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USA vs. Slovenia: Americans rally for 2-2 tie

Read all about it here. Check out the game stats here.

According to the play-by-play at FIFA's Web site, Maurice Edu's goal was wiped out because a foul was called on Edu. Steve Goff is attempting to get the full story now.

By Matt Bonesteel  |  June 18, 2010; 12:16 PM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup  
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I generally don't advocate violence but that ref should be shot for disallowing the winning goal. Criminal. All credit to the lads for battling back and pulling out the point. Need to do the math but a win against Algeria may still do the trick.

Posted by: Truckr | June 18, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

After that second half, Bob Bradley haters better disappear.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Truckr... A win against Algeria would get us through as long as England beats Slovenia and Algeria. If England ties Slovenia, after beating Algeria, then USA has to win by 2 or more goals to go through.

All in all, just a terible call. There could have been multiple PK calls for us. Ref just robbed us.

Posted by: grubbsbl | June 18, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The ref was a disgrace in deed.

I wanna hear what BB haters have to say after this. Plus all the Clark haters too. Clark may not be a fan favorite and is card trouble waiting to happen but he gives us gust in that D mid part of the field.

Did I say the ref was a piece of waste?

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 18, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The headline needs to read: U.S. Ties Slovenia 3-2

Posted by: BarkerDavidL | June 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

We need England to clean up the group and of course win our last game.

Posted by: mizage | June 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Just when I was thinking about getting into soccer, this happens. I don't know if I will watch a game again. If its rigged, why put in the effort to get invested.

Posted by: Natstural | June 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Reignking

Posted by: grubbsbl | June 18, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Joe Barton would like to apologize to the Mali referee for doubting his esteemed judgement.

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | June 18, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

@ Natstural - bad calls are a part of sport, any sport, every sport. You sound like you are new to soccer so we welcome you for that, but bad calls happen in soccer too. It would be a shame if you turn your back on the sport for one bad call, because as you saw for yourself, that 2-2 comeback was more than a score line...it was determination and national pride. If you walk away, then I'm sorry to say...you're loss.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 18, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Natsural... you get invested because of the drama. It isn't rigged. I highly doubt there is a conspiracy. Just a ref making a bad call. Watch the third game of USA. We can still go through.

I was referring to multiple pk calls on the same play as Edu’s disallowed goal.

Posted by: grubbsbl | June 18, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

After that second half, Bob Bradley haters better disappear.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:24 PM

Along with the Torres lovers. He just does not have the make-up to play for this US team - too light weight. Maybe when we have more cultured players capable of possession type futbol, but right now the only thing that works for us is our aggression and work rate. Torres does not fit in.

Let's take care of business on Wednesday and England might as well step up now and blitz Algeria and Slovenia.

Posted by: Kev29 | June 18, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Look -- I heard the whistle blow, so I didn't even get excited when Edu put it in the net, but there's no way Edu committed a foul. I'd have to see a replay and focus on him, but I'm pretty sure he was the only runner who didn't get into contact with a defender.

On the other hand, we didn't deserve the free kick. If I wasn't a USA fan, I'd be hating on Jozy "My Middle Name Is "Dive" Altidore -- almost as much as Ronaldo.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

@ Kev29 - well put, my friend, well put.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 18, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Torres might be fine paired with Edu or Clark, but not Bradley. 1 of the CM's need to guard the door...

Posted by: JkR- | June 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Just when I was thinking about getting into soccer, this happens. I don't know if I will watch a game again. If its rigged, why put in the effort to get invested.

Posted by: Natstural | June 18, 2010 12:28 PM

I didn't give up on baseball after Jim Joyce blew the perfect game. Come on - today should have boosted casual soccer fan interest. That was a thrilling match!

Posted by: Kev29 | June 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Like Hatsural said, i tried to be a good global citizen by getting into this crap even though our country is no good at it. I could accept it (grudgingly) when we were screwed out of the 1972 Olympic men's basketball gold medal (I was 12 at the time). The British official who did it to us said he did so because he thought U.S. domination of international basketball was "stifling" the sport. But if we are now going to be screwed in a sport in which we not only are not dominant, but not even very good, then to Hell with it.

Posted by: vrnnwillis75 | June 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Poor Findley. He seems terrified of taking a shot. Two reasonable (though not great) chances and he opted for impossible passes instead.

The ref was a disgrace. The fact that he wouldn't even tell the players what the call was tells me he knew he was wrong, but was just not going to allow second guessing by the players.

Barker's right: Us ties 3-2.

Posted by: ldmay | June 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Kev, it's been a while, but there was a match (must've been a WCQ, prelim round) in Central America in which Torres debuted -- in the center. I loved him. Then Bradley tried him on the wing (@El Salvador?) and he got torched.

You're right -- he's a lightweight. He doesn't play with the confidence that you need in a WC match. Edu does. MB does. Jozy does. They know they belong.

Frustrating first half, because Slovenia's defensive organization was fantastic -- and we didn't understand how to unlock it. We came out in the second half, ignoring width and putting more men in the same area for quicker passing and more passing lanes.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The message to the rest of the world is to attack us early and hard. At that time our defense is squishy and our midfield can't hold on to the ball. I thought Torres had a few good moments, but he and Bradley aren't on the same page.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | June 18, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Disagree again fischy...

The deffender clearly had his arms around Jozy's neck on the play, and the only reason it looked like a dive was that Jozy was so strong that he didn't look impeded. Deffinately a foul, but I wish we could compare Jozy to Ronaldo more often -- in different context, of course

Posted by: tphasbdp | June 18, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

agreed Kev29 - all you BB haters/Torres Lovers, BB gave you exactly what you had asked for and it didn't work. Torres is a great player, but I think he only would fit on the field if MB goes off, and thats not likely. I am not a Clark fan, but it should have been him or Edu in there for the start.

and I was in the same boat as Fischy, I heard him blow the whistle before Edu hit it in, so I wasn't even upset...until I saw the replay. one day the US will be good enough to get past impartial officials.

Posted by: VTUnited | June 18, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

@kev -- Torres was the wrong pick for this game. He would be a better player against the smaller Algerian side. And, I say this as the internet's most vocal Torres-basher. I didn't want him on this team. With Edu, I'd been saying he does one thing really well: he scores goals...which the USA needs. This game proved that, but he was far worse than I could have ever imagined in every other aspect of the game. Right now, I'm wishing Jermaine Jones was available, but I'd vote to see Clark back in there.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Joe Barton would like to apologize to the Mali referee for doubting his esteemed judgement.

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | June 18, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Kudos. Very funny post in the heat of the moment.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | June 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

by my count of the "Jozy Takedowns", there should have been 2 yellows and 1 red, but Mr Mali's only decided to show 1 yellow.

Posted by: VTUnited | June 18, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I think I got an email from that ref, saying that he needed my bank account number.

After all, he is a "finance inspector".

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

That was -not- a red for taking Jozy down.

Man did Jozy wake up in the last 30 -- or, better yet, people started playing the right balls to him. Let him post up all day, please!

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

This team could use Beckerman. Keeps the game in front of him, and breaks up plays out of possession, and in possession is available to relieve pressure, and is reliable on the ball.

We're getting none of that from that position, which has been killing us both games.

Posted by: OWNTF | June 18, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I wish we could all be sitting here, marveling at the goal of the tournament, instead.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I'll give Torres one big nod -- if he gets that free kick even a foot or eighteen inches higher (less of a dip), the USA wins that game, and everyone would be singing Torres' praises.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

VTUnited: you mean partial officials. I'd love an impartial one for once

Posted by: bspence11 | June 18, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I wish we could all be sitting here, marveling at the goal of the tournament, instead.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:52 PM

the two we did get were pretty spectacular

Posted by: VTUnited | June 18, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

It was nice to have another option than LD for free kicks.

Our corners were horrendous.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Exactly, Reignking. Donovan really stepped it up in the second and grabbed this team by the yarbulls with that wonderstrike.

Bradley Jr.'s goal was a very difficult one too. Many people sky that bad boy.

Two well taken goals by Yanks today.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 18, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

@bspence11
either that or "impartial".

Posted by: VTUnited | June 18, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure which you mean as the goal of the tournament -- Donovan's blast, or what should have been the late winner -- but let's marvel at Donovan's 2nd half. That was up there with Messi for the best performance in this Cup.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Kosh, yes, that easily could've been put over.

Reminds me of the poaching that MB did in the Dutch league. Right place, right time, and calm.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Bradley may have given a great motivational halftime speech but I'm kinda mystified by his decison to add 2 defensive midfielders at the break after we had fallen behind by 2 goals!

Oh well, things worked out and that's what is most important.

But the fact that Landon Donovan's defender fell down and Donovan followed up that opportunity with a great narrow angle goal probably had little to do with Bradley's tactical adjustments.

Luck is important and our offense didn't have any in the 1st half. The poster that said Torres shouldn't be paired w Bradley may have it right, but Torres was not really the reason for either goal the Slovenes scored. And he did have what may have been our best scoring chance in the 1st half w the near post freekick. Torres typically does his distributing and linking from a deep lying position not as an attacking midfielder right behind the forwards.

There you are.

In the tradition of fair and balanced blog posting, a Torres apologist and Bradley critic has spoken!

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | June 18, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure which you mean as the goal of the tournament -- Donovan's blast, or what should have been the late winner -- but let's marvel at Donovan's 2nd half. That was up there with Messi for the best performance in this Cup.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2010 12:58 PM

As Donovan collected the pass from Dolo on the wing then ran into the box, I just kept yelling... "finish it yourself, finish it yourself, finish it yourself"

Thank God he got the message :-)

Posted by: Kev29 | June 18, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

@ fischy, I would have loved a Torres set piece goal, but still would have talked about the massive holes and turnovers he generated for the opponent. Could he be better for us? I think so. But this was not the game for him. Torres is young and he is a great add for us. He'll get there.

Posted by: Kosh2 | June 18, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Huh? Torres took the only dangerous shot of the first half, and apart from the volley, Edu was awful today.

The whole team still gives up possession, under NO pressure, far too often to beat good teams.

Still, a very good second half. Have to hope a win over Algeria will be enough, but it's a crime US is in that position.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | June 18, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me what Howard's positioning was all about on that first goal? It was criminal that our defense didn't push up to pressure before the shot was taken, but Howard was at least 7 yards off his line.

Posted by: mizage | June 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

It was a classic defensive battle: Which defense could let in more goals. US defenders need to know they're allowed within 15 yards of the other team. Score should have been 3-0 Slovenia at the half, but their strikers feel that scoring off a long ball is unsportsmanlike.

Posted by: Groff | June 18, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

@Joel: I agree the Torres Bradley combo didn’t work. The problem is Torres is supposed to do his best passing from a deep position, which would mean Torres should be holding. Torres got caught chasing balls in the midfield which left us open for the counter.

Bringing on Edu, or Clark, was a must as his shut down the space to counter. Edu did give the ball away at an alarming rate but his athleticism bailed us out at times.

To be fair, Donovan should have scored in the first half off Dempsey's drive. That would of been up there for goal of the cup.

I am a Torres fan but he doesn't work in our system. It has to be either Edu or Clark. Bradley isn't tactically disciplined and is at his best when he can roam: Much like a Darren Fletcher for United. And it is important to always note that Fletcher always has Scholes or Carrick holding for him.

Posted by: grubbsbl | June 18, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Also kicking long balls for Findley to run after is not a winning first-half strategy.

Posted by: Groff | June 18, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, we didn't deserve the free kick. Posted by: fischy

Huh? The Slovenian had Jozy with a stiff arm to his shoulder. It's about the only way they could stop him.

This is the third Cup in a row that the U.S. has had the outcome changed by an official. US v Germany, US v Ghana and now this . . .

Posted by: delantero | June 18, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, did Feilhaber even touch the ball? It seems we completely focused on the right side, with LD. Which is fine by me.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

This is the third Cup in a row that the U.S. has had the outcome changed by an official. US v Germany, US v Ghana and now this . . .

Posted by: delantero | June 18, 2010 1:34

once or twice it could be a coincidence. now it's becoming a trend. almost every 50/50 foul seems to go the other way. i am sorry but i think there is something else going on that is beyond sports. i'll leave it at that....

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

once or twice it could be a coincidence. now it's becoming a trend. almost every 50/50 foul seems to go the other way. i am sorry but i think there is something else going on that is beyond sports. i'll leave it at that....

Posted by: birdynumnum

Not remotely. The ref called a good game apart from the mystery goal and Findley's faceball. Dempsey could've been sent off in the first minute.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

From Grant Wahl's column:

The U.S. made one of the most remarkable second-half comebacks in World Cup history, becoming only the fifth team ever to gain a tie after taking a 2-0 deficit into halftime. But this result should have been the first time a team had ever won 3-2 in the World Cup after going down 2-0 at halftime.

Posted by: Reignking | June 18, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me what Howard's positioning was all about on that first goal? It was criminal that our defense didn't push up to pressure before the shot was taken, but Howard was at least 7 yards off his line.

Posted by: mizage | June 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

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Probably because Birsa was 35-40 yards out when he shot, generally goalies push up when the ball is up the field a ways. It makes it easier to catch up to a ball and gives you a little "buffer" zone that you don't have when you are on the line.

And if Howard had stayed on the goal line, Birsa still would have scored. It was a golazo, nothing Howard could've done on that but tip his hat.

Posted by: Josh86 | June 18, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

sorry if this has been discussed before:
what would happen if the US and Slovenia finish with 5 points, +1 GD and both teams scoring 4 total goals?

Posted by: birdynumnum | June 18, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

great heart and fight-back, but we put ourselves in a very tough position when we give up early goals. it would be great if we stopped doing this.

i have hated on bob bradley quite a bit over the past couple years, but i gotta say that i thought he did a very good job this game. i *really* liked the lineup when i saw it on paper before the match, but unfortunately the first half was played on grass and things didn't work out as expected. however, bob made some decent subss at halftime, along with whatever was said at break, and the second half they had a real urgency and cutting edge they lacked in first half. then, at the end he made another good sub with gomez, and changed formation to 3-4-3, going for the win. great performance by bob bradley, to be sure.

findley and torres both disappointed me. their considerable contributions were obscured by their deficiencies (findley looked REALLY unsure in goal area, torres lacked incisiveness and effective possession). donovan was huge, all game.

we were definitely hard-done-by to not win, as edu's goal looked good to me. but we also benefited from the poor officiating. dempsey should have had a yellow in the first minute, and also i though gooch could have gotten a yellow on a first-half tacklwe now must beat algeria in our last game...GO USA!!!!!!111one1!

Posted by: dfunkt | June 18, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

This is the third Cup in a row that the U.S. has had the outcome changed by an official. US v Germany, US v Ghana and now this . . .

Posted by: delantero | June 18, 2010 1:34

how could you forget US v Italy 06, or at the Confederations Cup with the red on Bradley v Spain.

Posted by: VTUnited | June 18, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, did Feilhaber even touch the ball?

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Yes. Some really interesting touches. He looked pretty dangerous with the ball, though his defense was again lacking....as Howard pointed out to him. I'm really unsure who I'd pair with Bradley in the future.

Posted by: fischy | June 18, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Can we please get an alternative up front to Robbie Findley. His two game WC Finals audition seems to be over in my opinion. Lets start Buddle, a good holding forward whose confidence has to be soaring right now.

Posted by: KGBeach | June 18, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Its all in your own hands Yanks.
Great game to watch ,brilliant fight back robbed by a cock of a referee, terrible decision knocking the Edu goal off.

Posted by: Jaggybunnet | June 19, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Yes, that ref was a wanker, wasn't he.

Posted by: paulkp | June 19, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

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