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Tuesday kickaround: Bill Clinton and FIFA, USA under-20 squad, MLS weather, Americans abroad, TV listings

By Steve Goff

*Does Bill Clinton still have his diplomatic magic? We'll find out in three weeks when the former president speaks on behalf of the U.S. World Cup bid effort in Zurich the day before FIFA chooses the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosts. Clinton, who attended U.S. matches in South Africa, is the group's honorary chairman. The United States is competing with Japan, South Korea, Australia and Qatar for the '22 tournament.

Meantime, reports suggest that England, the longtime favorite to secure the 2018 hosting rights, has slipped behind Russia and Spain/Portugal. Apparently, FIFA backlash against English media investigations concerning corruption in the governing body, and the appeal of venturing to Russia, are taking a toll on the once-ironclad England bid.

*Thomas Rongen's U.S. under-20 squad for matches against Colombia and Mexico in Georgia includes players from clubs in MLS, USL, England, Germany, Portugal, Mexico, Croatia and Israel.

*With a conference final set for Denver and MLS Cup in Toronto, weather could play a factor in these important matches. At the moment, forecasts call for cold but no snow:

The outlook for the Colorado Rapids-San Jose Earthquakes affair Saturday night: clear and an above-average low of 30 degrees after reaching 47 during the day. For MLS Cup on Nov. 21: It's still too far off for a pinpoint forecast, but when teams arrive in Canada, temperatures will range from 35 to 42 with a slight chance of precipitation.

For Americans abroad and TV listings.....

*Americans abroad:
Yesterday
GK Luis Robles 90 in Karlsruhe's 0-0 draw at Osnabrueck
Today
F Conor Doyle and Derby at Ipswich
D Frank Simek, F Mike Grella for Carlisle vs. Crewe

*Soccer on TV:
England, Birmingham-Stoke 2:30 p.m. ESPN Deportes
England, Spurs-Sunderland 3 p.m. Fox Soccer Channel

By Steve Goff  | November 9, 2010; 9:28 AM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad, England, FIFA, MLS, TV, USA World Cup bid, USSF  | Tags:  MLS, World Cup  
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Comments

So, does that mean we should have stayed in with our 2018 bid instead of dropping out? Is England in the running for 2022 if they get beat out for 2018?

Go cRapids, Go Burn!

Posted by: dcufan | November 9, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

"clear and an above-average low of 30 degrees after reaching 47 during the day"

Yes, but it's a dry cold.

Posted by: delantero | November 9, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

dcufan,

Per Steve the answer to your question is no.

"The United States is competing with Japan, South Korea, Australia and Qatar for the '22 tournament."

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | November 9, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

re: "The outlook for the Colorado Rapids-San Jose Earthquakes affair Saturday night: clear ... "

Yes, we know what thge occupancy rate of the seats in DSGP, but what will the sky be like?

Posted by: Ron16 | November 9, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

@delantero: chuckled at that. Then I remembered my first winter here after moving from Utah. I actually much prefer the dry cold of the West over the damp, penetrating cold of the East.

dcufan, the other part of the answer to your question is that England withdrew from the 2022 competition and the 2018 and 2022 decisions are being announced at the same time, so there's no way that can join in the 2022 competition...oh, wait. This is FIFA. Maybe they can bribe their way in.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

FIFA has essentially committed to having the 2018 World Cup in Europe, which means they will not give the 2022 World Cup to Europe since their aim is to spread it around. there haven't been back-to-back World Cups in Europe since 1954/58 and i think they are trying to limit it to roughly every 3rd WC. so i wouldn't expect another WC in Europe until 2030 with 2026 possibly going to whoever doesn't get 2022 out of the USA/Australia. although maybe Qatar can throw enough money at them to pique their interest. they certainly have an interesting stadium plan.

http://www.qatar2022bid.com/stadiums

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November 9, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Spain/Portugal would be great. The European Cup in Portugal was brilliant; add Spain to the mix and what a great trip that'd be. Plus, England would be sure not to win the Cup.

May not be a sold out stadium in Colorado, but wonder how that compares to the number of folks who will be at RFK for the other semi-final.. oh ... wait....

Posted by: hacksaw | November 9, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Russia would be perfect for FIFA. Corruption is expected, even valued, and if you don't like the press coverage, you just kill the reporters.

Posted by: OWNTF | November 9, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

well played, Ron16.
-sad, but happy Rapids Fan.

Posted by: patjshaz | November 9, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure many of us got Bill Clinton's e-mail this morning, urging us to donate to Go USA Bid. Five percent of your donation is for administrative payments, the other 95% is for payment to administrators.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 9, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

hacksaw, there is no semi at RFK this sat., but the number of people in the stands to watch the dried leaves blow around the empty pitch at RFK will be roughly equal to the number of people in the stands at DSGP for the MLS game.

Seriously, it would probably be good if the Rapids win the semi as well as the Cup. Maybe then people will start going to COL home games.

Posted by: Ron16 | November 9, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

they certainly have an interesting stadium plan.

http://www.qatar2022bid.com/stadiums

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | November

Man, that's wild....those guys with all of that Oil money are a trip.I'd take any of those used top tiers to stick out here in Fauquier for D.C. to use.

Posted by: Smitty68 | November 9, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I particularly like the stadiums surrounded by water. 40,000 fans waiting for water taxis.

And the picture of the Al-Kohr stadium is almost NSFW.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 9, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

FIFA is concerned about possible corruption, so Russia's bid has moved ahead of England's? Are we in the Bizarro World?

I didn't get to Spain for the '82 Cup, but it looked like a heckuva party on TV -- got me to go to the next one in Mexico, and the one after that, etc. No doubt, Spain and Portugal could use an economic boost, but I'm guessing FIFA won't decide to come back there so soon, when there are other possibilities. It really should be England, but if England doesn't win, that probably bodes well for the USA and Australia getting the '22 and'26 tournaments.

Posted by: fischy | November 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

@Smitty68: Qatar has gas money, not oil money. It is a more diversified economy than Saudi Arabia but not one prone to real estate excesss like Dubai. Looks like a well run place.

Posted by: sofiaboy | November 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Here's an interesting tidbit from Wikipedia that severely limits Qatar's chances of hosting a World Cup.

"Under Qatar's Sharia, it is illegal to show alcohol or be drunk in public."

What's the World Cup without public displays of drunkenness, especially when one is drunk off a sponsor's product?

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"FIFA is concerned about possible corruption, so Russia's bid has moved ahead of England's? Are we in the Bizarro World?"

FIFA is not concerned about the corruption; rather, FIFA is mad at the English press because the press has the nerve to criticize FIFA -- I think that's what Goff is saying. So naturally FIFA punishes England. Sad, if that's what's going on.

Posted by: fallschurch1 | November 9, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, it would probably be good if the Rapids win the semi as well as the Cup. Maybe then people will start going to COL home games
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Couldnt agree more. And it'd force the world's lousy-est newspaper - the Denver Post - to actually cover the team in depth on a regular basis. DC fans don't know how great they have it to have a national newspaper that is evolved enough to give soccer serious coverage. Out here we have Woody Paige.

Posted by: hacksaw | November 9, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Because it's a slow day, I went to Soccernet. Oh, who am I kidding, I go there on a busy day. Anyway....

"Joey Barton believes Newcastle team-mate Andy Carroll should be in the England squad and has told Fabio Capello to stop trying to pick "goody two-shoes" players."

Seriously? If you're Andy Carroll, on bail after being charged with assault, the last person you want as your advocate is a convicted felon.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | November 9, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

@fallschurch -- I did misread what Goff wrote -- I read an "and" that wasn't there.

On other matters -- I hope there will be some coverage of the U20 tourney. I'd love to get a look at some of these players...especially Orozco, Molano, Lletget, Zahavi and MLS prospects Shanofsky, Veeder and Salgado .

Posted by: fischy | November 9, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Fischy I'll try to hook you up. I'll be at the Mexico game for sure, and maybe the one against Colombia.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | November 9, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Denver area sports fan after the Rapids win MLS Cup: "Hey, we won something! Wait, it wasn't the Broncos? Oh. Hey, how're the Avs and Nuggets doing?"

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 9, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

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