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Dani Jarque on Andres Iniesta's mind (and shirt) in World Cup final

After Andres Iniesta scored in extra time for Spain, the deciding goal in a 1-0 win over the Netherlands in the World Cup final, he pulled off his jersey to reveal a vest with "Dani Jarque seimpre con nosotros" written on it.

That means "Dani Jarque is always with us," a reference to former Espanyol defender Dani Jarque, who died of a heart attack in August 2009.

After the match, Iniesta said: "This is for Dani Jarque, for my family, for all of the people. It is the result of hard work over a long time and some difficult moments," according to an ESPN.com report.

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By Matt Bonesteel  |  July 11, 2010; 7:22 PM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , Spain  
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Comments

Iniesta is a "Class A" kind of guy

Posted by: cordobes17 | July 11, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Could've, should've been his 2nd yellow.

Posted by: Reignking | July 11, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the yellow comment Goldmember, you're team should have had couple more sent off.

Posted by: maqroll21 | July 11, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

This just in, Robben missed again...

Posted by: boricuabopper | July 11, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Iniesta and Jarque were like brothers. They had played in the U17, U21 National side together and were very close friends. Jarque was 26 when he suddenly passed away in August last year and this really affected Andres. He wrote an emotional farewell letter in memory to Dani Jarque and despite him playing for FCB (the other team in the city) it was published in Perico23, an RCD Espanyol magazine. "Dani Jarque siempre en nuestros corazones". Congratulations to Andres and the team for such a wonderful world cup. Regards, PERICOZ: RCD Espanyol Supporters Club (Australia).

Posted by: PERICOZ | July 11, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

With the 2010 World Cup in South Africa garnering immense attention from all corners of the globe, including here in the United States where soccer usually attracts a cold shoulder, the time has come for the world’s most popular sporting event to be played every two years.
http://philiptortora.blogspot.com/2010/06/world-cup-should-be-played-every-two.html

Posted by: philtortora | July 11, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

@Reignking

He did get a yellow for it but why does it matter anyway??

Posted by: rockotodd | July 11, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Don't know any thing about you or your blog, Phil, but I hate that idea and I think most people are going to disagree with you.

Posted by: tphasbdp | July 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Phill, I disagree... I like the format now and I enjoy watching the qualifying tournaments that are between each World Cup.

Posted by: mpkomal | July 11, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the yellow comment Goldmember, you're team should have had couple more sent off.

Posted by: maqroll21

"You're"?

My team is Spain. Try again.

Rock: just looked it up -- you are right. I could've sworn he didn't because I thought he had been carrying one. It was hard to keep track :)

Posted by: Reignking | July 11, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Andres DID get a yellow for that and it was well worth it. There were a couple of criminal fouls out there, one against Iniesta, but in the end, the BEST TEAM won!

Visca el Barza y Casillas

Posted by: juanma_carr | July 11, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Andres DID get a yellow for that and it was well worth it. There were a couple of criminal fouls out there, one against Iniesta, but in the end, the BEST TEAM won!

Visca el Barza y Casillas

Posted by: juanma_carr | July 11, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

but in the end, the BEST TEAM won!

Posted by: juanma_carr | July 11, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Germany beat Uruguay.

I like Spain and enjoy watching them play but the game last night was like watching American football, a stop every 5 seconds and the teams were never able to get into a rhythm. I don’t think either team really showed that they were the best, or even that good. If you showed the Germany vs. Uruguay match and Spain vs. Holland match to some soccer lover who has been in a coma for a month and asked him which one was the final for the WC he would probably guess Germany is now the WC champion.

Posted by: Southeasterner | July 11, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

"the game last night"

for clarification I'm in Singapore

Posted by: Southeasterner | July 11, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Southeasterner you must not know very much about football / soccer.

Yes, Germany played some attractive football in their consolation prize third place match. Just like nearly every team ever. They played with backups including their #2 goalie Butt and plenty others. They sneaked by a banged-up Uruguayan team that though they played well never were considered nearly as talented as the other three final teams.

Third place matches tend to be wide-open affairs whereas finals tend to be tight games.

But that is irrelevant. The best team was Spain. Better than Germany. How do we know? Because Spain BEAT Germany, convincingly. OK, by a 1-0 margin, but Spain dominated Germany.

Germany played some attractive football against a tactically confused Argentinian team, but against the structured Spainiards they barely saw the ball. The Germans defended defended and defended some more. They took only one shot on goal per half. Spain had all the possession, more shots, more chances, and the ball was in Germany's half the entire game. Spain made the dangerous, wide-open German team look more like Paraguay: a team in their own half praying the Spanish shots go wayward so they can hit with a counterattack. Eventually a well-deserved Spanish goal went in. Spain were the best team, and they proved it by beating the second and third best teams.

Posted by: thezapperdigital | July 12, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Where was Harkes on the broadcast? I thought he was ESPN's/ABC's lead anaylist. So the demotion of the MLS braodcasters was complete: JP banished at the start, then his mate JH?

Posted by: lgm6986 | July 12, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

Zapper,

Thank you for educating me on soccer. Now thanks to your help I will know if I'm watching a good game or bad game. whew

Instead of viewing the Spain vs. Holland game as a bunch of hacks who fouled Spain to the point where they were afraid to get near the ball and the ref couldn't take his whistle out of his mouth, I now understand from you that those were the best two teams playing soccer at its very best.

The next time I watch a soccer game that doesn’t have countless yellow cards and fouls I will know I’m watching a second rate game.

Posted by: Southeasterner | July 12, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Ian Darke and John Harkes covered the third place match

Posted by: emanon13 | July 12, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

I think you'd have to class Martin Tyler and Efan Ekoku as team #1 and Ian Darke and John Harkes as team #1A. Darke and Harkes covered all the American games, but Tyler and Ekoku covered the more important knockout games. JP and Tommy Smyth were relegated to ESPN radio, which I was able to hear on XM Sirius. JP is arguably the only American play-by-play guy to understand the game well, a nice mix of American lingo and style with the knowledge of soccer.

Posted by: paulkp | July 12, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

The fellow calling the match finally began to annoy yesterday with the way he would start a sentence, pause for several seconds, and then finish. With a football match in the foreground, I couldn't keep up with his disjointed background comments. I did like the way he did not call every touch, unlike the wild men on Univision.

At least with the Scot, Ally McBeal, thankfully sidelined, his incoherence came in short, easily ignored bursts.

Posted by: Bartolo1 | July 12, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The Spaniards were drinking Budweisers in the locker room. Ameri-snobs.

Posted by: OWNTF | July 12, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Zapperdigital, have you heard of the new internet rule? Whenever you find yourself writing "you must not know very much about [topic]," count to 10, check your hydration, and start over.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | July 12, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Maybe they needed a neutral beer -- even the beers in Spain are region-specific.

And you can't get more neutral than a watery Bud.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

How Beer Explains The World. Reignking, you've got your ticket to fame right there if it hasn't been written yet.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | July 12, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Can we start blaming the Belgians for Budweiser now? InBev did buy A-B.

Posted by: mason08 | July 12, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Sounds good. We can explain why Bud is so bad, too (because of the War). I saw something interesting on the history of cocaine last night. Some doctor invented it as a medicine. Baseball players in the 1880s used it to help their game. It wasn't until 1914 that it became the first drug to be outlawed, which, in turn, started us down the road of illegal drug trading and trying to stop it. Fascinating.

Barcelona's beer Estrella Damm is better than Madrid's Mahou -- but that's not a surprise.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Iker Casillas is one emotional guy. First, he started crying when Iniesta scored, then he started making out with a reporter.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Reignking - was it the same report who supposedly cost Spain the match in their opener against Switzerland? if it wasn't, Iker has some 'splainin to do.

Posted by: VTUnited | July 12, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

1. I like Budweiser. So there.

2. Of possible interest:

Crystal Palace Baltimore, Baltimore’s professional outdoor soccer team, will play their next four home fixtures at the Maryland SoccerPlex. These games will be:

· Wednesday, July 14 vs Rochester Rhinos (7 p.m. kick off)
· Saturday, July 24 vs AC St Louis (3 p.m. kick off)
· Saturday, July 31 vs Montreal Impact (7 p.m. kick off)
· Tuesday, August 4 vs Miami FC (7 p.m. kick off)

Posted by: OWNTF | July 12, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Reignking - was it the same report who supposedly cost Spain the match in their opener against Switzerland? if it wasn't, Iker has some 'splainin to do.

Posted by: VTUnited

Yes it was.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Curious, how many days til the start of EPL and La Liga?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | July 12, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

That's Iker's girlfriend :)

Posted by: jalves55 | July 12, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

La Liga starts at the end of August.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Party plane on the way back. I cannot believe all of the cameras/media there...

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

DCU question-

When will our DP suit up and play for DCU? Any chance after the 15 Jul transfer window?

Posted by: Wiggan | July 12, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

ESPN article -- good reminder of how Holland has played before:

"After four bookings in the first 22 minutes, I thought we were witnessing the sequel to Holland's infamous 1-0 loss to Portugal in the last World Cup, an historic orgy of bad behavior in which the referee handed out 16 yellows and four reds. "

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Bud is "the official beer sponsor of the World Cup" thus why they were drinking Budweiser. The World Cup, and all major professional sports, are marketed within an inch of their lives.

Posted by: Aerowaz | July 12, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Zapper, I think you made a great analysis, probably challenging SouthEasterner soccer knowledge wasn't the best way to approach it but I agree with you. Holland was playing well in the World Cup until the final. I was very disappointed to see Holland play such a thuggish anti football style. They once prided themselves on total football a possession style, and were “out-football" by Spain. Sad to see. But Spain a well deserved world cup champion. It would have been a tragedy if Holland pulled out a victory in PKs, considering how they approached the game.

Posted by: cambo4life | July 12, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Maybe they were drinking Budweiser because it is the King of Beers, and the exclusive Beechwood Aging produces a taste, a smoothness, and a drinkability you will find in no other beer at any price.

Did you ever think of that?

Posted by: OWNTF | July 12, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

That World Cup Final made it clear that the DVR is the greatest video technology ever. Fast-Forward until the game clock registered 116 mins then play the rest. Bypass the damned horns, the players flopping all over the ground and the majestic beauty of nothing happening. Invest 10 minutes & see it all.

Posted by: bilcas33 | July 12, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

@OWNTF: Is "drinkability" the same as the ease with which one can enjoy a beer by pouring it on one's friend? If so, I agree. I also suppose that Bud is potable, though that's like a recommendation I once got from a former employer: "hungrypug can be a very good worker under strict supervision."

In any event, I hope la furia roja got good and belligerent.

Posted by: hungrypug | July 12, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

When will our DP suit up and play for DCU?
Posted by: Wiggan

I hope this weekend b/c he should be eligible. Would like to see Hernandez, too.

Posted by: delantero | July 12, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

While Spain got a welcome home bash for winning the Cup, I think we should hold a similar party to celebrate Goff's return.

Is Ireland's Own still around in Alexandria?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | July 12, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Back to Iniesta: I'm glad he's the one who scored the winning goal. It seems to me like it's always "Xavi this," "Xavi that," and no disrespect to Xavi, who is a great player . . . but so is Iniesta. He deserves this recognition.

Posted by: dccal | July 12, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

That takes me back, Rand-al-Thor. They were never the same once they were forced to move.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

The beer in Spain falls mainly in the plane.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | July 12, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

That World Cup Final made it clear that the DVR is the greatest video technology ever. Fast-Forward until and the majestic beauty of nothing happening. Invest 10 minutes & see it all.
Posted by: bilcas33

Really? Hmm, now apply that to American football . . commercial, time out, obese players holding their ankle and needing a golf cart to get off the field, endless time outs for replays and reviews, TD, commercial, extra point, commercial, kick off, commercial, BORING!

The only good thing about an end to the World Cup is the soccer haters will withdraw from commenting on how much they dislike soccer. Ciao, don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

Posted by: delantero | July 12, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Terrible ESPN article:

"Spain wasn't quite an unlikely winner, but there's no question this World Cup didn't exactly go as advertised.

No Brazil. No Argentina. No Portugal. No England. No Italy. No France. And if you watched Spain throughout the tournament, you're not underestimating the Spaniards by thinking it's somewhat surprising that they would be hoisting the gold trophy."

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

1. congrats iniesta...great player and seemingly great guy. someone you want to root for...
2. congrats to forlan for his wonderful tourney
3. My respect for the dutch team went down like 3 notches. they are too talented to rely on overacting and thuggery.
4. oh yeah, way to go spain...

Posted by: wordup1 | July 12, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Now, delantero, I'm not a soccer hater but c'mon, that game was brutal to watch. If the game's going to become major-league popular in the US, some things will have to change. Even Pele suggested that the goal be moved into the field like lacross and that there be a "blue line" beyond which there would be no offsides. Instant Replay must be implemented and officials have to be held acountable and explain their calls afterward. unlike Europe, South Amer & Africa, everywhere in the US soccer is the 3rd or 4th sport and will remain so until changes are made. Like it or not, it pales by camparison/heritage and gets few of our best athletes. You think the Ghana player who blew thru our defense and scored the winning goal against the US would be playing soccer if he grew up here? Heck no, he'd be a tailback playing on Sundays.

Posted by: bilcas33 | July 12, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

bilacas33, the game won't change, and ideas like yours, etc to change it have been around longer than you can imagine.

And, US defender, Oguchi Onyweu is 6 4, 200 pounds. According to your logic, he'd definitely play in the NFL, if he grew up in the US . . . oh, wait . . .

Your assumption that it doesn't get the best athletes is silly, showing little understanding of what's involved in playing 90 minutes of the Cup, or in MLS for that matter.

And what makes you think a 300 lb ball of fat that makes up an offensive lineman is a better athlete or a 180 lb wide receiver that's fast, but only catches the ball 1-2 times a game? Please, spare me.

Posted by: delantero | July 12, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the primary purpose of soccer rules needs to be 'to make the game more palatable to a larger fraction of the American public.'

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | July 12, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

If Americans don't like soccer after that US-Algeria game, tough.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Back to beer...

I must agree with Reignking. Ireland's Own ain't what it used to be since they were forced to move across the courtyard.

Us Alexandrians (We Alexandrians?) who like a good pint or a wee dram now go to O'Connell's on lower King Street.

Posted by: BlackandRedRedDevil | July 12, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

More proof of my Atlanta-snobbery: on the few occasions I do drink beer, it's always Sweetwater.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | July 12, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

or a 180 lb wide receiver that's fast, but only catches the ball 1-2 times a game? Please, spare me.

Posted by: delantero | July 12, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

========================

you talking about Rob Findley?

Posted by: OWNTF | July 12, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Any TV on the Champions League qualifiers tomorrow? I need my international soccer fix.

Who does everyone like in the PFC Litex Lovech (BUL)/FK Rudar Pljevlja (MNE) tilt?

Posted by: IamAM | July 12, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

unlike Europe, South Amer & Africa, everywhere in the US soccer is the 3rd or 4th sport and will remain so until changes are made.

Posted by: bilcas33 | July 12, 2010 1:37 PM
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The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. The other 95 pecent mostly don't care whether soccer is the third or fourth sport in this county. Any proposed rule changes will have to resonate with the entire worldwide football community.

Posted by: universityandpark | July 12, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I like Litex Lovech to win pretty handily, you almost always have to go with the Bulgarian champions in these early rounds. Can't find any of them on TV, not even DirecTV's UEFA channels. Clearly, there's an anti Montenegran bias run amok here.

Posted by: harkes4ever | July 12, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Zapperdigital, have you heard of the new internet rule? Whenever you find yourself writing "you must not know very much about [topic]," count to 10, check your hydration, and start over.
Posted by: fallschurch1
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You must not know very much about internet message boards.
:-)

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | July 12, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

There is no rest for the weary. The USWNT has a friendly against Sweden on BSPN tomorrow night. The U20 WWC starts this week, with USA matches shown on either BSPN2 or BSPNU, along with BSPN3.com. Players with local connections include Christine Nairn (Bowie) and Jenna Richmond (Centreville):

http://www.ussoccer.com/News/U-20-WNT/2010/07/All-Three-US-Group-Matches-To-Be-Televised-at-2010-FIFA-U20-Womens-World-Cup.aspx

And of course, United is back in action on Thursday.

Posted by: universityandpark | July 12, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they were drinking Budweiser because it is the King of Beers, and the exclusive Beechwood Aging produces a taste, a smoothness, and a drinkability you will find in no other beer at any price.
Posted by: OWNTF
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You must not know very much about beer.
:-)

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | July 12, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

bilcas33 - you sound quite arrogant suggesting that the world should change the way they play the beautiful game, specifically to appease American viewers. its not America's game to change. if you think its boring the way it is, then don't watch it.

Posted by: VTUnited | July 12, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I fogot to ask whether Nairn lives in Boalsburg.

Posted by: universityandpark | July 12, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Throwin' a few beers back and a few darts forward was always a good time at Ireland's Own. But it's been a long time... I didn't know it moved. Alas.

Out in the sticks, We Haymarketers (Us Haymarketeers?) only drink imports, like Iron City Light and Tecate.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | July 12, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Marca is following the celebrations here -- just a sea of red everywhere.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

It moved around the corner from its original location across from City Hall, years ago...

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: universityandpark | July 12, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

VTUnited says: "bilcas33 - you sound quite arrogant suggesting that the world should change the way they play the beautiful game, specifically to appease American viewers. its not America's game to change. if you think its boring the way it is, then don't watch it."

No, I said: "If the game's going to become major-league popular in the US, some things will have to change."

I don't care if it does or not. I'm happy being interested only every 4 years. Those who are promoting professional soccer here do care about how the game's followed by the US audience when there's no World Cup or Olympics going on. For them I stand by my contention that without changes it will remain a minor sport in the US.

Posted by: bilcas33 | July 12, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Out in the sticks, We Haymarketers (Us Haymarketeers?) only drink imports, like Iron City Light and Tecate.
Posted by: Rand-al-Thor
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I thought you just drank moonshine from the stills you keep in the woods, away from the revenuers.

In MoCo, we drink a Chardonnay and Red Bull cocktail.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | July 12, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Oops - I take it all back. Soccer has arrived in the US.

From my local paper:

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/news/2010/jul/12/CUPGAT12-ar-288613/

Posted by: bilcas33 | July 12, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

signed up for notification when the UEFA CL Fantasy game goes live... Hope we can get a bunch of folks in on it this year...

Posted by: DadRyan | July 12, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Here's additional evidence that soccer has arrived in this country:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66668S20100707

Posted by: universityandpark | July 12, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

dadryan -- of course I was in it. It's frustrating since you never know who is going to play.

Posted by: Reignking | July 12, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm always up for a gratuitous Boalsburg shout. I may be passing through my hometown shire this coming weekend, between DC United matches....

Posted by: JkR- | July 12, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

For them I stand by my contention that without changes it will remain a minor sport in the US.

Posted by: bilcas33 | July 12, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

i actually wouldn't mind if the sport remains a "minor sport" in the US, free of the excesses of the major sports (for example, narcistic press conferences to announce career decisions) AS LONG AS we keep getting the type of TV coverage we just received AND the MLS remains relatively viable.

Posted by: birdynumnum | July 12, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Where was Harkes on the broadcast? I thought he was ESPN's/ABC's lead anaylist. So the demotion of the MLS braodcasters was complete: JP banished at the start, then his mate JH?

Posted by: lgm6986 | July 12, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse


You're not SERIOUSLY complaining about no John Harkes, are you?? The guy is a moron! Half the people on this thread could do a better job than him! All he has on his resume is some years for the Nats, which to ESPN meets "employment opportunity" (see: Lalas, Barbosa, Wynalda, et al). I pray (and have sent ESPn several letters begging) for him to get fired so we won't have to hear his incessant need to destroy the beautiful game any longer. I'm fine with JP; I've always felt he does a great job. But Harkes needs to go. Now. Just like BB.

Posted by: kdiff813 | July 12, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

@bilcas33

You're right, nothing says you've arrived like a good bar brawl. Is "Penny Lane" still in Richmond? I've had a pint or two there watching some EPL games.

Posted by: harkes4ever | July 12, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

birdynumnum, I agree with that. I'd like to see more money flow to MLS to stabilize operations, but otherwise could live quite happily without the baggage of 'cultural acceptance' or whatever you'd like to call it.

And I disagree with any hate thrown towards Harkes and Bradley, both of whom are unlikely to win any awards for their current work, but are beyond the 'outrage' yardstick...

Posted by: JkR- | July 12, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

@JkR-

i never understood this need for mainstream acceptance. i think it's cool that we are all part of an "exclusive" club. why be like all the other sheep? it's the same as with music: if there is a cool "alternative" band that i like, i'd rather they just stay out of the mainstream, as long as they make enough money to keep making music.

Posted by: birdynumnum | July 12, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

blicas33:

You do know that Pelé is a world class idiot, right?

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | July 12, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I've finally caught up with this morning's print version of the Post, where I found this piece by Clarke:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/11/AR2010071103399.html

I also found this item in the Metro section about the local Dutch gathering place (I wonder what the Spanish counterpart was):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/11/AR2010071103471.html

Posted by: universityandpark | July 12, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

@JkR-

i never understood this need for mainstream acceptance. i think it's cool that we are all part of an "exclusive" club. why be like all the other sheep? it's the same as with music: if there is a cool "alternative" band that i like, i'd rather they just stay out of the mainstream, as long as they make enough money to keep making music.

Posted by: birdynumnum

agreed - the shiny ESPN coverage was amazing, but then you had to deal with College Football guys like Fowler and Tirico bloviating about the need for instant replay, or lack of scoring.

Posted by: VTUnited | July 12, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

The weirdest thing just happened -- my son said "Arjen Robben" and I fell to the ground.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | July 12, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who don't mind keeping the sport "2nd class" in this country are INSANE. That Is completely selfish and detrimental to the game as a whole in this country. Anyone who truly loves the game wants it to grow....and yes, gain popularity. We want a better domestic league, we want a better national side. For those things to happen, we must have a country that sees it as a viable "1st sport" option. I don't know about you all, but I want to see us hoist the World Cup in my lifetime. If some of you had your way, I fear that would remain an impossible feat.

Posted by: Hoost | July 12, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Joe Doc: push the button on your medical alert bracelet and tell Brinks Security or whoever answers that you tripped over your Heineken bottle and can't get up. A referee and four stretcher bearers will appear in minutes.

Posted by: dcarmy | July 12, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Back to alt rock. Here's my latest obsession:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCzFYU17Soo

Can't wait til they make it to the 930 club.

Posted by: dccal | July 12, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I mean, when I'm back in DC. They're playing there tonight, but I'm in California.

Posted by: dccal | July 12, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

concerning the question where was JP during the world cup broadcasts? He and Tommy Smyth were doing live play by play for ESPN radio.

This trio of announcers ( Martin Tyler, Ian Darke and Derek Rae ) were outstanding....

Now I can enjoy the future Euro championships and World Cups without the blasted plastic air horns being heard in the background.

Posted by: terpfan4141 | July 12, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 24.3 million people in the USA tuned in for the WC final. Best of all, the DC area share was higher than Seattle's.

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/07/mostwatched-world-cup-game-ever.html

Posted by: dccal | July 13, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Those of you who don't mind keeping the sport "2nd class" in this country are INSANE.

Posted by: Hoost

Or realistic. It's a short-term issue needing long-term plans, and we're not going to overtake the NFL, NBA, or MLB any time soon. It's not worth fighting about -- if people don't like soccer, fine; I don't see NBA fans trying to make me like basketball. People are being converted day-in, day-out, with great performances like the World Cup, or MLS if they can get to a match.

Posted by: Reignking | July 13, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

+1, Reignking.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | July 13, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Zapper,

Thank you for educating me on soccer. Now thanks to your help I will know if I'm watching a good game or bad game. whew

Instead of viewing the Spain vs. Holland game as a bunch of hacks who fouled Spain to the point where they were afraid to get near the ball and the ref couldn't take his whistle out of his mouth, I now understand from you that those were the best two teams playing soccer at its very best.

The next time I watch a soccer game that doesn’t have countless yellow cards and fouls I will know I’m watching a second rate game."

I hate to say it Southeasterner, but you missed the point and Zapper is totally right. No need to take offense (I guess nobody likes to be told they don't know anything). It is true that a final is going to be that much tighter than a 3rd place game which really means nothing; that's just a fact. Also, it is absolutely true that Spain COMPLETELY dominated Germany and were far superior to them. Shoot, if Argentina had been clear on how to play them they might've beaten them also (in my gut I feel England would have, had the ref crew not been wearing blinders). I do agree that Holland vs. Spain was marred by fouls (mostly by Holland), but I wouldn't say Spain was scared of touching the ball...because historically Spain can dish it out as much as they can take it.

It was tight and not that great a final, but such is the game sometimes. On the other hand, Holland vs. Uruguay was a beautifully entertaining and well played match. It was open AND first rate....so next time you find yourself enjoying this kind of match, count your blessings (or make sure you're not watching that replay ;-). Peace,

FEDE

Posted by: FEDE2 | July 15, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

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