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Gary Williams Meets With Curtis Malone

Well, this is an interesting twist. Curtis Malone, the co-founder of the talent-rich summer-league program D.C. Assault, told me he met with Gary Williams for an hour last week in an attempt to repair their relationship.

The unlikely meeting also was confirmed by another summer-league power broker who had dinner last night with Lance Stephenson, the unsigned recruit from NY who is considering Maryland.

Malone said he reached out to Williams for the meeting to “establish a comfort level.”

“I wanted him to understand that I want to establish a relationship with him,” Malone said. “I think we are really going to work on a relationship. It shouldn’t get to a point where people feel Gary can’t get certain kids in the area. We are not keeping any kids from Maryland.”

Malone said he has strong relationships with other college coaches, saying that Bob Huggins will call to wish him a “Merry Christmas” on Christmas day.

“Whenever any of my kids are being recruited by Maryland, I can’t say, ‘Oh, Gary is a great guy,’” Malone said. “Because I don’t know Gary. But I would never do anything to push a bad relationship even though I don’t know how it got the way it did. I will show Maryland basketball that Curtis Malone can be a friend of Maryland basketball.”

Malone said he and Williams did not talk about the Washington Post’s three-part series or about Williams’s comments about Malone. Instead, he said, they talked about basketball, their relationship and some of the players Williams did not get.

Williams told him that “I don’t have to go through his assistants to talk to him,” Malone said. “The lines of communication are open. It’s time to move forward. He has turned it around this season a little bit with what he has on the court. And he doesn’t have much” talent.

When I talked to both Malone and Williams for our three-part series on recruiting, it was clear that the relationship was almost nonexistent. And after the Williams was critical of Malone in Part II of the series, some, including myself, wondered whether it was beyond repair.

Now, this meeting does not mean that a half dozen D.C. Assault kids are necessarily headed up to College Park. But it's a step forward, an improbable step because when I left Gary's office after my interview with him on Feb. 5, I didn't think Malone would step foot in there anytime soon, much less within a week.

“There would be nothing better than to see a lot of kids you know since they were 12 and 13 stay at home and watch a game,” Malone said. “That was my whole thing, that we don’t know each other. The things that have been said to Gary about Curtis, maybe he will feel differently once he knows Curtis.”

By Eric Prisbell  |  February 18, 2009; 5:23 PM ET
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Maybe they should take on the situation in Gaza next....

Posted by: Samson151 | February 18, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Having read your articles and interview, I'm frankly stunned by this development. That said, a meeting implies nothing more than a meeting to me, given Gary's other pronouncements about staying on the straight and narrow, so I'm all for it.

Posted by: Lindemann777 | February 18, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

recently saw the Lawrence kid play on ESPN. I don't see that kid at MD. he did not seem humble enough to play any where in the ACC or big programs in the Big East. Add in the PAC-10, big 10 or 12 too. The kid can play, without question. I just question his temperment and attitude. his maturity isn't high profile program ready. I could see him at a Memphis or some decent program where he is the bonafide man. But if Gary is going to make him play his way and jump on him if he doesn't, it could be rocky.

Posted by: oknow1 | February 18, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

It was not clear in the published transcript of the interview with Gary what exactly he was referring to when he said "I know what Curtis Malone is." But the version in the 3 part series claims Gary was referring to "Malone's criminal record." Eric, how did you draw that conclusion? Was this part of the off the record portion of the interview? Or was that possibly you jumping to conclusions?

Posted by: Barno1 | February 18, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Barno, there were portions of the interview that were on the record. You're just going to have to trust me that Gary was referring to his criminal record. I am as sure of that as i am of anything. Gary wanted me to write about his criminal record. And Gary was referring to his criminal record.

Posted by: Eric Prisbell | February 18, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

So, why do you think so few top-flight Washington area players wind up at Maryland?

Posted by: Samson151 | February 18, 2009 5:46 PM

Here we go:

-Sean Mosley was the Baltimore Player of the Year last year and Gatorade Player of the state of Maryland. Is Baltimore no longer in Maryland??

-Andrian Bowie was an All Met.

-Greivis Vasquez and Eric Hayes were both All Mets.

Gus Gilchrist was an All Met.

Dave Neal, hard as it may be to believe, was an All Met.

James Gist was a great high school player at Good Counsel and 2-time All ACC pick who wound up drafted by the Spurs.

John Gilchrist was one of the best PGs ever to come out of the state of Virginia.

Travis Garrison was a McDonalds All American coming out of Dematha.

Chris McCray was a 2-time All Met.

Steve Francis, who went to Montgomery Blair, was one of the best players in the country.

Juan Dixon and Lonnie Baxter weren't highly touted but both were local. And both were 3-time All ACC players.

Keith Booth was a top flight recruit out of Baltimore (again, is Baltimore not local?)

Joe Smith was local and was good enough to become the first player picked in the NBA draft.

That's just to name a few...

But yeah, Gary never gets guys from the Washington area. Never. This claim that Gary "ignores the backyard" is the biggest joke of all time. It makes for good copy and gets some readers fired up, but the problem is that it's 100% false.

It's really pathetic that some people who claim they are avid Maryland "fans" have such short memories that they have forgotten all of the great local guys Gary has gotten over the years.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 18, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Eric, obviously I believe you-that's why I asked if this was part of the off the record portion of the interview.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 18, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I did the first list off the top of my head but here's an updated, more complete version. Gary supporters (or any informed observers) feel free to add anyone of note to this list that I'm forgetting:

Here we go:

-Sean Mosley was the Baltimore Player of the Year last year and Gatorade Player of the state of Maryland. Is Baltimore no longer in Maryland??

-Andrian Bowie was an All Met out of Montrose Christian.

-Braxton Dupree was a pretty solid player in Baltimore

-Greivis Vasquez and Eric Hayes were both All Mets.

-Gus Gilchrist was an All Met.

-Dave Neal, hard as it may be to believe, was an All Met.

-James Gist was a great high school player at Good Counsel and 2-time All ACC pick who wound up drafted by the Spurs.

-John Gilchrist was one of the best PGs ever to come out of the state of Virginia and became an All ACC point guard and ACC tournament MVP in 2004.

-Travis Garrison was a McDonalds All American coming out of Dematha.

-Chris McCray was a 2-time All Met.

-Steve Francis, who went to Montgomery Blair, was one of the best players in the country.

-Terrence Morris won a state title in Maryland and was a stud coming out of Frederick, MD

-Juan Dixon wasn't highly touted but coming out of Baltimore, he became 3-time All ACC player and first team All American.

-Laron Profit was a big time player coming out of Delaware. MD was the closest major conference school to where he played high school (for those that don't consider DE local)

-Keith Booth was a top flight recruit out of Baltimore who became an All American at Maryland.

-Joe Smith was not considered a top flight player out of Norfolk, VA but was good enough to win the Naismith National Player of the Year award and become the first player picked in the NBA draft.

-Johnny Rhodes, starting guard on 4 NCAA tournament teams, came from Dunbar.

-Duane Simpkins, was an All Met from Dematha, started 4 years for MD on 4 teams that went to the NCAA tournament.

-Exree Hipp was from DC, started all 4 years on 4 teams that went to the NCAA tournament

But yeah, Gary never gets guys from the Washington area. Never.

The claim that Gary "ignores the backyard" is the biggest joke of all time. It makes for good copy and gets some readers fired up, but the only problem is that it's a fantasy of Prisbell's and Yanda's and not reality.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 18, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Barno, your an idiot-they are talking the last few years and it is the top talent they are talking about not every All-Met. The results speak for themselves-Blown out by Clemson 29 points and 41 by Duke-Crushed by UNC and Gonzaga and even Georgetown beat them by 25-every top 25 program has dismantled them-and it is not Gary's Coaching. It is because he has limited talent on the floor. The roster has 7 mid major players on it-it is because of 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 recruiting classes not one ranked in 25 and 3 out of 4 not ranked in the top 50-that is your problem!! Maryland is a mid-major program right now -Morgan State even beat them-they have Morgan State talent-!!!

Posted by: Terptime | February 18, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Let's dissect the above comments by Terptime, shall we:

"Barno, your (sic) an idiot-they are talking the last few years"

False. And even if "they" are talking the last few years, 10 of the highly touted local recruits I named came after the 2002 championship season. This does not even include other local players like Dino Gregory, Will Bowers, etc., since they were not really standouts. Who is the idiot now?

"and it is the top talent they are talking about not every All-Met."

False. Actually, the graphic titled "Ignoring the Backyard" (seen here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/custom/2009/02/11/CU2009021103205.html) that accompanied the 3-part series specifically referred to every All-Met of the last 6 years, as well as "other players" that did not make All Met but were still standout players. Again, who is the idiot now?

"The results speak for themselves-Blown (sic) out by Clemson 29 points and 41 by Duke-Crushed (sic) by UNC and Gonzaga and even Georgetown beat them by 25"

Georgetown was a top 15 team at the time. They went on to knock of the number 1 team in the country in Connecticut. Again, who is the idiot now?

"every top 25 program has dismantled them"

False. We dismantled the number 5 team in the country, Michigan State, by 18 points. Again, who is the idiot now?

"...and it is not Gary's Coaching (sic). It is because he has limited talent on the floor. The roster has 7 mid major players on it-it is because of 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 recruiting classes (sic) not one ranked in 25 and 3 out of 4 not ranked in the top 50-that is your problem!!"

False. Actually, the 2006 class that consisted of Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne, Osby, and Burney was ranked in the top 25. And the 2007 class was certainly in the top 50. The 2005 class meanwhile consisted of 1 player, since you cannot have 4-5 players in every incoming class due to NCAA scholarship limits. Again, who is the idiot now?

"Maryland is a mid-major program right now"

False. Maryland is an ACC program that has held its own in the conference this year, evening their record at 5-5 prior to last night's game. Again, who is the idiot now?

"Morgan State even beat them-they have Morgan State talent-!!!"

False. By that asinine logic, Boston College has Harvard talent, since they lost to Harvard. And Duke has Michigan talent, since they lost to Michigan. And I suppose Kansas has UMass talent, because Kansas lost to UMass. I guess if you lose to a team, you must have the same talent as that team. But again, who is the idiot now?

Terptime, I'll give you credit for one thing: Your bumbling, incoherent comments should go down in Terrapin Insider history as the most insanely idiotic post since this blog's inception. Congratulations on achieving this comical measure of idiocy.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 19, 2009 1:41 AM | Report abuse

So, back on topic a little bit, it's nice to be able to read between the lines in those third-person quotes from Malone and see that he still sees some advantage in being on good terms with Gary. The power doesn't flow all the way in Malone's direction, at least for now.

Posted by: Lindemann777 | February 19, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Well, I think Barno must be the towel boy.

Seriously, Barno, your blather really takes away from this blog.

Start your own. Let us know where to find it.

Then we can stay away...

Posted by: petecard | February 19, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Barno, your facts are not welcome. Petecard HATES facts and statistics. He's old, that's how old people are.

Posted by: Lee26 | February 19, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox, Juan Dixon are not in the same elite NBA class. Their talents are just above average . With this kind of talents, Gary is able to squeeze every drop and manage to win a championship. I have to say he is a great coach with limited talented players.

Posted by: pthang | February 19, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Facts? Are you sure you want facts?

Fact: Gary is a great coach
Fact: Gary recruiting has been horrible in the last 4 years. You want us to give him credit for developing Joe Smith and others but then when a player doesn't develop it is the players fault. NO!!! You cant have it one way or another. Gus Gilchrist was a retread. We haven't had an Mcdonalds all american in the last 4 years at least. But the area always has 2 players who are from the Area.

If you go by potential since 2003 rivals has Gary having one class in the Top 2. That was 2003. In 2006 they had number 19.

They are the only team who has won a championship with so few good classes.

Now lets look at developing players for the next level.......D.J is the only one i can remember since the championship members. That isn't a record of developing talent in the last six years.

Gary is great coach. I don't want him fired but he has to do a better job of getting out there and bringing in the talent. He has to bend or they will break him. I dont want him to cheat or lick some 17 year old boot. But he has to be a salesman. Visit the kids. Make them sick of him. If they want a car or job or whatever then screw them but he has to get some of the kids.

Posted by: RawD | February 19, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Barno, you are a bigger idiot than I thought! Your argument is pointless! You obviously no nothing about basketball or recruiting! MD is a not a top 50 program and has limited talent right now and it is because of recruiting! Those are the facts! You can put out all your crappy facts and irrelevant stats but the results are on the court!! The reason they have won a few games in ACC is Gary Williams coaching! Enough said!

Posted by: Terptime | February 19, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I think if you compare the women's team to the men's it gives a realistic view of where expectations should be after winning a championship.

Posted by: RawD | February 19, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Lee26, Are you and Barno the same person?

If not, you could do a blog together.

What you guys call facts, most of us call selective and sometimes inaccurate examples. Then you both spin these "facts" with inane commentary.

Why not just deal with the bottom line: We are going to miss the tournament this year for the 4th time in 5 years.

Unacceptable.

Gary's responsibility.

Posted by: petecard | February 19, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Barno,

Of course Maryland has gotten some recruits from the area. It would be impossible not to. But the fact is that they have not been getting enough good players from the area or elsewhere for that matter.

You list of players reaches back into players who were recruited well over a decade ago. And the 10 you mentioned since 2002 were not all "highly touted." Just b/c a player makes all met does not make them highly touted. Dan Neal had a great HS career at O'Connell but he had NO other major offers other than Maryland.

Maryland has missed out on SO MUCH local talent over the last 5-6 years and the real frustrating part is that they were not really even in the ballgame with most of those recruits.

Without including the mega recruits like Carmelo Anthony, Rudy Gay, Kevin Durant, and Mike Beasely or the MANY other good recruits that Maryland missed on like Delonte West, Eddie Basden, Jeff Green, Joe Alexander, etc. over the last several years.

Take a look at 3 of the 4 top ranked teams in the country right now you will see:

UConn- Jerome Dyson from the DC and teams's 2nd leading scorer before he was injured

Pitt- Sam Young a two time MD state champ, Juan's little brother Jermaine

UNC- Ty Lawson from PG county, Marcus Ginyard, and Ed Davis.

Villanova (12th in the AP poll)- Scottie Reynolds and Donte Cunningham

Add in Tyrese Rice, BC's best player and Duke's Nolan Smith and you are talking about 10 guys right now contributing to programs having significantly better years than Maryland. And the Terps were barely on the radar for almost all of these guys.

To further the point, there are 19 area kids listed in the top 125 of the 07' and 08' recruiting classes. Maryland singed 1 of them (Mosley). That's just unacceptable when you are going to the NIT 4 out of 5 years.

Why is it so hard for the Gary supporters to admit that he has done a poor job recruiting? Its undeniable. Im an alum who is critical of Gary but will be the first to admit that he's an outstanding practice and game day coach. But recruiting is part of the job and he is failing miserably at that.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | February 19, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Guys you are wasting your time with Barno. He clearly played golf with Gary at least once. MD could miss the tourney 9 out of 10 years and he would still be talking about what a great job Gary is doing.

Posted by: restonhoops | February 19, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Maryland is two decent sized and talented big players from being a solid tournament team. Depending on how strong and good the bigs are/were, they would be able to beat any ACC team on any given night.

Most Assault players come from terrific high/prep school programs. The only way Malone and his staff is going to be able to influence one of these kids to make a choice favorable to a college you don't want to know about.

If Malone has some altruist who is truly helping to mentor a star player through a rough childhood and then looks to get a little something for himself for his trouble, I say let him look someplace else.

If that makes Maryland or any other school a lesser program, so be it.

On the other hand, is shoe company money in AAU sports a good thing in that it supplies kids with no direction an opportunity to get lots of gear and travel all over the United States from the time they are what 10 years old onward? Personally, I doubt it. I doubt that the lessons learned by these kids do anything to prepare them to met the challenges of living a constructive and productive life.

If there are stories to the contrary, short of the guys who end up making a living playing pro basketball (not just NBA) I'd like to read about it. I read a lot of stuff about basketball and have come across very few stories of a kid who participate on some shoe company driven AAU team, who struts into arenas giving away his shoes after the game because he's got lots more, making something of himself outside the world of basketball.

The AAU/shoe company alliance is an invidious one, and the shoe company/NCAA alliance is little better. In fact the latter created the former, and now the two are wed.

This is an NCAA issue and it should begin by the NCAA's forbidding all member schools from taking free product from shoe companies. Coaches can sell themselves if they want, but not their programs. That is where the corruption begins. Even a 10 year old can see the hypocracy in a college coach making hundreds of thousands of dollars off a shoe company deal, while his players are more like fashion models than athletes, but they do not receive a dime for all the jerseys bearing their names and numbers worn by the kids who then get bought by the same shoe companies through AAU altruists.

This is an NCAA issue, and that organization has the morales of a snail when it comes to the marketing and selling of sports.

Posted by: cohenra | February 19, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

In the past month, I have been angry, defensive, perturbed, compassionate, dejected, but after reading that Gary met with Curtis, you can add "weird" to the menu.

Because I need a good laugh - and because truth is stranger than fiction - how does this storyline get stranger? Debbie Yow and Gary have a love child?

(Not a good lunchtime image. My apologies to all.)

Posted by: info_stuporhighway | February 19, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

"Maryland is two decent sized and talented big players from being a solid tournament team. Depending on how strong and good the bigs are/were, they would be able to beat any ACC team on any given night."

"Most Assault players come from terrific high/prep school programs. The only way Malone and his staff is going to be able to influence one of these kids to make a choice favorable to a college you don't want to know about."

Sorry, I cant help myself. These 2 quotes from our friend, Cohenra who has stated foolishness such as "Maryland is NOT located in a recruiting hotbed" and that College Park is "the ugliest campus in the country."

1) I keep hearing that IF Maryland had another big or IF Maryland had 2 more players then . . . . Well, guess what THEY DON'T have any of those "ifs" which is why we're having this dicussion in the first place.

2) The second quote is dripping with ignorance and REALLY bothers me as someone who is involved with AAU. If some of these guys actually read the articles, the quotes from GW, or knew anything about recruiting they would know that AAU coaches now have tremendous influence on where kids go to school regardless of what type of HS program they come from. Like it or not, AAU gives kids the opportunity to play with talented teamates agaisnt the best competition in the country. AAU tournaments also allow college coaches to evaluate players against the best competition and in one trip. These are the two biggest reasons that AAU has become so influential in recruiting.

3) Everyone wants to allude to the "corruption" in AAU when they really dont know what they're talking about. As far as the situation with Gay, that was something that was not against the rules at the time and Maryland is guilty of doing something similar when it scheduled an exhibition game with a team associate with Caner-Medley. And the hiring of the asst coach connected w/ Beasley at K-State is something that has happened for decades. For years many high school coaches have gotten their foot in the door in college coaching by coming along with recruits.

4) 99% of AAU programs are clean. The people running these programs are rewarded helping kids get D1 scholarships and be successful. If you have enough good players then you can grow your program, get shoe sponsors that allow you to break even on your expenses, and for some maybe gain some contacts to get into college coaching. But the talk of pay for play and underhanded deals is WAY overblown. College coaches like Roy W, Coach K, Tom Crean, Jay Wright, Jamie Dixon, JTIII etc are all coaches who have great integrity and yet still manage to build good relationships w/ AAU programs and coaches. Gary Williams has failed to do so by his own choosing.


Posted by: VaTerp1 | February 19, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Great post, VaTerp1.

I was told an AAU coach has been trying to reach us. I encourage any and all feedback, questions and story ideas: Please email me at prisbelle@washpost.com. Steve Yanda can be reached at yandas@washpost.com. Thank you.

Posted by: Eric Prisbell | February 19, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I would also say this. Gary meeting w/ Malone is a good first step but Im interested to see where he goes from here. There are many other AAU programs in the area that produce multiple D1 players. Im not calling for Gary to lose his job but he needs to significantly upgrade his approach to recruiting.

Bottom line is that these numbers are unacceptable:

4 out of 5- Missed NCAAs the last 5 years
0- Times UMD has been past 2nd round since 02
10%- UMD's graduation rate while Gary supposedly targets "4 year guys"
1 out of 19- The number of area recruits ranked in Rivals top 125 the last 2 years that have signed with the Terps.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | February 19, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Eric, I appreciate your comment and the work you are doing. I truly believe that your piece is critical but fair and offering multiple perspectives.

I am associated with an AAU program (NOT DC Assault) and I will talk to our 2 main guys who run the show. Im sure that they'd be interested in speaking with you at length and I'll contact you through email.

Thanks again,

Posted by: VaTerp1 | February 19, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

OK, in response to the annoying but persistent query -- 'So, why do you think so few top-flight Washington area players wind up at Maryland?' -- we seem to have the following theories on offer:

Theory One -- Unscrupulous AAU types lure recruits away from their home area to exotic climes such as Storrs, Conn., and Syracuse, NY.

Theory Two -- Gary Williams has actually been incredibly successful at bringing the best local players to College Park (followed by a long list of local players and their respective achievements.) These successes more than cancel out the few recruits who went elsewhere.

Theory Three -- Gary's recruiting style turns off a lot of local players, parents, and coaches, particularly those that have an NBA-type future. Part of this may involve appearing to have little or no interest in actual personal contact with the above players, parents, and coaches.

Hmmm -- which do YOU find most persuasive?

Posted by: Samson151 | February 19, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

from the article: (quoting Curtis Malone)"He has turned it around this season a little bit with what he has on the court. And he doesn’t have much” talent."

That's sticking a fork in it.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 19, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Petecard,
Winning percentages, how the RPI is calculated, scores of games, recruiting rankings, these are all facts. Intellegent educated individuals make arguments by supporting their opinion with facts. In laymens terms it's called 'proving your point'.

Raw D,
"Fact: Gary recruiting has been horrible in the last 4 years. You want us to give him credit for developing Joe Smith and others but then when a player doesn't develop it is the players fault. NO!!! You cant have it one way or another. Gus Gilchrist was a retread. We haven't had an Mcdonalds all american in the last 4 years at least. But the area always has 2 players who are from the Area.

If you go by potential since 2003 rivals has Gary having one class in the Top 2. That was 2003. In 2006 they had number 19."

So your fact one is that his recruiting has been horrible in the last four years and then you show that 2 of the last 5 classes were ranked in the top 20. Good logically consistant point.

You guys are pissed MD is losing. I get it. I'm pissed too. Super pissed. But you have to look at these things objectively. You're pining for Beasley and Durant who won NOTHING the year they were in college. Did either of them even make it to the round of 16? Would you be happy if MD made the tourney last year and lost in round 2? Would James Gist be your hero then?

Posted by: Lee26 | February 19, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Why does Curtis talk about himself in third person?
He said "The things that have been said to Gary about Curtis, maybe he will feel differently once he knows Curtis.” Huh, what body is he in? Or is this pure self-salesmanship? Like an old fight promoter?

Posted by: Towards_Light | February 19, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

lee26:"You guys are pissed MD is losing."

I'm not. I'm actually impressed with how well they're playing (in spurts) given the lack of talent. I don't think Gary is should be fired because he loses some games. I'm of the school that thinks coaches often do their very best when the team is weakest. Props to Gary Williams.

lees26: "But you have to look at these things objectively. You're pining for Beasley and Durant who won NOTHING the year they were in college. Did either of them even make it to the round of 16?"

I'm guessing they didn't. But I suspect one (or possibly both) would have done exactly that if they'd gone to Maryland.

lee26: "Would you be happy if MD made the tourney last year and lost in round 2? Would James Gist be your hero then?"

I'm not seeing the relevance. James Gist was a fine player of the sort Gary Williams develops well. He's not in the Durant/ Beasley class (or the Anthony/Rudy Gay class, for that matter).

It isn't about whether we'd be happy. The issue is whether Gary could do something to improve the team -- which is his job, right? -- and for some reason, he isn't doing it.

Think of it as a performance eval. There's good points, and not so good points.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 19, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Eric,

I applaud your efforts for calling attention to Gary's recruiting efforts. They have certainly been lacking recently. However, contact with DC Assault's "CEO" Curtis Malone is mere window dressing. Malone makes his living arranging "deals" for blue-chippers to showcase their talents at major colleges. Everyone on the circuit knows that. Unless Gary decides to change his stance and "play that game", MD will never land a DC Assault player. MD could be a finalist for a player but something will always come up at the last minute re-directing the kid to another school. This just increases Malone's business base if other D1 programs think that MD is in the bidding also. However, I will say that most AAU programs/kids/families are not looking for deals. Those are the ones that Gary needs to go find. I don't question Gary's coaching ability or his desire to win but it is a widely known fact that Gary will put as little work into recruiting as possible. As a result, MD struggles in some seasons when you can turn on ESPN any given night and watch 5 DC area players who wanted to be Terps shine for other programs.

Posted by: Terps310 | February 19, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I see what you're saying Samson, and I think he is doing it by getting two solid big men and going after a top flight wing player. And if Beasley or Durant would've made a biger difference at MD than they did at K State and Texas then, gasp, Gary must have better talent to put around them or be a better coach than Barnes and Huggins. Gary clearly was under the impression Gilchrest would be here starting this year. He also didn't expect Burney to be crippled for 75% of the season. He also expected Kim to be able to play the entire year without all this other nonsense. Every team has bad luck every once in a while with injuries or transfers or whatever. The Terps didn't have it at all from 1999-2003 (did any starter miss any games due to injury during that time?) and they have been having it in spades he last 5 years. Things will turn around, maybe starting tomorrow...

And as for Gist I know he isn't Durant or Beasley. I guess I just don't really get everyonoe having such a hard on for guys that come for one year take your team to the round of 32 and then leave. You saw what happened to GW when they got a bunch of guys like that out of diploma mill high schools and now they are winning 7 games a year. I'll take 19-22 wins a year for four yeas over 23 23 7 and 10 any day of the week and 6 times on Sunday. People are spoiled and need to take a step back and see the forrest.

Posted by: Lee26 | February 20, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find this hilarious? "Malone said he and Williams did not talk about the Washington Post’s three-part series or about Williams’s comments about Malone."

yeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh right.......

I bet the phone call that set up the meeting went something like this. "Hey Gary, it's Curtis, Curtis Malone. That's some slam job the Post ran last week..." "Yeah they won't be having much access to the team anymore, the way they spun what I said about you..." "Yeah I know they twisted my stuff too and made us look like a bunch of puppeteer money grubbing leeches" "yeah man... want to grab a beer and clear the air?" "that'd be cool..."

then when Malone calls EP
"hey man it's Curtis, just wanted to let you know Gary and I got together to clear the air lasst week" "really? wow! golly gee did you talk about the article?" "uhhh, nah man of course not just basketball and stuff...."

Posted by: Lee26 | February 20, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

it gets old reading about all the whining and complaining statements made about coach williams and the program. they make the dance and surprise all you so-called terp fans. i remember the bob wade era, do you.

Posted by: nsumduw4 | February 22, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

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