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Posted at 5:35 PM ET, 02/23/2011

College football game scheduled at RFK Stadium during the MLS season

By Steve Goff

The Washington Convention and Sports Authority has scheduled a Howard University football game at RFK Stadium in September, an event that could impact the quality of the playing surface during D.C. United's season.

United is scheduled to play Chivas USA on Sept. 21, 11 days after the football game between the Bison and Morehouse College. The MLS club has three additional regular season matches in September and October.

The WCSA will also stage football games at RFK in early September in 2012 and '13.

"The state of the playing surface is a concern of ours. The field has had difficulty recovering from [the Military Bowl in December] the last couple of years," United spokesman Doug Hicks said. "It's being addressed this spring with a new field, but we're eager to engage in discussions about the recovery effort this fall."

For additional details.....

This winter, as MLS was preparing the 2011 schedule, United was given a list of blackout dates by stadium officials, a common notification. However, United, RFK's only full-time tenant, was not told that a football game would be played on the September date, Hicks said. Football games typically do damage to fields used for soccer and, from an aesthetic point of view, often leave behind yard marks and logos.

Howard usually plays home football games at Greene Stadium on the Georgia Avenue campus. On Wednesday, the WCSA announced the creation of The Nation's Football Classic, featuring teams from historically black colleges and universities.

"Adding economic impact events such as this only enhances our city's vitality as a sports market," Washington Mayor Vincent C. Gray said.

United President Kevin Payne said he hopes to meet with stadium officials next week. The biggest concern, Payne said, are the sideline areas where football players gather. A football field is at least 17 yards narrower than a soccer field, placing players not involved in the action on the flanks of the soccer surface.

More later.....

By Steve Goff  | February 23, 2011; 5:35 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  | Tags:  D.C. United, RFK Stadium  
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Comments

How can RFK, the stadium, schedule a football match?

"Adding economic impact events such as this only enhances our city's vitality as a sports market,"

Lol to both!

Posted by: redskinsux | February 23, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Both schools have a lot of students and alum in this area. It could be a good sell if marketed right. What's this about a new field this Spring?

Posted by: sitruc | February 23, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

The United need to stop whining, either be happy that the city provides them with a perfectly fine stadium to host their games or finally build their own stadium.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | February 23, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

United, RFK's only full-time tenant, was not told that a football game would be played on the September date,
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?? I recall discussion of this game on SI months ago, I can't believe DCU didn't know this. Or are they pissed because they read it in the papers and "weren't told." Which I could understand, but this didn't sneak up on anyone.

Posted by: OWNTF | February 23, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear DC United,

Hurry up and pack.

Very sincerely,
The WCSA

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | February 23, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

This sucks, but hey, it's not our house.

Posted by: Pete803 | February 23, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

The field has been getting progressively worse each season since 2007. Now it's going to suck after a late season football game. Mr. Gray needs to wake up and recognize the income the soccer team brings to this city over the course of a season and not focus on one football game. More importantly, Mr. Gray’s statement makes me think he recognizes the need to build a SSS! "Adding economic impact events such as this only enhances our city's vitality as a sports market,"

Posted by: DCU99fan | February 23, 2011 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Any chance of United getting/buying Empire Fields after the Whitecaps are done with it and reassembling it in the DC area?

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | February 23, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

BOOOO!

Posted by: nairbsod | February 23, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

A new grass field is nothing to sgoff at.

Posted by: OWNTF | February 23, 2011 6:23 PM | Report abuse

A September college football game at RFK has been planned for some time now.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/nation039s-football-classic-coming-rfk-2011

The date change from Labor Day weekend to the 21st may be the only change here.

Posted by: Pedalada | February 23, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

It's my recollect that last year the WCSA said they were going to work with DCU on a new stadium. Now, I think they are trying to tell us something else.

Posted by: edmundburke247 | February 23, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me Mr. Mayor, if you want to bring add economic impact and increase the city's vitality as a sports market then assist DCU with building a stadium.

Posted by: no_recess | February 23, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

correction: the date change from Labor Day weekend to the 10th (not the 21st) may be the only change...

Posted by: Pedalada | February 23, 2011 6:34 PM | Report abuse

The United blah, blah, blah...

Posted by: PowerBoater69
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Welcome back, troll.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | February 23, 2011 6:35 PM | Report abuse

A new grass field is nothing to sgoff at.

Posted by: OWNTF | February 23, 2011 6:23 PM

Nice one, OWNTF! I bet you've had that one in your back pocket for a while, just waiting for the right opportunity. It works for almost every thread. Fun! But I guess if you don't like the coverage on this blog, you could sgoff@ washingtonpost.com

Posted by: WorldCup | February 23, 2011 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Just had a Rodney Dangerfield moment when I saw this...

"I get NO respect"

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | February 23, 2011 7:00 PM | Report abuse

In these times w/ everyone getting laid off from gov jobs or taking cuts. You need to get some of those hedge fund guys to build you a stadium. Or maybe that can't make $$ from it. Get your own SSS

Posted by: jspech | February 23, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to like the sound of Raleigh United.

The city of DC is too backwards, corrupt, and broken to successfully work out a stadium deal.

To the trolls calling for United to pony up all the money, show me ONE modern American stadium over 20k seats that didn't have ANY sort of public investment/bonds/tax easements etc. Pardon me if I don't hold my breath awaiting your response.

Posted by: alecw81 | February 23, 2011 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Well this clearly shows how DC feels about United...damn DC has become irrelevant to the city! But its funny DC has brought more silverware(old dcu) more then the "precious" redskins!! But hey its not the city's fault dc doesn't have a SSS its the FO(KP) fault!

Posted by: rigs88 | February 23, 2011 8:05 PM | Report abuse

well, as the only tenant with just 20 dates or so a year in the stadium it's logical and reasonable for the city to look for other ways to use the place so it can pay its bills.

sure it sucks to have the field wrecked but it's been a wreck for years now so it's hard to imagine it being too much worse for this one football game unless it happens to be a rainy day or something like that. remember to old days when we had to share with the NFL team...and worse yet the baseball team?

Posted by: fedssocr | February 23, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Off topic: Shalrie Joseph was arrested in Orlando Monday for trespassing, according to public record search, reported by Kyle McCarthy.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | February 23, 2011 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't really matter. DC United hasn't played a meaningful match after 1 September in many, many years.

Posted by: Hoost | February 23, 2011 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the city sell RFK to Will Chang?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 23, 2011 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's a drag, but team-owned soccer specific stadiums are often put to other users as the teams try to maximize the return on their investment

Posted by: DCUSince96 | February 23, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

any way to back the throwballers off the sideline? Soccer teams play in stadiums with tracks and often have to back da f@ck up right?

Posted by: DadRyan | February 23, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the city sell RFK to Will Chang?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 23, 2011 8:32 PM

Thor, you shouldn't troll where you eat. or however that phrase should be applied.

anyone else fear for the day when the WCSA figures out they can save money/host more events if they install fieldturf?

Posted by: VTUnited | February 23, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

23 days until United's first 2011 league match!

Posted by: Curious99 | February 23, 2011 8:55 PM | Report abuse

This sucks, but hey, it's not our house.

Posted by: Pete803 | February 23, 2011 6:06 PM
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Not according to the magnet still stuck to my cabinet at work.

Posted by: DCB23 | February 23, 2011 9:13 PM | Report abuse

"show me ONE modern American stadium over 20k seats that didn't have ANY sort of public investment/bonds/tax easements etc."

Tax easements are fine, local governments routinely provide tax breaks to lure large companies to move in, infrastructure upgrades are fine as well. But local governments should not be spending money to build stadiums and ballparks, Pollin and Cooke showed that owners can pay for their own buildings and still reap huge profits. If this model does not work for soccer, than maybe it should go the way of horse racing.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | February 23, 2011 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least its a meaningful game between schools that are consistently competitive and matter.

Wait a minute...

Posted by: kdiff813 | February 23, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

This sucks, but hey, it's not our house.

Posted by: Pete803

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Not according to the magnet still stuck to my cabinet at work.

Posted by: DCB23

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RFK: Now and Forever?

Posted by: Pedalada | February 23, 2011 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Off topic: Shalrie Joseph was arrested in Orlando Monday for trespassing, according to public record search, reported by Kyle McCarthy.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish

Not sure what these guys are up to? Graffiti? Weed? Crack? All of the above? Always seemed to go go hand in hand when ever I was into one or the other...;)

Posted by: DadRyan | February 23, 2011 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DadRyan | February 23, 2011 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I do love Charm City

Posted by: teo_68 | February 23, 2011 10:24 PM | Report abuse

And if that crook Fenty hadn't screwed United on Poplar Point, United would likely be opening a stadium there this season.

At the time, MacFarlane was going to front ALL the money in exchangebfor infrastructure improvements and development rights... As it is, I don't think there's anyone contracted to build anything on Poplar Point right now.

I hope PG or MoCo have sites that are being considered, because DC and VA are worthless

Posted by: alecw81 | February 23, 2011 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's a drag, but team-owned soccer specific stadiums are often put to other users as the teams try to maximize the return on their investment
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These out side users often include football games. Columbus, home depot center, and frisco tex all host high school football games.

Posted by: jjfooty | February 23, 2011 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the city sell RFK to Will Chang?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 23, 2011 8:32 PM |

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I don't thin the city could. THe land is federally owned. While the city technically owns the building, I don't think hey would have the right to sell it as their lease on the land is conditioned on maintaining the stadium. Also, they're saving the space for the glorious return of the Team that Shall not Be Named Until It Gets a Less OFfensive Name.

@alecw81 -- It sure would be great if PG stepped up. They do have the sites, but the Council already put the kibosh on a soccer stadium. Montgomery's Council is far more interested but I don't think the team is thrilled with the possible sites (no Metro, deadly traffic, etc.).

IIt really has to be DC It doesn't seem sane to expect anything to change this year. but I do think it could. Winning soccer ===>> big crowds ====>>>> new investors + at least one councilman who's inclined to make it possible..... ===>>> SSS deal.

Posted by: fischy | February 23, 2011 11:31 PM | Report abuse

is this really that surprising...love all that DC United started with..but if your not moving forward your gonna get left behind...1996 ok to be in bigger stadium 2011 you better be breaking ground or somebody else (cough cough Baltimore, Raleigh, Orlando) will be glad to do so and take in a MLS market..even if not $$$ NFL,MLB...MLS is making itself a good 5th sport

Posted by: willworkforgoals | February 23, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Have any two executives ever deserved each other more than Gray and Payne? Just saying their names makes one happy.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | February 24, 2011 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the city sell RFK to Will Chang?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 23, 2011 8:32 PM

Thor, you shouldn't troll where you eat. or however that phrase should be applied.
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@VTUnited: I have no idea what that means. Please explain for those of us who still think a twitter is a muscle spasm.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 24, 2011 8:42 AM | Report abuse

"And if that crook Fenty hadn't screwed United on Poplar Point, United would likely be opening a stadium there this season.

At the time, MacFarlane was going to front ALL the money in exchangebfor infrastructure improvements and development rights... As it is, I don't think there's anyone contracted to build anything on Poplar Point right now"
-alecw81

Bro, one question and one very obvious observation:

1) Has Fenty been indicted or is there some sort of ongoing corruption investigation that I missed? "Crook" is a pretty strong word and while he is a politician who had made some very questionable moves "crook" might be a bit harsh.

2) From pretty much the get-go, it was pretty clear that when Uncle Murrrian Burrry got the Daddy Mac involved in the process that MacFarlane was always interested in the real estate deal. DC United was just the land baron's ugly daughter that he felt he had to marry in order to get into the family and make some more dollar$. It was a marriage of convienence and he bailed as soon as he saw that he was stuck in a marriage with a chick who never really excited him emotionally or phsyically and the union was never going to bring him a windfall.

Just my take. No better than the next man's (or woman's)...

Posted by: yankiboy | February 24, 2011 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for WCSA's announcements of "The Nation's Baseball Classic" and "The Nation's Rodeo Classic."

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | February 24, 2011 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey powerboater, if you are going to try to make a point, you should try to cite examples that back up your point, not prove the opposite. While the DC government didn't pony up everything they promised, they gave extensive tax breaks, and zoning changes tot Pollin. They even deleted a road for him. And there was certainly plenty of local government support for Jack Kent Cooke stadium when it first went up, they even built a new exit ramp off the Beltway for it. Cooke even got the local address changed to Raljon.

Posted by: FlyersSuck | February 24, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Why are people here still bothering to engage in arguments with PowerTroll? He's not in the tiniest bit interested in rational discussion. He's not going to consider the arguments you make. He's not going to alter his assertions based on your factual corrections. He's going to keep saying the same stuff over and over, because he's just trying to yank your chain. Why do you let him? Self-loathing?

Posted by: christopher_a_metzler | February 24, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Let's all reminisce about P-boater's prediction last year at this time:

"You can bank on it, the lockout is coming. Better be nice to me now if you still want the inside info while the lockout is in progress.
Posted by: PowerBoater69 | January 22, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse "

Posted by: fallschurch1 | February 24, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Anyway, the college game is lame, I say we -- TRASH THE STADIUM!!!

Oh, wait . . .

Posted by: fallschurch1 | February 24, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Tobin Heath/Yael Averbach "Trick Shot Battle"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJTWiAoEiL4

Ben Olsen's got that move, Tobin Heath's got my heart.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | February 24, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the city sell RFK to Will Chang?

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 23, 2011 8:32 PM

Thor, you shouldn't troll where you eat. or however that phrase should be applied.
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@VTUnited: I have no idea what that means. Please explain for those of us who still think a twitter is a muscle spasm.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 24, 2011 8:42 AM

I thought you were making a joke about selling the staidum to Chang, since people come on here all the time and say "why cant they just sell RFK to the team?", ie, you were playfully antagonizing. so I was trying to make the joke that you shouldnt crap where you eat. clearly it did not work.

Posted by: VTUnited | February 24, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

@HokieUnited: Don't let it get ya down, Man. Many folks in the various forums that I am known to particiapte in don't always get my brilliance either.

We are (sigh) but prophets without honor in our own land, Playah.

Posted by: yankiboy | February 24, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Thanks JfA. If it were not my role here to steadfastly defend Santino, I might say that Tobin/Yael could have called their "over the goal and into the breezeway" shot "The Quaranta."

I would like to see YA and Cat Whitehill do the old "punt pass and kick" competition kicking soccer balls.

Come to think of it, a version of that at halftime for youth players would be cool at the SoccerPlex, if there were a womens league that had games at the SoccerPlex.

Posted by: OWNTF | February 24, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

@HokieUnited: Don't let it get ya down, Man. Many folks in the various forums that I am known to particiapte in don't always get my brilliance either.

We are (sigh) but prophets without honor in our own land, Playah.

Posted by: yankiboy | February 24, 2011 11:13 AM

haha, preach on yb

Posted by: VTUnited | February 24, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I don't make jokes.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 24, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I do make a mean French toast, though.

Posted by: Rand-al-Thor | February 24, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with American toast? Eurosnob.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | February 24, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

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