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Terps Suffer Historic Defeat To Duke, 85-44

I'm just going to let Gary Williams sum up the colossal beatdown his team took from the Blue Devils this afternoon at Cameron Indoor Stadium.

"I hope the rest of your night is better than my last two hours," he said as he began his postgame press conference. "You know, you always sense that coming in here, you worry about their intensity level, how they play, their defense and things like that. That’s always back there somewhere that that can happen. And it happened today. We didn’t play with the enthusiasm necessary to walk in there and play well."

Three Up:

1) Landon Milbourne showed up. Throughout most of the game, it seemed as though he was the only Terp to do so. Milbourne scored 19 points, nearly half of Maryland's point total. He also tallied five rebounds, two steals and a block. That might not sound great, but it sure stands out when compared to what his teammates accomplished.

2) Jerome Burney suited up. The sophomore forward, who has been out since early December with a stress fracture in his foot, was in uniform today. He warmed up with the team, but did not play. If nothing else, it was a step forward in Burney's return to the court.

3) Nobody lit themselves on fire. This was bad folks, but it was not quite a catastrophic disaster. No Maryland player suffered a serious injury -- other than to their individual and collective pride -- and that has to be considered a positive on a day like today.

Three Down:

1) Maryland's offense. The Terps shot 28.1 percent from the field. They shot 16.7 percent from three-point range. They shot 50.0 percent from the free throw line. They committed 17 turnovers to only 10 assists. They were out-rebounded, 56-38. They seemed flat, lost, frightened, pensive, emotionless, suffocated and intimidated.

2) Maryland's defense. Duke shot 42.5 percent from the field. The Blue Devils shot 48.0 percent from three-point range. The compiled 23 assists to just 10 turnovers. They outscored Maryland in second chance points, 18-10. By the end of the game, they were playing their third stringers and still dominating the game. Duke outscored Maryland in bench points, 28-10.

3) History. The loss was the worst Gary Williams has suffered in 31 years as a head coach. It was Maryland's fourth-worst loss in program history. It was the Terps worst defeat since falling to Army by 63 in 1944. It was the lowest point total Maryland ever has accumulated in 20 years with Williams in charge.

"We just didn’t come out prepared to play," Milbourne said. "We didn’t come out with the same intensity that we did in the last couple of games, and I think they just played a little bit harder than us tonight. And it started to get out of hand to the point where we couldn’t come back."

By Steve Yanda  |  January 24, 2009; 4:15 PM ET
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Not if but when will there be a changing of the guard, so to speak, at the head coaching position? With the tradition the Terps have, you can't seriously assemble a team without being able to attract top recruits to play the post. Time for a young up-and-comer to reinvigorate the program, while we express tremendous appreciation for all Gary did at one time in that regard. Buy out the contract. Otherwise it's ghost man at center, in more ways than one.

Posted by: roseknowsins | January 24, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Good of Mr Yanda to find some Terp positives. It must have been a strain, but good thinking Steve!

The downhill slide continues. So, who's to blame? Blowouts and near blowouts are all too common this year. Team character? Debbie Yow? Coach Williams? The fickle finger of fate? Players saying they were "not prepared to play" doesn't really say much. After all, these guys have been playing for years and we can be sure they were primed for action at the outset. Are differences in Blue Devil - Terrapin talent levels all that great? Certainly there are important weight and height differences, but that doesn't adequately explain a 40 point difference in team scores. What about mental toughness and will to win? Here, perhaps, the Terrapins could improve greatly. But it seems the die is cast for the current season. And it's likely we're gonna have to wait for next year's team to find major improvements.

Posted by: AncientTerp | January 24, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Landon Milbourne was nine of sixteen everyone else including MR.VASQUEZ was nine for forty eight, i mean the Blue Devils didn't burn up the nets shooting 42% from the field and only 57% at the charity stripe and they still beat the Terp's by a whopping plus forty points!!!this is a serious affront to the fans and to the university i've said this before Gary is not a bad coach but he is being out recruited, his assistant's are not getting the job done i don't know if his AD(Kay Yow)is tying his hand's or what but today's beatdown was downright embarrasing!!

Posted by: dargregmag | January 24, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The wait for next year mantra is getting old. This game, this team, this coach needs to be examined and dismantled. Their leader although leads all the stats is a kin to who is the least ugly of all the ugly. Vasquez is bi polar and cannot be trusted with consistent behavior, Hayes is a pussy and disappears when the going gets tough, Dupree is a bust and a waste of a scholarship. That is the product of horrible recruiting and the inability to attract talent in your own backyard. Gary's time is past. He is volatile, inconsistent, a terrible recruiter, and stubborn. I am sick of seeing my university being represented on national TV by a raging, screaming lunatic. Why would any kid worth their weight choose Md over 100 different universities? To be yelled and screamed at? To work in an offensive scheme that is old and outdated. To lose games by 40+ the same way D2 and D3 teams would. Not likely. Gary do us all a favor and resign. Change is coming! Just like the country.

Posted by: Terps841 | January 24, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry to say this, but it is time for Gary to step down. The recruiting has been horrible lately. How can you not find any player bigger than 6'8' is beyond me.This team can't shoot, defend or rebound. By the way, maybe Vasquez will stop running his mouth until he shoots better than 4 for 12 on a regular basis. Why is Hayes still starting or even playing at all. He has not progressed one bit and lets give Mosley a chance. I'm done, this team stinks

Posted by: aginsberg | January 24, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I've been on Gary's side for years, but this loss is beyond disappointing. The program certainly needs to be rebuilt.

Great school, great arena, great conference, national TV exposure. You can't put out a product that hurts the tradition and image of the University like this.

Posted by: ILikeTurtles | January 24, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget that Coach Williams did bring us a national championship and did save the program when the NCAA gave us the death penalty. We owe him our appreciation and thanks for what he has done for Maryland the last 20 years.

There is no doubt the man can still coach as evidenced by the fact of the last couple of games (excluding Duke) by coming up with things like a 3-2 zone to stop the opponents on defense.

That said, his recruiting has been downright atrocious. Especially, AFTER the 2002 season. How many local players have slipped through MD's hands - Melo and Durant come to mind - and gone on to have huge impacts on other campus'.

He just doesn't have the horses to compete. He can't seem to land any top 20 talent. I'd like to think it's because we have higher admittance standards than the other schools but it may be that the kids just don't like his coaching style. The players he has gotten recently aren't highly regarded but do try to work hard on the floor which fits the coach's personality. He occasionally hits the lottery (Dixon, Francis, Smith) but those are few and far between. He also has problems with choosing the right starting rotations. I can remember when he hardly played Wilcox his freshmen year and used players like Mardesich way too much. This year, why is Cliff Tucker not getting more playing time? An athletic G/F who makes the heady extra pass and can create his own shot can never hurt. I understand our "bigs" are garbage so you have to go small, but how about a little boxout help from our guards? Also, our assistant coaches and recruiters aren't what they used to be. Many have left and headed their own programs. Which, again, speaks highly of Coach Williams.

We'll just have sit back and wait to hit that "motherlode" of recruit(s). In the meantime, just plop in that 2002 National Championship DVD or better yet that CBS special "Tragedy to Triumph: The Maryland Terrapin Odyssey". Remember that documentary? That was the best. Brought a tear to my eye.

Posted by: ptp_er | January 24, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Watching ESPN's College Game Day with Coach Knight and Digger Phelps, I was wondering if they might have a chair there for Gary. Do you suppose Sean Miller would leave Xavier for the ACC? Maybe Tubby Smith would leave the North Country to come home to Maryland.

Posted by: HarroldtheCat | January 24, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse a '72 grad I have been in Gary's corner---2002 was great redemption--- but --while I did not expect victory today I did expect a competitive game --- time to turn the page... Bob Wade never lost by 40+ to Duke...Bob Wade...

Posted by: bobeaston | January 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

If Debbie Yow is part of the recruiting problem, she needs to go also. I can't stand professional situations where people can't or won't work together. If Yow isn't supporting Gary then she needs to be fired also, remove them both. Who in the heck is doing this horrible recruiting?? Neal is your #1 big man?? (And I like him) Frustration mounts in DC area. This is no suprise really, look at their size and quickness.

Posted by: Redtopper2 | January 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Fire Gary *clap* *clap* *clap-clap* *clap*
Fire Gary *clap* *clap* *clap-clap* *clap*

Fire Gary *clap* *clap* *clap-clap* *clap*

Fire Gary *clap* *clap* *clap-clap* *clap*

Fire Gary *clap* *clap* *clap-clap* *clap*

Posted by: alecw81 | January 24, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

If you win NCAA championship, you should have good chance to get the top players out of high school. Terps won it all in 2002. What happend? Terps have been slowly going down hill. While Duke, UNC, UCLA.. get at lease three or four top high school players each year. Look at Maryland now they lost to Morgan State at home. It has been only three years ago, when the Maryland-Duke game was the game of the weekend. Today show how far the Terps have fall. Williams is good coach. But it seems he has lost touch how to get the top high school players to come to Maryland. You have to go back years to find one top high school player who went to Maryland. Unless things change soon Terps may find it self at the bottom of the ACC. That will make it harder to get players. The players over all may play hard. But if they don't have enough players, it won't matter on the scoreboard.
Example 7ft 1 vs. 6ft 7
Who do you think is going to win most of the battles on the boards.
Terps use a three guards in the lineup. When Terps play the big boys they will lose almost every time. It was only few years ago Terps had a good chance to win the big games. It was fun to watch, now it not.

Posted by: daniel31 | January 24, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

to dargregmag. kay yow (whom you identified as the MD. AD and was, instead, the coach at NC State) died this morning after an heroic battle against cancer. to Redtopper2, your criticism of kay yow's sister debbie, in her grief, is sad. these comments are a disappointing but i am confident not representative commentary from the maryland fan community.

Posted by: ajaxthewonderdog | January 24, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I acknowledge and honor Gary Williams for what he has done to re-create the greatest that was Maryland Basketball after the tragedies and suspensions of the past. Gary Williams will go down as the greatest Maryland Basketball coach in my mind. "BUT" at what point do you allow someone who built a program to be allowed to destroy a program. Not in the sense that he is personally hurting the program but in the sense that he is allowing the program to become a "non entity" in Maryland sports. I am upset that Gary doesn't bow out in this time so that fans and alumni don't have to put him through this. Even Dean Smith decided his time had come.

Posted by: playboy1972 | January 24, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Why would any kid worth their weight choose Md over 100 different universities? To be yelled and screamed at? To work in an offensive scheme that is old and outdated. To lose games by 40+ the same way D2 and D3 teams would. Not likely. Gary do us all a favor and resign. Change is coming! Just like the country.

Posted by: Terps841 | January 24, 2009 5:50 PM

I hate to say it, but I think you're right. Gary is caustic and inflammatory, and his system abhores the 3 point line in a time when many of the nation's top teams shoot more threes than twos.

I think the re-emergence of the Hoyas has something to do with the recruting woes as well. The program is definitely on a steep decline and with Gary's age (63), it might be time to make a coaching change. But who? How about Mike Brey of Notre Dame? He's a Maryland native who went to DeMatha. Is MD a better gig than Notre Dame? ND basketball will always play second fiddle to football, while Terps basketball reigns supreme in College Park.

Too far-fetched?

Posted by: saqster | January 24, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: leed1911 | January 24, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

It has long been my humble opinion that Mr Williams won the n/c some years back thought himself king of basketball. As I recall he did not and I repeat did not spend time looking quality recruits, I have to feel that he then felt that they would all come to him. How any years has it been since Terps have had a true quality center.

There has been to much Vasquez(s) and not enough team.

Posted by: ja_3803 | January 24, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree 100% with the comments below (from a quote above). This loss was just horrific. I was in London, and choked on my beer when I saw the score...

The wait for next year mantra is getting old. This game, this team, this coach needs to be examined and dismantled. Their leader although leads all the stats is a kin to who is the least ugly of all the ugly. Vasquez is bi polar and cannot be trusted with consistent behavior, Hayes is a pussy and disappears when the going gets tough, Dupree is a bust and a waste of a scholarship. That is the product of horrible recruiting and the inability to attract talent in your own backyard. Gary's time is past. He is volatile, inconsistent, a terrible recruiter, and stubborn. I am sick of seeing my university being represented on national TV by a raging, screaming lunatic. Why would any kid worth their weight choose Md over 100 different universities? To be yelled and screamed at? To work in an offensive scheme that is old and outdated. To lose games by 40+ the same way D2 and D3 teams would. Not likely. Gary do us all a favor and resign. Change is coming! Just like the country.

Posted by: mwr68 | January 24, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I still remember going to every game when Gary began his coaching career at MD. Went to EVERY home game and a few of my friends and I even went to almost all the ACC road games when Joe Smith was there. After the last second tip in by Smith won the game at Duke back in the early 90s, I even was permitted into the locker room after the game to celebrate. The progress was steady and 2002 was the pinnacle. It was also the year our first child was born which made the year so significant.

Things have changed. Players are different and I actually think Gary is tired but, like any true competitor, he wants to go out on top. My gut is that if he could put one solid run together that gets to even an Elite 8, he'd quit. But what are the chances of that happening? Let's see how the season ends this year. The chances of the Terps making the post-season have to be slim because I sincerely question the leadership and guts of this group of players. They have to be very short on confidence after what has happened over the past six games, including letting UVA come back and almost tie the game last week. If the Terps get handled like this when they play UNC (twice), Wake and Duke again, I think it is time to make a change and that really hurts me to say that because I love Gary Williams but it may be that his time is past.

Posted by: cymoin | January 24, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of performance you'd expect from a Division II team.

I still maintain that Gary Williams' earlier success can be largely attributed to his assistants. The program has not experienced much success since he left.

Also, the terrain has changed in college basketball. The screaming, choking, ranting style no longer works with today's athlete. Twenty or thirty years ago that was considered acceptable.

I'm certain Gary wants to win more than anyone posting on this message board. However, he has shown an unwillingness to change his style. In a way, he seems to be stuck in the ways of the past. If he would only adapt a bit to the changing terrain, he'd experience success again.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | January 24, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

The 2002 team was a special group. Gary didn't have to yell at them much because they were able to basically police themselves. They were mature on and off the court.

I'm not sure what has changed since then, but I've noticed our team is not fundamentally sound. For long stretches, the team seems to be in a daze, not boxing out or playing team defense.

I think Gary needs to get back to teaching fundamentals.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | January 24, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Terps fans really piss me off. Yes, today's game was awful, but the season is not over and Gary Williams is not a terrible coach. The Terps are 6 points away from being 16-3 overall and 4-1 in the ACC. With a loss, Terps fans jump off the bandwagon so quick. The same thing happened in football after the Middle Tennessee State loss. The same football team that was in contention for an ACC title until the last 2 weeks of the season.

The basketball team just needs to go out and beat the teams its supposed to beat (UVA, GT, BC, NC State) and take 2 other games (Clemson, Wake, Miami, or FSU). That will be a trip to the NCAAs.

As for Gary being a yeller and past his prime, I saw a coach teaching and trying to motivate his players. The only yelling was at the officials when they took the second half off and stopped calling fouls or goaltending on Duke.

Posted by: TerpFan2001 | January 24, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

And help is definitely coming next year... Williams and Padgett are beasts inside. They will start as freshmen and bring an immediate improvement to the front court. Too bad they couldn't be here already...

Posted by: TerpFan2001 | January 24, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Yow has to go. She wants good Christian boys only on her team (she is a Liberty U grad) and, as we all know, guys like that suck. She didn't like Maze (starting at Tennessee), Gilchrist (tearing it up at South Florida) and Evans (leading scorer at Kent State) and msde it impossible for Gary to get them. She would have been a great addition to the Bush Justice Department, but she is a terrible AD. Gary has been very professional in public about this but she has finally beaten him down. He deserved better.

Posted by: estockto | January 25, 2009 6:49 AM | Report abuse

My kids leave the room nowadays when I watch the Terps play. They know Daddy is going to say some bad words and throw stuff at the TV. Something has to change. I don't know if it is Gary, Debbie Yow or the fact that you have a kid with the emotional maturity of a sixteen year old running your team that is the problem. Maryland basketball fans deserve better. I could take ten high school seniors who play here in Baltimore and beat Gary's teams the past six years. When is Maryland basketball going to recognize the gold mine it has here? Hire Juan Dixon on a part-time basis, Play three or four games a year here in Baltimore (at the new arena), do SOMETHING.

Posted by: sashab1 | January 25, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Vasquez is terrible. Hayes is terrible. Neal is Terrible.

I have never seen a team look so out of it. That isn't Gary. If you need Gary to get you up for a game @ Cameron then you need to go. Everyone wants to blame Gary, and don't get me wrong, the flex needs to go, but those players were lethargic, uninspired and a waste of Terp Club funds.
Greivas is the Hispanic Gilchrist, a team killer, and someone who overestimates his abilities. Go home, or transfer.

I've heard Stu Vetter and Gary don't get along, only he knew he was given Gary a team Team Killer, all show and no substance. Someone who would curse at his own fans. Thanks Stu!!

Posted by: bmdugan | January 25, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

In my post yesterday I mistakingly used the name of the late Kay Yow(NC ST.)coach instead of Debbie Yow(Md.AD) in my discussion of the Terrapin basketball program my humble apologies.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 25, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

From Landon Milborne:

"and I think they just played a little bit harder than us tonight."

A "little bit"?!?!?! This HAS to be the understatement of the year...

Posted by: jwlemons | January 25, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

As for Gary being a yeller and past his prime, I saw a coach teaching and trying to motivate his players. The only yelling was at the officials when they took the second half off and stopped calling fouls or goaltending on Duke.

Posted by: TerpFan2001 | January 24, 2009 11:47 PM

You're 100% correct...Gary is a teacher, and for every Maryland fan to come out from the woodwork right now and claim this is all Gary's fault is unfair. There is an obvious lack of support from certain people in the administration when it comes to getting some of these kids into school. Gus Gilchrist had 18 points yesterday against 'Nova...If he hadn't of backed out we'd be in a different position right now. Too bad Gary doesn't stoop to the level of hiring these kid's 'handlers' just to have them in an MD uniform for a season. I suppose that would make all of you real happy.

Posted by: jrraley | January 25, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

This is as bad a loss as it gets. Terps hit the perfect storm in Durham, the program was exposed and there's no hiding anymore.

Okay, it's still just one loss and Duke is No. 1, but let's hope that some real soul searching comes out of this and the team can be better for it.

How can the team not be prepared mentally to play? How can Gary allow the star player to continue to inflame the opposition with statements like "I own Cameron Indoor Stadium?". Sometimes a loss like this is the only way a proud but stubborn program learns.

Gary is at his best when things are at their worst, so I fully expect them to bounce back and win against B.C. on tuesday. That gets them to 3-3 with 10 games left in the conference, still enough time to right the ship.

It's time for TerpNation to rally around this team. They need us now and we need them!

Posted by: stevestegman | January 25, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

A lot of fans are calling for Gary's head. In light of yesterday's drubbing, the gaping holes in this year's squad, and the program's lackluster performance over the past few years, that's understandable.

The argument that Gary has done a lot for the program -- including a National Championship -- has some legs. But the REAL reason that we should all be willing to give him a chance is that he has has landed two very solid front court recruits for next year: Jordan Williams and James Padgett. Together with guys like Cliff Tucker, Adrian Bowie, Landon Milbourne, and Sean Mosley, there truly is hope that Gary can turn the ship around.

Posted by: SmittyATL | January 25, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Only when the Terp Club steps up to the plate with buyout money and Comcast revenue declines, will GW be shoved out the door. In the meanwhile, get used to lousy teams and forget the NCAA Tournament.

Posted by: nonstopjoe | January 25, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The fans BLIND adolation of Gary Williams is scary. I'm sure they believe he's reached some sort of perfection, that he never makes mistakes or bad judgments, perhaps he's never even sinned?

These are the reason enumerated by fans for the lousy state of the basketball program:

1- College Park is a horrible area
2- Debbie Yow only wants Christian boys on the team
3- The stands are half empty for home games
4- UMD is a second-rate school that can't compete with UNC or Duke

It's always someone else's fault, not Gary Williams.

Gilchrist left on his own. Debbie Yow didn't force him out. Yow had NOTHING to do with Maze either. As for Evans, a host of schools passed on signing an ex-rapist. I'll take integrity over wins any day.

Sad...very sad.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | January 25, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Gary Williams would like to talk to Sasho Cirovski. He brought in the #1 ranked recruiting class in the country last year and won a national championship in soccer. In fact, he's won 2 in the last 4 years.

So the arguments people are making that this university's academic standards are too high or that the administration only wants Christian boys is TOTALLY INSANE!

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | January 25, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

By some schools’ standards, Maryland men’s basketball has had the sort of overall success over the past seven seasons that some would kill for. But the inconsistency, and the precipitous fall from that 18th-ranked team from 06-07, are maddening. Williams has produced three nationally ranked teams since his national championship seven years ago. But he’s also produced three Not-Invited appearances in four years, and the Terps haven’t looked very impressive in the lesser tournament. More discouraging: The lack of top recruits that the championship should have produced. How many players on this year’s roster could have even made the team at Duke? Or earned any playing time if they did? (The sad answer: a lot of minutes in the second half of their games against Maryland.) The jagged descent, by the numbers:

2001-2002: National champions.
2002-2003: Lose by 8 in ACC quarters, lose by two in regional NCAA semis. 21-10 overall, 11-6 ACC. Ranked 10th nationally.
2003-2004: Win ACC tourney, lose by two in second round of NCAA. 20-12 overall, 7-9 ACC. Ranked 24th nationally.
2004-2005: Lose by 8 in first round of ACC tourney, lose by 8 in NIT semifinals. 19-13 overall, 7-10 ACC. Ranked 21st nationally. 2007-08: Lose by 3 in first round of ACC tourney, lose by 16 in second round of NIT by 16. 19-15 overall, 8-8 ACC. Not ranked.
2005-2006: Lose by 14 in quarters of ACC tourney, lose by 3 in first round of NIT. 19-13 overall, 8-8 ACC. Not ranked.
2006-2007: Lose by 5 in first round of ACC tourney, lose by 3 in second round of NCAA. 25-9 overall, 10-6 ACC. Ranked 18th nationally.
2007-2008: lose by 16 in second round of NIT. 19-15 overall, 8-8 ACC.

Sure hope that incoming recruiting class is as good as advertised.

Posted by: virwill1 | January 25, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for those facts virwill1.

With such a record, it is clear that the championship year was not representative of the Maryland basketball "program".

What is representative is the red face of a college coach, caught in the act of losing control, again. Not a pretty sight. Adding to this image is the clever chanting of the Terps students before games, "you suck", repetitively. Again, not a pretty picture.

It isn't high academic standards that have diminished the Maryland program. It is unseemly public behavior standards, as symbolized by the coach, that tarnish the public image.

That, and losing by 41 points to Duke.

Posted by: truthtime | January 25, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Fire the freakin jive turkey Terp "fans". Just a few short years ago MD handed NC their worse loss in school history and that TarHeel team won something like 8 games that year. Yeah they fired the coach and within the next 2 yrs NC won the title with Doughertys recruits with one of the most overrated coaches ever Gary's brother Roy. Point being these things are cyclical and if you are a fan you will ride it out. The Terps are just a Gus Gilchrist away from being a Top 25 team this year. And as for Vasquez being as destructive as John Gilchrist?? Dude you're drinking too much cough syrup. Vazquez, though volatile is a team player. JG purposely destroyed team chemistry. FIRE THE PHONY TERP FANS!

Posted by: cba51 | January 25, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Gilchrist was 2nd leader scorer, first in assists and TO's, and 3rd in rebounding. GV is pretty much tops in all theses. The problem is if your PG is leading in all these categories, your team is in trouble. As far as being destructive, he undoubtedly is. He was cursing his own fans!! At least Gilchrist brought us an ACC Championship, and I hated him when he left.
Give me Blake or Stokes or DJ before either of these two jokers. Fan is short for "fanatic," but cba, c'mon!!
GV lost his confidence, Lost his feel and his leadership, and now is spouting off, that is destructive. Watch his jumpshot, he's pushing it, not following through and snapping his wrist. Maybe if he didn't break the backboard, we could get a rebound. Ask Mike Jones, or juan how to shoot!
Gus Gilchrist isn't a 6'10 body, he's no Baxter or Ibekwe, so no, there would be no top 25 still.
I love my terps, but just b/c I think GV is overrated, doesn't make me a phony fan. Bc I'm sure you have never railed against any terp or other team's inconsistent players.

BTW Roy Williams won the Nat'l title with Dougherety's recruits, but he is not overrated

Posted by: bmdugan | January 26, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Hey ptp_er (or anyone else who knows), do you know how I can order a copy of the DVD of "Tragedy to Triumph..." from CBS? I taped it when it came on TV but have since lost the tape. And last year, I tried emailing CBSSportsline to inquire about ordering a copy of the documentary, but got no response. Were you able to get the DVD somehow?

Posted by: JamWhitt | January 26, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

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