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Davies remains in consideration for World Cup

Bob Bradley, coach of the U.S. national soccer team, has not ruled out inviting Charlie Davies to World Cup training camp, despite the news from France today that the forward will not play for Sochaux in any of the five remaining league matches.

"We are all very proud of the determination and the attitude that Charlie has displayed throughout his rehabilitation process," Bradley said. "It has always been understood that the timing of his return to playing would be difficult to predict. We are continuing to keep track of his progress as we look to make the final decisions on the training camp roster for next month."


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By Steve Goff  |  April 22, 2010; 3:14 PM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad , France , U.S. men's national team  | Tags: Bob Bradley, Charlie Davies, FIFA World Cup, France, Sochaux, World Cup, soccer  
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Good choice. But then, not many options available.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | April 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

A tremendous story.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | April 22, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's because the Sochaux president was quoted, but I bet Sochaux's insurance company is probably paying Davies' salary this year because of the injury and if he plays another minute this year for them or the U.S., the club will have to take over payments. This is probably a cost-savings for Sochaux, more than anything else.

Posted by: IamAM | April 22, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Look -- Davies is coming back from a horrific trauma. According to an article in that other SI, he was sent for tests recently, because of abdominal pain. He's not even in contact drills. If he's not playing for Sochaux this year, it's because he's not gong to be ready. As someone noted in the other thread, he might be ready to play a month later. If he is, it's probably worth taking him. On the other hand, even that has to be dependent on the level of sharpness he shows. If he's not playing, he's not going to have the requisite sharpness or condition.

There was a remark from a baseball player, Lance Berkman, who got his first action this week. After a double, he tried to steal third, thinking it would be totally unexpected. He was easily thrown out. He said he was surprised at how weak his previously injured leg was. If he'd known, he'd never have tried. You can't build up for something as physically rigorous as soccer, if you're not actually playing hard in practice. If Davies is able to start serious practice in the USA camp, he should probably go...unless his touch has completely disappeared. If not, I don't see how you can take him in hopes that you might get some quality minutes in a later game. Great story, or not. Davies, in competitive shape, is better than our other options. If he's not in competitive shape, he's not really even an option.

Posted by: fischy | April 22, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I hope he continues to comeback and defy the odds. Also, hopefully Onyewu gets a game or two. We still have a lot of player in contention for the World Cup who have not played a lot this year.

Posted by: grubbsbl | April 22, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

fischy makes a good point. However, I think it's safe to say that Bradley will wait until absolutely the last minute to rule Davies out. Given his quality compared to the rest of our forward options, he should be given every opportunity to make the squad. The odds are still long (that abdominal pain is especially unsettling), but the door should not be closed until regulations require it.

There is also the psychological aspect of having him there, not just as a cheerleader but with a jersey number. I can't speak for our players, but I know seeing a guy that has gone through that much on my team would be a tremendous source of inspiration.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | April 22, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

And the Astros desperately need Berkman's offense...like the US needs Davies, really.

Posted by: Reignking | April 22, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see CD9 on the field if he's able to contribute.

I keep thinking of John O'Brien being named to the 2006 squad. It was an overly hopeful reach by a coach who desperately wanted the 2002 JOB to be on the team, even when that player was not available. I hope Bob will make a conservative choice on Charlie, keeping him off the roster unless it's clear as day that he'll be able to contribute in June.

Posted by: mosler | April 22, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Raul hinting today that he isn't retiring in June but will leave RM.

Posted by: Reignking | April 22, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

They'll call him in, but if he's not ready to go 90 minutes, don't bother bringing him in.

And the calls for his presence on the bench b/c he would be an inspiring figure/story are a bit weak. You shouldn't need that kind of motivation for the World Cup. But you do need 23 players ready to play every game.

Posted by: delantero | April 22, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

The good news is recovering from injuries. Davies has more than 1 month to get back to race pace, and play friendlies with USA before the tournament will come in handy. Goff, we hope to soon have new Onyewu, please.

Posted by: noonan_17 | April 22, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Even if he can't go 90, I think he's worth bringing for that extra spark (if he is fit enough to provide said spark, obviously). Davies at 50% is better than some of our options at 100

Posted by: carmines757 | April 22, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Even if he can't go 90, I think he's worth bringing for that extra spark (if he is fit enough to provide said spark, obviously). Davies at 50% (60? 70? We don't know) is better than some of our options at 100

Posted by: carmines757 | April 22, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Better chances: Chuck Deezy seeing the field in South Africa or Seattle having more fans in Frisco tonight?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 22, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree with fischy more. Your going to bring a player who hasn't played a match in how long to a world cup against top players in top form?

I would go with Donovan's recomendations of bringing some extra ammo from the Galaxy (Buddle anyone?) over a player who stays out past curfew with drunk friends the night before a WC qualifier.

Yeah its a great comeback story but he still screwed up. He will get another chance in 2014 and hopefully he will be prepared and in top form for that WC.

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 22, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Great my first comment for Southeasterner got sucked up...

In a nut shell: Please stop passing judgement on the Davies wreck until a later date. You may have never made a mistake in your life, but most of us have. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Bradley takes ten years to tell us the truth about the fact that Davies was injured, wasn't going to see the pitch at RFK, and he had permission to visit with friends in DC, but maybe for the benefit of guys like you and GeneWells he'll spill the beans after the World Cup. ..

He wasn't out at a club making it rain, he wasn't brandishing a weapon, he was trying to get back to his hotel room. We all know that went WAY wrong. Blame the idiot chick messing with her GPS late at night on the GW Parkway, not the freaking passenger. I'm so sick of this morality police squad out here crucifying kids for making mistakes. The dude is lucky to be alive, if he can make it back.

And BTW the crash happened early on a Tuesday morning after a Monday night out. Not "the night before a World Cup Qualifier". FTW.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Great my first comment for Southeasterner got sucked up...

In a nut shell: Please stop passing judgement on the Davies wreck until a later date. You may have never made a mistake in your life, but most of us have. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Bradley takes ten years to tell us the truth about the fact that Davies was injured, wasn't going to see the pitch at RFK, and he had permission to visit with friends in DC, but maybe for the benefit of guys like you and GeneWells he'll spill the beans after the World Cup. ..

He wasn't out at a club making it rain, he wasn't brandishing a weapon, he was trying to get back to his hotel room. We all know that went WAY wrong. Blame the idiot chick messing with her GPS late at night on the GW Parkway, not the freaking passenger. I'm so sick of this morality police squad out here crucifying kids for making mistakes. The dude is lucky to be alive, if he can make it back.

And BTW the crash happened early on a Tuesday morning after a Monday night out. Not "the night before a World Cup Qualifier". FTW.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Ok so as a coach you can tell Buddle sorry I can't put you on the squad even though you are the leading scorer on your squad and Donovan (our captain) raves about you, because Davies may be healthy enough to play and even though he hasn't played a league match since the middle of 2009 we need him on the squad?

Sorry not buying it. It has nothing to do with moral policing and everything to do with not playing and not being in top form for the WC.

And for the record:

“The players were subject to a team curfew Monday night, said U.S. Soccer spokesman Neil Buethe, and Davies apparently was in violation. “

Monday night, Tuesday night, whatever it was before a qualifying match and he blew curfew.

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 22, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Look man, when YOU brought up his violation of curfew being reason enough to cast him aside you got off the subject of his form. I personally, even with my eternal optimism am very pessimistic that Charlie is ever going to have what he used to have. I'm also just as tired as the Davies jock riders that believe that NO MATTER WHAT he deserves a spot in the team. I'm in the middle somewhere.

This case reminds me a lot of the stupid Harkes/Wynalda jibber jabber, because regardless of what was reported in the press or what anyone has said on record, years later a slightly different truth has emerged. Hindsight is 20/20. Davies knew he wasn't going to play. He also knew he should have plenty of opportunity to let a little bending of the rules blow over had he not been in a horrific crash.

You keep contradicting yourself too by the way. One moment you say it's not about moral policing, and then two sentences later you condemn his action even though you can't seem to sort out exactly when the hell the crash happened. Glad you're not my dad. Sheesh.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 22, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying its just moral policing or just lack of playing time. I'm saying its both.

Its not a contradiction I just don't know which one is more of the reason. Right now I'm leaning 80% because he hasn't played and 20% because he blew off the coaches rules but I think either one is a valid reason.

On my college squad we were benched for 3 games if we ever blew curfew, no questions asked, but we were young and irresponsible and probably needed these rules...and yes I wish you had been my coach.

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 23, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Sometimes, abdominal pain is just gas, and "tests" are just bloodwork and sonograms. You don't need to have nearly killed yourself in a car crash for your belly to be achin'.

After all... Look at Southeasterner. Still carrying on about being out too late.

Posted by: mason08 | April 23, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Sometimes, abdominal pain is just gas, and "tests" are just bloodwork and sonograms. You don't need to have nearly killed yourself in a car crash for your belly to be achin'.

After all... Look at Southeasterner. Still carrying on about being out too late.

Posted by: mason08 | April 23, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey in my day we played soccer in 8 feet of snow with rubber sandals kicking a five pound rock and if we complained about it coach would beat us with a crowbar.

These days kids get away with everything.

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 23, 2010 5:23 AM | Report abuse

@Southeasterner, no hard feelings brother. Charlie screwed up and it is very disappointing, and my feelings on his inclusion in the WC squad are probably right about where you are in terms of the %80, %20 you mention.

It's frustrating seeing gifted people screw their lives up doing stupid stuff, I just hope he's given the opportunity to redeem himself a little if he's physically capable.

Again, I do think the US National team should be held to a high standard, but college kids should actually be held even more accountable for their actions. Gotta discipline them while you can. Once they're pros it's gotta become pretty difficult if they make it so.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 23, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Davies per twitter "I have some good news to tell you all! Let you know soon enough! Thank you for all the support and blessings!"

Posted by: emanon13 | April 25, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

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