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US vs. Australia - LIVE CHAT

Guys, we'll be live chatting all of the U.S. soccer games this World Cup, and I'd figure we'd get in our own 'friendly' before the World Cup starts...

So join me here for this game, and of course for all the U.S. games beginning one week from today...

By Paul Tenorio  |  June 5, 2010; 8:27 AM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , U.S. men's national team  
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well this just isn't the same at all.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

looks the same to me. every ball still slides right through our box. meant the chat function

Posted by: troy6 | June 5, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

The pitch looks terrible.

This whole match has kind of gone pear shaped.

Posted by: JkR- | June 5, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

so, did dempsey perform some insulting rap about australia? why are they trying to cripple him?

Posted by: troy6 | June 5, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

go beez. from left back in his last game in SA to center forward in this one. next stop: goal keeper.

Posted by: troy6 | June 5, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Gomez for Dempsey

Posted by: emanon13 | June 5, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

god, our passing in the 18 the last 15 minutes has cost us 3 or 4 goals.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

another (possible) pre-WC injury: Arjen Robben limped off the field after hurting his left knee

Posted by: emanon13 | June 5, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Our forwards have put together some of the worst passes I've ever seen in an international match.

Posted by: cannonj22 | June 5, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

howevah.... our defense has looked appreciably better overall this half. god help me, but Bornstein has looked competent and i will take 30 good minutes from Gooch as a sub next week.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

For Pete's sake, why the extra time? End this, before someone gets hurt.

Posted by: JkR- | June 5, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Findley, with the should-a-been hat trick there. he's still looked much better than i thought he could a couple weeks ago. Bradley's choice of him over Ching looking to be vindicated, i think.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

GOMEZ! he's in.

Posted by: cannonj22 | June 5, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse


so can Forward be considered a strength position for us at this point? they've all played very well today. Buddle even had a nice defensive clearance off a corner a little while ago.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Herculez! Herculez! Herculez!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | June 5, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

If Herculez had half the chances that Findley did today, I'm sure he would have scored.

Oh wait. :)

Herculez > Findley

Posted by: Cerealman | June 5, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

@dimesmakedollars - have to disagree about the forwards playing well. Buddle played well, but Findley's touch/passing/finishing is abysmal. I like him on the field to stretch the long as he doesn't touch the ball. Too much of a waste to have a player there just to stretch the defense who can't score on an open net. From this we should see Gomez get the start next to Altidore.

Posted by: cannonj22 | June 5, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Gomez is such a finisher. Nice job. He should have taken the one that he tried to square to Findley. We got the win. Nice job guys.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 5, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

you could say that Australia was a bit unlucky to not get 2 or 3 goals in this game, but the US was unlucky not to have 7. a lot of that came while Australia was pushing forward in the 2nd half, but there were some really nice buildups and counterattacks by the US that were undone by bad touches, questionable passes and bad calls by the linesman (the ref also didn't call a foul against Findley on a run down the left side that was pretty obvious).

the defense was shaky, but got better, and Hahnemann had a wobbly moment or two but showed he's ready to step in and play well if needed. our midfield was the disappointing piece for me today. Clark didn't add much at all and Donovan went missing for large swaths of the game. Bradley and Dempsey were OK, but are capable of playing better.

overall, a very heartening performance on the back of that 2nd half performance against Turkey. a few injury concerns (not concerned about Clark - if he's out, no big loss to me), but this is the kind of form we wanted to see going into the games that count. so freaking excited for Friday and Saturday!!!!!

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Gomez - Altidore

Dempsey - Bradley - Torres - Donovan

Boca - Gooch - Demerit - Cherundolo



Posted by: cannonj22 | June 5, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

yes, Findley had finishing trouble today and made some bad passes, but he was handful that drew attention from the defense and that helped open things up. i could see him starting next to Altidore and having a positive impact, then being subbed off for Gomez or Buddle in the 2nd half. or i could see him coming on for the last 20-30 minutes to stretch the defense and wreak havoc. i guess what i mean is that he's looked much better than i thought he would, so i'm less worried about him being a liability out there. i definitely think our other 3 forwards are better bets to finish their chances, though.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: biga116 | June 5, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I'll agree with that assessment 100%. Well done, Yanks.

Posted by: cannonj22 | June 5, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Hate to start in early on the refs, but what was this guy thinking? The blood-vendetta against Dempsey was obvious in the first half. The double yellow is worse than the dreaded double T in the NBA. It is a cop out. My personal favorite was the play-on after Donovan fouled Cahill in the first half, then the delayed foul after Cahill tripped on the ball 4 seconds later. Donovan just looked at the ref like he was an alien.

Our only major weakness continues to be defending crosses. Cahill scored (with a fine far post coverage in the style of Mike Burns v. Germany in '98), and 3 other crosses touched the ground in the box.... yikes!

Posted by: jojosbo | June 5, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Buddle has to start. Gomez can score no matter how few minutes you give him, but Buddle helps the passing game, can hold the ball up, Should have had an assist (Findley) and is a power finisher. Him and Jozy are both fast enough and strong enough to share the target/striker roles interchangeably, and would wear down defenses.

Findley doesn't deserve to start over Gomez and Buddle, not when they are on this kind of form.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 5, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Findley was both a positive and a negative out there. He was driving me mad with poor decisions on passing and even more mad with his finishing, or lack there of. Findley should have had 2 goals for sure, maybe even 3. There were also times in which a simple pass to the side was needed to keep the ball rolling forward and he tried to do too much on his own which cost us the ball. So yeah, he got a goal, should have had another, but hopefully this will make him better and not worse.

Another player causing me concern is Gooch, yes he positions well, yes he has height, but I fear he will get burned by a speedy forward soon. I don't understand his limp, is this the way he is going to be permanently? Is he going to heal out of that limp? He looks a liability and I am sure AC Milan are worried about him.

Jay Demerit had a terrible game.

Aside from that we won, should have won by more, but at least it looks as though we made it through the game without extra injuries. A good jog, some game fitness, that is all.

Posted by: elfelixg | June 5, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Findley = touch of a sturgeon

Gooch don't look so good, kinda hobbling around out there

Posted by: OWNTF | June 5, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

elfelixg - Findley didn't score. 2 for Buddle 1 for Gomez.

Posted by: cannonj22 | June 5, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Cannon, your right, I must have tricked myself cause he had so many chances I figured it was impossible not to score. My bad!

Posted by: elfelixg | June 5, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Gooch always ran like a wounded ostrich.

Posted by: mason08 | June 5, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Findley is fast, but useless with the ball. That should have been today's lesson...other than all of our defensive woes.

I hope they just kept Torres out to leave some surprises for England. He needs to be out there. Clark was invisible.

If Jozy isn't at least 100% there's no way he should be playing next week. Play Buddle and Gomez up front. I don't get this notion that Jozy is an automatic selection.

Posted by: fedssocr | June 5, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I thought Clark was the weak link in midfield today. I'd prefer Torres then Edu ahead of him. He was invisible in the first half and in the second made not very good passes. He doesn't seem to want the ball, unlike Torres. Findley should only be a late sub where speed would kill. Gooch is fine.

Posted by: RRP1 | June 5, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Re: Findley: "He's got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold him"

He's been the same in many of the friendlies. His speed has forced every defense from the Dutch on through to the Aussies to mind his presence.

Yeah, he might screw up 4 or 5 of those touches, but he's going to produce in the World Cup, and he's going to help this team.

If he can just get deep and hold the ball a second . . the mids will have a chance to truly threaten, Landon in particular, on give and goes from 20-30 yards out.

If he keeps trying to turn and take guys on, though, we'll rue many missed opportunities.

Posted by: delantero | June 5, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Growing injury list . . . Robben, Obi Mikel, . . . . Ferdinand, Drogba, Ballack, Beckham, . . Essien, Adler, Rolfe,

Posted by: delantero | June 5, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The Eleven versus England:


Posted by: Cerealman | June 5, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

SA beat Denmark! Could France really come third in group A? *That* would be funny.

Posted by: glfrazier | June 5, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

All I know is I enjoyed the in-game chat way too much.

Posted by: biga116 | June 5, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Rio Ferdinand had to Train In Vain for The Clash against the USA, but now hears London Calling him home and must be thinking Should I Stay Or Should I Go.


Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 5, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Blown opportunities or not, the US have seen more of the ball and looked far more dangerous with Findley on the field than off. Of course, the same could be said of Torres, and I don't for an instant see BB starting him. It was disappointing not seeing Torres, Edu and Holden today.

I was disappointed with the Aussies. Aside from corner kicks and whacks at Dempsey they mustered very little that could be called an attack. Cahill off in the 2nd half may explain some of that. The organization of our defense doesn't.

Posted by: benonthehill | June 5, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

yeah, see that's why I am hoping those guys were held out just to add an element of surprise.

Posted by: fedssocr | June 5, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Re: Aussie belligerence

Between the hard fouls on Dempsey, including a two footed tackle from behind, and the blatant fouls against New Zealand, the Aussies are downright nasty.

If the refs call it like the Confed Cup/World Cup 2006, the Aussies will see 3-4 reds.

Posted by: delantero | June 5, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Hahnemann looked terrrrrrrrriiiiibbbbbllllle minus the two saves.

Posted by: delantero | June 5, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Findley should have scored, no argument there. But those calling for his head because he did not in this game could be off on this one. He was clumsy with his final touches and could have been touch or few seconds more patient on a few opportunities. But he also did his job well. He forced the opposing D to recognize and respect him as a real threat. The thing is, England will have to respect him if he starts. They may choose not to do so, but what happens when he does convert one of these many chances?

I like the Buddle-Altidore suggestion, but not to be a punishment for Findley's shortcomings. I also think Buddle is very much like Altidore - which could be a plus to have them both on the field at the same time. We'll see.

The mid-field? I can only guess that BB was holding some of his cards close to his chest, which based on the result may not be a bad thing at all. Keep the English guessing.

Our D? Holy cow, man. They better shape up very fast.

Like I said earlier. Great performance against another WC team. Yeah we may not have played the best but I'm sure the Aussies would not have minded having a 3-1 result in their favor from their last tune-up.

Nice effort by the team, who looked very capable on the counter and some build-up plays. USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 5, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

you know who wasn't mentioned during the entire chat or in the comments here? Charlie Davies. as sad as I am that CD9 is missing out, it's nice to see that we have several other guys stepping up and providing quality attacking/scoring. i think we can take all 3 games - who's with me?

i like the lineups posted above and echo Cerealman's starting XI. so who gets left out of the 18? Guzan, either Spector or Bornstein, along with Feilhaber and 1 of the forwards who doesn't start (Findley?). can you leave Beasley out? if not, which mid, Holden, Clark or Edu? tough choices.

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse


There will be far fewer of those chances against England, do you really prefer the player who finished none of them versus the player who had two in one half and the other who scored in only a ten minutes?

I understand pulling for a player, but this is illogical.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | June 5, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The Guardian has profiles up for all of the World Cup teams - the header/tagline for the US is "A steady and proficient side should have the aptitude required to qualify from their group at the very least"

Posted by: emanon13 | June 5, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

You guys are high if you think Torres will be starting - and in the center of the pitch at that. I have no concerns with the team when it comes to getting forward - they can. Though the lack of that killer final pass between forwards was lacking.

It'll be Bradley and Clark or Edu - need that strength to battle Lampard, Barry and co. Torres can't tackle and doesn't gave the grit to play two ways for 90 minutes.

I'm just worried about Gooch and if he's up for a huge challenge next weekend. I wouldn't ve surprised if he's not in the lineup, which is a real shame for him and our chances.

Posted by: Kev29 | June 5, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

@ UnitedDemon -

Point well taken. I just like the speed that Findley brings, but yeah you are spot on if we get 1 or 2 looks I'd rather have them at Buddle's feet instead of Findley's. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 5, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

half my DVR is currently taken up with "Passport to South Africa," "The Contenders" (watching the US/Uruguay episode now), and "The Greatest" (Franz Beckinbauer episode taping now). yes, it's going to be a great month.

@Kev29 - you're probably right about Torres, at least against England, but Bradley saw how well he played last weekend, and i thought he did a great job defensively against Turkey (granted not for 90 minutes).

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | June 5, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Rivalries on FSC about ENG-GER. They showed Beckham. Do I still have to drink?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 5, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Rivalries on FSC about ENG-GER. They showed Beckham. Do I still have to drink?

The Lutheran answer is yes, always!

Posted by: dcarmy | June 5, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

You also need to run or ruck march 30 miles a week or you will become pear-shaped.

Posted by: dcarmy | June 5, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

On the plus side, we won and seem to be able to score goals against a variety of foes. On the minus side, our back four looks shaky at best. Maybe this will work in our favor as England must be overconfident after watching our center backs. I would prefer Edu over Clark who, as others have noted, was invisible for most of the match. I also think it was insanity to risk playing Dempsey for 80 minutes and Landon for the full 90. Oh, and somebody please tell Martin Tyler he's got to do a lot better as the lead announcer. He sounded great, but it was quite apparent he knows very little about the U.S. players and did we really need to see several shots of Beckham looking bored? Gaack! Enough already.

Posted by: popoki08 | June 5, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

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