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With the World Cup approaching, our Sunday roundup is now limited to players in contention for a U.S. roster slot, well-known veterans and other notable performances. Oguchi Onyewu (AC Milan), Stuart Holden (Bolton) and Charlie Davies (Sochaux) are recuperating from long-term injuries.
GOALKEEPERS
Tim Howard 90 minutes in Everton's 2-1 win over Fulham
Marcus Hahnemann 90 in Wolves' 1-1 tie with Blackburn
(Former D.C. United defender Ryan Nelsen scored for Rovers)

Brad Guzan in 18, didn't play in Aston Villa's 1-0 win over Birmingham
Brad Friedel 90 for Aston Villa


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DEFENDERS
Carlos Bocanegra 90 in Rennes' 1-1 tie at PSG
Jonathan Spector 90 (own goal) in West Ham's 3-2 win over Wigan
Jay DeMerit not in 18 (abdominal injury) for Watford's 3-0 win over Reading

Steve Cherundolo 85 in Hanover's 3-0 loss at Leverkusen
Clarence Goodson 90 in Start's 2-0 win over Honefoss (2 own goals)
Frank Simek not in 18 for Sheffield Wednesday's 3-2 loss at Cardiff
Edgar Castillo not in 18 (injured) in Tigres' 2-1 loss to Pachuca
MIDFIELDERS
Michael Bradley 90 in Moenchengladbach's 1-1 tie with Bayern Munich
Clint Dempsey 90 in Fulham's 2-1 loss at Everton
Maurice Edu 90 in Rangers' 1-0 win at Hibernian
(Rangers clinch Scottish league title)
Jose Francisco Torres 35 in Pachuca's 2-1 win at Tigres
Ricardo Clark 90 in Eintract Frankfurt's 3-3 tie at Mainz
Benny Feilhaber 90 in Aarhus' 3-0 loss to Koge
Alejandro Bedoya 90 in Orebro's 3-0 win over Halmstad
DaMarcus Beasley not in 18 for Rangers
FORWARDS
Jozy Altidore 45 (red card) in Hull's 1-0 loss to Sunderland
Herculez Gomez not in 18 (suspension) for Puebla's match at Toluca
Freddy Adu 7 in Aris' 1-0 loss to Panathinaikos in Greek Cup final
Eddie Johnson didn't play for Aris
Kenny Cooper not in 18 for Plymouth's 3-0 loss at Nottingham Forest


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By Steve Goff  |  April 25, 2010; 1:55 PM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad  | Tags: AC Milan, Aston Villa, Brad Guzan, Carlos Bocanegra, Charlie Davies, Clint Dempsey, DaMarcus Beasley, Eddie Johnson, Frank Simek, Freddy Adu, Jonathan Spector, Jose Francisco Torres, Jozy Altidore, Maurice Edu, Tim Howard, World Cup, soccer  
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According to the BBC, Edu had the assist on Rangers' goal today.

Posted by: grabowcp | April 25, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

can demerit stop being hurt?!

can't complain about our midfield though.

Posted by: crocken | April 25, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Was that two own goals from Goodson or two own goals for his team? Either way it must have been a struggle.

Yeah for Freddy!!!!!

Posted by: grubbsbl | April 25, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

can't find a feed for Sounders/TFC anywhere.. anyone gotta link?

Posted by: DadRyan | April 25, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dukez | April 25, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

This is actually a continuation of a discussion from a previous thread. It seems that at least one person who posts here regularly is still unaware that MLS has altered its schedule in light of the World Cup, even though that move was announced over seven months ago, and it was discussed at length, here and elsewhere, both before and after the official announcement. I am curious as to whether there are others who have not yet gotten the news:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/09/mls_will_take_world_cup_break.html

This same person believes that no more than five or six MLS players will be going to South Africa. As I recall, in the past the 23-player USA squad has been roughly evenly split between MLS and foreign-based players. In addition, there is usually a handful of MLS players representing other countries, is there not?

Posted by: universityandpark | April 25, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Thanks dukez, unfortunately that feed wasn't working for me.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 25, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Universityandpark.... I knew this information. As for the MLS players I could see 5-7 being on this years roster. There have been a handful of players but I think it might be down this year because Trinidad and Tobago and Costa Rico usually have players in MLS. I do not know how many Hondurans are in the league that will go. I could be wrong though.

Posted by: grubbsbl | April 25, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Do we really have 16-18 overseas players who could be selected? I thought there might be a Kiwi or two, and perhaps a a player or two with an African side. Four of the African teams (Cameroon, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa) are currently represented in MLS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_MLS_players

Posted by: universityandpark | April 25, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Howard, Guzan, Hahnemann

Spector, Dolo, Gooch, Boca, Goodson, DeMerit

Clark, Edu, Bradley, Dempsey, Holden, Feilhaber, Torres

Altidore

That's 17 who are all pretty much locks. Plus you still have Johnson, Beasley, Bedoya, Davies, Gomez and Adu (maybe a stretch) all with outside shots.

Posted by: grubbsbl | April 25, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Spector now has had two hideous run outs for WHU. Dip in form, or playing as good as he can?

Does Jozy play against England, seeing as how he couldn't score in England this year?

Can Bob Bradley justify taking players who routinely ride the pine in Europe? Match fitness has to account for something.

Is Clint going to finish runner-up in yet another tournament this year? He's had quite a busy two year run up to the WC. If some of our players are underplayed, Dempsey has been overplayed to the max.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | April 25, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Jay. I will say Spector has a dip in form. He is probably nervous in the relegation battle. And, no one from West Ham looked good against Liverpool.

Of coarse we start Altidore. Who else do we have? His hold up play us improved drastically over this season. Plus Altidore was not getting chances at Hull because their service was awful. If he was continually blowing chances then I would be concerned. Lastly, I do not know who else to start, lol.

It sucks but I think you have to take players who have not played a lot. They are simply better than MLS players who play a lot.

I think Clint will be fine. I would bet him to score against England. Just the type of player he is.

Posted by: grubbsbl | April 25, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

In international player news you have to give a shout out to Gunnar Nielsen. How many times do announcers in top European leagues get to say "Faroe Islands international". The 48 thousand people of the Faroe Islands found themselves a new national sports hero on Saturday.

Posted by: csd1 | April 25, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Plus Altidore was not getting chances at Hull because their service was awful.
Posted by: grubbsbl | April 25, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

If people keep repeating this, maybe it will come true one day. Fagan, Folan and Vennegoor of Hesselink all have more than one goal. VoH has appeared in one more game than Jozy. The other two in significantly less. He had one goal with Villareal, too. I contend he's just not good enough to play at the highest level. The England game will be the highest level.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | April 25, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't there a Philadelphia/Washington WPS Matchday entry today?

Posted by: croftonpost | April 25, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

@Jay!

He [Jozy] had one goal with Villareal, too. I contend he's just not good enough to play at the highest level.

But, of course, that is not the question. The question is which US forwards are better than Jozy st they start ahead of him at the WC. And the answer is none.

Posted by: glfrazier | April 25, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't there a Philadelphia/Washington WPS Matchday entry today?

Posted by: croftonpost | April 25, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse
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The Freedom scored first but then got their butts spanked with 3 unanswered to go down 3-1. All three Philly assists were by players the Freedom let go, one by Lohman and two by LORI LINDSEY THE US WNT CENTER MID WHO IS NOT AS GOOD AS TEN FREEDOM PLAYERS AND THEREFORE WAS NOT PROTECTED.

I mean seriously, what is the story with that? There must be some explanation because no one in their right mind would say that Lindsey was the ELEVENTH best player on the Freedom last year.

Gabarra and his brain trust are whack.

Posted by: OWNTF | April 25, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Although I suppose the real answer to your question croftonpost is that very few people care that much.

Sorry to repeat the Lindsey rant, wont happen again.

Posted by: OWNTF | April 25, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

The Hutton guy involved in Jozy's red card should be castrated. What a pathetic display. First throwing the ball at Jozy on the ground, then flopping to the ground like Jozy hit him across the face with a baseball bat...

Hutton's a pathetic wretch.

Posted by: DEFPOTEC1 | April 25, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

OWNTF,

Could it have been a payroll issue? I completely agree with you as to her status on the roster.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 25, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Although I suppose the real answer to your question croftonpost is that very few people care that much.

Sorry to repeat the Lindsey rant, wont happen again.

Posted by: OWNTF | April 25, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're wrong. As an active volunteer in youth soccer both as a coach and a board member, I think it is very important that the WPS succeed. Personally, I care a lot more about the Freedom than I do about Inter Milan.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 25, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I hope I'm wrong too, but attendance is down across the league, which is not good. And personally I think the Freedom style is rather boring which isn't going to help matters. I mean, this coach has one of the most exciting players in the league, who absolutely lit it up last year, and is a fan favorite, and he pulls her out of the midfield and puts her at . . . left back in a 4-5-1?

Posted by: OWNTF | April 25, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I care a lot more about the Freedom than I do about Inter Milan.
Posted by: croftonpost
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+1 I go to more Freedom matches than Euro matches. And +1 to OWNTF. The Freedom are much more exciting to watch when Bompastor is moving forward. You're always anticipating something good happening and that's important for the fans.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | April 25, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

The Hutton guy involved in Jozy's red card should be castrated. What a pathetic display. First throwing the ball at Jozy on the ground, then flopping to the ground like Jozy hit him across the face with a baseball bat...
Hutton's a pathetic wretch.
Posted by: DEFPOTEC1 | April 25, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse
What are you talking about flopping on the ground? Jozy chipped the guys tooth, slashed his face, castrated his dog, slept with his wife, killed the easter bunny and canceled Christmas for millions of young British children all in that one play. Wasn’t it obvious that Hutton was trying to be kind to Jozy by handing him the ball while he was still on the ground so he could throw it in quicker and get the game going again?

It’s players like Jozy that are destroying the good global name of English football. These thugs need to be kicked out of the league (and come back to the states to save DCU now that Hull won’t need him)!

Off season Jozy, think about us!

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 25, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

That's 17 who are all pretty much locks. Plus you still have Johnson, Beasley, Bedoya, Davies, Gomez and Adu (maybe a stretch) all with outside shots.
Posted by: grubbsbl
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Ching, Casey, Bornstein.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | April 25, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

What's with the Freedom's situation in goal? Scurry started in goal, and then was replaced at the start of the second half by someone whom I've never heard of. The broadcast crew for the national telecast from St. Louis mentioned in passing that Spisak, last year's understudy, is now at Athletica.

I watched the simulcast of the FSC telecast on my 'puter at a remote location. That is a really nice enhancement to the WPS site. (However, they referred to Tina Ellertson as "Ellerton" several times, and they said Carolyn Blank was from the "University of West Virginia.") I followed the other two matches, including the Freedom game, via matchtracker.

Posted by: universityandpark | April 25, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

McLeod was on nat team duty as was the Philly starting keeper.

Posted by: OWNTF | April 25, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Shout out to Bradley, who made a brilliant flick to set up M'gladbach's goal against Bayern.

As for the debate about Altidore, I think we have to play him since there is really nobody else. I mean according to the list above our players scored 3 goals- and all in the wrong net.

Posted by: rademaar | April 25, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I hate to be disrespectful to all those who question whether Jozy should start for the national team or not based on the fact that he only scored one goal in EPL this year, but you are a bunch of MORONS! The first thing you should take into consideration is that the EPL is one of the best leagues in the world. Next the kid is 20 years old. Also look at the club he played for. They were awful and will be regulated after one season in the EPL. He had no service and did not play consistenlty until about half way into the season. These are not excuses, but facts. Stats don't mean everything. I think he made huge strides this year, but the his sending off last game puts a blemish on a solid season. I would like to ask those of you who doubt Jozy's ability to be a starter. Who would you start in his place?

Posted by: no_recess | April 26, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

hey Goff - why do you or anyone for that matter still consider Freddy Adu someone who could make the World Cup squad? its about time you take him off the list since he never warranted being on the list in the first place

Posted by: GraciasRiquelme | April 26, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Disastrous end to a bad season for Jozy. I guess he'll be able to get the hell out of Hull early now - get him back here so he can start focusing on the Cup.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 26, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Goodson's team IK Start won on 2 own goals 2-0 and he was named MOTM by the local newspaper again.

Posted by: euroman | April 26, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

SO wait, when it says "own goal" in the list above does that mean the player scored an own goal or the opposing team did?

Posted by: rademaar | April 26, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

@GraciasRiquelme : Adu has that extra element of unpredictablity that can give us another dimension. Sure most of us don't expect him to play 90 mins, but even 5 - 10 mins he can be a difference maker. How many difference makers do we have other than Davies and Dempsey? Everyone knows what Donovan can and can't do. You will never see Donovan dribble past players using individual skill like Adu, Davies or Dempsey.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | April 26, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

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