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Tuesday kickaround: USA women win again, Omar Salgado scouting, Will Chang is a champion, Americans abroad, Terps vs. Tribe, TV listings

*The U.S. women's national team completed the compulsory exercises in World Cup qualifying with a 4-0 victory over Costa Rica, securing first place in the group. The Americans, who outscored three opponents by 18-0, will play Canada or Mexico in Friday's semifinals in Cancun, with the winner locking up a World Cup berth. Canada needs just a draw against Mexico tonight to win its group and avoid the Americans in the next stage.

*Omar Salgado, a highly regarded 17-year-old forward who will be available in the MLS draft, is expected to join D.C. United for informal workouts ahead of U.S. under-20 camp in Georgia. The 6-foot-4 Salgado, originally from El Paso, Tex., and a former Chivas Guadalajara prospect, trained with Everton this fall. The visit here would help United assess the 6-foot-4 striker. DCU has the third overall pick in the Jan. 13 draft in Baltimore.

*United owner Will Chang gets to raise a trophy this year, after all -- the World Series trophy. He is a partner with the San Francisco Giants, a franchise that hadn't won the title in 56 years.

*Americans abroad:
MF Maurice Edu and Rangers at Valencia
F Mike Grella, D Frank Simek for Carlisle vs. Tranmere

*Big college showdown tonight: William and Mary (12-2-2) at Maryland (12-2-1). The Tribe, which clinched first place in the CAA, is unbeaten in 10 straight (8-0-2); the Terrapins, the No. 2 seeds in the ACC tournament and the nation's top-scoring team at 2.73 goals per game, have won eight in a row. Kickoff is at 7:30 p.m. at Ludwig Field in College Park.

For UEFA Champions League TV listings.....

*Soccer on TV:
UEFA Champions League
(All times are Eastern)
Rubin Kazan-Panathinaikos 1:30 p.m. DirecTV (481)

Bursaspor-Manchester United 3:30 p.m. Fox Sports Net, CSN Plus (tape at 6 on Fox Deportes, tape at 8 on Fox Soccer Channel)

Spurs-Inter Milan 3:30 p.m. FSC (tape at 6 on Fox Soccer Plus, tape at 8 on Fox Deportes)

Valencia-Rangers 3:30 p.m. Fox Soccer Plus
Copenhagen-Barcelona 3:30 p.m. DirecTV (482), Fox Deportes (tape at 6 on FSC, tape at 8:30 on FSP)

Benfica-Lyon 3:30 p.m. DirecTV (483)
Werder Bremen-Twente 3:30 p.m. DirecTV (484)
Hapoel Tel Aviv-Schalke 3:30 p.m. DirecTV (485)

*Online coverage: Foxsoccer.tv will carry seven matches live.

By Steve Goff  | November 2, 2010; 9:15 AM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad, CONCACAF, College Soccer, D.C. United, Euro Champions League, MLS, TV, Women  | Tags:  MLS, U.S. women's national team  
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Comments

Guess Will Chang really does win trophies.

Posted by: stwasm | November 2, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Werder Bremen-Twente

Wow, so who'd they beat?

Posted by: fallschurch1 | November 2, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Will Chang. Now bring some of that winning stuff over here.

Apparently the ladies have caught MNT disease. From the USSF site:
The Americans started poorly in attacking rhythm in the first two games of the tournament and this match was no exception.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 2, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Looks like WPS's Gold Pride is done, Freedom also likely done though maybe they drop to w-league.

Implications for WPS: 5 existing teams left. Chicago, Atlanta, Philly, NJ, Boston. Of those 5, at least two, Philly and Atlanta, can't draw flies. One has to wonder if the owners in those and possibly all remaining cities are thinking seriously aboout cutting their losses in the face of plowing more millions into teams and a league that simply has no market.

As for expansion WNY, I don't know why on earth they would want to go ahead with it, unless they just want to run a women's soccer club and are unconcerned about losses.

The only way WPS might work is scale it back to a geography where no teams have to fly or stay in hotels or anything like that. Or even use buses. Make the cities close enough so that players and coaches can carpool to away games and then drive back home after the game is over. Give the drivers a gas allowance, but that is it.

Even then, it probably wouldn't work in terms of being able to make money.

Posted by: Ron16 | November 2, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Looks like WPS's Gold Pride is done, Freedom also likely done though maybe they drop to w-league.

Implications for WPS: 5 existing teams left. Chicago, Atlanta, Philly, NJ, Boston. Of those 5, at least two, Philly and Atlanta, can't draw flies. One has to wonder if the owners in those and possibly all remaining cities are thinking seriously aboout cutting their losses in the face of plowing more millions into teams and a league that simply has no market.

As for expansion WNY, I don't know why on earth they would want to go ahead with it, unless they just want to run a women's soccer club and are unconcerned about losses.

The only way WPS might work is scale it back to a geography where no teams have to fly or stay in hotels or anything like that. Or even use buses. Make the cities close enough so that players and coaches can carpool to away games and then drive back home after the game is over. Give the drivers a gas allowance, but that is it.

Even then, it probably wouldn't work in terms of being able to make money.

Posted by: Ron16 | November 2, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Why on earth would you "invest" in the Freedom? That's just money down the drain. Usually, with investments, you expect a positive return.

The U-20 camp is just up the interstate from me...

Posted by: Reignking | November 2, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Congrats, Will. Big win for your Giants.

Posted by: Matte | November 2, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Random TV note for Comcast subscribers...

(At least in Montgomery County - ch. 856) You now get The Comcast Network in HD - which doubles as CSN+HD. Manchester United's match will be aired on this channel in HD today - and I think that Comcast Mid Atlantic will air most of their Champs League offerings on this channel.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 2, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Why on earth would you "invest" in the Freedom? That's just money down the drain. Usually, with investments, you expect a positive return.

====================

Same question applies to DC United.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 2, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

OWNTF- Loved your comment! Freedom is the winning soccer team in DC.Hope they make it ( We already bought season tickets)!!

Posted by: soccerhead | November 2, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

RK, they're hosting a 3-day tournament at KSU the 26-28. Friday is USA-Colombia, Saturday Mexico-Colombia, Sunday USA-Mexico, all games at 3:30. With MLS out of season our u-20s are expecting a full strength squad, with all on the roster being professional players. Can't wait. Our AO chapter will be there Sunday.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 2, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

OWNTF - you don't invest in a team, any MLS team, you invest in and become partners in SUM and by the terms and conditions of your investment you get to operate an MLS team in a certain market. The latter enables you to make more money off a stadium project, should you have one like most SUM/MLS investors, through such revenue streams as parking/concessions, ticket sales, local broadcast and some new media, retail or commercial development on the stadium site, other events (high school football, lacrosse, college soccer, concerts, Promise Keepers, high school graduations), etc.

Your bigger-picture return is from all the revenues generated by SUM, so, for example, Will gets a piece of all those Mexican national team games that SUM stages in front of usually over 70,000 people.

Posted by: lgm6986 | November 2, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

FWIW, I am not sure why you bother posting TV listings for a weekday at 9:15 AM on that date. Most folks have left for work by then, and it is too late to set the TIVO (or other brand names....)

I think you used to post them the day before, which was much more useful.

Posted by: DCUSince96 | November 2, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm telecommuting today, so the listings are useful to me, even though I can only watch Spurs-Inter. But I'm not sure that being the Soccer TV Guide is Steve's job. If you want to know whether or not to call in sick the day before CL games, go to http://www.livesoccertv.com/

Does anyone make money from sports teams? I've sunk over $100 into a U9 team with practice goals, gatorade, etc. and have yet to see a dime in return. Things will turn around if you MoCo residents go to the polls today and vote to build me a stadium.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 2, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

igm6986, good answer. Now I just hope Will can successfully use that logic to attract some new deep-pocketed co-owners. Or maybe his 29 other fellow Giants owners. They can win even more trophies here. We have a greater success ratio than the Giants.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 2, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

igm6986, good answer. Now I just hope Will can successfully use that logic to attract some new deep-pocketed co-owners. Or maybe his 29 other fellow Giants owners. They can win even more trophies here. We have a greater success ratio than the Giants.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 2, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

igm6986, good answer. Now I just hope Will can successfully use that logic to attract some new deep-pocketed co-owners. Or maybe his 29 other fellow Giants owners. They can win even more trophies here. We have a greater success ratio than the Giants.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 2, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I-270:

The only ones who makes money off sports teams at any level are the ones who control the ancillary revenue streams (mmostly parking and food/beverage). The model in all of sports, whether it's the NFL on the biggest scale or MLS on the smallest, is to own or have full and complete control of your stadium or ballpark. This is why DCU is caught between the Scylla and Charybdis. It has no control over the ancillary streams; all that money goes to the owner of the building, the District.

Other sports leagues, like the NFL, MLB, and NBA, have handsome broadcast packages and high demand for tickets (driving prices way up) and those revenues go a long way to covering the high salaries in those businesses, and the ancillary streams, which are immense in those businesses, are the gravy.

MLS, in spite of very modest (relatively) player salaries, depend more on the ancillary streams to produce positive investment results since their ticket demand and broadcast revenues are so minimal.

Posted by: lgm6986 | November 2, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

But lgm6986, don't get carried away by the SUM moneygusher logic -- it's happened on here before, and people start getting the impression that the MLS team may as well be a bunch of over-40s because "all the money to ownership comes from SUM."

P.S. people hitting "submit" 5 times here is getting as bad as people on metro sanding the readers with their smart cards.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | November 2, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I sense some people are being sarcastic on this blog and others are being serious. It is funny to read.

I would love to get Salgado but I am not convinced he will still be around in the third spot. If we aren't going to invest in big name players lets just get a bunch of young kids who want to play. I'll take Najar's energy and skill over an old semi-out of shape guy that used to be good.

Posted by: grubbsbl | November 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey fallschurch1..relax.

I got a bad server response message, so hit a refresh, got it again and gave up.

Sorry to have ruined your morning.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 2, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Ruined my whole damn week actually.

Ha, I almost just did it myself -- it told me I got timed out.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | November 2, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

lgm6986,

Loved your answer but in all honesty in DC's situation it comes right back to OWNTF and Reignking being correct. Why invest in DCU if the local officials don't appear to give a damn about them. With no legitimate stadium prospects in the DC area nobody will invest in the team as they expect a return on their investment.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | November 2, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Dang. I was all set to invest in mortgage-backed securities, but now it seems like MLS is the smart play . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | November 2, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

You know what's weird about these comments? I can click "submit," and while the page is loading, I can open the thread in a new tab and see my comment. It's like time travel.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 2, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I was shocked - SHOCKED - to learn that Will Chang was not in DC yesterday for the announcment of Andy Najar as Club MVP.

Posted by: BaltoFan | November 2, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I was shocked - SHOCKED - to learn that Will Chang was not in DC yesterday for the announcment of Andy Najar as Club MVP.

Posted by: BaltoFan | November 2, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

DCUSince96: Its useful when you can set your DVR thru the web as you can with some providers. Directv has that feature, and it is great. There is also the option of emailing the edict home to one's wife to program said DVR when dtv website is blocked by office firewall. Of course with the latter option one runs the risk of "accidentally" ending up with a recording of 3 hours of "Project Runway" or some such thing instead of the game.

Posted by: Ron16 | November 2, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I-270: Excellent. Can you read any comments about the final score of the Rubin Kazan match yet?

Posted by: fallschurch1 | November 2, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Someday, I'm going to write something that's worth triple-posting...but, 'til then:

I know it's early to talk about this, but with the draft in Baltimore (future home of the team), we need to get a strong showing there. For once, the team has almost a full complement of draft picks. Hopefully, they won't pick guys on their way to Europe this time.

Posted by: fischy | November 2, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

People should not assume that the Women are a lock for the World Cup. This MArch, the Women's U-17 squad scored 32 goals without giving up a goal in the qualifying round. They then played Canada (who had finished behind Mexico in their group) in the semis, with the semifinal winners going to the U-17 World Cup! A lock for the US, right? Unfortunately not. Canada played very defensively and after a 0-0 scoreline through OT, the Canadians won 5-3 in PKs. The US Women's U-17 team, which would probably have been the favorites in the tournament, are not even going to the World Cup because they failed to score 1 goal in 1 game! Never assume anything. I still feel bad for those girls.

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | November 2, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Fischy,

Hopefully, Baltimore won't be the host city either by then.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | November 2, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I still feel bad for those girls.
Posted by: Dougmacintyre
============

By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, they shall be avenged!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 2, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Fischy,

Hopefully, Baltimore won't be the MLS franchise holding host either by then.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | November 2, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

There is something going on with the WP server. It's not the users; it times out but the poster can't see the message that timed out even though it's there.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | November 2, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Baltimore and the Maryland Stadium Authority are ready to invest in SUM/MLS and operate a medium-sized event-specific stadium (no such thing as soccer specific stadia).

In consideration of a certain existing MLS team with a strong following in the mid-Atlantic region relocating to said stadium, the aforementioned governmental jurisdictions will enable the investor-operator of said MLS team to control certain key ancilary revenue sources (parking and concessions) and will confer certain potentially lucrative options to develop land around said event-specific stadium upon the investor-operator.

Baltimore United: Unleash the Balmer.

Posted by: lgm6986 | November 2, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

@Dougmacintyre,

I've always thought it's asinine for the CONCACAF qualifying tournaments to make the semifinals the match that matters.

Posted by: benonthehill | November 2, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Check out Averbuch's golazo (at about the 1:30 mak):

http://www.ussoccer.com/Multimedia/Media-Center.aspx#/video

Posted by: universityandpark | November 2, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

@ soccerhead - hope you got a money back guarantee.

And while I hate the idea of “Baltimore United” – I really like the idea of having “Fear the Crabs” as a team slogan!

Posted by: soccerman | November 2, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Make that "mark", not "mak".

Posted by: universityandpark | November 2, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The US Women's U-17 team, which would probably have been the favorites in the tournament, are not even going to the World Cup because they failed to score 1 goal in 1 game!

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | November 2, 2010 1:36 PM
__________________________________________

Good point. However, a few clarifications are in order:

1. Your wording makes it sound as if the tournament is still in the future. In fact, it was held in September; South Korea was the chamption.

2. That was a special case, in that T&T hosted, and thus CONCACAF only got two competitively awarded slots. At least in the current case, the third-place finisher goes to a play-in against Italy, UEFA's fifth-place side. (Personally, I think CONCACAF should get three berths outright. Why Oceania (in other words, New Zealand) should get one of 16 slots without even a play-in against an Asian side is beyond me.)

3. Even under these circumstances, the real crime was setting up the bracket so that the USA and Canada met in the semis. (In T&T, Mexico proved its worthiness by losing to Germany in its first match, 9-nil.)

Posted by: universityandpark | November 2, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

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