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USA-Netherlands rewind

At Amsterdam ArenA

Kuyt 40th minute (penalty kick)
Huntelaar 73rd minute (deflection)
Bocanegra 89th (header)

Injury: Stuart Holden shin contusion, X-rays scheduled.

Howard 7; Spector 5, DeMerit 7, Bocanegra 7, Bornstein 3; Holden 5, Bradley 6.5, Torres 5.5, Donovan 4; Altidore 5, Findley 4. Subs: Beasley 6.5, Edu 6, Bedoya 5.5, Pearce 5, Johnson 5, Goodson 5.

By Steve Goff  |  March 3, 2010; 4:51 PM ET
Categories:  Netherlands , U.S. men's national team  
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Bradley only a 6.5? He was the best player on the field for the yanks

Posted by: pete_kavanaugh | March 3, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Bornstein was horrible. He is such a liability, always making crucial mistakes at the worst time.

Posted by: RedskinAddict | March 3, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

My God, when are we going to fire Bob Bradley and spend the money on a manager who knows how to manage a team in true international competition. Injuries be damned, we are STILL poorly coached and managed!

Posted by: virtueandvice | March 3, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like Bradley as much. I thought our problems were in the middle of the field. Unable to close down the Dutch, unable to spread the ball on offense.

I was unimpressed by the Dutch as well, as they played more like Blackburn than Arsenal, but fell down like toddlers in the attack.

Posted by: JkR- | March 3, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm like SG's ratings. I mean, almost spot on with my take. I might tweak Bradley and Edu down and Altidore and Bedoya up. Goodson had a strong 6 minutes, too.

DeMerit was the standout, for me, among the field players. Really solid game, while his mates were getting torched. Boca wouldn't deserve a 7 for his defense, but he got a goal!!! Beasley was the next best, after Cheesehead Jay. Really great to see, because it gives options and lets Bradley move Dempsey up top. That's a necessary move, because Altidore doesn't have a top-flight partner right now. Johnson wasn't horrible -- sort of an unguided missile, but he made some stuff happen -- but, we need more finesse and precision than he offers.

Bedoya really showed some cojones and inspiration. I hope there's room for him on the roster. He's really crashing the gates right now. Even if he doesn't make the trip, he will soon be a fixture in the starting XI.

I was kind of sorry to see Torres have such a good strike on goal, because he was awful the rest of the game. I'd like his supporters to give it up, though this might not have been the best match-up for him. He might have better luck against Algeria or even Slovenia than a big, athletic, experienced European team. Right now, I'm hoping Jermaine Jones can get into playing shape, because we need more aggressive, skilled play in midfield.

Posted by: fischy | March 3, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Howard 7 - Did well overall, nothing to do about 2 goals.
Spector 6 - Strong sub, cemented place in team
DeMerit 7 - Strong performance, did well.
Bocanegra 5 - Got beat at least twice, good goal though (WC sub)
Bornstein 3 - awful day, should stay home, no good outside CONCACAF
Holden 5 - good start, too be sh*tty challenge ended his day.
Bradley 6.5 - great holding up the ball, good day
Torres 6 - Good shot, good movement and passing
Donovan 4 - anonymous, basically double teamed
Altidore 5 - mixed bag, maybe starting to go to ground to easy
Findley 3 - awful, did nothing, best chance a squibble shot

Beasley 6.5 - looked alive and wanted to be there
Edu 6 - Good D and strong challenges, played smart good touch
Bedoya 6.5 - Dangerous off the ball, wanted the ball and should have gotten it more
Pearce 6 - Good coming forward, likely better at LB than
Johnson 4 - didn't do much
Goodson 6. - Strong in center defense good distribution out of the back, #3 CB

Posted by: DrJonS | March 3, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Did his majesty, Landon EPL Donovan actually play? Bornstein and Findly have no place on this team. I think Altidore played better than a 5.

Posted by: srose13 | March 3, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I know Beasley got an assist, but Bedoya looks very interesting.

I said this on the previous piece, both Johnson and Findley were useless. Why don't we give that forward spot to Bedoya, and use Donovan and Dempsey interchangeably with Altidore? We'd be much harder to defend against, and wouldn't have to pretend that our other options are useful.

Little disappointed in Torres, and concede that Edu is the better starting option at the moment. Torres should be the offensive sub, Clark the defensive sub. Works for me. (I don't see Feilhaber making it back).

Bornstein, putrid. Could have had the hat trick.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | March 3, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

@JkR -- I agree that the Dutch were playing for fouls, but the USA was playing clutch and grab defense. We deserved the calls we got, though the ref should have carded the Dutch for the Holden injury.

BTW, Boca wasn't the only American to score today. Ibisevic scored for Bosnia.

Posted by: fischy | March 3, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Thinking about buying myself a Torres jersey just for the heck of it.... :-)

Posted by: Juan-John1 | March 3, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like from the defenders brought to Holland, you take off Bornstein and Simek, put on Gooch and Dolo, and that's our D.

The midfield and front seem less defined though, based on Holden's injury, how Dempsey returns, if Davies returns.

Though maybe this post is a bit premature, as I'm guessing Goff covers this later tonight or tomorrow a.m.

Thanks for the play-by-play everyone.

Posted by: eadc | March 3, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say I told you so on Bornstein ...

Over all didn't expect much else from the a European opponent on home soil. On one Bradley tackle in particular the Dutch player was looking to protect himself from injury, rather than try and maintain possession. Some players like Elia tried to impress by meddling with over-matched defenders while others did what they had to do to get by.

Our boys had similar direction-less attack which will happen with Donovan not getting involved and Deuce out injured. If there was an urgency to win it wasn't urged enough by Bob. He claimed they needed to get more involved in the attacking third but me thinks he said "go out and play within the system."

The players and formation he sends out does not allow for attacking! (Aside from set pieces, of course)

Posted by: inzzo79 | March 3, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Fischy, clutch and grab is our style!

I think the Dutch get a little more credit for playing football than they deserved on today's performance.

Sneidjer was class on the ball, though...

Torres = Adu. 1 nice leg, a cultured touch, but a passenger on defense. Maybe he's more useful further up the pitch.

Our wings and forwards faded in and out because they couldn't get the ball without losing shape. All IMHO...YMMV

Posted by: JkR- | March 3, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I thought the Dutch played pretty awful compared to what I am used to seeing from them, which alarms me in terms of the USMNT. For 80 min we couldn't muster anything and we are lucky we never had to deal with any kind of serious, sustained attack from the Dutch.

Frankly, I am skeptical that we could beat Slovenia right now, and of course failure to do so (assuming we lose to England) and advance out of the group stage would be labeled a big disaster thanks to the total idiot that is Alexi Lalas.

We need Gooch and Davies to get healthy and into top playing shape quick. And Landycakes needs to quit disappearing in big games.

A lot of time though before the WC so no time to get too worked up or panic...

Posted by: rademaar | March 3, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Robben and Sneijder are good and they're both pretty much bald. If needed, I can put bald Bob in touch with some American bald guys that still play.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | March 3, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I'd go with SG's ratings, save the following:

DeMerit: 6.5
Torres: 5
Findley: 3
Edu: 6.5

As bad as Bornstein was, the worst player on the field was Findley. Johnson probably pushed ahead of him just by not dying or ceasing to exist during the course of the game.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | March 3, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Robben and Sneijder are good and they're both pretty much bald. If needed, I can put bald Bob in touch with some bald AMERICAN guys that still play.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | March 3, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

sorry if this is a stupid question, but why wasn't cherundolo there?

Posted by: birdynumnum | March 3, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I thought Altidore deserved a little higher rating, he did a decent job winning the ball and winning free kicks.

To answer an above question, Steve Cherundolo is recovering from an injury.

Posted by: LovetheGoffer | March 3, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Cherundolo is coming back from an injury - he should be almost ready to play.

And sorry for the double post - I got an error message the first time.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | March 3, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Kind of comical to see that people believe a different trainer would matter all that much. Fact is, we're still outclassed in technique and vision, and to some extent even physically, by that top tier of sides. Unless you want to go back to Bora ball, where nobody ever goes forward short of a miracle mistake on the part of the opposing defense, this is about as good as it gets.

Posted by: mabindurham | March 3, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

So much for my optimism. Feel real bad for Holden. Hope it isn't as bad as it looked on reply.

Posted by: EssEff | March 3, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

If we let go of the notion that Charlie Davies is not going to be replaced by Findley or Johnson, we should be OK. I thought the Boca-Demerit partnership worked well, actually, though from regular play, Demerit was superior (I don't know why some think he's an underdog to start in the center, he doesn't need to prove himself). Goodson has my vote.

Get well soon, Davies.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | March 3, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else feel like Borntstein is another Agoos in that they are "need to be cut but love the work rate" guys?

Landon has to touch(demand) the ball. His score should be a zero.

Jozy without Davies doesn't have the same swagger. Solid but no flare.

I like Goodson. I wanted to see more of him. I think he is the better option for a reserve or Gooch replacement.

Some one said bring Bedoya, if he gets a few more looks I would totally agree. Beasley also, they seem to make things happen.

Posted by: UniteforDC | March 3, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Findley and Bornstein probably killed their hopes, except the Bob loves Bornstein. We obviously need Gooch back and I think you have to keep Goodson as the #3 center back. Bocanegra can move out to left back, even though his defending today was less than stellar. Spector, Edu & Beasley were the most impressive - but even with that DMB made some very poor decisions.

Posted by: soccerman | March 3, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Bornstein was the only liability. Overall they found themselves more in the second half. And I was supportive of Bradley taking off Donovan. I still think Guch, Boca, Spector, and Demerit are our best back lines. then with Bradley Dempsey and Donovan in the mid. And Altidore up top. The question remains who are the other two players? (Assuming Chuck Deezy can't go)

Posted by: njndirish | March 3, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

i missed from like the 52nd-78th minute due to kid-carting duties, but this is what i saw:

bornstein was simply awful! i don't remember any defenders ever playing worse for us. i don't think he belongs on the national team, but even i was shocked at how bad he was. of course bob bradley will have him starting at the world cup...

demerit was our best player i thought.

landon must be feeling deflated after his weekend fvckup...cause he looked anonymous.

torres looked disappointingly passive. his shot flattered to deceive.

one general impression though: we looked much more competent and dangerous than we looked when we played them in 2004. that makes me feel a little better! :)

Posted by: dfunkt | March 3, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

@fischy: I'm confused, are you telling the Torres supporters to let it go? If so that really is crazy to me, especially if you're going to pin your hopes on a dude who's never even played in a US shirt, let alone trained more than a week with his club team in the last year... Jones ain't gonna make it. I have more faith in Charlie Davies making it to the pitch this summer, and that is a looooooooong shot.

Your post was confusing, I could have read it wrong.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 3, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I would give Holden nothing higher than a 2, He didn't maintain shape on the pitch at all. half the time he was playing, he left his entire side of the field open, by pinching in too far. But I must say over all just poor game managment, which falls back to the coach, and as some one said earlier. We need to bring in a coach who actually knows the game, and will force our players to not be so freakin lazy. You to make runs off the ball instead of running towards the player holding it. and then standing around waiting for the ball to come to them when it is finally passed, allowing for the opponent to close down space and put themselves in better positions.

Posted by: BarraLoco | March 3, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

But I do agree that Edu is a better option to start. He actually looked great considering I was skeptical about his form coming into this game. It's been what seems like an eternity since we've seen much of him. He was pimpin' those chops and mini fro as well!;)

Posted by: DadRyan | March 3, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Findlay and Johnson are hopeless. Bedoya looks interesting. Torres was so-so. Beasley was surpisingly good. The player who impressed me in a short stint was Goodson.

I thought we were overmatched for much of the game, but we dropped back so fast that we gave their midfielders space to do just about anything they wanted to do. When we countered, there were too many errant passes.

Posted by: b18bolo | March 3, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Slightly higher ratings for Beasley, Altidore and Holden, slightly lower for Bocanegra and Bornstein, waaaay lower for Findley.

Altidore's back-heel nutmeg was so sweet. Really a shame he didn't do anything with it afterward.

Posted by: BooThisMan | March 3, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

@Dad -- Let me clarify. If Jones and Davies aren't ready to go for the Cup, Torres is on the roster. I hope, however, that he's not going to see the pitch against a team like England. Torres is a turnover machine. I think he hurts more than he helps. I'm hoping there are better options.

You could say that about the entire back 7, as they played without confidence and any kind of precision that might warrant confidence. They looked scared. Whenever they were pressured, they turned the ball over or passed another teammate into worse trouble. Yeah, Donovan was invisible, but no one could get him the ball. Eventually the USA abandoned the midfield and started shooting the ball over the top, with the forwards playing in the middle of the field. Not a prescription for a potent offense.

I'm guessing Torres played himself out of a starting shot, and Spector might have done the same. With Bornstein looking so overmatched, Spector might get a shot on the left, but I'm betting BB looks at other options (Boca or Pearce). Of course, all that is dependent on the health of certain players. Injuries could tie BB's hands.

Posted by: fischy | March 3, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Just finished watching on the DVR. My thoughts in a nutshell: I feel bad for Holden having his day cut short by a horrible tackle, good thing it's just a bruise. Torres was disappointing and seemed lost most of the first half. The defense as a whole was shaky. I think Bornstein was actually our best defender if you take out the stupid unnecessary penalty, of course. I'd liked to have seen more of Pearce, but that would put Bornstein in the middle and that isn't very convincing. Also disappointed not to see Simek at all. Welcome back DeMarcus Beasley, nice to know you can still play at a high level with the national team. Robbie Findley is way out of his league and Eddie Johnson looks like his boots are made of stone. Altidore on the other hand was solid and confident.

In a small way the Nats are like DC United in that neither has a true attacking midfielder. Bradley, Clark, Edu, Torres are not the answer. Donovan is better on the flank like Dempsey (or up top). Benny Feilhaber seems most likely to fit there but his play has been inconsistent. Maybe Holden at some point in the future? Not this World Cup but maybe in 2014? To me, this is our biggest hole if we really want to compete on the national level. Clearly this is easier said than done.

Having said all this, I do think our play today was fairly encouraging considering how many regular starters were missing. We didn't really look good until very late in the game when subs had come on for the Dutch, but they didn't run all over us early as I feared they might, either. And if Bornstein hadn't had a brain fart, who knows how the game would have shaken out. If we can get back Dempsey, Onyewu, Feilhaber, Cherundolo, Clark, and possibly even the other striker guy whose name I don't want to mention for fear of jinxing the thing, we'll be a pretty competitive team come June.

Posted by: CYork1 | March 3, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why everyone was so impressed with Beasley.

He was basically invisible for large portions of the game. He was back to his old trick of trying to take people on the dribble 1v1. He just isn't good enough to do that.

He needs to be running in space and taking the dribble down the side. He's just not strong enough or skilled enough to beat people in the middle of the field.

He was better towards the end, but to me he's still behind Torres, Feilhaber and especially Holden. Holden was probably the best US player on the field until he got hurt.

Posted by: thegoche | March 3, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I thought Torres was solid to good.

Edu looked really solid and cool in there. I like him, especially as he get some more game form.

Findlay was pretty poor, but Eddie Johnson was awful.

I did like Bedoya. I don't see him on the field in this WC, but I wouldn't mind him on the 23.

And Jay Demerit was the best player for the US today.

And other than the goal, Bocanegra was pretty mediocre to poor. I'd have him behind Onyewu and Demerit at CB right now. And he's too slow for LB against a good team.

Posted by: thegoche | March 3, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

In general, I thought in the first half we actually showed some solid shape, and a little tiny glimmer of smart possession. We just were not dangerous at all.

But it was much better than say Italy or Brazil in the first two Confed Cup games. We are at our worst when we try to bunker up and play with no shape and a really low line of confrontation.

Today we held a solid shape and kept the pressure up to some extent. And when we got the ball we generally didn't give it back as quick as usual.

Still, got to get some spark. And we have got to shore up that left side or the shape doesn't matter.

Posted by: thegoche | March 3, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

it's not entirely fair to pile on findley or anyone else on the top line. we could not effectively transition the ball through midfield and once the ball was up top could not effectively support our forwards. having said that, findley is definitely not wc material. we did play within the system, but if we are relegated to this system, we might as well declare ourselves italy wannabees. we need to expose every weakness in our opponent and have very fit midfielders who are willing and able to go forward and get back on defense. nothing else is acceptable. believe me, bradley is more than aware of this.

Posted by: papple | March 3, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Fischy, I hope we one day see great, fluid, creative, attacking soccer from the US, if only to piss you off.

Your joy at Torres so-so first half is merely an indication that you think the sport is more in the vein of the triathlon than the Beautiful game. And maybe another reason why we see so few offensively gifted players here in the states, when the only attribute Some Americans admire is grit, athletic dominance, and mindless hustle.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | March 3, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I was really disappointed in Donovan, and I felt that Bocanegra's defensive play was at a lower standard than what we'd like in a starting centerback and captain (but, I'm not a Bocanegra fan and might be inclined to judge him harshly).

I also thought the Dutch were a bunch of hypocritical diving whiners -- no doubt, Bornstein was an idiot for touching Sneijder in the 18, but the flopping in conjunction with hard tackles really pissed me off.

But let's hope the England squad goes to South Africa thinking like this Guardian post-match guy does so we can give them a very rude awakening: "The Dutch showed that the US need hold no fears for England when they open their World Cup campaign on 12 June." Too much to hope for when Capello's their coach?

Posted by: sec133row5 | March 3, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

@UnitedDemon -- I take no joy in criticizing Torres, or, to be more accurate, to point out what I see are his failings. I've got nothing against the fluid, Latin style of play. When I was growing up, my greatest exposure to professional football was the Mexican brand I saw every year when I visited family. As a short, speedy midfielder myself, that's how I preferred to play. I just don't think Torres is a great practitioner -- maybe good enough to get playing time in the Mexican League, but not at the World Cup level.

Plus, it really doesn't work well if just one guy is playing that way. I'd love to see the USA play the "Ole" game passing it around and around, trying to punch a hole in the defense. That's not how these guys play. They stink at the possession game. Look at the El Salvador game -- the USA probably had 85% of the possession, and had to scramble for 2 late goals, which they got by running down the wing and pressuring the defense with crosses.

Maybe with other guys around him that play his style, Torres might be more effective...but, I'm not convinced. It's not like he's one of Pachuca's star players.

Posted by: fischy | March 3, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

As for my affection for the Latin style -- check out my posts. I feel pretty confident in saying I've been the biggest supporter for Christian Gomez in this blog, and what I think he can do for this team. I'd rather see him directing the attack than Quaranta or Szetela. I'd like to see United play his style, because I think it works better...assuming there are other players adept at that style.

Posted by: fischy | March 3, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I thought Demerit looked good. Spector was okay. Boca looking to avoid a mistake, that goal should help. Bornstien; not good enough to carry water. I thought Torres looked solid. Bradley conceeded way too much space defensively. Edu good, beasley, holden,bedoya good. Donovan off. Jose solid to good. findley and Johnson, we should have left them both at home and brought Adu. He offers tremendously more to the final 1/3 and steps up in big games. Formation wise we should look at a 4-3-3

Posted by: m20001 | March 3, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who gave Altidore a 5 or less, watch the game again. He may not have scored or create a lot of chances, but he played with class. He held the ball and kept possession. He had no service and his partner (Findley) was not effective. Altidore almost scored in injury time. Altidore deserved at least a six. I really think that Bornstein was garbage (just stating the obvious). I hope this game tells Bradley the following: Edu should start, Pearce or Spector at LB, and Holden can start. I think the US played ok. We need to concentrate on the details, but I like the way this side is coming together.

Posted by: no_recess | March 3, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh by the way DeJong has no class and should have been red carded for his awful challenge! What a tool!

Posted by: no_recess | March 3, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

@fischy- There's a contradiction there; Gomez was the one who needed more creative people around him, but that's the problem with playmakers in MLS, you can't afford to back them up or support them, and when they have an off day, it gums up everything.

The national team is different. We've had success, but playing as we have will only take us so far. We need someone who can keep possession and string the passes together. We've got players with some skill and speed, but they need the ball. So unless you want Klejstan on that goddamn plane, I'd start rooting for the gringo.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | March 3, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

@Demon -- I'm rooting for Jermaine Jones to heal fast and stay healthy.

Posted by: fischy | March 3, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

" So unless you want Klejstan on that goddamn plane, I'd start rooting for the gringo."

That pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 3, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I really hope that in South Africa Bob Bradley plays his best 11 available regardless of the formation that it fits into.

Tonight, that could've been starting Maurice Edu for Robbie Findley and I guarantee the US would have started the game better.

I still question whether Bob Bradley should be the head coach for the US. It's too late to make a change now. I hope he enjoys the next couple of months because if the US wins in South Africa it will probably be in spite of rather than because of Mr. Bradley.

Posted by: diego_r | March 3, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

The glaring things that jumped out at me:

Bornstein held his own for most of the game, but made a critical error. This could be enough to keep him off the team.

Landon took the game off. He had nothing to play for and it showed.

DMB showed flashes of his old self (the good parts) but also showed a clear lack of first team football. He needs to win a job back with Rangers if he's going to help us at all in the next 4 months. (Ditto for Johnson)

Edu & Holden could be the young, hungry players we need.

Torres, Bedoya - eh.

Findley doesn't have the speed of play at this level right now.

Everyone else played pretty much as I expected.

Posted by: SoccerVA | March 3, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I can't comprehend what Bob Bradley sees in Bornstein. How on earth could he have taken Demerit out and moved Bornstein into central defense after the mistakes he made?

Posted by: joe_hill | March 4, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

@diego r and joe hill -- IMO, you're being way too hard on Bradley. I think it's kinda silly to be criticizing a coach, because this was a pre-WC camp friendly. For all that, the US didn't do too badly, giving up 2 soft goals and nearly tying it up.

I can't believe I have to point this out, but it's a friendly. The point wasn't to win. Bradley was missing half his preferred starting lineup due to injuries (Davies, Deuce, Dolo, Gooch and Rico -- not to mention the possibility of the injured Jermaine Jones). Bradley doesn't know who will be healthy and in form in June. He was trying to figure out what he can do in their absence, in case they (or others) are not available in the Cup.

Why start Findley? Because he's trying to find out who's up to playing forward if Davies and maybe Deuce can't go. Why sub him out? Because Bradley saw all he needed to see. Barring even more injuries, Findley's not going to SA.

Why sub out DeMerit when he was playing so well? Maybe because he was playing so well? Bradley had seen all he needed to see. JayDee's got the job. Bornstein wasn't doing it on the flank, so he moved him inside for a bit -- trying to figure out whether Bornstein's an option there, or whether he goes with Goodson.

Posted by: fischy | March 4, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I've only seen 33 minutes, so I can barely comment, but...

I'm not ready to give up on Torres. I thought he was a revelation in the qualifiers when he got to play (in the middle).

no_recess: dead on about Jozy. He did what he could do. In fact, he was better at holding the ball than with Hull.

Posted by: Reignking | March 4, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Some generous player ratings...question is, except for Altidore, the critical points of execution were missed on more than several occasions. Where was LD? Was he ill? He disappeared when the team most needed him.

Posted by: juke2 | March 4, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Some generous player ratings...question is, except for Altidore, the critical points of execution were missed on more than several occasions. Where was LD? Was he ill? He disappeared when the team most needed him. The ref should have been more in control, because it was a friendly, doesn't mean that players can take extra shots.

Posted by: juke2 | March 4, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

If Bornstein doesn't get sacked, the coach should get sacked.

Has Bob Bradley paid attention to Donovan's Everton performances? He's drawing the raves in England for his play on the right side, not the left. Bradley should have put him there, with Beasley on the left. Or have put Donovan up top instead of Findley.

All in all though, the homestanding Orange beat USA on two very cheap goals and some substandard reffing.

Posted by: runningcloud | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Bradley, Donovan, Beasley, Demerrit, and Altidore, Boca looked like they belonged. Torres, Bedoya showed flashes and were pretty solid. Findley showed a lack of touch and an inability to control the ball under pressure. Goodson almost scored in his 6 minutes and I would've liked to see more of him out there. Bornstein -- what can you say? Poor decision cost us the first goal and he offered nothing going forward. No shame in being beat by the likes of Robben and the second goal/deflection was bad luck. Still, I'm amazed at the over-respect shown the Dutch team and our overall lack of confidence on the ball -- in simply controling and maintaining posession for more than 3 touches. It's demoralizing. If it weren't for dead ball opportunities, we'd never score against these guys.

Posted by: morecowbell | March 4, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

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