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Posted at 1:30 PM ET, 01/10/2011

Tucson should make Rep. King rethink Muslim probe

By Jeff Stein

The shooting in Tucson offers Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.) an opportunity to rethink his planned Homeland Security Committee hearings on Muslim “radicalization” in this country.

King says he's worried about the “disconnect,” as he calls it, “between outstanding Muslims who contribute so much to the future of our country and those leaders who--for whatever reason--acquiesce in terror or ignore the threat.”

By that standard, he should have hearings on the failure of Republican leaders to denounce Sarah Palin's "crosshairs" Web page and Sharron Angle's invocation of "Second Amendment remedies" to Big Government and her opponent in the Nevada U.S. Senate race, Harry Reid.

Of course, that is no business for the Homeland Security Committee. Imagine the response if King's Democratic predecessor, Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, had tried to summon Palin and Angle, not to mention Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, to testify at such hearings.

King's announcement of hearings last month proved incendiary, with law-abiding U.S. Islamic groups and such prominent individuals as Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), the first Muslim elected to Congress, protesting that such an attention-getting forum will only further “vilify” them.

"I got so concerned that when I heard about it I actually approached Congressman King on the House floor and told him that, you know, look, we all need to be concerned about violent radicalization, but not just against Muslims, against anybody," Ellison said on MSNBC. “What about the guy who flew a plane into the IRS or what about the guy who killed a guard at the Holocaust museum?”

Critics might counter that Muslim accused terrorists, such as Ft. Hood’s Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan or airline “underwear bomber” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, are far more dangerous than the figures Ellison cites.

Or even Jared Loughner, the accused Tucson murderer, who is being portrayed less as a lone operator and more as an exemplar of right-wing extremists (or just opportunists) who demonize liberals.

Rep. King said he promised Ellison, “If you want, you can testify. You can have a panel of your own. And it's not going to be a setup. We're not going to be taking shots at you."

But he hinted at just that when he said in his announcement that he would "do all I can to break down the wall of political correctness and drive the public debate on Islamic radicalization." And let's not be naive: There are Muslim bashers who will find in the hearings a platform, whether they’re testifying or just spouting off on the Internet, to connect Muslim organizations to terrorism.

I do not mean to minimize the influence that the vicars of violence such as Anwar al-Aulaqi have on a deranged individuals who happen to be Muslims. If anything, the Tucson killings, as well as the Kennedy and King assassinations and Timothy McVeigh’s Oklahoma City bombing and countless other “senseless” acts of political violence, show that homicidal maniacs emerge from all kinds of political riptides and psychological hells, not just Islamic ones.

Why single out Muslims, at least at this particular time? They are already under the constant watch of the FBI. The U.S. intelligence community, meanwhile, not to mention think tanks and universities, have already spent untold fortunes reporting on, not to mention blunting, the appeal of radical Islamism, as anyone can find with a simple Internet search, including King. If they're not doing enough to short-circuit terrorist acts, the Homeland Security Committee should hold hearings on that.

Now is exactly not the time to throw more gasoline on the fire by opening hearings whose main purpose seems to be to pressure U.S. Muslim leaders into showy denunciations of terrorism.

Watch Bill O'Reilly interview Jeff Stein on the subject on Fox, Jan. 13.

By Jeff Stein  | January 10, 2011; 1:30 PM ET
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What did Barack Obama say he would do to counter Republicans political efforts?

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

Obama at a Philadelphia fundraiser (June 13, 2008)

Posted by: FactsAreFunnyThings | January 10, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, you are so right Jeff. Because this one nimrod so greatly overshadows the 16,000+ jihad attacks that have occurred since 9/11.

Posted by: JohnGalt13 | January 10, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Stein the Islamic apologist speaks again. Is this one attack supposed to erase all the Islamic terrorist attacks, that are taking place across the world?

Jeff, Islam condones extortion, lying, rape, and slavery? Which is your favorite part?

If you ever grow a spine, just show up on my site to debate me on this issue.

Posted by: Christopher3 | January 10, 2011 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I believe you right Jeff. I don't believe we should focus on one group but do a panel on all people who do harm to this country because if we only focus on one specific group then we going to missed the big picture which is people trying to bring fear in this country and cause huge death. I think the commitee should especially King should rethink only doing muslim radcalism which only bring more fear of all muslims even though not all muslim are radical. Representative King just prove how much this country is categorizes one group of people as radical when majority of that group is not and how much farther this country has to go before we stop categorizes one group as the same and discrimation.

Posted by: mtt_brbr | January 11, 2011 4:10 AM | Report abuse

Jeff, Islam condones extortion, lying, rape, and slavery? Which is your favorite part?

If you ever grow a spine, just show up on my site to debate me on this issue.

Posted by: Christopher3 | January 10, 2011 11:17 PM

And Christianity supported Hitler, Franco and Mussolini. It also suported slavery, organized pederasty and Jim Crow, not to mention marital rape and abuse. It just figured out that child pornography might be wrong. Christianity has the only racially segregated places of worship I know of. Even the Bible praises Paul for using lies and deceit to spread the "gospel".

Posted by: williamwertman | January 11, 2011 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Of all the illogical shrieking from the left following the Tucson shooting by an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic, this piece takes the cake for being off the charts loony.

Muslims need to be investigated because their religion tells them to murder infidels. Major Nidal Hasan agreed and shot dozens, while shouting "Allahu Ackbar!"

That murder is but one example out of thousands. Muslims kill for their hateful religion every day.

Posted by: BerkeleyBW | January 11, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Breaking down the wall of political correctness" COULD be the right thing to do. IF, and I do emphasize IF, it is replaced with something better -- which should not be hard.

Unfortunately, I doubt that Congressman King is really interested in that. It sounds to me like he is more interested in 'grandstanding'.

Posted by: Syllogizer | January 11, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Stein,

You are obviously asleep. I suggest you research thoroughly before you write any more half baked, thoughtless opinions.
"Why single out Muslims, at least at this particular time?" The answer can be found everywhere. Wake up, open your eyes. The US is under attack, Europe is under attack, Africa is under attack. What more do you need ? Hello? Maybe if you read your news from other than liberal sources, you might have a clue. Try reading JihadWatch , you might learn something. Unless you think that JihadWatch is a hate site and you cant bring yourself to read it. I assure you it is not. It is providing information that so called main stream media wont provide out of fear.

Please wake up Mr. Stein. Your country needs you.

Posted by: nika0001 | January 11, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Abdul Rahman Alamoudi was the founder of the American Muslim Congress, directed the selection of Muslim Chaplains for the Military and advised the Pentagon for over a decade. One of the most revered islamic scholars on the continent, he was also a primary fund raiser for Al Qaeda.

The foremost scholar of deobandi islam, Mohammad Usmani, has instructed muslims living in western countries to "live in peace until strong enough to wage jihad."

Premier scholars at Al Azhar University endorse materials and instructors who believed in armed offensive jihad to establish the supremacy of islamic law.

The Muslim Brotherhood, which is influential in approximately 80% of US mosques, has officially declared that its purpose in America is to "destroy Western civilisation from within" until Allah's religion reigns supreme.

An ASTONISHING number of MAS alumni both here and in the UK have been arrested or deported for terrorist activities.

An increasing number of major media outlets are too afraid of islamic terrorism to allow artists, writers, cartoonists to depict ANYTHING controversial about islam, Mohammad or the Quran -and in fact the last one who did so publically, Molly Norris, was FORCED INTO HIDING (not to mention the numerous, multi-party plots and assassination attempts against Lars Vilks, Kurt Westergaard, and many, many others).

Undercover footage from major UK mosques shows Imams advocating the beating of ten year old girls for failing to conform with islamic gender apartied dress, the assassination of apostates and homosexuals, hatred for kuffars, the duty to engage in armed jihad, pedophelic marriage, the need to withold the Ummah's "secrets" from the Kuffar, and imprecations to "live like a state within a state until you take over." (See Dispatches: Undercover Mosque and Under Cover Mosque, the Return)

. . . . Other that, I can't imagine what such hearings would possibly have to talk about.

Posted by: Omar1 | January 11, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Break down the wall of political correctness? So is he going to investigate Israeli infiltration of Congress?

Posted by: Garak | January 11, 2011 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Well said Omar1. I am sure Mr. Stein is able to see your clear logic. Question is, will he ?

Posted by: nika0001 | January 11, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

King just wants somebody to beat up on so he doesn't have to actually think about anything like policy. Unfortunately he will probably only succeed in undermining the interests of the United States in the region.

Posted by: treefrog2 | January 11, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

King just wants somebody to beat up on so he doesn't have to actually think about anything like policy. Unfortunately he will probably only succeed in undermining the interests of the United States in the region.

Posted by: treefrog2 | January 11, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

. . . An ASTONISHING number of MAS alumni . . . ."

Should be "MSA alumni"

And thanks, Treefrog2:)

Posted by: Omar1 | January 11, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse


"Well said Omar1. I am sure Mr. Stein is able to see your clear logic. Question is, will he ?"

Not sure, Nika, but I do know it's getting harder and harder for folks like Stein to deny the obvious . . . and thanks for the compliment!

Posted by: Omar1 | January 11, 2011 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Mr. Stein,
As you can see, there are many racist ignorant comments here. There are the same people that will bash the Jewish Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, etc. You got the point. These are the real anti-American, I truly feel sorry for them because they do not know any better, they have no love in their hearts or knowledge in their brains. They keep bringing stupid fake facts, they believe it, and that's all what they see. I say, God bless America with it's Christians, Muslims, Jews, and the rest of the rainbow colors. Few bad Muslim committed criminal acts, and these witch hunters want to crucify all Muslim Americans for it. Now this criminal in Arizona committed this act due to the hate speeches from the tea baggers, can we say all tea baggers are criminals?

Posted by: Mason_Jar | January 11, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

sorry for the typos above, using my iphone

Posted by: Mason_Jar | January 11, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The name of the byline is “Spy Talk, Jeff Stein’s intelligence for thinking people.”

I think is should say “PC drivel for the ideological straitjacket.”

The Palin “crosshairs” comment as a clear indicator of bias. If not, there should have been a mention of the Obama “we bring a gun” comment. (There are many more examples.)

The issue is Islam. And all one has to do is read a little bit about Islam to see that it is a giant system that incites some of its followers to commit violence. Yes, it may be a minority of extremists. But numbers of these extremists is high enough to cause the entire world pain and blood wherever Islam is.

I am not a republican or a democrat - both parties have their faults. But leftists’ refusal to address the reality of Islam makes me wonder what the real goal of this leftist poppycock is.

Read how Islam works at .

Posted by: bob311w9 | January 11, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, those arguing in favor of Rep. King's decision to release his inner McCarthy feel that people murdered by non-Muslims aren't as dead, and their deaths aren't as wrong, as those murdered by Muslims.

And reading "Jihad Watch" to learn about Islam is like learning about Jews or Catholics from the KKK.

Posted by: kingcranky | January 11, 2011 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Mason Jar:

" . . . As you can see, there are many racist ignorant comments here . . . "

Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology - one that forms the basis of a particularly brutal system of laws, courts and government with any number of "real world" enforcers. Equating criticism of islam with racism is irrational and only serves to advance the utterly twisted proposition that an ideology has a "right" not to be criticised that supercedes the rights of ACTUAL human beings to speak freely and without fear.


" . . .And reading "Jihad Watch" to learn about Islam is like learning about Jews or Catholics from the KKK."

Unsupported ad hominems won't work anymore.

Cite ONE instance in which Jihadwatch has mistated or even unfairly exaggerated any aspect of islam or islamic law. Then we'll talk.

Posted by: Omar1 | January 11, 2011 7:12 PM | Report abuse

The individuals that are attacking JihadWatch demonstrate quite clearly that they have never read the articles on that site. If they indeed have, which I do not believe for a second, they must be unable to think clearly. There are no other possibilities, sorry. The site is not perfect, but it it not unfair or biased in any way I can detect. Facts are facts.
It is better to learn to think for ones self instead of adopting ready made opinions of others.

Posted by: nika0001 | January 11, 2011 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Another Jewish liberal making little sense.

Posted by: cleancut77 | January 11, 2011 8:42 PM | Report abuse

One of the most ignorant, or, if not done in ignorance, despicable things I've read on the issue. Jihadists are following the Qur'an TO THE LETTER. This nutbag in Arizona couldn't follow one sentence with another, apparently because he had burned up any brain cells he may have had smoking dope.

Posted by: jhimmi | January 11, 2011 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
"He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause"
Muhammad, prophet of Islam

2011.01.11 (Kuru Station, Nigeria) - Children are among the victims when Muslims attack a Christian village, hacking thirteen to death and burning their homes.
2011.01.11 (Yala, Thailand) - Husband and wife plantation worders are murdered by Muslim terrorists.
2011.01.11 (Abyei, Sudan) - Ten Africans, on their way to vote for independence, are ambushed and slain by Arab tribesmen.
2011.01.10 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - Two 'traitors to Islam' are shot to death on their way to work.
2011.01.10 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) - Three people are taken apart by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2011.01.09 (Basilan, Philippines) - Five traveling businessmen are flagged down and machine-gunned by Abu Sayyaf.

Posted by: AlfredHusseinNeuman | January 12, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Stein but moral equivalence does not work here. Islam is a totalitarian political ideology that cannot be compared to the actions of a lone gunman. The only thing that is comparable is that the followers of this political ideology and the lone gunman are both criminally insane.

Posted by: shewholives | January 12, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The byline is "Jeff Stein,s intelligence for thinking people". You know the ensuing article will be a pompous leftist opinion piece. You wouldn't know it was supposed to be intelligence from Stein's disconnected logic.

Who is Stein to tell anyone what to think? Think yourself. The left certainly has been nasty enough especially when Pres. Bush was in office. Go clean up your own side before you try to pin the murder of a nine year old and a Republican federal judge on right wingers.

You ought to be ashamed instead of plastering your big ugly head over an article you should have thought about, Mr. Intelligence. Sheesh!

Posted by: georgiasaraann | January 12, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

What utter nonsense. Islam will tell you to your face they plan to fly the Islamic flag over the White House and have done so on TV.

None of the incidents you mention, McVeigh, King etc were RELIGIOUS oriented. All things Muslim are religious and far more dangerous and demented. Islam is a theocratic political practice that is based on lying to its enemies, whom are essentially the entire population of non-Muslim. Remember, you will be a Dhimmi.

Posted by: bricko | January 12, 2011 11:57 PM | Report abuse

This is so strange. Is Jeff Stein threatening to have Representative King shot in the head by another Pima County doper?

Just what is his aim here?

Posted by: muawiyah | January 13, 2011 11:25 PM | Report abuse

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