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Posted at 2:52 PM ET, 08/31/2010

Mosque rhetoric boosting Taliban, report says

By Jeff Stein

Newsweek is reporting that the Taliban is using controversy over the “Ground Zero mosque” to raise money and recruit new fighters, both inside and outside Afghanistan.

It’s proved such an effective tool that “it now heads the list of talking points in Taliban meetings with fighters, villagers, and potential recruits,” the weekly says.

“By preventing this mosque from being built, America is doing us a big favor,” a Taliban operative named Zabihullah told the weekly. “It’s providing us with more recruits, donations, and popular support.”

Zabihullah -- who, like many Afghans, uses only a single name -- said the emotional rhetoric against the project has prompted “the heaviest e-mail response ever on jihadi Web sites, far bigger even than France’s ban on burqas earlier this year,” Newsweek reported.

“We received many e-mails asking for advice on how Muslims should react to the hijab ban, and how they can punish France,” Zabihullah was quoted as saying.

But the mosque issue is generating even more hatred toward the United States, he claimed: “We are getting even more messages of support and solidarity on the mosque issue and questions about how to fight back against this outrage.”

Former FBI counterterrorism specialist Ali Soufan sounded the same theme here two weeks ago.

“When demagogues appear to be equating Islam with terrorism, it's making young Muslims unsure about their place in the country,” he wrote in a Wall Street Journal Forbes essay. “It bolsters the message that radicalizers are selling: that the war is against Islam, and Muslims are not welcome in America.”

But some other prominent Arabs in the West think the mosque plans are deliberately designed to incite harsh rhetoric against Muslims, to the benefit of al-Qaeda and other Islamist radicals.

"We Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation," Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah wote recently in the Ottawa Citizen.

Raza is author of “Their Jihad ... Not my Jihad,” and Fatah is author of “The Jew Is Not My Enemy.” Both are Canadian residents and sit on the board of the Muslim Canadian Congress.

By Jeff Stein  | August 31, 2010; 2:52 PM ET
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Comments

The Taliban must think everyone thinks like Newsweek does. Propaganda is a good tool is you get the right fools to listen. Mosque rhetoric is boosting recruitment? Ha! Building the mosque is a bigger recruitment tool then just rhetoric.

Posted by: houstonian | August 31, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

So certain American politicians are screaming about a ground-zero mosque for short-term political gain. Meanwhile, their hateful words are reported in the worldwide media and improving Taliban recruitment. Then, these same American politicans start screaming about more funding and more soldiers to fight the increased Taliban.

I have an idea - let's admit OBL has left Afghanistan, that we have no further business there, and come to an understanding with the Taliban.

Further, let 's let that mosque be built - somehow we don't have a problem with those ground-zero strip clubs, but we have a problem with a mosque?

Oh - and try to vote those stupid politicians out of office, while we're at it.

Just my 2 cents...

Posted by: shadowmagician | August 31, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

of course issue is being used to recruit. the Koran States that ALL OF THE WORLD belongs to ISLAM. to kill the unbelievers etc etc ...
Islam as a personal faith is simplistic and utterly PRIMITVE the same as all the others..stone age nonsense.
its just too bad that after millions of yrs of evolution modern man still has to resort to communicating the concept of NO! with a thrown stone..
in this case the BULLETS OUT OF the barrel of a rifle as chairman MAO so famously stated.
TO THOSE WHO SUBMIT.... I say this to you ...prepare to die for your false and ignorant delusions

NO SUBMISSION NO SURRENDER

we stand free in a UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

WE DO NOT kneel grovel or submit to ANY religion EVER

religions are nothing more than compulsive obsessive disorders and followers of them deserve nothing less than to be treated as the PRIMITVE non REASONING criminals they are with forced labor camps and servitude until they are re-educated into accepting REALITY for what it is

BTW you cannot WORSHIP the ELECTROMAGNETIC spectrum you can only recognize it and respect it for what it is ..an AWESOME powerful force of majestic nature

its not a god you idiots

Posted by: JudgeAlan | August 31, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so we shouldn't talk about it or object to the in your face mosque, right?

B.S. and you phonies in the democrat party and their accomplices in the media know it.

Disgusting slugs.

Posted by: LarryG62 | August 31, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Yup, the Taliban thank their American useful idiots.

As do the troops in Afghanistan when they die.

Posted by: Garak | August 31, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

This author is a Zionist, lying devil. This article is all nonsense. Wanna know what the real recruitment tool is? Our foreign policy... the killing, crippling, sodomizing, looting, etc.

It is the occupation of their land that is the real recruitment tool. Not some mosque debate.

We are totally screwed by the Zionist media. In fact, chances are, this post will not be published... they have us by our cojones.

Posted by: peaceandprotest | August 31, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama, Pelosi and the Dems will believe the Taliban's claim that America's ire against the mosque at Ground Zero is helping their recruiting - they believe illegal immigrants should have more rights in this country than we citizens and they have always held the word of America's enemies in higher esteem than that of our military and intelligence community...and expecially more than what the vast majority of Americans want.....that is why the midterm is shaping up to be a slaughter of the Democrats. Only a complete fool would believe anything the Taliban states....so of course the Washington Post, Obama and the rest of the Dems believe them!

Posted by: Realist201 | August 31, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse


Just another example of how rabid right wing ideology falls on its own sword.


Posted by: thecontributist | August 31, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

So,here again Big EGO Loud Mouth Kenyan Loser AWOL President Barack Hussein Obama's
and his fellow Democrat Pal New York City
Mayor Micheal Bloomberg loudly demanding
Approval for that damn Muslim Extremists
Building a 9-11 Muslim Victory Mosque in a
building that was hit by landing gear from
one of the 9-11 highjacked jet used to crash into the WTC and now goofy senile old
Republican Fool Flip Flop Outed RINO Mormon
Disgrace To The US Senate Demanding they
must build it are the biggest cause of this
whole furor and at least now we all know
for sure that Muslim in Chief Disgrace to
the Presidency Barack Hussein Obama is a
MUSlIM Himself and Supports Muslim Terrorism and Extremists and that Mayor Bloomberg has extensive Middle East Big Time Big Money Interests. We need to remove
Obama,Bloomberg,and Hatch from office now!
And in senile old fool Orin Hatch's case
what else can you expect from a Mormon Cult Member as well. The US Constitution
Says Nothing About Any Guaranteed Right To
Build Mosques,Churches,Cathedrals or Jewish
synogauges anywhere and Hatch back a Congresional Law that Violates the US
Constitution with his Nutcase Mormon Bill
about it as well. Obama,Bloomberg and now
Senile Orrin Hatch are a disgrace to the
USA and are lowlife troublemakers and may
damn well have even committed High Treason
by their Giving Aid And Comfort To Enemies
of the USA, Osama bin Laden and Al-Qeada and the Taliban Muslim Extremists! I agree
Deport all stinking Muslims along with all
Illegal Aliens Here & Now!Take Back America
From Barack Hussein Obama Here & Now On
Election Days 2010,2012,and 2014 until every gutless coward muslim and illegal alien panderer has been kicked out of office! No 9-11 Muslim Victory Mosque and
No Illegal Alien Amnesty Ever!

Posted by: carleen09 | August 31, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

carleen09: USEFUL IDIOT!

Posted by: Garak | August 31, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks teabeggers. We really needed to throw a rock into the hornet's nest with this hate and fear stuff.

Posted by: abigsam | August 31, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Muslim extremists tell their uneducated followers that American are at war with Islam. Fox news tells its uneducated viewers that building a comunity center 1/4 mile from WTC site means Muslimsa re at war with America. Those uneducated Americans freak out, thus "proving" to the uneducated potential extremists that they were told the truth. And viola - conservatives have just recruited another batch of terrorists for al Qaeda dn Taliban without those groups having to do much of anything. This is quite as good a recruiting tool as the Iraq invasion, but it will do fotr those terrorists who have been deprived of their greatest recruiting tool now that we have a sane president.

Posted by: John1263 | August 31, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The Koch brothers and Right Wing extremists looking for any divisive wedge issue; racial, religious, economic, homophobia, islamophobia to divide and weaken American society for their financial gain are driving the whole divisive Mosque issue: The Billionaires Bankrolling the Tea Party

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html?src=me&ref=general

The primary funding sources for the Tea Party are Oil Industry funded conservative groups:

“Americans for Prosperity”, “FreedomWorks”, “Cato Institute”, “American Enterprise institute” and the “Heritage foundation”.

which receive substantial funding from Exxon Mobil, ChevronTexaco and David Koch of Koch Industries, the largest privately-held energy company in the country, and the conservative Koch Family Foundations. Koch industries are responsible for hundreds of Oil spills spread over multiple states.

The billionaire brothers who are waging a war against Obama.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer

“Charles Lewis, the founder of the Center for Public Integrity, a nonpartisan watchdog group, said, “The Kochs… have a pattern of lawbreaking, political manipulation, and obfuscation. I’ve been in Washington since Watergate, and I’ve never seen anything like it. They are the Standard Oil of our times.””

The Tea Party is fighting for what's best for Wall Street Criminals, for Oil and Coal Industry Criminal negligence resulting in Deaths and Pollution, and the Policies that allow them to continue doing so Without Oversight or Regulation.

Why isn’t the Tea Party organizing and demonstrating against Industries causing the Deaths and Lost Livelihoods of Millions of Americans? Why aren't they protesting Lack of Regulation against Wall Street, Oil and Coal companies that are Killing People and caused the Financial Devastation of Millions of Americans? Why aren't they protesting against BP and Halliburton's Gross Negligence in the destruction of Multi-Billion dollar Tourism and Commercial Fishing Industries in the Gulf Coast Oil disaster?

Because the Companies Responsible is who Started, Fund and Direct Tea Party actions.

The Tea Party has a Clear Allegiance: The Rich, Oil and Coal and their ability to Pollute and Poison and dodge taxes at Public Expense while they rake in the profits.

Posted by: Airborne82 | August 31, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"So virulent is the Islamophobic hysteria of the neocon and Fox News right - abetted by the useful idiocy of the Anti-Defamation League, Harry Reid and other cowed Democrats - that it has also rendered Gen. David Petraeus’s last-ditch counterinsurgency strategy for fighting the war inoperative. How do you win Muslim hearts and minds in Kandahar when you are calling Muslims every filthy name in the book in New York?" - Frank Rich, NY Times, 21 Aug '10.

I'm glad I'm not in the Army any more.

Posted by: Islander5 | August 31, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

http://groundzeromosquetheamericanway.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dseigler2 | August 31, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Baloney. Do you really think that the Taliban hasn't perverted and twisted all information regarding the U.S. for years as a recruiting tool? This is nothing new.
They control the flow of information and use their perversion of Islamic law to recruit desperate, uneducated people.

Posted by: bethg1841 | August 31, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

All this teeth-gnashing is getting us nowhere. Ignore and move on. This kind of nails the whole conflict, beautifully - http://www.terrorbullgames.co.uk/mosqopoly

Posted by: see_no_evil | September 1, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Well - the mosque is going to be a PROPAGANDA TOOL - built or unbuilt.


So - would your rather have then recruiting over the internet about the mosque OR


Recruiting over the internet AND at Ground Zero about the mosque ???

This is a WAR - which means DO NOT give the enemy any advantage.


I believe that denying the mosque ends the PROPAGANDA quickly - and puts the whole mess behind us - limits the damage.

It is Bloomberg and Obama who are dragging this whole controversy out - and giving the Taliban an ADVANTAGE.

The supporters of the mosque are the ones who are shortsighted and helping the Taliban.
.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 2, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

The article writes:

“When demagogues appear to be equating Islam with terrorism, it's making young Muslims unsure about their place in the country,” he wrote in a Wall Street Journal Forbes essay. “It bolsters the message that radicalizers are selling: that the war is against Islam, and Muslims are not welcome in America.”

____________________________________

Let's compare the situation with the Muslims in American with other ethnic groups in history.


The Irish had it worse.

The Italians had it worse

The Germans gave up their entire cultural heritage with World War One and Two.


The Asians had it worse


The Jews had it worse

The Blacks had it the worst of anyone.

So the history of ethnic minorities in America - its better than the histories of ethnic minorities in other countries - still not pretty.


The other point - a great deal of acceptance comes with assimilation. There were some studies stating that one generation tries to be "Americanized" and the next tries to re-discover its roots.


Having said that, the theme here seems to be "how can we make the muslims KEEP their full identity - and NOT assimilate - and make them happy"


IS that the same which has been EXPECTED of other ethnic groups ???


Is this coddling of certain ethnic groups actually impeding their more natural "assimilation" which would have happened otherwise ?


These are important issues.


.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 2, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Liar n chief

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27251

What happened to the investigative journalistic rigor applied during the watergate debacle years ago? Holy smokes..it not like ya can't find a scoop

Posted by: skillssss | September 2, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The only thing anyone needs to take away from this post is that the Taliban, who are killing our troops in Afghanistan and gassing little girls on the side, want the mosque to be built. The idea that free Americans might raise their voices in protest is intolerable to them. Which proves the point that we anti-GZ Mosquers have been trying to get across from the start: Whatever that phony Rauf's true intentions might be, "Park51" will be viewed as a trophy mosque and a recruitment tool by jihadists around the globe.

Posted by: slade_vactory | September 2, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Tax Breaks 4 Muslims

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38809

Its all the GOP's fault. Hey anyone that brings this up maybe a racist. Watch out!

Posted by: skillssss | September 2, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Sketchy tax break for GZ imam "prayer pad"

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sketchy_tax_break_for_gz_imam_prayer_4DtxTQNfOotrzkJ3FFrPWJ

I wish the vast right wing conspiracy would just let this go. Lets not make this an issue. Elections are coming up. Our leadership and state controlled press has already spoken on this issue. The nerve of these racists. Why are people asking these type of questions.

Posted by: skillssss | September 2, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The Other Religion at Ground Zero
A Greek Orthodox congregation has been waiting longer—and working harder—than Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf to restore the church that was destroyed on September 11, 2001.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/02/the-other-religion-at-ground-zero.html

Posted by: skillssss | September 2, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

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