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Posted at 9:49 PM ET, 01/21/2011

Video: American forward Edson Buddle scores goal for Ingolstadt in his German debut

By Steve Goff

In his first appearance for Ingolstadt, a German second-tier club, American World Cup forward Edson Buddle scored on a six-yard volley in the 76th minute during a 1-1 home draw with Duisburg. The former Los Angeles Galaxy scoring ace started and played 88 minutes:


FC Ingolstadt - MSV Duisburg , 1-0 goal Buddle

By Steve Goff  | January 21, 2011; 9:49 PM ET
Categories:  Americans Abroad, Germany  | Tags:  Edson Buddle  
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Ingolstadt has the right colors, but the fans at RFK wave better flags. (hats off, fellas.)

Posted by: hungrypug | January 21, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the average attendance is spot on as well.

Posted by: PEddy | January 21, 2011 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I think I'd rather play for a packed house of adoring fans in LA than in an empty stadium in Germany, even if the pay was worse.

Posted by: BooThisMan | January 21, 2011 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Clinical finish from Edson... Findley would have found a way to miss that.

Maybe it's been reported, but I feel like there's more to this signing than we know... like there has to be a clause or agreement that moves him up to the first division next season. Right now, first division team/s have an eye on him and have promised a signing for next season based on his performance?

BooThisMan... there may be a NEARLY packed house in LA for each home game, but that attendance looks pretty similar to half of MLS clubs attendance. Not a loss for him, because ANY/EVERY MLS team would be banging down his door should a year in Germany not work out.

Posted by: BigTex4 | January 21, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

bradleys biggest blunder in the world cup was not using buddle. findley is awful and should have never have ever been in that lineup ahead of buddle.

Posted by: castroviejo | January 22, 2011 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if any MLS teams will ever make a play for the experienced goalkeeper, David Yelldell, who has an American passport, and has played regularly in Bundesliga 2. As long as he didn't mind a pay cut...

Posted by: bartapest1 | January 22, 2011 5:12 AM | Report abuse

Average home attendance for Ingolstadt is about 7,000 this season, compared to a Bundesliga 2 average of about 13,500. And to think, Ingolstadt could pay more for Buddle than that team in Los Angeles was prepared to do!

Posted by: bartapest1 | January 22, 2011 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Somewhere, Alexi Lalas is watching this Wolves-Liverpool game thinking, "See, I was right." Terrible passing.

That Ingolstadt stadium has a capacity a little over 15,000, and just opened last year.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | January 22, 2011 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Edson Buddle:

Another player deemed undesired by DCU...

Posted by: lgm6986 | January 22, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Mereles with a helluva strike for Liverpool.

@castroviejo, a larger error may have been leaving Ching off the team altogether.

Posted by: OWNTF | January 22, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Ok lgm, I'll bite. When did DCU pass on Buddle?

Posted by: spidergoose | January 22, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Black and red shirts with a VW company on them?

Posted by: sitruc | January 22, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Bradley's biggest blunder at the World Cup was starting Ricardo Clark, his second biggest blunder was starting Findley 3 times.

Not playing Buddle (as we had other options for forward like playing Dempsey up top and putting Holden in midfield) was blunder 4 or 5.

In my humble opinion.

Nice goal though. Right place, right time.

Posted by: delantero | January 22, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Spector scores again, on our Tim Howard.

Surely he'll get a call in for the Egypt game at this rate, but where will he be listed?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | January 22, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Still do not understand why Buddle didn't get the chance in South Africa w/USMNT; all he does is score goals & he is always dangerous!
DCU passed on signing Edson??? YIKES....

Posted by: Zipfutbol | January 22, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

i dont think it needs to ranked, but not recognizing buddle as the most in-form, likely-to-score forward was just one of the several blunders that should have cost BB his job...

Posted by: rainORshine | January 22, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Spider goose:

After the 2000 season, the first non-play-off season ever for DCU, they went to El Salvador for a Raul Diaz Arce-trimphant tour to San Miguel, his hometown. It was also a chance for KP to do his Jimmy Carter imitation and build some homes for the impoverished of the community. KP was still smarting from the pasting he took from the local DC Salvadorean community in 1998 when he traded Raul, so he continued to pander to that market and this trip was part of that effort.

Anyway, Edson Buddle joined the team on trial, but the Great Rongini decided not to invite him to the 2001 training camp.

Also on trial on that trip - and passed on by TR, was a midfielder named Dwayne DeRosorio.

That's right - TR passed on two of the best players in MLS history.

Posted by: lgm6986 | January 22, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I thought Bradley's biggest blunder was losing Rossi to Italy. Or was losing Subotic to Serbia, or was it not traveling back in time and kidnapping baby Messi and bringing him to the US?

Oh. I'm wrong. Scoring a goal in the Bundesliga2 is the gold standard of a scorer.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | January 22, 2011 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Exceptionally put, 270! I could never had said it any better.

Hating Bradley on the interwebs is the "in" thing to do these days - akin to some ugly fashion accessory that the masses overspend for but don't know why. One of those "well Shashey has one too" type deals.

As tiring as the endless hate gets, it could be somewhat ignored as nothing more than the petty nonsense that it always is. However, what gets one to even consider commenting in response to such drivel, is when the hate is spouted out whenever and where ever, without the strain of effort to even bother using the brain. "Reason?" Nah, the words come out just because an apples-to-oranges scenario has presented itself.

"We don't need no stinkin' reason!"

Posted by: Kosh2 | January 22, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Buddle leaving means MLS now only has 2/23 USMNT WC players. So everything's on Beckham, Henry and Donovan? Well, I guess that'll work-out if none of them get injured...17 goals and he can't be made a DP by anyteam.

$2.2M Donovan + $5.78M Beckham + $? Generation Adidas + $? Allocation for Mathis + $2.67M salary-cap = atleast $10.65M. NYRB is probably at a similar level so why not set the Cap at $10M-$15M and let unspent money roll-over to the next season?

Maybe get rid of the automatic league-wide $2.67M and give bigger bags of money to perenial non-play-off teams to encourage competivness without destroying the good teams. I could run MLS better by accident. It's not that hard.

Posted by: akin365 | January 22, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, when did this thread become "Buddle scored a goal, DAMN YOU BOB BRADLEY, damn you to helllllll....?"

Posted by: elfelixg | January 22, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh. I'm wrong. Scoring a goal in the Bundesliga2 is the gold standard of a scorer.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | January 22, 2011 1:15 PM

Lucas Podolski should play for Leeds and Mesut Ozil should play for The Carolina Railhawks that would be the best thing for German soccer...The problem is that MLS can't be bothered to pay USMNT pool members enough to prevent them from going to 2nd divisions, the Mexican League (Bornstein) or Scandanavia (long list)...And please don't say they can't afford it because Angel was just made a DP after Buddle left.

Posted by: akin365 | January 22, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The American youth development system has facets that could be adapted into their European models. You can see this and more including how Omar Cummings fared during his European experience at:

http://upper90magazine.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/omar-cummings-and-the-american-way/#more-943

Posted by: nicpatmore23 | January 22, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Settle down, boys.


It's arguable if Buddle was the most in form striker on the US squad .. . my nod would have been to Gomez for his Golden Boot Race in the Mexican league (despite not starting, as far as I know, ever).

So, per goal scored/minutes played . . yeah, Gomez wins it.

Posted by: delantero | January 22, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

My mom could have scored that goal.

Posted by: 9Nine9 | January 22, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Buddle and Donovan had a great thing going with the Galaxy and Bradley never paired them at the WC. There's a lot to be said for maintaining the chemistry that has developed over time at the club level. No USMNT training camp is long enough to develop altogether new pairings that function as effortlessly as club pairings do.

Posted by: b18bolo | January 22, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

'Oh. I'm wrong. Scoring a goal in the Bundesliga2 is the gold standard of a scorer.'
--

'Exceptionally put, 270! I could never had said it any better...'
--

pretty strong argument.

however, some coaches find that they get better production out of forwards who are actually playing and producing for club (buddle) than those who have barely seen any minutes, let alone score goals (altidore).

sometimes it is hard to distinguish honest critique for 'mindless hating'...

however, i never seem to see any thoughtful insight as to why BBs decisions earned him another go-round. the comments above are typical of his supporters and paint the picture of BB being beyond reproach. surely you can understand how this seems rather thoughtless...

not sure why people so many are opposed to either ignore or engage in a honest dialogue.

but im sure you are right...

Posted by: rainORshine | January 22, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

@ rainORshine -

Nice. I see what you're doing there.

Love 'em or hate 'em BB won his group, and would have done so even more easily if that ref didn't screw us over in the Slovenia game (which would have allowed us to rest some guys for game 3 and be charged for the Ghana game). Ghana game emotions aside, winning a WC group has to count for something. Maybe that factored into the rehire? Who knows?

As far as the forward selection goes. BB went with a tactic that worked magically with Davies in the CC - absorb pressure and counter with speed. Until the CC CD9 wasn't the superstar that we all hold him to be now. BB came up with the strategy and used the tools at his disposal and achieved some of the best results of any American coach in that CC. So CD9 went down and BB tried to emulate the effort with Findley and tactically it did stretch defenses, however Findley could not finish - which I am quite sure is BB's fault too.

As for your Altidore v. Buddle point see my paragraph above about the tactic that BB was going for. Can one fault BB for sticking religiously to the "absorb and counter" mantra that had him picking Altidore over Buddle? Sure. (you see us BB apologists recognize this too - shocking ain't it?). But this was the WC and it was high pressure business in a short amount of time so I can see how a BB or any coach can tend to stick to what they know or consider safe. Popular web punditry aside - we are not a top side team that can make a sub and all of a sudden attack in a whole different way.

Here's the thing that is being missed. BB can learn and we are seeing evidence of it in his second go around. Unlike Bruce who brought us more of the same in round 2. BB is raking the Earth to check all who can play for us. I bet you he is looking to change the way we play and is actively looking for the players to help him achieve this. But that's just me though, another apologist who reacts to ungrounded BB bashing in true Pavlovian response.

I was gutted by the loss to Ghana and in the heat of things though BB should go, but what were the options? I know, I know there is Klinsey and the sexiness that comes with the name. Not saying he could not have done the job, as his stint with Germany proved. But for whatever reason he was not chosen - again. Which made BB our guy - again. Is he perfect? No. Did he make mistakes? Yup. But is he demonstrating some pattern that he has learned from his mistakes? In my pinko-BB-apologist mind, I'd say, yes. With these new players to augment the established guys, BB will find the guys who can help him adjust somewhat better to his opposition. With that said, we still are not Spain or Brazil and probably won't be that even if we gave BB five cycles.

So there you have it, some attempt at honest dialogue - your condescending, well placed insults notwithstanding.

For the record I never claimed to be right, I just held the extra sauce because the prompting bashing never merited the extra keystrokes.

Posted by: Kosh2 | January 22, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Look through the windshield, not in the rear-view mirror.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | January 22, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

No comments on the beautiful goal for Dempsey yet...and a PK.

The two goals put Dempsey 3 goals away from tying McBride for the single season scoring record for an American in the Premier League. Also moves Dempsey into the top 15 overall goal scorers in the Premier League this season.

Posted by: Southeasterner | January 22, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

What Kosh2 said. Many other squads in the World Cup - squads with much more talent - we crushed under the weight of their egos. Bradley built a team. A team that believed in each other and in him. A team that did not let mistakes demoralize them and turn them against each other. And he did this in much less time than all those other coaches who write leadership books.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | January 22, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Haven't seen video of those yet. Or of Spector's.

I have seen the five missing the cut tonight, I missed 2. Cervi, Pickens, Miller, Cronin, and Starikov.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | January 22, 2011 7:45 PM | Report abuse

'Look through the windshield, not in the rear-view mirror.'
- this comment assumes all eyes are open, which i find to be a questionable assumption...

kosh2 - wasnt looking to get into a whole 'thing, but, while i find the logic of almost every point you make wildly aberrant, i appreciate the civil tone. i did feel you were due a little derision after what i felt was less than respectful commentary.

sorry, but as long as BB is at the helm, this dialogue will not go away. even if he manages to guide the team to elusive and prestigious accomplishments such as gold cup victory and WC qualification. virtually everything BB has accomplished has been old hat since the early 90s. BB and US soccer administration have refused to raise the bar, despite what i feel is an archaic and objectively false notion that 'we are not a top side team', that our players are not good enough to expect results that are better than previous teams. more than ever, along with players dominating domestically and in 2nd tier leauges, we have players contributing in the best leagues in the world. spain and germany we are not. holland, brazil, argentina? no. everyone else?

the personnel/tactical decisions that so many questioned during the WC represent a small sample of the questionable choices made over the last several years. all the evidence, including performances since the WC, only serve to strengthen the opinion that BB generally does not make great choices.

for example, the starters myself and others thought were poor choices at WC -
- onyewu
- demerit
- clark
- findley
- altidore
- torres
- gomez
- bornstein

those who myself and others thought were more deserving based on their experience and form:
- goodson
- spector
- edu
- holden
- buddle

maybe BB was right that spector was not a good option to start on back line. maybe not.

the other omissions were highly questionable then and even more so now. each one can be legitimately argued individually. collectively i think it there is little room to argue that his instincts to manage at the WC are strong.

the pattern is clear. BB will indeed recognize the changes that need to be made - long after they need to be made. good club coach. massively undeserving of a chance to redeem himself with US.

this group had a gift wrapped opportunity to do something truly special. a mediocre group became winnable when england proved to be an average side. the path to WC semifinal included a essian-less, rather uninspiring ghana side and what would have been even money match v uraguay with ticket to semis up for grabs. that scenario just does not present itself every four years.

was simply never going to happen with BB calling the shots. look forward, not back? right. just trust BB is now the best guy to take us to next level? thanks, but no.

respect.
vamos united!

Posted by: rainORshine | January 22, 2011 8:14 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth, Sean Johnson wearing #1, Rimando #18

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | January 22, 2011 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Starting XI, again I missed two.

---------------Rimando-----------------

Franklin---Ream-----Gonzalez------Loyd

---------Larentowicz--McCarty (C)------

Bedoya----------Mix--------------Shea

-------------Wondolowski---------------

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | January 22, 2011 9:02 PM | Report abuse

those who myself and others thought were more deserving based on their experience and form:
- goodson
- spector
- edu
- holden
- buddle


Let's see, I really, really have to call you out for the presumption that these players deserved a start . . .

Goodson . . 2nd tier league, didn't play a wink in Qualifiers,

Spector, having a HORRIBLE season with West Ham prior to WC I believe he was benched.

Edu and Holden were both injured and didn't play much in their spring campaign, and really not much at all in the Qualifiers or the CC tourney (broken leg for Bolton, played 1, maybe 2 games before the end of the English season)

Buddle, who, until his goal scoring onslaught in the Spring of 2010, only scored 5 goals in all of 2009, and is hardly what I'd call "experienced" in International Play


So, the more you analyze, the bigger holes open up. The most experienced player was Spector and he was crapping the bed in England. The others are talented, but extremely inexperienced even if they were playing.

Posted by: delantero | January 22, 2011 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Findley was a good start against England. He gave their old slow defense concern with his speed and almost broke through on speed alone. he probably should have sat after that first game. I agree that bradley needed to give it a shot with the speed option at WC. You need that type of threat on the biggest stage. We can play what if game with Davies and how team would have done... (add healthy Gooch while we are at it). We can fault Bradley for team digging holes, but we have to give him credit for them climbing out. Outside of clark for edu, I think bradley's decision making was very good. Granted, that was a big one...

Did DCU really pass on derosario? Wow, I can understand huddle may have been medic ore 10 years ago, but derosario sure would have been nice to have...

Posted by: dcalize | January 23, 2011 2:09 AM | Report abuse

DCALIZE:

Yes, DCU really did pass on Dwayne. TR didn't want him and KP was more out of the picture at that time. You may recall that KP was the Czar of AEG soccer. holding the top management position in the company and charged with overseeing all soccer operations for AEG's 7 MLS teams.

Also at this time, MLS was looking to change its business model, having concluded in the aftermath of Garber's hiring in 1999 that the launch model needed changes. Conversations began in early 2001 that resulted in Tampa Bay and Miami being eliminated after the season.

KP spent most of his time in January 2001 writing a proposal for Phil that was the genesis for SUM. This was at the time that DCU was in Fullerton getting ready to play in CONCACAF.

In January of 2001, KP's focus was as far away from DCU as it has ever been, and TR had more sway on player decisions. Thus, TR brought in Greg Simmonds, an A-League prospect, over Buddle or DeRosario and continued the first era of DCU ruin.

As for Dwayne, shortly after DCU told him he wasn't in their plans, Frank Yallop, the DCU assistant in 2000 who was on that El Salvador trip in which Dwayne was on trial and named head coach of San Jose in early 2001, made getting Dwayne one of his fist orders of business. The rest would be MLS history.

Posted by: lgm6986 | January 23, 2011 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Bob Bradley isn't an international-caliber manager. He knows it, he has no faith in his own ability to judge talent so he only will believe that a player is good if an overseas club tells him the player is good. Either that or he has absolutely no ability to judge talent at all.

Bradley has made so many blunders that not playing Buddle more at the world cup is just one of ever so many.

He'd never give Holden a big role on the team were it not for Bolton.

Posted by: fed-up-united | January 24, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

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