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D.C. United stadium in Rockville? Not likely

Over the weekend, I received a juicy tip that D.C. United President Kevin Payne and General Manager Dave Kasper had met with a city councilman from Rockville, Md., to tour RedGate Golf Course, a financially troubled municipal venue ripe for development, as a possible stadium site.

Finally, I thought, the long wait is over, United just might be able to abandon crumbling RFK Stadium and move into a place of its own, just as so many of its MLS counterparts have done in recent years. It would not be the ideal location, by any means -- seven miles outside the Beltway, traffic and parking issues, more than a mile from the closest Metro station -- but a location nonetheless. And after the Poplar Point proposal fizzled and the sure-thing Prince George's County project collapsed, the club and its supporters would surely embrace any concrete plan.

United officials did acknowledge that Payne and Kasper had, indeed, met with the councilman -- a breakthrough! The Rockville mayor and director of recreation and parks told the Insider that they were aware of the course tour and meeting -- aha!

For more.....

But upon pursuing the story further, it became acutely clear to me that this idea was going nowhere. The mayor and many city residents would like to retain the land for golf. Sources familiar with the talks said United, the city and Montgomery County do not envision RedGate as a realistic site for a 20,000 to 25,000-seat soccer stadium.

Of note: The councilman initiated the conversation and, out of curiosity, United decided to take a look.

Commenting on United's search in general, spokesman Doug Hicks said: "We continue to meet with officials from various jurisdictions in the area."

In a recent interview, Payne said that the club is exploring two locations in Washington and awaiting the release of a feasibility study concerning a possible project in Baltimore. United has also talked with developers in Northern Virginia, but the political and economic climate would make the state a remote possibility.

The wait continues.....

By Steve Goff  | September 15, 2010; 12:35 PM ET
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Comments

Dear D.C. United:

Don't Go (Back) to Rockville. You'll just waste another year.

Sincerely,

Berry, Buck, Mills & Stipe

Posted by: Miles_Standish_Proud | September 15, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey, at least they're exploring all options even if they're a long-shot.

Posted by: VercengetorixII | September 15, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

maybe Fenty's ouster will help United. I can't recall Gray's feelings on the whole matter.

Posted by: torrey151 | September 15, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wake me when they're in loudoun.

Posted by: nairbsod | September 15, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Gray has since retracted his supportive statements of a DCU stadium. City Paper had a story on it last week. I know longer blame "local officials" for not getting this done. No local goverments publically support a stadium but FOs around the country seems to manage...all accept this one of course.

Posted by: ATPDC | September 15, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"no" longer, that is.

Posted by: ATPDC | September 15, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Baseball, golf... what lame sport is going to thwart us next time, dressage?

Posted by: UnitedDemon | September 15, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Publicly-subsidized golf. I love it.

Posted by: OWNTF | September 15, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

As someone that doesn't live very far from Redgate, I was already saving up for season tickets! Oh, well.

Seriously, is the Stadium not THE biggest issue facing the future of DC United? Without a new stadium soon, it won't matter what DPs are signed, who is the coach, or even who is the GM. The team won't last in the DC area more than 3-5 years without firm plans for a new staidum before then, in my humble opinion.

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | September 15, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Does the recent results of the mayor race help DCU in the district?

Posted by: ihillvt | September 15, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Dressage is NOT a lame sport . . . it's just horse-play. [Sorry, couldn't resist]

Given the number of hammies and hernies the team has had, we need to be careful of what sport we call lame.

Posted by: edmundburke247 | September 15, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Think of all of the jobs this stadium could create! Think of all of the uninsured construction workers and architects that would be covered! Think of the shorter distances the Rockville Mercedes, Escalades and Jags will be driving, as opposed to RFK! And the stadium could double is a migrant worker day laborer site!

But no, the people of Rockville need to play golf.

There HAS to be a way to guilt these bleeding hearts into building a stadium.

C'mon Fischy, fallschurch1, croftonpost... help us out here. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | September 15, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't even blame the FO, unless you want me to blame them for not having an extra $150m-$200m laying around. It's just a tough situation to get a stadium built, period, and each market has its own challenges. Ours is arguably the toughest - 3 jurisdictions, no real need for massive economic development, an existing stadium that we already have to ourselves, stadium fatigue following the Nats, and a crowded sports market.

Posted by: VercengetorixII | September 15, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: stig1 | September 15, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

This stadium situation depresses me.

On a brighter note, DCU player rankings from the Toronto game are up on the fan blog:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats/2010/09/fw_dc_united_vs_toronto_fc_pla.html#more

Pretty funny.

Posted by: prots21 | September 15, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse


Community Development Authority financing of infrastructure is a wonderful thing...even in Virginia:
http://ballparkbiz.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/vip-baseball-rounding-third-and-coming-home-in-loudoun/

Posted by: seahawkdad | September 15, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Unless Lamar Hunt rises from the dead and offers to pay to build a stadium, no strings attached, start getting used to (Insert City Name Here) United.

Posted by: Juan-John1 | September 15, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

stig1: I'll be at many of those games, if not a season ticket holder. thanks!
....can't was just get the VW stadium over with - attach it to their HQ, put a race track around it for the annual VW turbo diesel race (so it's dual use), and blammo! It's what the people want!

Posted by: nairbsod | September 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

There HAS to be a way to guilt these bleeding hearts into building a stadium.
Posted by: Rand-al-Thor
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"Sarah Palin supports the golf course."

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 15, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Red Gate Golf Course isn't too bad. Shoot some pretty decent scores there, although the beer-cart lady seemed to be very hit/miss during a round of 18.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 15, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I also think Sarah Palin probably reads Golf Digest since you know she reads "all of 'em, any of 'em."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 15, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"Unless Lamar Hunt rises from the dead and offers to pay to build a stadium, no strings attached, start getting used to (Insert City Name Here) United."

Agreed JuanJohn.

I sadly await the day when I can HATE the Baltimore United.

Payne.... utterly useless you are.

Posted by: Greent | September 15, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Steve Goff, you are a tease. You put the positive stuff "above the fold" so to speak, and then we have the click to read the "more" that says, just foolin!

Posted by: DCUSince96 | September 15, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Dougmacintyre: actually, the stadium *isn't* the biggest issue for DCU's future. A related and more important issue is Will Chang's search for additional investors. With more (local) investors, a stadium deal becomes more likely for a number of reasons. Without them, financing will be almost impossible.

This is the reasoning that Chang has expressed on more than one occasion.

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | September 15, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Might I add, Miles, that I'm impressed with the REM reference right from the start...

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | September 15, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

So maybe it's time for Will Chang to join KP in the Q/A's??

Posted by: DCB23 | September 15, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If you want to get more depressed here's an article of Houston's developments on their new $80 million stadium to be ready for the start of the 2012 season:
http://www.houstondynamo.com/news/2010/09/populous-selected-design-dynamo-stadium

Posted by: grognard66 | September 15, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Goff,

The article from the Gazette that was linked doesn't seem all that definitive to me. This doesn't mean a soccer stadium will appear or get public subsidies either, just that it doesn't seem like a forgone conclusion that Redgate will continue as before...

Rand - doesn't seem like you spend much time in Rockville, perhaps confusing it with Potomac, or Fairfax County, with your comments about the cars. Not sure about the rest of the comment, a joke? Simply trying to provoke your political opponents on this soccer site? Either way, not up to your usual standard.

Posted by: assocfoot | September 15, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully MLS displays the same kind of patience and support for the DC market as they did for NY until we get a top quality owner who is really willing to invest.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703376504575491811335917070.html

Posted by: SeanWG | September 15, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The United need to buy some land, hire a crew, and start moving dirt. Waiting for a local government to gift them a stadium is a lost cause.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | September 15, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Assocfootball is right. The luxury-car-driving part of Rockville is called North Potomac.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | September 15, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

We need to claim ThePowerBaiter's property by eminent domain, for the stadium, or just for the fun of it...

Posted by: fischy | September 15, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Dear D.C. United:

Don't Go (Back) to Rockville. You'll just waste another year.

Sincerely,

Berry, Buck, Mills & Stipe
---------------------------------------------

I know it might sound strange, but I believe we'll be coming back before too long.

Posted by: j01usna | September 15, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

also think Sarah Palin probably reads Golf Digest since you know she reads "all of 'em, any of 'em."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop

Based on what I hear from her I'm not sure she can read at all.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 15, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

"Based on what I hear from her (Sarah Palin) I'm not sure she can read at all."


Agreed.

Posted by: Palin-McCain2012 | September 15, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Thor, it should be clear, from previous comments of mine, which I'm sure you have archived, that I'm not in favor of public financing for sports stadiums.

For example, see my famous comment along the lines of, "If it is such a good investment for the public, then how come some profit-minded investor has not come along and snapped it up?" Brilliant, ain't it?

The ball is in your court -- tell us how Chang deserves public help, i.e. welfare for the rich, because he has obviously worked harder than the rest of us.

I recall either you or OWNTF admonishing us lefties that just because you/he are/is conservative, doesn't mean he favors public subsidies for this sort of thing . . . I'll give it to OWNTF, must have been him.

I wish VW would just pay for the thing and build it. Honestly, it would be a good investment, wouldn't it?? Shouldn't you be able to get a decent return on a nice SSS somewhere in metro (blanking) DC??? Between United and, say, Scorpions concerts?

Posted by: fallschurch1 | September 15, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Dear D.C. United:
Don't Go (Back) to Rockville. You'll just waste another year.
Sincerely,
Berry, Buck, Mills & Stipe
---------------------------------------------
I know it might sound strange, but I believe we'll be coming back before too long.
Posted by: j01usna | September 15, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse
=======================================

You'll wind up in some stadium that's full time filth and nowhere left to go
Come home to an empty house, running around all by yourselves
I know it might sound strange, but I believe we'll be coming back before too long.
Nothing left but Rockville, nothing left but Rockville, nothing left but Rockville
Cause we may only have a year :)

Posted by: croftonpost | September 15, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I heard Sarah Palin can see Rockville from her house......:)

Posted by: croftonpost | September 15, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow. What's with all of the politics that have nothing to do with getting a soccer stadium???

I understand that they are supposded to be jokes but c'mon.
It's a soccer blog...

Posted by: yankiboy | September 16, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Wow. What's with all of the politics that have nothing to do with getting a soccer
Posted by: yankiboy
##########################

Yankee Boy gots politics all over his name...Johny Reb sez 'The South's gonna do it agin!

(Sorry, YB you are correct!!!)

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 16, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Nah, the silly nickname that I was given and just sort of stuck hasn't got anything to do with politics. The worst part is when people ask me if I am a NY yankees fan (hate that team with a passion)...

That, while understandable--is very, very annoying.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 16, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I also saw a post on BigSoccer a day or two ago to the effect that the issuance of the Maryland Stadium Authority feasibility study on a Baltimore site has been put off till October - wonder if United brass asked them to keep it under their hats a bit longer to avoid messing up STH renewals for 2011 - the deadline for renewal at the 5% discount is 1st November and the absolute deadline for renewal at whatever the full 2011 rate will be is 17th December.

Posted by: Lukashenko | September 16, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Yankee Boy gots politics all over his name...Johny Reb sez 'The South's gonna do it agin!

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Johnny Reb? REM? Maybe this should be United's new ad campaign?

Johnny Reb, what's the price of fans
Forty a piece or three for one dollar?
Hey captain, don't you want to buy
Some bone chains and toothpicks?

Posted by: IamAM | September 16, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Yankee Boy gots politics all over his name...Johny Reb sez 'The South's gonna do it agin!

-----

Johnny Reb? REM? Maybe this should be United's new ad campaign?

Johnny Reb, what's the price of fans
Forty a piece or three for one dollar?
Hey captain, don't you want to buy
Some bone chains and toothpicks?

Posted by: IamAM | September 16, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

There HAS to be a way to guilt these bleeding hearts into building a stadium.

C'mon Fischy, fallschurch1, croftonpost... help us out here. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | September 15, 2010 1:14 PM |
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Can't you try using saidin to make it happen?

Posted by: 1995hoo | September 16, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

As a fan of REM and DC United, here is my statement to the owners and management of DC United:

"You fill in the mortar." We as fans will "fill in the harmony"

Posted by: stephen_james2 | September 16, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Yankiboy,

I hear you but please they were very funny.....as long as the posts don't get serious then it's all right with me.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | September 16, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

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