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Tuesday kickaround: D.C. United injuries, Edu and Jones in Champions League, Seattle's Open Cup crowd, CONCACAF schedule, UVA at White House

*The almost-daily D.C. United injury report: Goalkeeper Bill Hamid, who wasn't on the game-day roster Saturday in anticipation of shoulder surgery, is now scheduled to have the operation, performed by the famed James Andrews, Wednesday in Birmingham. He is expected to recuperate in time for 2011 preseason. ... There are rumblings that midfielder-forward Chris Pontius will have hamstring surgery later this week in Los Angeles and be sidelined several months. Awaiting confirmation. [UPDATE: It has been confirmed.] ... The prognosis for midfielder Clyde Simms should be made public today. A sports hernia is suspected, an injury that would probably sideline him for a couple of weeks.

*Americans in UEFA Champions League:
MF Maurice Edu and Rangers at Manchester United (live at 2:30 p.m. ET on Fox Sports Net, tape at 5 p.m. on Fox Soccer Channel, tape at 7 on Fox Sports Espanol, tape at 7:30 on Fox Soccer Plus)

MF Jermaine Jones and Schalke at Lyon (live at 2:45 p.m. ET on DirecTV, Channel 482)

Other matches
Twente-Inter Milan 2:30 p.m. ET, FSC
Werder Bremen-Spurs 2:30 p.m. FSP (tape at 5 on FSE)
Barcelona-Panathinaikos 2:45 p.m. FSE, DirecTV (481)
Benfica-Hapoel Tel Aviv 2:45 p.m. DirecTV (483)
Bursaspor-Valencia 2:45 p.m. DirecTV (484)
Copenhagen-Rubin Kazan 2:45 p.m. DirecTV (485)

For much more.....

*With more than 22,000 tickets already sold, the Seattle Sounders will set the all-time attendance record for the U.S. Open Cup final Oct. 5 against the Columbus Crew. The current mark is 21,583 in 1929 between New York Hakoah and Madison Kennel Club of St. Louis. Since MLS launched, the biggest draw was 19,164 in 2000 for the Chicago Fire and Miami Fusion.

*The group stage of the CONCACAF Champions League continues:
Columbus Crew (1-1-0) vs. Joe Public (0-1-1) 8 p.m. ET, FSC
Monterrey (2-0-0) vs. Marathon (1-1-0) 8 p.m. Telefutura
Saprissa (1-1-0) vs. Seattle Sounders (0-2-0) 10 p.m. FSC
Municipal (0-1-1) vs. Santos Laguna (2-0-0) 10 p.m. Telefutura

*The U.S. under-20 national team ended a poor run in Peru with a pair of losses to the hosts, 2-1 and 2-0. The Americans, using all professionals, lost all four matches by a combined 11-1.

*A day after being honored at the White House, reigning NCAA champion Virginia, ranked No. 2 in the country with a 2-0-1 record, will host Marist (2-2-0) in a nonleague match tonight in Charlottesville.

By Steve Goff  |  September 14, 2010; 7:00 AM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF Champions League , College Soccer , D.C. United , Euro Champions League , TV , U.S. Open Cup  | Tags: D.C. United, UEFA Champions League  
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Kick some a$$ in Public tonight Crew!!!

Posted by: silverrey | September 14, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

CL already? Time to get to and make my fantasy team.

Posted by: Reignking | September 14, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Someone should do some research to see how many injuries DC United has suffered in the last two seasons compared to the rest of MLS.

Posted by: wanker82 | September 14, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Where's our big announcement?! (I know, wrong blog.)

Posted by: DCB23 | September 14, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Re: the injuries.

For the last two years we're been hearing from KP and Kasper about what an incredible unlucky run of injuries this team has had and how the heavy match schedule, all those non-MLS game, really put a huge strain on the team's health.

We heard much about how this year would be different: no CONCACAF would mean less wear-and-tear was among the many reasons we were told this year would mean better overall team health.

Doesn't seem to have worked out that way. KP and Kasper should be ashamed of themselves if they lie to us once again and use injuries as any sort of excuse for the team's negative performance this year. It is time for them to man up and admit that the player personnel decisions just weren't good enough, that the players they hired are in many ways not as sound health-wise as they could be, and that the technical management of the team is largely responsible for the a poor physical condition.

Why are there teams with better won-loss records? Not only because they have superior talent, but because they stay healthy. They hire players whose fitness and health lend themselves to avoiding serious breakdowns; the coaches and team staff carefully manage any problems thoroughly and stay ahead of possible deeper problems. In other words, those team staffs are competent and honest in how they do their jobs.

Posted by: lgm6986 | September 14, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Hamstrings and sports hernias.

Where have we heard those before?

I simply no longer can believe that these are coincidences. If the play on the field doesn't prove that something in the training regimen is flawed beyond the head coach's instructions, then the injuries do.

Seriously, it's at times like I feel KP and Kasper are trying to let the team rot away into vapors (if such a thing is possible), hoping we won't notice.

The team makes me sick sometimes.

Or maybe that's just a hernia.

Posted by: writered21 | September 14, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Kick some a$$ in Public tonight Crew!!!
Posted by: silverrey


I HATE the Screw hope they lose big. Anti VAMOS Screw and Flounders!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | September 14, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I've made my fantasy CL team at here is the group info. I was able to "renew" last year's group.

Argy Bargy Goff
Your league code is : 156427-27328

Posted by: Reignking | September 14, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Training programs and habits, along with individual players' physiologies, may be an issue. But bigger issues are roster depth and institutional psychology.

The club is still pulling itself out of its 2008 hole. Fortunately, there seems to be less of a tendency to take longshot flyers with senior roster spots (the Janickis, the Khumalos, the Szetelas, etc--guys who simply have demonstrated no ability to help an MLS team beat another MLS team). A more solid roster from end to end leaves you less exposed on the field when injuries happen.

It also leaves you less psychologically exposed. It has become way too easy to denigrate the few players who do stay healthy, because at least we have the opportunity to watch them lose. It also becomes WAY too easy to lionize players who can't stay healthy ("if we only had player X healthy, things would be different..."), for the opposite reason. Fans and management fall into the same trap, and in either case, tend to be wrong most of the time.

The consequence of this is rushing these imaginary magic-bullet players back from injury too soon, which begets additional and often more severe injuries, and a bench that's even less prepared to step in for the long haul.

Apart from the back line, I seriously doubt United's injuries are significantly worse than other teams'. But the irrational belief in its own greatness, that wearing black white and red turns total dogs into solid pros, and that being injured turns middling players into essential missing pieces--is costing this club dearly.

But the denial has been dented by three years of total misery, and a new coach has energized the club. If they can keep adjusting the basis of their decision making to accommodate a bit more reality, the decision making will lead to better results.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | September 14, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I've made my fantasy CL team at here is the group info. I was able to "renew" last year's group.
Posted by: Reignking

Didn't DadRyan create a group yesterday? I joined that, is everyone moving to the old one?

Posted by: rockotodd | September 14, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Yet another toast to the Sounders fans, who are doing us proud. Great stuff in Seattle.

Sorry, DadRyan...

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | September 14, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

One of the big French teams just fired its conditioning coach because of an excessive number of hamstring pulls.

Posted by: b18bolo | September 14, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

One of the big French teams (Marseilles or Lyon) just fired its conditioning coach because of an excessive number of hamstring pulls.

Posted by: b18bolo | September 14, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Didn't DadRyan create a group yesterday? I joined that, is everyone moving to the old one?

Posted by: rockotodd

I don't know. Guess I wasn't around as much.

Posted by: Reignking | September 14, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse


Looks like it doesn't matter, you can join up to 10 leagues.

Posted by: rockotodd | September 14, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse


I couldn't agree with you more. There a lot of teams in professional sports who do not have the proper staff in place in very key areas. I think the trainers and fitness go hand in hand.

Posted by: no_recess | September 14, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I only posted the info in like 3 different threads... ugh.

Posted by: DadRyan | September 14, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

@GoG: re: "The club is still pulling itself out of its 2008 hole."

The hole started about 2 feet deep. The club is still digging, and is 2/3 the way to China now.

Posted by: Ron16 | September 14, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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