fulham vs. Blackburn
F Jozy Altidore and Hull City vs. GK Tim Howard and Everton

*Soccer on TV:
AC Milan-Marseille 2:30 p.m. Fox Soccer Channel
Real Madrid-Zurich 2:30 p.m. Fox Sports Espanol; 5 p.m. FSC
Manchester United-Besiktas 2:45 Setanta; 7 p.m. FSC
Porto-Chelsea 2:45 p.m. DirecTV
Bordeaux-Juventus 2:45 p.m. DirecTV
Bayern Munich-Maccabi Haifa 2:45 p.m. DirecTV
CSKA Moscow-Wolfsburg 2:45 p.m. DirecTV
Apoel Nicosia-Atletico Madrid 2:45 p.m. DirecTV
Copa Sudamericana, DeportivoLDU Quito-Fluminense 8:30 p.m. FSE
Colombia, Medellin-Junior 8:30 p.m. GolTV

By Steve Goff  |  November 25, 2009; 10:10 AM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , Americans Abroad , College Soccer , D.C. United , France , MLS , Sweden , TV  
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If any of you read soccer blogs, you might want to vote for your favorite one here

http://www.ussoccer.com/Best-of-Awards/2009-Best-Of-Awards/Best-Soccer-Blog.aspx

Posted by: OWNTF | November 25, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

So what international superstars will be in DC in March 2010 for the Ben Olsen testimonial match?

I think Fat Man Rafa will be out of a job soon - perhaps he will enjoy the move from one dump to another dump?

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | November 25, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Why "Huh" re; the referee's comment about Thierry Henry? The refs didn't see the infraction. That happens all the time, and is part of the game. Sure, you'd hope they'd see every play and make every call correctly - I'll write you a large check when that happens.

There's only one place to lay the blame for that incident, and that's on Henry himself, sad to say. He was one of my favorite players.

Posted by: mmathai | November 25, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

122 days until United's first league match of 2010! And Benny's first as assistant coach!!

Posted by: Curious99 | November 25, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

wow with that draft Philly would be downright awful!

did everyone see how clueless Mourinho was yesterday against Barcelona?

If FIFA put refs along the endlines (no technology needed...) the handball would have been seen easily. problem solved - what more evidence does FIFA need before this is implemented (at least for finals/etc)?

Posted by: GraciasRiquelme | November 25, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I voted >10 times for Steve. Do they all count?

Again I register my futile objection that the WNT blog and its siblings are press releases, not blogs, as they come from the USSF.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 25, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"*With help from Union's supporters group, the Philly Daily News forecasts today's expansion draft."

Daily News Sports Writer: Boss, we should probably write something about the Union's expansion draft.

Daily News Sports Editor: OK, does anyone here have any idea what they're talking about when it comes to low level MLS talent?

Daily News Sports Writer: Ummm...

Daily News Sports Editor: Just call some soccer nerd to write the piece for you.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 25, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Domenech throwing down!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 25, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Steve, didn't Hamlett only get two seasons as head coach in Chicago, not three?

With him being local (HS in Greenbelt, college at George Mason) and having head coaching experience, any chance he's on United's short list?

Posted by: mercedeskk | November 25, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

(Before you send your e-mails to Jose Mourinho begging him to come to DCU, keep in mind the modest pay scales in MLS.)

Could we at least afford the puppet version of Jose? He's still out of work...

Posted by: MBUSA | November 25, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I caught some stuff on france24 last night (love that DC gets that). 7 out of 10 Frenchman want Domenech fired.

DC should look in Argentina or Brazil for a head coach -- then they would be able to take another trip down there. Perhaps Franco Niell has some ideas?

Posted by: Reignking | November 25, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

While the ref's comments sound like idiocy, there is some truth in it. Soccer ref's are set up to fail, pure and simple. When you have three refs trying to officiate 22 players, they are bound to be screened on a call or two throughout the game. If you look at the replay, there were bunches of players between the refs and Henry, and it's easy to see how they could have missed the call. Unfortunate, but easy to see. If FIFA truly cared about getting every call right, they'd add goal line refs or start an instant replay system.

Posted by: icehippo | November 25, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

While the ref's comments sound like idiocy, there is some truth in it. Soccer ref's are set up to fail, pure and simple. When you have three refs trying to officiate 22 players, they are bound to be screened on a call or two throughout the game. If you look at the replay, there were bunches of players between the refs and Henry, and it's easy to see how they could have missed the call. Unfortunate, but easy to see. If FIFA truly cared about getting every call right, they'd add goal line refs or start an instant replay system.

Posted by: icehippo
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All of this would be OK, except that if you youtube the incident, you would see that the linesman had a clear view of the missed offsides call, and a clear view of the handball. Go to youtube, and search "Thierry Henry handball" and you'll see how BLATANT the missed call was. At least, for the linesman.


I will agree, however, that soccer is a game that is somewhat under-staffed in terms of officials. If the NHL can see fit to have 2 center officials and 2 linesmen on a much smaller playing surface, why not the same for soccer? At least for major competitions? Why NOT have goal judges? And why NOT use technology to better judge the game?

Posted by: khan1 | November 25, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Icehippo:

99% of the world will think this a dumb idea, and they will probably be right ... but I'd like to see an experiment with referees sitting on top of a little tower on the sideline, like a tennis referee. Running around on the field you can't help but be screened from a lot of action, in addition to becoming as exhausted as the players are by the end of the match (when the Henry error occurred).

Posted by: granadoskerry | November 25, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

In terms of the Philly expansion draft prediction, I will say that this writer doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.

For Chicago, he lists Gonzalo Segares as a target. However, Segares is out of contract, and at 27, did NOT re-sign with MLS, in the hopes of signing either in Mexico or in Europe for bigger money.

The other thing this mope speaks of is the idea that Segares was "biding his time behind CJ Brown." This would be great, except that Segares plays on the outside, while Brown plays on the inside. In other words, there is NO "biding time" when the two players play different positions.

Jesse Marsch? Who would want a 36 year old DMF who has a sizeable salary?

Posted by: khan1 | November 25, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

i'm thinking sir Alex for DCU coach.

Posted by: adecool79 | November 25, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Could Marco Etcheverry be the international coach they are looking for?

Posted by: mbyrd28 | November 25, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Off topic, but I was wondering if you guys could tell me how to do the link where you make it part of the text. Like how I-270 likes to put videos in the word "this" in a sentence like "you know, something like this". I once knew but that was many moons ago, so any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 25, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Hamlett's seasons at Chicago corrected (two, not three)

My apologies

SG

Posted by: Steve Goff | November 25, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

JacobfromAtlanta-ish: Everthing I know about HTML, I learned from this
HTML Tutorial. I read the section on HTML Links before dropping out.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 25, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

not to dig on an original DCU guy, but i love that they call Jesse Marsch a "proven goal scorer" when he has 31 goals in about 11 seasons worth of games. "if you need 3 goals a year, Jesse Marsch is your man. did we mention he's 36?"

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November 25, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

That Philly article has a lot of factual errors (Segares sitting behind Brown? Esky a midfielder? Convey a forward?). Are they that uninformed?

If DC wants to go with an unexpected coach, it kind of renders all of the debates here (neatly summed up as "Williams!" or "Not Williams!") moot. I can't say I blame them, since every reasonable candidate listed thus far comes with a significant caveat attached. Of course, anyone from outside MLS also comes with the red flag of being unfamiliar with a very unusual league (and the collective track record of coaches with no prior MLS knowledge).

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | November 25, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Thanks!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 25, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

in the interest of offering something constructive, i would say that Philly absolutely needs to grab one of the available keepers, probably Onstad. you need a solid presence back there for an expansion team. also i would probably take the chance on Bobby Convey in the hopes that Novak can whip him into some sort of usable form.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November 25, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with Kev29. I think the Philly draft was sourced from Big Soccer.

Steve Coppell for DC head coach. He coached Bobby Convey and Marcus Hahnemann and therefore has both 2nd-hand-MLS and top-tier Euro experience.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 25, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Steve Coppell for DC head coach.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 25, 2009 12:05 PM

Oooh, Crystal Palace Baltimore would be soooo jealous. Mayor Dixon would probably try to steal him away from United.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 25, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why people keep saying "add two endline refs". There already are two endline refs -> assistant referees or linesmen. And yes, they can't see everything all the time. And Henry shouldn't apologize for his action, it happens all the time during a game, you take what the refs allow.

Posted by: o35_still_kicking | November 25, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Marco Etcheverry is the name that comes to mind when I hear DCU is possibly looking outside MLS. But he just took a gig in Bolivia with Oriente Petrolero, one of their league's better sides. But I assume Marco would jump at the DCU job if approached. Another name to consider is Walter Zenga who was just canned at Palermo. He's had successful at Dinamo Bucharest and had so-so results at Catania and Palermo. Supposedly he's a good coach despite so-so results and he has MLS playing experience. So he knows about the league and somewhat how it's structured.

Posted by: MichaelVann7 | November 25, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I believe that the experience of Payne and Kasper reduces the issue of hiring someone with non-MLS experience a great deal.

Posted by: JkR- | November 25, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if there are any Wenger disciples available.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 25, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I-270, it's not like Sunil is writing those blogs. I don't know who does, but it's obviously someone who's with the team, and I've found plenty of worthwhile stuff on them.
Like this:
http://sitelife.ussoccer.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/1/25357aa2-bb32-40e1-a1bc-4285d16ab508.Full.jpg

Posted by: DadRyan | November 25, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad DC is leaning towards not recycling. Coppell would be awesome, and may be possible. Someone like that in general is the way we should go, successful midlevel coach. We just need to find one that's interested. Probably skewing South American rather than European though. I'd be fine with Marco though.

I dont think the picks in the Philly story are horrible players, just the reasoning a little misinformed. Not like there's enough talent in the expansion draft that they could just pick a team and be set to coast into the playoffs. Look at seattle's draft, it wasn't that great, the reason they got there were the other players they added...Keller, Montero, Ljunberg, alonso (is that his name?) etc. With Nowak the coach, i'm worried. It may take him a year or two to get the talent, but he'll have whoever is on the team working hard and disciplined.

I think the deal with the referee's comment is he's saying that the missed call wasn't the fault of the referees, or that Ireland not going to the WC isn't the fault of the referee's. Of course it is, they missed the call and that's the reason they aren't going to the WC. But what he needed to say is, we screwed up, mistakes happen all the time, i can only call what i see and i missed it. Then he'd be fine.

Domenech is a moron. So is Cantona, but he's just piling on what everyone else has already said. He'll be fired when France doesn't make it out of the group stage....i'm fine with that, i hate the french, but if he'd have been fired a while ago they might have been more successful. Then again, he could still be fired!

Posted by: Brian76 | November 25, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Will Chang will break the bank on a manager? It's the DC thing to do, after all. I hear Guus Hiddink is looking for work...

Actually, I think an outside manager isn't a terrible idea, as long as it's someone willing to play DCU ball and depend on Ashton and Olsen as assistants with deep knowledge of MLS. No bunker and countering, please. Go get the next great manager, and tell him he's got three years, barring absolute disaster, to develop youngsters and build his team. We don't expect to win everything next year, but we'd damn well better challenge for cups in 2011.

Posted by: joshuaostevens | November 25, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

France's Domenech is right...isn't beach soccer indecent on several levels?

Posted by: BaltoFan | November 25, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Where can we get news about the Philadelphia expansion draft?

I think it was supposed to be at 1 pm. MLSnet has listed a webcast of Nowak discussing his picks at 3 pm. Anything before that?

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | November 25, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

WARNING: Shameless self-promotion (of sorts). I tried writing a blog for the first time today, on attempting to make basketball like soccer. Feel free to check it out, if not, that works. Also, sorry if this is lame of me to do this, and I do feel a little dirty, but hey, gotta start somewhere.

http://thatgeniusjacob.blogspot.com/2009/11/lets-make-basketball-bigger-and.html

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 25, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

bring on Dennis Hamlett for DC...great headline...returns after having played at GMU! His results at Chicago speak for themselves.

Posted by: daustin7 | November 25, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Interesting comments from Emilio in a piece on mlsnet.com...

Emilio also acknowledged his frustration with the constant lineup rotations Soehn employed in an effort to keep his side fresh amidst the rigors of CONCACAF, MLS and U.S. Open Cup competition.

"I've never seen in all my life a situation like that," said Emilio. "We made a mistake because we didn't give continuity to the players. That's why we could never win many games consecutively. I think every team has to play as much as they can with the same players. You can make some changes but not a lot, because the team, if it plays like this all the time, loses [its] identity.

"Identity is something very important for each team, and if we don't have identity -- a first XI or something like this -- we can't keep the same level for the whole season. I think this was a big problem for us."

http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20091123&content_id=7708564&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 25, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

And Henry shouldn't apologize for his action, it happens all the time during a game, you take what the refs allow.

Posted by: o35_still_kicking | November 25, 2009 12:15 PM
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Indeed! I believe some of the folks on Wall Street recently took the same approach...

Posted by: joedoc1 | November 25, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanbks for the link, Sportznut, but no matter how right Emilio might be, and he probably is, that doesn't make the best 11 available for each game.

The fact is, they weren't.

Posted by: JkR- | November 25, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

What is the status of Bruce Arena and his contract in L.A.?

Posted by: redskinsux | November 25, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

...and, by the way, for the second year in a row, MLS cup participants had little (IT APPEARS TO BE 'ZERO')involvement in the regional tournaments to distract from their mission.

Posted by: JkR- | November 25, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

@JkR-

EXACTLY!

Hence why there needs to be a one year bump in cap space (higher for CCL than SuperLiga), that allows you to get at least two additional capable backups instead of two warm bodies as the set-up exists now.

BUT - I'm eagerly awaiting to see if DB23 will be back in time to take the LA Galaxy away leg trip INTO CONCACAF! HOW GREAT IS THAT GOING TO BE!

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | November 25, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

APPEARS TO BE 'ZERO')involvement in the regional tournaments to distract from their mission.

Posted by: JkR- | November 25, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

They may have gotten rolled by RSL in the playoffs, but Columbus managed to win the Supporters Shield while advancing in CONCACAF. Explain that one. :)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 25, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I have a mac. I can't watch the press conference. Who did Nowak take from us?

Posted by: jsm3 | November 25, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Union took jacobson

Posted by: OWNTF | November 25, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

What time is the draft?

Posted by: rockotodd | November 25, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Players taken:

Brad Knighton, David Myrie, Shavar Thomas, Jordan Harvey, Shea Salinas, Stefani Miglioranzi, Andrew Jacobson, Nick Zimmerman, Alejandro Moreno, Sebastian LeToux

Posted by: emanon13 | November 25, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Full list:

Brad Knighton, David Myrie, Shavar Thomas, Jordan Harvey, Shea Salinas, Stefani Miglioranzi, Andrew Jacobson, Nick Zimmerman, Alejandro Moreno, Sebastien LeToux

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 25, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Damn, I think Jacobson could be good

Posted by: rockotodd | November 25, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Did Jozy score one of these 3 goals that Hull have?

Posted by: DadRyan | November 25, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Steve Goff for coach dammit!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 25, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Did Jozy score one of these 3 goals that Hull have?

Posted by: DadRyan
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nope: Hunt, Dawson, Marney

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/match/1395371#

Posted by: emanon13 | November 25, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

hahaha I'm not telling Steve but I can tell some of you are peeping at Ives site ;)

Posted by: OWNTF | November 25, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Tim Howard is busy pulling balls out of his net.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | November 25, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

http://www.iraqgoals.net/epl1.html

Jozy hasn't scored yet, but the announcers keep raving about how well he's playing

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 25, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

hahaha I'm not telling Steve but I can tell some of you are peeping at Ives site ;)

Posted by: OWNTF | November 25, 2009 3:24 PM

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so I had some help with the transcription of the names :) . . .

it was interesting to eavesdrop the local Philly media prior to the announcement (the mic was live) - clear some knew about soccer and MLS and others were trying to figure out the draft rules

Posted by: emanon13 | November 25, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

so that philly.com article got exactly 1 of the 10 picks right (2 if you give them Shea Salinas listed as a "sleeper"). i guess that's what baseless speculation gets you.

i definitely agree with Jacobson over McTavish, fwiw.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November 25, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

trying to figure out the draft rules
Posted by: emanon13
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A decent, but not overwhelming, head of foam.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 25, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

ooooohhhh boy, those Besiktas jerseys are sick. Adidas even. Black and Red argyle anyone? Too bad DCU will have ZERO reason to produce a 3rd jersey for international play next season.
Philly took Seba huh? It'll be fun to watch that guy run his butt off and not score goals.

Posted by: DadRyan | November 25, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Someone somewhere, was also saying it'll be a nice change to put the whole "French Connection" thing to bed in Seattle. Now if Fredy the Flounder could get whisked away we won't have to hear about the "Three Amigos" either.

Posted by: DadRyan | November 25, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

They may have gotten rolled by RSL in the playoffs, but Columbus managed to win the Supporters Shield while advancing in CONCACAF. Explain that one. :)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 25, 2009 3:03 PM |

But faltered late in the season...

Posted by: JkR- | November 25, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Roy Keane for coach!

Posted by: owendylan | November 28, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

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