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Posted at 8:40 PM ET, 12/20/2010

Islamic group asks DoJ to review police training

By Jeff Stein

Two groups representing American Muslims differed sharply Monday over revelations in The Washington Post about the sometimes-ignorant quality of local police training on radical Islam, with one group calling for a Justice Department investigation, the other saying it “is not a systematic problem.”

"Monitoring America," by staff reporters Dana Priest and William M. Arkin, cited examples of “experts” without formal training who are telling law enforcement groups that most U.S. Muslims want to take over America and replace the legal system with a strict code of religious laws known as sharia.

"They want to make this world Islamic,” one instructor, a former Army Special Forces sergeant and Los Angeles Police Department investigator who is now a private security consultant, told The Post. “The Islamic flag will fly over the White House…My job is to wake up the public, and first, the first responders."

Another trainer quoted by The Post says he warns police officers that "you need to look at the entire pool of Muslims in a community," and recommended that law enforcement authorities "monitor Muslim student groups and local mosques and, if possible, tap their phones."

The Post said such views echo "Shariah: The Threat to America," a study by the neoconservative Center for Security Policy, which argues that radical Muslims are conducting a "stealth jihad" in the United States.

"Government terrorism experts call the views expressed in the center's book inaccurate and counterproductive," The Post said.

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement calling on Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. “to review Justice Department policies on the reported use of anti-Muslim extremists to train counterterrorism officials nationwide.”

"The use of ill-informed and agenda-driven 'experts' will inevitably result in law enforcement practices that are based on misinformation, not on our nation's legitimate security needs," CAIR’s National Executive Director Nihad Awad said in a letter to Holder.

Likewise, M. Zuhdi Jasser, president and founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, or AIFD, based in Phoenix, Az., said he “would have problems” with the instructors cited by The Post, in particular “former Muslims who had converted to Christianity,” such as Walid Shoebat, who recommended the indiscriminate wiretapping of Islamic student groups and mosques.

But “to indict a whole system for using some people who hate or fear Islam,” he said, was “wrong.”

“It’s not a systematic problem,” Jasser said.

CAIR, he said, “is in denial that there is no Islamic threat…They just want to dismiss everything as Islamophobic.”

There is a real threat from “political Islam,” added Jasser, who was a U.S. Navy doctor for 11 years, "and counterterrorism training on it is very relevant.”

The problem comes when ill-advised trainers “equate political Islam and sharia with Islam itself.”

“If they see Islam itself as the problem, then the [training] strategy is dead in the water….It doesn’t present any type of solution.”

Jasser’s AIFD created a police training project called RILE, for Radical Islamism for Law Enforcement.

“The goal of the project is to provide police and legal professionals a basic understanding of Islam, the tools to engage Muslims in their community with confidence, and a systemic understanding of the path of radicalization,” said AIFD spokesman Gregg Edgar. “They have done some presentations here in Phoenix and will be further developing the project in 2011.”

CAIR has conducted sensitivity/diversity training with the FBI, armed forces and law enforcement organizations, but the FBI severed its formal ties in 2008 over CAIR’s ties to the Palestinian group Hamas, which the State Department classifies as a terrorist group.

Responding to CAIR’s call for a review of training programs, Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd noted that “the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 required the President to issue guidelines to protect privacy, civil rights, and civil liberties when terrorism information is shared.”

“Any state, local, and tribal entity providing terrorism-related information to federal agencies covered by the guidelines MUST [Boyd’s emphasis] have comprehensive policies and procedures in place to protect privacy, civil rights, and civil liberties," Boyd said. "The Justice Department and its partners take these obligations extremely seriously.”

By Jeff Stein  | December 20, 2010; 8:40 PM ET
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In the US, there are two radicalized communities, Sikhs and Muslims. Their cultural and political history have predisposed members of these communities to engage in violence against those that are not part of their communities. If the radicalization of the Muslim community continues unabated, Muslims will be the biggest security risk that the United States has ever faced.

Posted by: davidmatthews | December 20, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Stein,

There clearly is a Sharia movement in America, and here is a partial list of Islamic schools and Mosques that are part of it.

http://loganswarning.com/islamsharia-101sharia-mosques-in-america/

Mr. Stein, why don't you mention the fact that CAIR wants America to be ruled by Islam? Islam condones lying, pedophilia and rape. Do you always support such actions?

Why don't you drop by my site, so we can debate the issue?

http://loganswarning.com/2010/05/22/author-jeff-stein-tool-of-islam/

Posted by: Christopher3 | December 20, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Here we go. The WaPo writes about a couple isolated cases of bad trainers, not mentioning the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people who provide training to the government that speak intelligently. Critics of the government will now use the article as a reason to pester and FOIA the agencies to death. As a result, the agencies will respond by implementing new rules and procedures to ensure none of the trainers offend anybody, requiring additional staffing. Then the WaPo will write an article about how these agencies are increasing staffing while the private sector is laying people off.

Posted by: justanotherguy | December 21, 2010 5:12 AM | Report abuse

Let criminal investigations proceed where they lead. If the trail of possible terrorists ends at mosques instead of Unitarian gatherings then I suppose that most such investigations involve Muslims.

Posted by: sperrico | December 21, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

To Justanotherguy: Try to read more carefully. I quote M. Zuhdi Jasser, president and founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, as saying, “to indict a whole system for using some people who hate or fear Islam" is “wrong.”
“It’s not a systematic problem,” Jasser said.-js

Posted by: Jeff Stein | December 21, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

CAIR is the face of "moderate Islam" in America ?

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth..." - Omar Ahmad, CAIR

"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future..." - Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR

"Ultimately, we [Muslims] can never be full citizens of this country...because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country" - Ihsan Bagby, CAIR

Posted by: pvilso24 | December 21, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

No Sharia law in America ?

Tell that to Justice Breyer who suggested maybe Islam needs special protection in American law.

Tell that to the Obama Administration at the UN where America's delegation is supporting efforts to amend international law to provide special protection for Islam against blasphemy.

Tell that to cartoonist Molly Norris, now in hiding because of an Islamic edict threatening death. The FBI can't protect her while President Obama, champion of First Amendment rights for Muslims to build a Victory mosque, remains conspicuously silent about Norris's plight.

Tell that to the publisher of a book on the Mohammedian cartoon controversy: Yale University that self-censored.

All disgusting behaviors above... consistent with Sharia law.

Posted by: pvilso24 | December 21, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

DEAR SIR/MADAM,

I hope this helps Former US SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, Newt Gingrich , and others to keep the Separation of State and The Inhumane Religious Laws trying to creep into the US Constitution, which involve a Religious Test, I hope this Research can by Forward to him and others to assist their efforts, as I don't know their E-mail Addresses, so I hope you can assist me in getting this to them, for time is of the essence.

ACCORDING TO RELIGIOUS LAWS AND CUSTOMS, WOMEN CAN'T SIT AS JUDGES,ie SCOTUS 3 OF 9 ARE
I DO NOT CONSENT AND WAIVE THE BENEFITS TO ALL IMF IRS 501 (c)(3) LLC- RELIGIOUS CORP. LAWS.
AS A US CITIZEN ,I AM ALWAYS *AMICUS CURIAE *A FRIEND OF THE COURT 264F.276,279,, 64N.Y.S.2d510,512, AND AS WELL AS *QUI TAM* 21N.W.2d287,289

FOREIGN RELIGIOUS COUNTRIES AND THEIR INHUMANE LAWS/CUSTOMS, REJECTS THE US CONSTITUTION, SO WHY SHOULD WE BEND TO THEIR ARCHAIC INHUMANE DEATH CUSTOMS AND LAWS, SUCH A SHARIA LAW WOULD PRESENT A " CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER " TO US CITIZEN AND ALLOW WARS IN THE STREETS AS IN OTHER COUNTRIES, IT'S NOT ABOUT PEACE, IT'S ABOUT PIECES

"COLOR OF LAW" THE MERE SEMBLANCE OF A LEGAL RIGHT/DUTY 202NW144,148, AN ACTION DONE UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW IS ONE DONE WITH THE APPARENT AUTHORITY OF LAW BUT ACTUALLY IN CONTRAVENTION OF LAW, A FEDERAL "CAUSE OF ACTION" MAY BE MAINTAINED AGAINST A STATE OFFICER WHO UNDER "COLOR LAW" DEPRIVE A PERSON OF HIS "CIVIL RIGHTS 42USCss1983


Thank You


Phiarrapi


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Posted by: shaiarra | December 21, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

911 THE ISLAMIC SHARIA OUTLAWS FREEMASONRY WITH DEATH PENALTY SEE RESEARCHED NOTE BELOW, SO DON'T EVER ALLOW IT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, THE US CONSTITUTION IS LAW, ANY NOT ISLAMIC "INFIDELS" AND "FATWAS" HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY ON THEIR HEADS, KEEP ALL RELIGIOUS DEATH LAWS/ CUSTOMS OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT OR US WILL BECOME LIKE OTHERS
WITH WAR TORN LIKE RELIGIOUS INHUMANE DEATH LAWS, QUERY WHY DO PEOPLE COME TO US?

* GOOGLE AND YOUTUBE: RELIGION MENTAL ILLNESS: AND YOU'LL SEE THE PSYCHOLOGY REPORTS ON EXTREMISM SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS DELUSIONAL AND SELF INDUCED HALLUCINATIONS AND DEADLY VIOLENCE,...GOOGLE: RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM CAUSES MENTAL ILLNESS...THEIR CRAZIES PERIOD

* GOOGLE/YOUTUBE: BIBLE ZEITGEIST, AND THEN YOUTUBE:Banned From The Bible II - The History Channel, SEE REAL TRUTHFUL FACTS OK, ALL RELIGIONS ARE LLC/S-CORPORATION IMF IRS 501 (3)(c)
ALL CROSSES/ OBILISK/ RITURALS/ IDOLS/ LETTERS/ NUMBERS/ MATH/ etc. ARE OF PAGAN ORIGINS

Like in "The Devils Advocate" Religious Archaic Inhumane Laws Are what causes Mental Illness, "smell but don't look, look but don't touch, touch but don't taste, taste but don't swollow, swollow but don't enjoy. This Make The Double Conflicting Split Mind That causes Fanatical Rants , Hypocricy, self blame then the condemning/ punishment of others etc., to feel self-rightousness (Freuds= Paranoiad Regretion/ Denile /Rejection/ Projetion, then self-justfication "BY GOD" Delusions, that recycles more and more,rejecting Rational Thinking and Reason, that leads to Inhumane NON-Civility Acts of non-self defence rage, and we know what types of blind judgement those leads to, see the media reports

RELIGIOUS LAWS ARE NOT HUMANE EQUALITY LAWS (SHARIA/ LEVITICAL etc), THERE JIM CROW LIKE
RELIGIOUS INHUMAN DEATH LAWS ARE VERY MUCH OUT DATED AND SHOULD FADE AWAY ASAP, DUE TO SCIENTIFIC, PSYCHOLOGICAL, TECHNOLOGICAL, MEDICAL Rx ARTS DISCOVERY'S. ( JOHN GALT )

"COLOR OF LAW" THE MERE SEMBLANCE OF A LEGAL RIGHT/DUTY 202NW144,148, AN ACTION DONE UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW IS ONE DONE WITH THE APPARENT AUTHORITY OF LAW BUT ACTUALLY IN CONTRAVENTION PF LAW, A FEDERAL "CAUSE OF ACTION" MAY BE MAINTAINED AGAINST A STATE OFFICER WHO UNDER "COLOR LAW" DEPRIVE A PERSON OF HIS "CIVIL RIGHTS 42USCss1983

AS SOME MUSLIMS I'VE SPOKE WITH IN THE PAST ARE GLAD TO BE HERE WHERE THE DEATH LAWS OF SHARIA CANNOT BE ENFORCED ON THEM NOR FAMILY, OR FRIENDS AS IN OTHER COUNTRIES, BY WHERE MORE ARE BLOOD LUSTING CLERICS, AND SELF-RIGHTEOUS HOLIER THEN THOU LIVES, just as with any other religion, Islamic Countries still fight each other also, thats not peacefulness (period)

Posted by: shaiarra | December 21, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

IF PASSED, THERE WILL BE MANY VIOLATIONS OF BOTH US CITIZEN AND NON-CITIZENS EQUAL PROTECTIONS UNDER THE LAW, BILL OF RIGHT, AND CIVIL RIGHTS,IT'S-CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER

THE US CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT FOREIGN/RELIGIOUS LAWS
ART.6 CL.2, AND IN CL.3, (RES IPSA LOQUITUR, RES JUDICATA )(NOR CAN A RELIGIOUS TEST/DEMAND/ QUESTIONING/NATURE, CAN BE GIVEN TO A US CITIZEN THEY ARE A PARTY TO THE PUBLIC TRUST (EXECUTIVE ORDER 13037) CITIZENS ARE HUMAN CAPITAL, CAPITUS DIMINUTIO MAXIMA, C.U.S.I.P. BONDS


NON-US CITIZENS AND US CITIZENS ARE LIABLE (CRIMINALLY/CIVIL) FOR PUSHING FOREIGN LAWS
AND CUSTOMS ON ANY US CITIZEN AND NON-US CITIZEN ON US SOIL, THAT'S A TREASONOUS ACT PERIOD

ie XTIANS USE OF LEVITICUS ,BIBLE AND SHARIA TO BLOCK DADT REPEAL AND SAME SEX MARRIAGE CONTRACTS , THE US CONSTITUTION LAW DOCTRINE CALLED "FREEDOM OF CONTRACT" ALLOWS ADULT US CITIZENS TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS, XTIANS MIS-LEADING USE OF FOREIGN RELIGIOUS LAWS TO BLOCK BOTH CONSTITUTIONAL/CIVIL RIGHTS OF THOSE SAME SEX (XXY MALE/ INTERSEX )US CITIZENS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND TREASONOUS.

DUE TO THE FACT THAT THOSE RELIGIOUS INHUMANE LAWS ARE FOREIGN LAWS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES, NOT NATIVE AMERICAN LAWS THAT ARE THE ONLY RELIGIOUS LAW FROM THE USA.

THE US CONSTITUTION FORBIDS BOTH FOREIGN/ RELIGIOUS LAWS BEING ENFORCED ON US CITIZENS, THEY FAIL THE HUMAN CIVILITY EQUALITY TEST , THEY PRESENT A "CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER" TO BOTH US CITIZENS AND NON-CITIZENS, HERE ON US SOIL PERIOD, JIM CROW LIKE DEATH LAWS

An unofficial translation of the ruling cites an Old Testament passage (Deuteronomy 7:2) which talks about making "treaties" with other peoples. The translation warns that it can lead to intermarriage and other problems "because their lifestyle is different from that of the Jews."

FULL FAITH AND CREDIT LAW DOCTRINE

APPLIES TO SISTER US STATES ONLY,NOT FOREIGN LAWS AND JUDGMENTS ART.4sec.1, 72US290,302, BUT IT CAN BE CHALLENGED OF EQUALITY BALANCE 356US604,607,/ 325US226,229/ 375US106,111,


COMITY (COMITAS) LAW DOCTRINE IS A RULE OF COURTESY, BUT NOT A RULE OF LAW,
RELIGIOUS/FOREIGN INHUMANE DEATH LAWS FAILS THE TEST OF EQUALITY/ BILL-CIVIL RIGHTS OF US CITIZENS, " In the exercise of one's religion one, CANNOT INSIST ON CONDUCT WHICH THREATENS important interest on the society in an UNREASONABLE MANNER. The courts must, therefore, BALANCE the Importance of a religious exercise claim against the State interest involved in a rule or practice which prevents or hinders the exercise 367US488,489.

Posted by: shaiarra | December 21, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

LEVITICAL/SHARIA DEATH LAWS ARE UNREASONABLY CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS , OF WHICH THE FOUNDING FATHERS LEFT EUROPE BECAUSE OF INHUMANE RELIGION. ie. THE SEPARATION OF RELIGION AND STATE, NOR ANY RELIGIOUS TESTS EVER, IT ALSO OFFENDS THE USA ABOLITION, EMANCIPATION OF WOMEN, AND CIVIL RIGHTS ERAS


AS IN A DIVORCE DECREE OF A FOREIGN COUNTRY, BUT, THE COURTESY CANNOT REVOKE ANY OF THE US CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION OF BILL OF RIGHTS NOR EQUAL PROTECTION OF SECULAR LAWS, NOR THE PASSING OF FOREIGN LAWS ONTO US CITIZENS, NOR THE STATUES OF CIVIL RIGHTS, PATRIOT /NATIONAL SECURITY ACT,

RELIGIOUS INHUMANE DEATH LAWS DOSE NOT PASS THE 14AMEND. EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS, LAW DOCTRINES OF [RATIONAL BASIS TEST ] 431US471,489 427US307,314, [STRICT SCRUTINY ]403US365, 405US330, 411US1,16-17 , [COMPELLING INTEREST] 394US618,634 AND [SUSPECT CLASSIFICATION ] 411US1,28,

GOOGLE/ WIKIPEDIA/ YOUTUBE: INTERSEX/ XXY MALES IS GENETICS THEREFORE A RACE 379US184,191 AS ALCHEMY TEXT SAY THERE ARE THREE SEXES MALE-FEMALE-& HERMAPHRODITE CALLED THE REBIS SPICES WHICH IS BOTH THE OLDEST FROM WHICH "ADAM" WAS CREATED AS, AND WHAT MAN WILL BECOME AGAIN, SEE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT ON GENETICS PROTECTIONS, AGAIN FORIEGN/ RELIGIOUS LAWS ARE NO EXCUSE TO BE INHUMAN NOR A TERRORIST AND JIM CROW LIKE PERIOD

THE US CONSTITUTION 1ST AND 11TH US CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS

NO FOREIGN/ RELIGIOUS LAWS OVER US CITIZENS PERIOD,( RES IPSA LOQUITUR, RES JUDICATA) IT BARS THE INCORPORATION OF ANY FOREIGN LAWS INCLUDING RELIGIOUS LAWS (SHARIA-LEVITICAL- VATICAN etc) FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE they must be of HUMANE CIVILITY (SECULAR in purpose and effect see Law Doctrines ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE/ IN TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, BY ANY OF THE 4 SEPARATE POWERS (EXECUTIVE/ CONGRESSIONAL/ JUDICIAL AND BY VOTE OF THE US CITIZENS ) FOREIGN INHUMANE DEATH LAWS, IT'S PROHIBITED AND US CONSTITUTIONALLY INAPPROPRIATE, IT'S "CLEAR AND CONVENCING EVIDENCE" THERE INHUMANE, NON-CIVILITY, PERIOD

Posted by: shaiarra | December 21, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

STATES CAN NOT CONSIDER FOREIGN LAWS (ART.1sec.9Cl 3& sec10 Cl 1&3) ( RES JUDICATA )
THIS INCLUDES THE INHUMANE RELIGIOUS DEATH LAWS, WHICH ARE FOREIGN LAWS ALSO

AS THE US CONSTITUTION PROHIBITS "INAPPROPRIATE LAWS" WHICH ARE NON-SECULAR HUMANE CIVILITY IN THEIR PURPOSE AND EFFECTS ON US CITIZENS, SHARIA-LEVITICUS ARE NOT SECULAR
SEE BILL OF ATTAINDER, EX POST FACTO, ART.1sec.9Cl 3& sec10 Cl 1&3 " NO STATE SHALL...ENTER INTO ANY TREATY, ALLIANCE OR CONFEDERATION.....NO STATE SHALL...ENTER INTO ANY AGREEMENT OR COMPACT WITH ANOTHER STATE, OR WITH A FOREIGN POWER,....., 381US437,448, AS A RELIGIOUS LAW WOULD BE A SUBTLE JUDICIAL TREATY OF WHICH BOTH NO STATE NOR JUDGE CAN DO , BOTH FOREIGN /RELIGIOUS INEQUALITY/ DEATH LAWS-CUSTOMS ARE CRUEL,UNCONSTITUTIONAL

(US CONST.AMEND.14sec1) "RELIGIOUS LAWS [SHARIA/ LEVITICAL etc] GIVES NO EQUAL PROTECTIONS OF THE LAWS, NO FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION, by privilege and law I AM immune from Religious Sharia/ Leviticus Laws the US/a State can not abridge this right, for such Legislation would be INAPPROPRIATE AS CHILL CHILLING EFFECTS LAW DOCTRINE 380US479:472US491,503, (20th AMEND.sec4) "ONLY CONGRESS CAN AUTHORIZE DEATH PENALTIES, NOT RELIGIOUS LAWS AND NOT FOREIGN LAWS ON US CITIZENS", I DO NOT CONSENT TO RELIGIOUS LAWS (LEVITICAL/ SHARIA) AND WAIVE THE BENEFITS (.)


ART.6 CL.2, AND IN CL.3, ( STAR E' DESISIS, RES IPSA LOQUITUR)

THE US CONSTITUTION IS ABOVE RELIGIOUS INHUMANE LAWS, DON'T LIKE IT, THEN LEAVE PERIOD, THE CONDUCT OF THIS NATION IS THE CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL STATUTES, NOT THE JUNGLE LAWS OF INHUMANE NON-CIVIL SUPERSTITIOUS RELIGIOUS DELUSIONAL HALLUCINATION NON-REASONABLE LAWS, THE LAWS OF THIS LAND IS THE CONSTITUTION AND STATUES, NOT RELIGION, THEY SHOULD LEAVE PERIOD, SHARIA FORBIDS THE US CONSTITUTION TO BE ABOVE ISLAM, THAT'S TREASON !


RELIGIOUS LAWS ARE NOT HUMANE EQUALITY LAWS (SHARIA/ LEVITICAL etc), THERE JIM CROW LIKE
RELIGIOUS INHUMAN DEATH LAWS ARE VERY MUCH OUT DATED AND SHOULD FADE AWAY ASAP
RES IPSA LOQUITUR, THE INHUMANESS DEATH/JIHAD etc. SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR IT'S SELF

Posted by: shaiarra | December 21, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

The free world said "never again” after the dismal failure of a stance of tolerance and appeasement toward a violent people with an ideology of world domination. Tolerance and appeasement toward such a foe failed miserably and cost many, many lives.

Islam is obsessed with hatred, violence and world domination. Let’s just call it like it really is:

One: muslims worship the demonic moon god of the canaanites, he is not nothing, he is a demon.

Two: That demon is obsessed with death and killing - hence the hatred and vile acts and atrocities committed even against one’s closest family members. Islam is a cult fixated upon murder, torture and death.

Three: Duplicity is permitted, treachery is encouraged and evil rewarded in the name of the demon. The main thrust is to constantly contend with all other ideologies and ultimately eliminate them by taking over the world.

Four: Lastly, and probably worst, islam is not really even a religion as much as it presents clinically as a psychosis. It is more like a mental illness that indulges a fantastic hatred of all things not islam. And historically, when non-muslims have not been available to kill and war against, islam turns upon itself preying faction upon faction, individual upon individual. Murder, hatred and death are found wherever it is.

Now just for a second, is it possible that such an insatiable and voracious ideology could be appeased with tolerance?

http://smashabanana.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Lentenlands | December 25, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

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