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Posted at 9:37 AM ET, 03/ 6/2011

Video: Freddy Adu superb goal in Turkey

By Steve Goff

By Steve Goff  | March 6, 2011; 9:37 AM ET
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good for him. that movement looked intelligent.

Posted by: hungrypug | March 6, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Nice touch, nice turn, nice hit.

Freddy really should come back and play in MLS. At least in MLS he can play in front of bigger crowds.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Ron16 | March 6, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Mark me down as one who thinks he would have to single handedly get this team promoted to get back in a national team camp. Until he proves he's a player, and not a roller coaster, he shouldn't get that media attention.

That said, I will laugh at any nay sayer who says we couldn't use more of That on the national team.

Posted by: UnitedDemon1 | March 6, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 6, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

ADUUUU!!!! He lives!
BTW - great coverage online of the Cascade Beer Summit or whatever they were calling it up in the Pacific Northwest. Very clear video quality and decent Timbers announcers - and you could hear the crowd. Much better than the TFC coverage of DCU last night.

Posted by: nairbsod | March 6, 2011 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong - I'm happy to have the DCU online coverage, but just was comparing the two.

Posted by: nairbsod | March 6, 2011 10:36 AM | Report abuse

UnitedDemon1: I agree, but what about the U-23 team? If he gets regular playing time at his club should he be included in this Summers USA team for the Pan Am Games in Mexico?

I think so.

Posted by: grackle88 | March 6, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Paging Bob Bradley...

Posted by: redskinsux | March 6, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Great article in the New Yorker on the supporters group of one of the big Istanbul clubs. It's behind the paywall, but easy enough to get... :

Posted by: edgeonyou | March 6, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Grackle, I think that's a great idea, I just doubt Adu would.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | March 6, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Nice job, Freddy, keep it up.

He looks like he's put on some mass since his DC days.

Posted by: delantero | March 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, if we knew putting his bobble head in the attic would yield such beautiful results we would have done this earlier!

Posted by: getanewnumber10 | March 6, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

cap him!

Posted by: DonR19 | March 6, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Someone's put together a highlight reel of Freddy's game today. Very impressive. He draws numerous fouls early on. He's robbed of an assist in the second half when a neatly-timed pass draws a poor offside call. Stick with the highlights after that, though. The best moment comes with a replay shown about the 3:20 mark -- gorgeous bit of volleying skill ending with a bicycle pass cross the six that nearly produces another assist but the header goes over the bar.

Posted by: fischy | March 6, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Seriously -- if that header had gone in, Freddy's assist might even surpass Suarez' effort as the most spectacular assist of the weekend.

Posted by: fischy | March 6, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

13 days until United's first 2011 league match!

Posted by: Curious99 | March 6, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The New Yorker article edgeonyou references is about Besitkas (sp?) fans, and the following line, about the author's attempts to interview a leader of one of the team's fan clubs, gives you an idea of the level of fanaticism in Turkish soccer. "I wanted to interview him but was told that would not be possible, as he had been shot."

Posted by: b18bolo | March 6, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

OT: Goff's Twitter page links to an article on a new tennis stadium that will be built in the District with the help of substantial public financing:

Posted by: universityandpark | March 6, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

@ universityandpark

This is not good.

Posted by: UnitedDemon1 | March 6, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Slate article on soccer disparities in Europe. It seems that they are the capitalists and we are the socialists.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 6, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

UnitedDemon1... I believe Freddy's team is in first place, so they will probably get promoted. Therefore, I don't think that should be the bar for a Adu national team return. I am under no illusion that Freddy should get a U.S. call up; maybe if this was 1997 I would reconsider. We are now a series national team and have a deep roster (not in world class terms but in serious competition). On the other hand, I think this loan is great for Freddy because it simply is showing he can still play, and he is still relevant. When his contract with Benfica runs out this summer Freddy needs to find the right team in a top flight. If he continues to succeed, we can discuss a call up post Gold Cup/early WCQ.

Also, I apply this logic to Fielhaber. As long as he remains in a 2nd flight, he shouldn't be considered for the Gold Cup either.

Posted by: grubbsbl | March 6, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Adu's contract runs thru summer 2012. He could hope for a loan extension, or he could hope to seriously impress Benfica.

As for the Kastles stadium -- Pretty location for a stadium. I certainly think it would make sense for some cooperation with the cit y and either this or one of the other area developers to bring United into the neighborhood. They'd bring more business than the Kastles. What I don't see in the article is any indication the city is contributing support for the stadium. The article mentions a 3 year-old commitment from the city to the Hoffman firm to assist with some infrastructure -- piers and such. Nothing about this latest development -- the temporary stadium the Kastles are planning.

Posted by: fischy | March 6, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

@ grubbsl

They're actually second, and six teams are within 3 points of each other at the top, but I see your point. Benfica is probably ready to sell at this point, and a newly promoted Turkish Superliga team isn't a bad deal (provided they can afford him).

As for "we are a serious national team" with a "deep roster," the reason Freddy mania never dies, why we secretly pray Najar joins us, is because we hardly have Any players who can do what Freddy did in that video; Jermaine Jones, Holden, don't change that.

You want to tell me Agudelo will make it? Fine. But we need all our potential offensive geniuses to make it deep in the World Cup.

Posted by: UnitedDemon1 | March 6, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

From earlier thread :

Nani nani boo boo


Posted by: OWNTF | March 6, 2011 9:30 AM


It was some boo-boo. If you get to see a picture-- looks lie it ripped a big, deep flap off his shin. I'd bet it took quite a few stitches to close.

Posted by: fischy | March 6, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to do a sociological study about people who react the way OWNTF did about Nani's injury -- with mockery and disbelief. I suspect that with regard to frequency and intensity of those comments/feelings, conservatives probably way out number liberals.

I don't mean that in a negative way, really -- just think it fits with what studies are showing about the personalities of the two groups...that the differences go beyond political differences and may be rooted in more immutable characteristics.

On the other hand, when you look at the athletes that are usually subject to such criticism, very few are fair-complected. Outside of Arjen Robben, I can't think of a player of Northern European descent who gets accused of being a flopper or whiner. Those labels are saved for players with olive skin...or darker.

Posted by: fischy | March 6, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to both of your for correcting me.

I understand why the Freddy hype doesn't die. I am part of those the believe Freddy has the skill set to do something unique and different for our team. I still point everyone to the friendly against Spain. His first 45 minutes epitomized the composure and passing a top national team needs. By deep roster, I simply mean, does playing in the 2nd division of the Turkish league warrant a call-up? I am not so sure. I would place Michael Bradley, Jones, Holden, Edu, Clark, Torres, Fielhaber and probably Kliejstan ahead of him on the depth chart. And I'm not sure the level of competition he is at gets him above anyone of those players.

The good thing is he is 23, and could still grow. The next World Cup is three years off and I can see him making a contribution.

As a Man United fan, I'll admit that Liverpool completely deserved the win today. And that the ref didn't contribute to the loss. However, these past few games United-Chelsea, Arsenal-Sunderland, United-Liverpool, and Wolves-Spurs revealed how poor officiating is in the EPL. Jamie Carragher deserves a lengthy ban for that tackle; instead, the refs have reaffirmed the principle that it is okay to get "one free shot" at a player and escape with no punishment. Nani is a prick, even as a fan I don't particularly care for his antics, but I would be pissed too if I knew I was going to have to leave a game to get stitches for a tackle around my knee when the perpetrator simply gets a yellow card. That may be the British way, but that type of culture continues to push me to watch the games on Goltv more and more each weekend.

Posted by: grubbsbl | March 6, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Adu's still 21 isn't he? I'd still love to get the "real story" of what happened at Aris. By most accounts he was holding his own fairly well on the field.

Here's hoping this is beginning of a career turnaround for him.

Posted by: BooThisMan | March 6, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Fischy, I am sure your sociological study could be done in a manner to produce a degree of statistically significant results in favor of your hypothesis. However, the counter argument is that anyone's negative reaction to Nani today is probably down to the fact that Nani contributes in creating this imagery. Additionally, using a control of Arjen Robben would probably refute your hypothesis that perceptions of players, either negatively or positively, is racially based -I don't know too many people who like Robben. In fact, I can't stand both.

In regards to this comment:

"I don't mean that in a negative way, really -- just think it fits with what studies are showing about the personalities of the two groups...that the differences go beyond political differences and may be rooted in more immutable characteristics."

The major flaw in this type of assumptions (that it is rooted in "immutable characteristics") believes that ideology is a fixed and concrete conception. Or in your case, there are certain people who are more prone to view Nani, based on his "olive skin" are a diver, flop, cheat, etc. Political ideology on the other hand is not immutable. It is shaped through language and culture; or how we perceive the world. No one is born with preconceived biases. This is why, Nani's skin color may have no bearing on anyone's perception of Nani; or course it may also mean it has everything to do with peoples perceptions of Nani.

Additionally, by pigeon holing your results to those of "liberal or conservative" you are stating that those of conservative ideology are predisposed, possibly through genetics (I don't know how your are logically taking this), to be more likely to view those of darker skins negatively; and since it is 'innumerable,' their ideology is permanent. Is this really something we want to claim? And it doesn't even hold water against the test of time which has seen numerous and regular changes in collective perceptions of the world.

Your comment, and mine, have probably opened a can of worms which we usually avoid on this blog. I would just like to go on record that I disagree with your hypothesis. Yes, their is a vast amount of literature suggesting race places a role in forming individual and collective perceptions of the world. In fact, their is even a large amount of literature which continues to reveal the way language is used to create negative collective perceptions of those who are non-white -the work of Edward Said comes to mind. I just think your Nani example may be off. And I state this simply based on the track record of ridiculous antics Nani usually produces game in and game out.

Posted by: grubbsbl | March 6, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Freddy Adu is 21. Thanks for the third correction :)

Posted by: grubbsbl | March 6, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

fischy: Google "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" by Aesop.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 6, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: benonthehill | March 6, 2011 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I think there is an underlying factor in accusing players of flopping, but I don't think it's racially motivated. Rather, I think it's a cultural thing.

There are plenty of light skin players that get criticized for diving other than Robben. Forlan does (he's of Northern European descent). Snjeider does (and we can probably begin a list of Dutch attackers here). Scwheinsteiger got heat a lot back when he played on the wing more regularly.

And of course, let's not forget Morten Gamst Pedersen, the actor of perhaps the most comical dive ever.

It's not a skin color or race thing. It's a culture thing. The vast majority of coverage us Americans get of European soccer is heavily influenced by Brits, if not outright from Brits. And Brits generally hate anything foreign when it comes to soccer, so they will criticize foreign players harder. And so will their listeners, for the most part.

That's why Nani gets it so hard. That and because he's on Manchester United. And also because he is one of the worst.

And it's also why players like Rooney, Gerrard, Ashley Young, Joe Cole, Lampard etc rarely get any extended harsh treatment for their dives. As much as the English media loves to hate its players, they aren't as quick to accuse their own of something they consider foreign.

In my opinion. :)

Posted by: Jooseppi | March 6, 2011 6:03 PM | Report abuse

To be precise, I was making 2 different points. First, is from a subjective view -- that is the subject doing the viewing. I was supposing that conservatives are more likely to speak up and point out what they see as flopping, whining or otherwise hemming it up. As far as political ideology, I acknowledged that is very changeable, but sociological studies, even MRIs, are suggesting that is often correlated with personal characteristics which are less changeable. I wasn't supposing that's rooted in or even expressed in racial terms. Just that conservatives are more likely to complain about someone flopping, where liberals are more likely to suspend judgment or at least keep their mouths shut. I don't have any evidence to support this -- I was just guessing.

I also noted that there is also an objective component -- the object/person being viewed. I do think that palefaces are much less likely to be accused of the flopping, etc. There may be exceptions, but mostly the supposed big offenders have darker skin. I'm not suggesting that conservatives are more likely to take a racist attitude here, since I think this shows up pretty widely with most people who complain about it.

Posted by: fischy | March 6, 2011 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to get too far into what I consider an absolutely fatuous argument, but when my son was at the Benfica school they actually TAUGHT flopping. That this is common throughout the Portuguese league (and, in my opinion, the Italian league), is unfortunate, but it does not mean that those who notice it should be judged so negatively. Having watched Nani in almost every single one of his games over a two year period (for both club and country), I believe he does flop, in addition to whining, taunting, and sulking. And yes, I would have to see the gash that required stitches before I would ever believe a complaint of his. I think 270 was more succinct -- as he usually is -- with his "boy who cried wolf" mention.

Posted by: troy6 | March 7, 2011 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Some deep post here.

I just wanna say that I'm happy for Freddy's happy moment.

Hearing the Freddy ADU chants going between the p.a. announcer and the crowd gave me some chills.

Good for the kid.

Posted by: yankiboy | March 7, 2011 9:04 AM | Report abuse

@UnitedDemon1: "we hardly have Any players who can do what Freddy did in that video".

Thanks. You beat me to it. Where we have depth is not in creative attacking play. Hopefully someday. In fact we don't really even have depth in some areas where the US side has traditionally been strong, in the back and between the pipes. We're pretty one dimensional right now.

I think our area of strength makes us a "hard side to play against", but I'd love to see some of our other areas develop. I see some promise, so I am hopeful.

Posted by: Matte | March 7, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

we need someone to start an investigative series focusing on questions that Soccer Insider commenters want answered. here's some to start with:

* What really happened with Freddy Adu and Aris?
* What happened with Danny Szetela and DCUnited?
* Why was no Sounders fan ever punished for throwing a bottle at Josh Wicks? (for DadRyan)
* Why does Goff get sent to cover college basketball instead of doing investigations of FIFA corruption as he should be?
* Who over-egged the pudding?

Posted by: dimesmakedollars | March 7, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The goal wasn't beyond the ordinary other than the fact that Adu scored it. Hardly "superb".

Posted by: NICKYNUNYA | March 8, 2011 5:53 AM | Report abuse

@NICKY, I'm no Freddy fan, but I have to disagree. He collects the ball with a guy on top of him. Then, he makes space and scores with a hard and low shot in the corner away from the keeper. That's a great goal in my book.

Posted by: greifie | March 8, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

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