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Poll: D.C. United's 0-4 record

By Steve Goff  |  April 19, 2010; 3:47 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United , Poll  | Tags: D.C. United  
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I voted for all of the above, but the FO and coaching staff deserve most of the blame. After all, you can only ask a player to play to the best of his ability.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | April 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

You said it I270. It was pretty obvious to many of us before the season that we didn't have the horses. And many of us also had doubts about Onalfo. Now it's looking like the FO missed on both fronts. I used to be a big Kevin Paine fan. Now my support is starting to wane. It's been a long time since we had a legit team here in DC. And lots of bad moves in between.

Posted by: Matte | April 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I voted for FO. All of the above was my next choice.

Posted by: grubbsbl | April 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Everyone in the org owes the fans an apology

The players deserve blame for not shooting the ball and not playing together, especially Jaime. There have been at least a dozen times when he could have made a pass to an open teammate, but instead decided to take on 2 or more defenders.

The coach deserves blame for some of his lineups and for not making better adjustments.

The front office deserves a ton of blame for not having a deeper midfield and finding some speed upfront.

Posted by: emjay613 | April 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm with I-270. I voted for all but I rank the incompetence and guilt in the following order:

1)FO (Payne)
2)Curt O.

Posted by: yankiboy | April 19, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The FO hired a coach that most everyone knew wasn't for the job. I don't blame the coach; the job is above him.

The players just aren't a high quality group. They're starting a 17 year old in center mid. Come on.

The fact that this FO put this whole team together and expects them to win is mind boggling.

Posted by: BigBubba1 | April 19, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey Goff--there you go again- You press guys-- why do you have to focus on the negative and make things seem like they are so bad???

But that is ok. Curt O and the boys are gonna use all of the press' negativity to make them "stronger".

Ok. Curt. The poll is up and you and the FO are going to get pummelled.

When do you guys gonna start with the looking "stronger" part???

We only hope and pray that is it soon--say like the very next game the team plays. And that you continue to all get "stronger".

Posted by: yankiboy | April 19, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Despite what they say, I can't believe that they honestly expect to win with this lot.

Posted by: CYork1 | April 19, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

not going to play the blame game. I want this team to succeed and it doesn't appear any of these 3 are doing their job very well. Very disappointing start to the season.

Posted by: The_Dude_Abides1 | April 19, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm being the pessimist here, but this whole thing is starting to look like "Major League - the MLS edition". More than 18,000 out there on Saturday night, out drawing the Nats and the Orioles (according to the WaPo box scores) and on a night when the best team in hockey had a home playoff game. That is tremendous support! And what do we see today? Talk about a transfer window in July and mumbling about how morale is "not even a concern". Are you kidding?

I'm really starting to believe that MLS and the owner are going to let this wither on the vine until they can move the club.

Posted by: harkes4ever | April 19, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

harkes4ever, you going to Europe?

Posted by: Reignking | April 19, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Would be interesting to see where the training/medical staff would rank. Still clearly behind FO in my book, but possibly #2.

Posted by: benonthehill | April 19, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

IIRC we were pretty healthy last year.

Posted by: Reignking | April 19, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Reignking - Nope. Flight last Thursday cancelled, re booked for tonight, also cancelled. The next available flight is Friday, but I have to be back on Sunday - so that's out. I'll try again around Labor Day. Probably contributing to my pessimisstic mood.

But this is new - I had reserved tickets for the Fulham match this past Saturday - and the Europa league match in Hamburg on Thursday. I e mailed the club when my flights were cancelled about giving my tickets to a friend in London, and they actually refunded my money! Don't think I'd ever heard of that here in the States!

Posted by: harkes4ever | April 19, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Man I went to the game Saturday night and I still couldn't tell you who was playing in the middle of the field for DCU. Oh I guess it was our 17 year old kid. How surprising that we had the most boring, ineffective attack since the last days of Rongen.

Posted by: jva1 | April 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I blame Luciano Emilio, Christian Gomez and Fred.

Posted by: OWNTF | April 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Gomez only went 61 minutes this weekend. Shut out by Jay Nolly.

Posted by: Reignking | April 19, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The writing on the wall could be seen from the pre-season results. Most games were ties or single goal wins, and almost all of the goals came from Moreno. Moreno is no spring chicken so the FO should have seen this coming. Teams know our only threat/difference maker is Moreno ... It is going to take at least three good new players to turn things around.

I suggest they look players such as :

Ulises Mendevil (Pachuca)

Miguel Sabah (Morelia) - Mexican "Ole Gunnar Solskjær"

Shunsuke Nakamura (ex-Celtic & Espanyol)

Kyle Beckerman

Posted by: Charisma_Man | April 19, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Here is my question for the group and Goff:

Presuming the FO shell out money for a DP, who would seriously be willing to play at RFK?

The player I want to see for the next 2/3 seasons is Henry but I don't think he'd play in a third world stadium even if it is in a nice metro area. That and we have no one to get him the ball through midfield.

Posted by: UniteforDC | April 19, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

From the Owners' letter to the fans, 11/7/2008 (it's a good read):

"Kevin Payne remains president and is directly responsible for the business operations of D.C. United and as stated above will report directly to us. Kevin will also assist in the oversight of the team operations, provide his advice and be part of the decision-making process on player selection and other aspects of that area of our business. However, the primary responsibility and accountability will be with General Manager Dave Kasper, who will also report directly to us."

"... we are in a very competitive business, and we have high standards for ourselves. Our job is to ensure we achieve those standards by setting clear expectations and ensuring that we hold everyone accountable for these agreed upon goals and objectives. If these are not met to our satisfaction, we will take what ever action is necessary to achieve those goals."

Posted by: beergorila | April 19, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Beckerman's got a pretty nice gig in SLC right now, but might he be open to a new stadium in Balto?

Posted by: OWNTF | April 19, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

E. Soccer gods?

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | April 19, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Beckerman? Are you guys kidding? Even assuming he'd want to come, RSL wouldn't let him go without a bunch of compensation; and we don't have anything to give. Our roster sucks -- we're not going to substantially improve the team by trading within the league because we don't have anything to trade.

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | April 19, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Just lost Jakovic for 4-6 also

i'm gonna cry

Posted by: SexyOffender | April 19, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Jakovic broke his clavicle in the Philly match. Two matches ago. And they're just figuring this out now.

We're setting records in hamstring pulls. Before that, we set records in groin pulls. And hey, remember Khumalo's delayed return last year because of an infection under his cast that our training/medical staff dismissed as "probably just sweat."

How do these people have jobs?

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | April 19, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm still stunned that the FO didn't add more to this roster. Maybe with Namoff, Simms, Pena, and Jakovic, we have a successful defense, but you have to expect Pena is going to be injured too often and who knows when Namoff is coming back.

I like Najar, though. He seemed like the best DC player out there (which might not be saying a lot but he was still impressive - good touch and completed most of his passes).

Posted by: futboler | April 19, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Fred is starting to look good, can we trade Emilio's rights for Fred?

Actually, can we trade Emilio's rights for anything?

Posted by: SexyOffender | April 19, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Exorcism at RFK Stadium, Training Grounds, and Lot 8.

This Saturday. 2:00.

Who's with me?

Posted by: VercengetorixII | April 19, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The front office and the coaching staff should know that the talent they have on the field is not good enough for MLS. They need at least three key players to lead them and to be able to compete. Management made a huge mistake and unless they can bring some help ASAP, it will be a sad season. This is not 1996. Asking the players to die on the field to hide management mistakes is not fair and reminds me of former coach Hudson. Effort is only half of the equation, key talent is the other. Many fans will stay away from RFK until the situation is resolved.

Posted by: futbolista | April 19, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Another injury? What???

Posted by: Reignking | April 19, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: strago | April 19, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

With all of these people out, what the hell does our starting lineup look like now?

Posted by: chemweapon | April 19, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"With all of these people out, what the hell does our starting lineup look like now?"

Ten guys and a goalkeeper. And the 17-year-old is the best of the lot.

Posted by: dcarmy | April 19, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I want to blame everyone, but ultimately the blame goes to the Front office.

First, the players are underperforming. We don't necessarily have a "bad" players, but we may have the "wrong" players. And that's not necessarily the players or coaches fault.

Secondly, I think the real measure of a good coach is how much he can get out of the players he has, regardless of how good they are. Clearly, we're not getting it done. Some of it's injuries, but there's no way Najar should be staring games. [period]. However, a bad coaching hire is the fault of the front office.

So, the blame ultimately falls to the front office. Maybe they're too high on themselves, maybe they've lost touch with what makes a good team, and maybe (just maybe) they never had it but got lucky with some world class coaches and players of the years. I don't know what it is, but I don't know how to fix it.

Firing Payne doesn't win us anything. Who is more qualified than Kevin Payne in this country to run a soccer team? Maybe we should fire Kasper (I think this is more a possibility), but who else is there? Can Marco Etcheverry evaluate talent? I don't know).

Posted by: TCompton | April 19, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: whoshotsam | April 19, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

eff your self and your pink cows sam.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 19, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

You need a separate entry for Dave Kasper. He isn't really front office and he isn't really coaching staff.

Posted by: DCUSince96 | April 19, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

E. Soccer gods?

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88

Soccerball, boots are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from boots. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.

Posted by: DCUfan14 | April 19, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious to me the "ownership" will use the tried and true tactic of rolling out a rubbish product onto the pitch in order to kill the fan support, and then move the "franchise" to Baltimore or St.Louis due to lack of fan support in the DC area..

Posted by: cidcamp70 | April 20, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I blame Luciano Emilio, Christian Gomez and Fred.

Posted by: OWNTF | April 19, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Very good, OWNTF! Everyone last year blamed these three for our woes and said how they needed to go. Now they're gone and look where we are! I bet we wouldn't be 0-4 if they were all still on our team.

BTW, I know "WNTF" stands for "Women's National Team Fan" but what does the "O" stand for?

Posted by: WorldCup | April 20, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

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