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Posted at 2:00 PM ET, 11/24/2010

Results of the MLS expansion draft

By Steve Goff

PORTLAND TIMBERS
1. FC Dallas MF Dax McCarty
(FCD protects MF Daniel Hernandez)
2. Columbus D Eric Brunner
(Crew protects MF Kevin Burns)
3. Columbus MF Adam Moffat
(Crew no longer subject to selections)
4. Colorado D Anthony Wallace
(Rapids protect MF Wells Thompson)
5. Real Salt Lake D David Horst
(RSL protects MF Collen Warner)
6. Real Salt Lake F Robbie Findley*
(RSL no longer subject to selections)
7. Chicago MF Peter Lowry
(Fire protects D Dasan Robinson)
8. Chivas USA D Jonathan Bornstein*
(Chivas no longer subject to selections)
9. D.C. United D Jordan Graye
(United protects MF Kurt Morsink)
10. San Jose MF Arturo Alvarez
(Earthquakes no longer subject to selections)

VANCOUVER WHITECAPS
1. Seattle MF Sanna Nyassi
(Sounders protect D Patrick Ianni)
2. Dallas F Atiba Harris
(FCD no longer subject to selections)
3. Seattle MF Nathan Sturgis
(Sounders no longer subject to selections)
4. Philadelphia MF Shea Salinas
(Union protects GK Chris Seitz)
5. Chivas USA F Alan Gordon
(Chivas protects D Mariano Trujillo)
6. Toronto F O'Brian White
(TFC protects MF Julian de Guzman)
7. Philadelphia F Alejandro Moreno
(Union no longer subject to selections)
8. San Jose GK Joe Cannon
(Earthquakes protect D Tim Ward)
9. Kansas City D Jonathan Leathers
(Wizards protect GK Eric Kronberg)
10. Chicago MF John Thorrington

*Findley is looking to sign with a club outside of MLS. Bornstein is headed to Tigres in Mexico. Portland will maintain their MLS rights.

Graye, 23, has been affiliated with United since 2001, when he joined the youth academy. He started at the University of North Carolina and was D.C.'s fourth-round draft pick last winter. Beset by injuries, United used him at left and right back for 20 starts. His 1,662 minutes were fifth most on the club.

The Los Angeles Galaxy, New York Red Bulls, New England Revolution and Houston Dynamo did not lose anyone.

UPDATES: Portland sent McCarty to D.C. United for Rodney Wallace, returned Anthony Wallace to Colorado for allocation money, and dealt Alvarez to Real Salt Lake for a second-round pick. Vancouver traded Nyassi to Colorado for an international roster slot, dealt White to Seattle for allocation money; and sent Gordon and Moreno to Chivas USA for allocation money and an international roster slot.

By Steve Goff  | November 24, 2010; 2:00 PM ET
Categories:  MLS  | Tags:  MLS  
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Comments

Does the MLS podcast work for anyone?

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | November 24, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Seattle, Dallas and Columbus are already stripped of two players, and no other team even touched. Then Colorado loses a player. Maybe puts the lie to those who insisted NY and LA were the class of the league despite what happened in the playoffs.

COlumbus taking a big hit on depth. Maybe making it possible for DC to make a move up, if they can bring in real talent this off-season.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it works for me. Vancouver is putting together a young, but talented back line. Philly tired this last year, but it din't work for them

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

So far, so good. . . .

Approximately 115 days until United's first 2011 league match!

Posted by: Curious99 | November 24, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Portland's doing pretty well, I'm starting to envy their roster.

Ahh, Atiba Harris and Soehn. Together at last.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | November 24, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Oops -- I meant Portland going with the young defenders.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Robbie FIndley maneuvered his way to Portland, or whether he's serious about looking abroad.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Union and Seattle... new expansion teams themselves both have 2 players taken each. Chances more than 0 DC players are taken... about 12%.
The Bornstein choice is interesting too. Not sure what they get, right to sign him if he comes back from Mexico?

Posted by: jake77 | November 24, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Why did Portland draft Bornstein? Does this mean they hold his rights if he comes back to MLS? If so, for how long?

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | November 24, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Really? They took Jordan Graye? I really didn't think DC would lose anyone. Not a huge loss, but DC is going to have to find some depths.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

bummer, I thought Jordan Graye was someone to hold on to for the future.

Posted by: joe_hill | November 24, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

1. I hate expansion drafts. The expansion teams don't really get that much talent (especially in terms of starter quality). And teams lose valuable depth--guys who matter a lot to a particular team (b/c they fill an important role) get lost on another team with a different coach and a different scheme. I think a bunch of MLS sides that lost 2 players didn't lose anyone CRITICAL but if those teams have busy schedules (b/c of Superliga or Champions League), going from 17 true players to 15 on your roster--that matters. We saw that when DCU was a stronger side playing in a bunch of tournaments--we'd have 3 games in 5 days. Guys just wore out.

2. My understanding is that Findlay really is going overseas. This is kind of like choosing Jeff Parkes or Nate Jaqua in the expansion draft--they were both going overseas but both came back. So Findlay is a bit of a gamble--a good one. Fast, young, if Europe doesn't work out than you've got no worse than a great reserve on the front line and for an expansion team probably a starter.

3. Interesting that Philly lost 2 players--that has to hurt them a lot. Not b/c Moreno and Salinas were so good but b/c they've got two spots to fill in additional to everything else they needed to do.

Posted by: JoeW1 | November 24, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Really? They took Jordan Graye? I really didn't think DC would lose anyone. Not a huge loss, but DC is going to have to find some depths.

Posted by: fischy

*****

And DC United protects Rod Dyachenko...

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | November 24, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Too bad about Jordan. He has potential to grow, which is probably why he was selected.

Posted by: Curious99 | November 24, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

@metzler -- The MLS guys are talking about Portland holding FIndley and Bornstein's rights indefinitely.

Does that make any sense? There will be expansion drafts in the next two years. It seems to me that Portland should have to protect these guys in order to retain their rights. It seems unfair to cut off Chivas and RSL's rights, because they didn't protect them and are letting them go in some sense...but allow Portland to hold their rights indefinitely, without doing the same? It sounds like there might be a bad loophole that Portland is hoping to exploit.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Graye has plenty of upside. That's a loss for DC as far as I'm concerned.

Morsink? He's maxed out his mediocrity.

Posted by: delantero | November 24, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure the front office will trade the second rounder they got from NY to get Graye back.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I liked Jordan Graye. He was a good player and added depth! Expansion draft sucks...

Posted by: DCU99fan | November 24, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I thought J. Bornstein was off to Mexico?

If not, the Timbers on my Toes, this is how it goes . . .

will have a good D Graye, Brunner, Bornstein and X (?) with GK Cronin

Posted by: delantero | November 24, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

They said they will hold Findley and Bornstein's right for 2 years, not indefinitely. That's a bummer about Graye, I would have liked to keep him for future depth. He is young with some real upside. If we didn't have so many injuries this year he would have probably only played in the Open Cup.

Posted by: Golden_Child | November 24, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Some really solid players (Moreno, Findley, Dax, Alvarez, Cannon) but pulling back Morsink...sad state of affairs.

And the Bornstein pick?!? There must be some bonus draft pick they get for losing a guy to Mexico.

Posted by: Reignking | November 24, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe there is a 2-year rule. I think all they have to do is offer a contract, If the player refuses to sign, they retain his rights. If they weren't selected, the rights could have stayed with the original teams My only quibble with this is whether they get around having to protect them in future expansion drafts just because they won't ever be on the roster...

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

With Graye on the roster in Portland, there is at least one game in which DC United's forwards will get good service.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 24, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

So, per Goff, we could have placed Jaime on the list, but kept Graye protected?

Hmm, the 2011 season already bites.

Posted by: delantero | November 24, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

@delantero -- I don't know what you're talking about. There's no connection between Graye and Moreno except that United didn't put either on their 11-man protection list. One pkayer they didn't want back and they thouhght the other was likely to be picked than the 11 they did protect.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm having trouble typing today. -- THe other -- Graye -- they thought was LESS likely to be picked than the 11 men they did protect.

Teams submitted an 11-man protection list. All the other players were supposed to be made available in the draft. What happened with Moreno is that the league didn't include him on the "available" list. That doesn't affect the 11 guys the team did decide to protect -- except in the sense that DC had no reason to protect Moreno. Which is why they didn't. Has nothing to do with Graye or anyone else they left unprotectd

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Shame to lose Graye. He was academy and it's good to have those guys on your roster (like it's good to have local players too) b/c it shows you're more than just a bunch of mercenaries.

Graye doesn't cripple us, he probably won't turn out to have a long MLS career. But it's a little bit of cheap, young depth we just loss. And you rationalize part of the terrible sucking from last year by saying that players like Najar, Hamid and Graye got a lot of minutes--and then we lose Graye.

Posted by: JoeW1 | November 24, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

@Golden_Child -- THere is a rule that cuts off rights at just under 2 eyars, for players taken in the Superdraft, if they don't sign.

"player who was drafted by a particular team through the SuperDraft and did not sign, is placed on that team's "College Protected List" until the second December 31 immediately following the draft in question, after which the team loses the rights to sign the player."

That's a SuperDraft rule for college players. The rule that seems to apply here:

"A team retains the rights to the player indefinitely following the expiration of a contract only if attempts were made to re-sign the player."

My question is whether this creates a loophole that puts Portland in a better position than Chivas or RSL Can they retain those rights even through an expansion draft next year (Montreal) and in 2012 (NY Cosmos), without using a roster protection slot?

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Too bad these expansion teams weren't allowed to deplete United's entire roster (and front office).

Posted by: grognard66 | November 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Really? They decided to protect Morstink over... well, anyone else that doesn't scream at the ref like a 6 year old?!

Posted by: Dynaformer | November 24, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Losing Graye probably puts more pressure on the team to hold on to Ethan White as a GA/Homegrown player. White's a better prospect, and has more experience in his two years in college than Graye had in his four. Adding WHite and Shanofsky would allow the team to focus on a more offensive pick in the draft....maybe Salgado,, Nagbe or Powers, if he decides to come out.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So, per Goff, we could have placed Jaime on the list, but kept Graye protected?

Hmm, the 2011 season already bites.

Posted by: delantero
---------------------------------------

If you mean the "available to be drafted" list, technically there wasn't one, only a "protected" list. And both Graye and Jaime were not on that. It was MLS that screwed up when they complied a list of available players and left Jaime off it.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with anything about how DCU handled Jaime.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | November 24, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

@Dynaformer -- After Gray was taken, DC had the choice of pulling back a player -- adding to the protection list. Their choice was between Morsink and McTavish. Not that they were going to lose either of them, but I can't quibble with the choice they made.

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I still can't believe that Graye was taken when there were prospects like Austin da Luz, or more experienced players like Shavar Thomas and Tim Ward available. Portland did well with theeir first picks, but I gotta question the bottom picks

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

delantero...one two oh my God!

Posted by: Reignking | November 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not too crushed about losing Graye, but I'm a bit surprised that they pulled back Morsink instead of McTavish (another outside back with some versatility). It was Soehn picking, after all, not Onalfo.

And I'd actually feel pretty good about it if Namoff announced the resumption of his playing career, say, tomorrow.

Posted by: benonthehill | November 24, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Graye is no loss at all. Depth only if you want to use him in a game you don't care if you lose. I watched his incompetence all season. The key for me was the three separate occasions where he ball-watched while his mark made a far post run for a goal. One time yes, but three means he doesn't have a soccer brain. Nice wasted pick Portland.

Posted by: griffin1108 | November 24, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

@fischy - I meant basically what benonthehill said... I figured they'd protect McT over him.

Posted by: Dynaformer | November 24, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Feel sorry for those selected to go to Soehn's gulag in Vancouver. he is not a good person.

Posted by: lgm6986 | November 24, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

United acquires Dax McCarty...! We lose Wallace and a 4th rounder

Posted by: goonerunited | November 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I dislike expansion drafts, too, because IT MEANS THERE IS EXPANSION, which I dislike more.

Posted by: lgm6986 | November 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

That deal makes protecting King and then Morsink even more curious to me, but whatever. So does this mean Boskovic moves out wide?

Posted by: benonthehill | November 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

That is awesome news. Confirmed here...

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/11/portland-deals-mccarty-to-dc-united-for-wallace-and-pick.html

United acquires Dax McCarty...! We lose Wallace and a 4th rounder

Posted by: goonerunited | November 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mbyrd28 | November 24, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

LOL OWNTF.
Jordan Graye? Meh... dude left a couple games with what looked like MINOR knocks IMHO. A little bit of a you know what, and I got called out for saying so when I did.

I thought it was ironic watching a limp wristed Graye come out of a game for James. Jordan probably didn't see Julius's heroics last year so why scrutinize him like that right? Whatevs. Bye Bye Jordo, thanks for the effort. See you couching up balls next year. Perhaps to one Dax McCarty...;)

Posted by: DadRyan | November 24, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Probably couldn't misspell coughing as ridiculously as I just did there. LOL.

Posted by: DadRyan | November 24, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

jumpin'jesusonapogostick, i suppose i made the mistake of asking a question whilst not posting well . . . right, either way ohfuggetaboutit

Posted by: delantero | November 24, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Agree with JoeW1, I hate expansion drafts. I don't understand why the league has to cannibalize itself to add team(s). Expansion teams should build through the waiver, free agent, and overseas player markets. That is how the league started, that should be how it grows.

Posted by: Ron16 | November 25, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Existing teams have a head start on snapping up available players through all of these routes. If you truly believe what you say, you should argue for the abolition of expansion drafts in all other sports, and see how far you get with fans of those sports.

Posted by: universityandpark | November 26, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Graye is NO loss. It should give our forwards some room to run next season. The loss of Wallace however could turnout to be a different story. I guess the FO thought our weakest points this year were in the mid-field and forwards. I think games are won or lost in the midfield. Can't understand pulling back Morsink. He has spirit and hustle, but not the quick skill needed for midfield.

Posted by: patrick18 | November 26, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

@Golden_Child -- THere is a rule that cuts off rights at just under 2 eyars, for players taken in the Superdraft, if they don't sign.

"player who was drafted by a particular team through the SuperDraft and did not sign, is placed on that team's "College Protected List" until the second December 31 immediately following the draft in question, after which the team loses the rights to sign the player."

That's a SuperDraft rule for college players. The rule that seems to apply here:

"A team retains the rights to the player indefinitely following the expiration of a contract only if attempts were made to re-sign the player."

My question is whether this creates a loophole that puts Portland in a better position than Chivas or RSL Can they retain those rights even through an expansion draft next year (Montreal) and in 2012 (NY Cosmos), without using a roster protection slot?

Posted by: fischy | November 24, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Fischy, not sure about the 2-year limitation on rights. I heard it on the MLS podcast of the draft. It doesn't mean that those guys are right.

Posted by: Golden_Child | November 26, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

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