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Poll: U.S. World Cup forwards

By Steve Goff  |  May 17, 2010; 9:22 PM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , Poll , U.S. men's national team  | Tags: Brian Ching, Eddie Johnson, Edson Buddle, Herculez Gomez, Jozy Altidore, Robbie Findley, U.S. national team, World Cup  
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Preferably ones who weren't in a coma seven months ago.

Posted by: very_clever_username | May 17, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

@very_clever_username - now, now, Emilio wasn't in a coma, he was just in a scoring slump. plus, he's Brazilian. wait, what?

i voted for Gomez, but it's funny how quickly opinions can change about a guy who was recently let go by Kansas City.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | May 17, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I excluded Eddie Johnson and Robbie Findley.

Posted by: alan19 | May 17, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

i can't believe 8% of respondents have 4 choices higher than Altidore. did all those other guys score a goal against Spain when i wasn't looking?

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | May 17, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

If Bradley is as hell bent as he seems on bringing a "speed option" in place of Davies, then we can count on either Johnson or Findley making the final 23. If I have to choose between those two, it had better be Johnson. Johnson's had a million chances to impress, and hasn't overall. But at least he's shown flashes of competence and has some experience on the biggest stage of them all, whereas Findley has been totally out of ideas and out of his depth in every appearance with the national team.

Posted by: DEFPOTEC1 | May 17, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I'd bet on it being Altidore, Buddle, Gomez, & Johnson. Are there questions marks in this group when it comes to international play? Hell yeah. But there is potential, too.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | May 17, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

"whereas Findley has been totally out of ideas and out of his depth in every appearance with the national team""

The guy has just three or four call ups to the full squad.

He didn't enter in two matches, came on as a late sub in one, and started against the Dutch where he was . . . ok, overmatched, BUT put himself in great spots several times. Me thinks the stage scared him.

Contrast that with Charlie Davies . . . 17 call ups before he crashed out, but who really didn't do much in his first few games either . . other than a late goal against Trinidad as a sub in a loss . . that is . . . . . until the Confederations Cup he was simply a fast, young forward.

Posted by: delantero | May 17, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that a guy who so heartlessly killed the chances of his club team to stay up with a selfish and violent act in a key game (plus scored all of 1 goal in what, like 20+ games) is considered a lock starter by so many people.

Posted by: Dancy1 | May 17, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, that guy happens to clearly be our best forward.

Posted by: BooThisMan | May 18, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

""killed the chances of his club team to stay up with a selfish and violent act in a key game "" Posted by: Dancy1

Did you see that "violent act" or did you just hear about it?

It looked to me to be a clear dive by the defender, little contact, and certainly no head to head contact whatsoever. No contusion? No foul.

We're not talking Zidane, here.

Posted by: delantero | May 18, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

yes Jozy is our best forward. also, claiming his pseudo-headbutt "killed the chances of his club team to stay up" is the most ridiculous kind of hyperbole. Hull was not a good team and that's not Jozy's fault. he didn't always play well, but he gained valuable experience in a top league and he scored some fine goals in WC qualifying and against Spain.

also, anyone who watched Findley in Thursday night's game against Houston could see that he can have poor touches and make poor decisions even without being scared. but delantero makes a good point - sometimes these things can change quickly as they did with Davies. 18 months ago, he was barely a blip on the radar and now he is assigned deity-like attributes by some. Gomez basically washed out of MLS, then somehow found his touch in Mexico. Buddle has blossomed at a relatively advanced age. and it wasn't so long ago that Eddie Johnson was only mentioned so people could mock him. but then he scored a few goals in Greece and now it's not so crazy to think he might contribute.

anyone who claims to know what the future holds isn't worth paying attention to.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | May 18, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

My goodness, that group just screams "Play a 4-2-3-1!!"

Posted by: mjhoya12 | May 18, 2010 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Had the same four as PrinceBuster

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | May 18, 2010 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Jack Bauer will be available a week from today.

Posted by: dcarmy | May 18, 2010 5:56 AM | Report abuse

"Hull was not a good team and that's not Jozy's fault. he didn't always play well, but he gained valuable experience"

Well, his job at Hull was to score goals, not "gain valuable experience." He had opportunities to play and didn't produce. That sounds a lot like "his fault."

We need to stop giving American players "passes" on poor performances.

Posted by: rcdwriting | May 18, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

It seems like most people gave a few "passes" to Landon Donovan on his forays to Germany. Sometimes good players don't look good in the wrong place.

Posted by: BigBubba1 | May 18, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

@ dcarmy: haha

Posted by: swampdogoh | May 18, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Wow. I didn't know realize that the Findley family and so many Real Salt lake fans had ever heard of the Soccer Insider, let alone took the time to participate in a poll.

Posted by: yankiboy | May 18, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe that a guy who so heartlessly killed the chances of his club team to stay up with a selfish and violent act in a key game (plus scored all of 1 goal in what, like 20+ games) is considered a lock starter by so many people.

Posted by: Dancy1

Hyperbole much? Hull was already sunk.

Well, his job at Hull was to score goals, not "gain valuable experience."

Posted by: rcdwriting

I'd say that from an American's perspective, it was.

dcarmy: I don't want to spoil anyone, but last night's episode was awesome.

Posted by: Reignking | May 18, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Goff a better Poll would have been to ask which forward you want to go along with Altidore. jozy is a lock while everyone are the question marks....everyone is going to pick Jozy, take him out of the poll and lets see who everyone thinks should be the 2nd guy

Posted by: PineyO | May 18, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Oh crap my bust!!! I decided to read the title "Vote for 4" nevermind...

Posted by: PineyO | May 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Can't believe Ching is the second choice by % of votes. Ching is 3 years past his prime. Back then we was somewhat mobile, athletic and good finisher, in addition to holding the ball as target forward. Now he can't do anything except hold the ball/knock balls down. Do you really need 2 (Altidore & Ching) people doing the same thing? One forward should be able to create and the other (Altidore) playing like an out-and-out striker.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | May 18, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

One forward should be able to create and the other (Altidore) playing like an out-and-out striker.

Posted by: Charisma_Man

That's why I see LD/Dempsey up top.

Posted by: Reignking | May 18, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"Hull was not a good team and that's not Jozy's fault. he didn't always play well, but he gained valuable experience"

Well, his job at Hull was to score goals, not "gain valuable experience." He had opportunities to play and didn't produce. That sounds a lot like "his fault."

We need to stop giving American players "passes" on poor performances.

Posted by: rcdwriting | May 18, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

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Maybe you should watch basketball instead of soccer, you appear to have missed the point of this game, where goal-scoring is hardly ever down to one player.

Posted by: stancollins | May 18, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

That's LD or Dempsey up top with Jozy, of course.

Posted by: Reignking | May 18, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

In any case, Altidore shouldn't get the start against England. He's just spent a year in England failing miserably against the very same defenders he would be facing in the first game. Why bother putting a guy out there who couldn't handle the pressure on a week to week basis.

And if England/Hull wasn't the right situation for Jozy, what about his parent club, Villareal? He's managed one goal there as well. Two goals the past two seasons abroad. Seven internationally, six against T&T, Cuba and El Salvador. He's not lighting it up week in, week out. And the teams he is scoring against aren't exactly the best in CONCACAF.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: jayrockers | May 18, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Coach Bradley needs to find a twosome up front that has chemistry and a MF that can service them properly...that should have been his priority since Davies went down and obviously nothing has been put in place since...too much time wasted and too little time to correct the situation.

Posted by: juke2 | May 18, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The question of this poll has no merit...the question should read, "which forwards should not be part of the USMNT.

Posted by: juke2 | May 18, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

In any case, Altidore shouldn't get the start against England. He's just spent a year in England failing miserably against the very same defenders he would be facing in the first game. Why bother putting a guy out there who couldn't handle the pressure on a week to week basis.

And if England/Hull wasn't the right situation for Jozy, what about his parent club, Villareal? He's managed one goal there as well. Two goals the past two seasons abroad. Seven internationally, six against T&T, Cuba and El Salvador. He's not lighting it up week in, week out. And the teams he is scoring against aren't exactly the best in CONCACAF.

Posted by: jayrockers

1) Ask Chelsea and John Terry.
2) Villarreal: 6 games including 1 start. Oh no!

Posted by: Reignking | May 18, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"In any case, Altidore shouldn't get the start against England. He's just spent a year in England failing miserably against the very same defenders he would be facing in the first game. Why bother putting a guy out there who couldn't handle the pressure on a week to week basis."

On one hand that's a really good point, on the other I'm thinking Jozy has got plenty to lose not playing the game of his life on June 12th. He's got to understand that, right?

"Coach Bradley needs to find a twosome up front that has chemistry and a MF that can service them properly..."

Not sure who the twosome is at this moment, but Donovan and Buddle have been hooking it up. It would be great if Buddle can stay hot and the US can capitalize on their chemistry.

Posted by: DadRyan | May 18, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

The main reason I like Buddle is because he will be paired with Donovan, and they clearly have an understanding going on. I think there's value in that.

I also look forward (no pun intended) to seeing how Gomez can get integrated into our MNT system.

Posted by: WorldCup | May 18, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

For the love of God, keep ching off the roster. He must have pictures of Bradley naked with a midget or something. He's slower than a statue and routinely fails to make an impact in international games. Put Jozy up front with Dempsey or Donovan playing off him in a withdrawn forward role.

Posted by: FireBradleynow | May 18, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

@WorldCup

Did you watch LA - Toronto on Saturday? Buddle missed so many chances that should have been put away. Missing chances like these, how is he going to elevate his game for likes of England, Slovenia and Algeria?

EJ is similar but better player and more experienced than Buddle. If you haven't seen EJ play in the past 2 yrs (not counting USMNT) then your opinion is going to be uninformed.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | May 18, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

EJ is similar but better player and more experienced than Buddle. If you haven't seen EJ play in the past 2 yrs (not counting USMNT) then your opinion is going to be uninformed.

Posted by: Charisma_Man

I don't think many have seen EJ play, because he, like Adu, was warming benches until Aris freed them.

Posted by: Reignking | May 18, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@juke2 - "too much time wasted" since Davies went down? there have been only 5 USMNT games since the last Qualifier and i think 2 of them (vs. HON and ES) did not fall on International Fixture dates, so Altidore wasn't in the squad. in those games, Bradley has tried Jeff Cunningham, Eddie Johnson, Brian Ching, Robbie Findley and Conor Casey up top in addition to Altidore. wouldn't that be the definition of Bradley trying to find some chemistry up there? and as for the MF that can service them, we've got Donovan, Bradley and Dempsey who have been set in stone for a while, not to mention Feilhaber who has played a lot. do you expect a new one to materialize out of thin air? what exactly could be done differently?

@WorldCup - i agree that Buddle makes sense to put in there with Donovan to see if their rapport carries over. i'm hoping to see them play together against Turkey in Philly next weekend. otherwise, i advocate for putting Dempsey up top and letting Holden take Dempsey's spot on the flank.

@ReignKing - +1 to everything you said.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | May 18, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

EJ's transformation begun when he went to Cardiff and now he's putting it to work at Aris. If people are basing their opinion of him when he was in MLS, then they are badly uninformed because he has overcome his past deficiencies. Hopefully he gets more than 15-20 mins in the upcoming friendlies to show everybody what he can do now.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | May 18, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

A lot of the negative comments about Altidore seem uninformed. Anyone making comments about statistics at Hull probably have not watched many games, or even followed the game summaries. Hull is a wasteland for strikers. That has nothing to do with the strikers themselves, but really the rest of the team. What good is a power striker without adequate service and midfield. The same Altidore haters should look at EJ, who last year was farmed out by Fulham to Championship team and still couldn't get starts or goals. The bottom line reason for Altidore as a lock to start is that he plays well with the Nats, and will have the type of players around him that he needs but doesn't have at Hull. Don't forget his age, which should be factored into lack of playing time while in Spain.

Posted by: funnelmcdrink | May 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

@funnelmcdrink - right on. at the risk of angering the Eurosnobs, USMNT > Hull City. if Donovan, Dempsey and Bradley played in midfield for Hull, i think you would have seen Altidore score more goals.

as for EJ, i'm totally willing to give him a chance in these upcoming games as long as his hamstring is OK. i will love anyone who produces and plays hard.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | May 18, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Lurkers love Ching

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | May 18, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

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