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Missed Shots

Over the past two weeks, Eric Prisbell and I, with help from several other Post reporters, looked into the Maryland men's basketball program's recruiting patterns since its most recent defining moment -- the 2002 national championship.

We spoke to more than 50 sources -- from former recruits that Maryland pursued to family members of said recruits to high school and AAU coaches in and around the area. What we found was that the reasons for Maryland's downturn in recruiting are many and diverse. After consulting with editors, Prisbell and I put together a three-part series.

Part one looks at the role recruiting missteps have played in the program's decline since 2002. Part two looks at Gary Williams' philosophy on dealing with the constantly evolving AAU world. Part three looks at how recent disappointing seasons has altered Williams' tolerance for recruiting players with sordid pasts, players he would not have gone after 10 years ago.

Each day, I'll post a poll question co-inciding with each part's topic. On Friday afternoon, I'll post most of the hour-long interview we recently conducted with Williams.

Eric and I welcome any and all feedback that you might have to this series. Feel free to email us (yandas@washpost.com and prisbelle@washpost.com) or post questions in the comment section below. We'll do our best to answer all your queries.

Here is today's poll:

By Steve Yanda  |  February 11, 2009; 3:45 PM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  
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Comments

This subject has been drug through the mud by now, I think every major publication now has written an article on Gary williams and recruiting leave it alone

Posted by: fzuylen | February 11, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Does the 2004 ACC title not count for anything? I'd say that was a pretty big moment.

Also, anyone else hear that Terp recruit Jordan Williams scored 47 points last night AND shattered a backboard?

Posted by: fussy | February 11, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

This horse has been beaten to death, and taken to the glue factory. Now you are beating the glue. Yawn...

Posted by: shrshot | February 11, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The bad years at MD are better than the good years at 75% of the other schools. Get a clue.

Team
2007-2008 2006-2007 2005-2006 2004-2005 Total Rank
North Carolina .875 .688 .750 .875 .797 1
Duke .813 .500 .875 .688 .719 2
Boston College .250 .625 .688 .521 3
Maryland .500 .625 .500 .438 .516 4
Virginia Tech .563 .625 .250 .500 .484 5
Clemson .625 .438 .438 .313 .453 6
Wake Forest .438 .313 .188 .813 .438 7
Florida State .438 .438 .563 .250 .422 8
Georgia Tech .438 .500 .250 .500 .422 8
Virginia .313 .688 .438 .250 .422 8
Miami (FL) .500 .250 .438 .438 .406 11
North Carolina State .250 .313 .625 .438 .406 11

And 3, yes I said 3, huge recruits coming in next year. And this team is a small run away from making the tournament. That peice was a garbage smear job. You can write a peice like that on every school in the country, about "the one that got away"...

Posted by: Lee26 | February 11, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Steve Yanda must go, it's that simple. This kid is the new Jason La Canfora at the Post, out to do anything he can to damage and embarrass the team he is assigned to cover. The only difference is La Canfora is in his 30s and Yanda is still in puberty.

It's disappointing that Eric Prisbell is along for the ride during what has unquestionably been the most lopsided anti-Terps coverage in the Post this decade. Their handling of the Gary Williams/Debbie Yow coverage was not only unethical, but beyond the pale.

Steve Yanda, who is a 22 year old kid who just graduated from Marquette last year, has no business being assigned the Terps beat reporter and the Post is going to lose readers if they keep this kid on the beat. Yanda is clearly out to make a name for himself by stirring up controversy, but the Post will lose credibility and readers if they keep him on the beat much longer.

End rant.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 11, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"I AM NOT HERE TO RECRUIT I AM HERE TO WIN GAMES" Yes you are here to win games, but you need too recruit and bond with the parents of the prospect's what's so hard about that if you don't think that's important then coach you need to step down end of story, in this world of aau ball and pandering to these nba wannabe's they might find it refreshing to talk to an old school guy like you coach, then again if you think that's beneath you then i'm sure AD Yow cant arrange a lovely parting gift for you.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 11, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Complete GARBAGE article. You guys at the Post seem to want to make a career out of trashing the terps at absolutly every opportunity. Move on already or get on board. We need to look forward not back. Typical blame game washington DC mentality. Would NEVER happen in North Carolina.

Posted by: MDFan | February 11, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, this article is slanted journalism. Yow said she supports Gary a week ago...why do you want to manufacture a story ? Every school missed on Joe Alexander and Boone- if he signed them you would have been critical of him signing low ranked recruits. Why did you fail to mention that Jeff Green was denied admission to MD but admitted to Georgetown. Why did you fail to mention Mosely said he was attracted to MD because of Coach Williams. Did Georgetown sign those same players you talked about ? I am so sick of articles like this by reporters trying to make a name for themselves.

Posted by: Bib1 | February 11, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

After that incoherent rant, you obviously missed a dose or two of your mood stabilizer. I suggest you call your doctor now and get your prescription refilled.

Apparently you only want a state-run press in which reporters only cover the "positive" side of the news. If that were the case, the Post would not be a newspaper, but a marketing firm.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | February 11, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Post should consult Gary Williams before hiring a reporter? Then of course, each story should be censored by Gary Williams to make sure the reporter is painting the basketball program in the best light.

You guys don't want impartial journalism, you want public relations.

If you have such a distaste for the Post, go visit the Washington Post instead.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | February 11, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Washington Times

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | February 11, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Impartial journalism would also talk to the players who decided to go to Maryland and find out how they were recruited and what they liked about it.

Posted by: Oblio | February 11, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I'll say it again.

The bad years at MD are better than the good years at 75% of the other schools. Get a clue.

Team
2007-2008 2006-2007 2005-2006 2004-2005 Total Rank
North Carolina .875 .688 .750 .875 .797 1
Duke .813 .500 .875 .688 .719 2
Boston College .250 .625 .688 .521 3
Maryland .500 .625 .500 .438 .516 4
Virginia Tech .563 .625 .250 .500 .484 5
Clemson .625 .438 .438 .313 .453 6
Wake Forest .438 .313 .188 .813 .438 7
Florida State .438 .438 .563 .250 .422 8
Georgia Tech .438 .500 .250 .500 .422 8
Virginia .313 .688 .438 .250 .422 8
Miami (FL) .500 .250 .438 .438 .406 11
North Carolina State .250 .313 .625 .438 .406 11

GET

A

CLUE

Posted by: Lee26 | February 11, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Incredibly disappointing article from you guys. Hindsight is 20/20, yet you proceed to handpick several recruits that happened to work out well for other schools that MD should have recruited? Its pretty easy to do that after the fact. Nice job picking apart a recruiting class that at the time was rated one of the best in the country, and Gary's best since his arrival at MD.

Posted by: FeartheNoodle | February 11, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

If the question is, why didn't Maryland go after good players who wanted to go there, as opposed to the players they got, interviewing players they DID recruit would be irrelevant, because the issue is NOT that these players didn't want to go to MD -- they did, MD did not want them.

People who point out that certain players also did not go to Georgetown overlook Georgetown's recent success. The players Georgetown got led to success. The players MD got did not.

The fact is, though, it IS an imperfect science. I'll never forget Jim Calhoun's rant when asked how Ryan Gomes got away, and he ran off a list of all the great players he HAD recruited (it ended with, so-and-so who went to the NBA, "he's not bad"). Some of these kids want their a$$ kissed and Gary's just not going to do that.

If you read the article suspending judgment -- you read it without a sense that there is an anti-MD agenda -- I think it is fair. MD had bad luck in deciding who to go after and who to pick. That's not necessarily anyone's fault, since, as the reader above pointed out, NO ONE picked up on Deron Williams' ability.

Posted by: gbooksdc | February 11, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Yamada, any reason why you didn't mention Dante Cunningham - Villanova's top rebounder and second leading scorer - in today's article? He was TWP's All-Met POY in '05 and averaged 20 points, 13 rebounds and four blocked shots per game in leading Potomac (Md.) to a state title and perfect (27-0) that season. I understand that he wanted to play in the ACC.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 11, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Well, It sounds like to me that Gary had his guys set, and instead of bringing in as many players as possible, he wanted to let them be on their way. No sense promising players PT and benching them because u had too many... let's put it this way. following MD in the 80's and 90's was tough. But after taking us to the promise land, let's not throw him to the wolves so fast. Let's give the coach the benefit of the doubt that he is still learning from his recruiting pasts. I mean, no one recruited Juan Dixon heavily did they? Lonny Baxter? And look what happened to the team with them? How bout the players? Aren't they accountable? Gary doesn't miss the free throws. he doesn't guard opponents. He can't play for the players. He can only get them ready to play. And it's the players that have to make plays and execute. And they HAVE NOT DONE THAT RECENTLY well enough to win. But I think there is a LOT of potential with the players that he has at this moment. but dag gone. really? Deron Williams, Josh Boone, and Joe Alexander, and Scottie Reynolds might have been at MD? hmmm.... wow...

Posted by: doeshin | February 11, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how the 2004 ACC Championship can be left out, that just shows everyone how slanted the journalism was.

Awful article, typical Washington media trying to round up a lynch mob.

Posted by: andyrad28 | February 11, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

My apologies Mr. Yanda for mucking up your name.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 11, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Gary Williams exhibits classic symptons of alcoholism. Deny...blame...deny...

He's a laissez-faire recruiter because it takes away time at Happy Hour. Why call a recruit's parent when you can drink a cold one? If he could get off the juice, I'd think you'd see a resurgence in the program.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | February 11, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Who is the idiot that keeps referring to the 2004 NCAA championship?????

Am I missing the sarcasm in thet comment or are we really dealing with an idiot?

Posted by: petecard | February 11, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The true measure to see if recruiting has really dropped off is to compare and contrast recruiting by GARY leading up to the National Championship and the recruiting by GARY after the championship.

Has he really changed his approach since 2002? Was he constantly visiting recruits, contacting them, getting close with parents, grandparents, etc. and then after the championship all that went away?

Are we just seeing the byproduct simply of turnover among his staff (and the staff's ability to recruit or having to re-establish relationships)?

Is there a luck factor when comparing the before and after? In other words, is it luck that Juan Dixon/Lonnie Baxter turned out to be as good as they were and a recruit or two as highly touted as Mike Jones or Travis Garrison end up being no more than role players?

With that said, the buck stops with Gary and as the head of the program the responsibility is his to ensure recruiting is as good as it can be. I don't think he see's it that way and that's flat out wrong. No coach can succeed without having enough talent and right now we are a long ways away from the top.

Posted by: DBriles10 | February 11, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

How about an article backing up the assertion that all coaches are involved in recruiting...

These articles are trash meant to defame the Maryland athletics department and the outstanding basketball program.

The fact is the ACC is a very competitive conference. Several teams are usually in the top 20. So it stands to reason that not all of the teams (including MD) will be the best every four years. At the moment MD lacks the bigs necessary to complete against the best teams. Maybe next year they will be able to recruit a few...

Tell me -- did the Post lose VIP seats at the stadium? I'm getting tired of reading negative articles that lack journalistic integrity. The Post needs a new Sports editor -- preferably one who is actually from the area and is a fan of the local teams.

Posted by: siris | February 11, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I think this article is a bunch of BS. Maryland hasn't been as good as they were from the mid 90's to the early 2000's. But they haven't stunk up the joint, either. I fail to see why these reporters keep harping on this. I agree with the other comments. This is just retarded journalism. I'm glad to hear the Washington Post is struggling when they have bozos like this around on staff.

Posted by: al_kohaulic | February 11, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Knew Gary at UMD in 1965-67, he was a good guy then & still is.
UMD has its roots in being a blue-collar state school. Not a recruiting hot-bed for high school all-stars but a place where a good athlete could become great and walk-ons had a chance to play. I'm glad there is still some of that alive at UMD.

Gary is ultra-competitive & a coach who knows how to get the most out of his players. You have to have a thick skin to play for him & compete against him, even in golf.

Quotes from kids who were "hurt" because they werent recruited is like asking your former mother-in-law for a reference.

Please go build your career on someone else's back who deserves it. Gary doesnt.

Posted by: mjrawl | February 11, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The. Horse. Is. Dead.

Posted by: wwkayaker | February 11, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Where's the Washington Post article about JT3 being a horrible game day coach who's season is tanking with supposedly better recruits than Gary??? Georgetown was a pre-season Top 10 team that will require a huge finish to make the NCAA tournament. And guess what, the Terps have a better record. Maybe Georgetown was better in November, but the Terps are better now. JT3 has wasted so much talent at Georgetown. That guy should be fired.

Posted by: TerpFan2001 | February 11, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

This does sound a little like a hatchet job. You quote people who weren't recruited heavily by Maryland saying that Maryland didn't recruit them heavily. It shouldn't be surprising they would say that. Comparing the people MD did recruit against those you think they ought to have recruited isn't really a fair comparison either. I think the case of Gilchrist is a good example of this. MD chose to go after Gilchrist and they got him. That he led the team to the ACC title is excellent evidence that going after him was justified. Unfortunately, in the end it didn't work out. Its almost absurd to suggest that Williams should have known that some other recruit would have been better for the program given that Gilchrist could very well have worked out well. Your choice of support feels like cherry picking and gives this article a false authenticity. It is almost like you are arguing that because they haven't done as well as they've done in that past, it proves that they haven't done well because Gary hasn't recruited well, which isn't a logically valid argument and puts the cart well before the horse. In other words, you guys wasted your own time gathering a lot of "evidence" that doesn't support anything at all really, except that you found some people who play basketball who didn't feel like Gary loved them. This article is sub par. Also, the poll is a joke. Do you know anything about bias?

Posted by: Patera | February 11, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

"Next we're asking people who got turned down for a job what they think of the guy that interviewed them."

Brilliant and balanced guys. Spectacular journalism. Its actually a compliment to Gary that an 8-8 ACC season is seen as a total disaster-even Joe Gibbs had a couple bad seasons fellas. Get a clue.

Next up-the Post interviews the parents of children who didn't get into Harvard.

Posted by: settleten | February 11, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Gary Williams exhibits classic symptons of alcoholism. Deny...blame...deny...

He's a laissez-faire recruiter because it takes away time at Happy Hour. Why call a recruit's parent when you can drink a cold one? If he could get off the juice, I'd think you'd see a resurgence in the program.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | February 11, 2009 5:11 PM

First off the fact that this comment has been allowed to stay posted for 3+ hours speaks volumes about the ingrerity of this format and how the Post polices this site.

That said -- the article is misinformed, slanted, and carries an agenda. Funny how to of the incoming 2009 freshmen Padgett and Willaims had huge games last night but don't warrant a mention...

An ACC tournament championship is summarily dismissed. But unfortunatley objectivity and thorough research is lacking in most of the work in the Post these days.

Its no wonder subscriptions are dropping like a rock.

Posted by: curlybyrd | February 11, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Leave Gary alone. When GW's own boss publically says that he has her full support, I find it interesting that he is 'likely to be under pressure to leave after the season'.

We had two highly regarded big men decommit this year (Terrence Jennings and Gus Gilchrest). Braxton Dupree was highly regarded coming out of HS. Can GW get any credit for the two highly prized recruits that are coming in next year??

We do not have 50 scholarships a year to throw around. GW picks his guys and goes after them. All of this hindsight action could be applied to the other 300 D-1 basketball programs that did not land these kids either.

Lets show the man some respect! He is doing a great job coaching this years team.

Posted by: Tim584 | February 11, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of the post, horrible sports page and getting worse. THis article is so negatively slanted it can't be taken seriously.

With crap like this the post will die a quicker death and none should morn.

No terp fans should read this paper.

Posted by: tensjed | February 11, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Gary must have dirty pictures of Yow or something. How he has kept his job, I'll never know. Gary must go!!!

Posted by: mateo_md | February 11, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

1. He was there for Maryland when times were really BAD!

2.He gave us an NCAA Championship!

3. DON'T FORGET IT!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | February 11, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Way to pile on fellas, where have I read this recently hmmmm. WHy would anyone care what Joe Alexander and Josh Boone think, considering that both came out of no where to be stars and shock the hoops world. Oh, wait a minute, you are playing Monday morning quarterback...balanced reporting, great investigative skills, no agenda, everything we've come to expect from the Post - NOT!

Posted by: jessica22 | February 11, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

It has gotten to the point where you almost want Maryland to lose badly so they get this slacker out of town.

Another 7-9, 8-8 ACC record is only going to perpetuate this mess and the Gary-lovers will keep maintaining that we should all just wait until next year or the following year or....2035

Time to fish or cut bait. Make the tourney or take a walk!

Posted by: TerpAndy | February 11, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Poor Gary Williams and his two million plus a year contract, at least until 2012 or so. If people are still willing to pay 50+ dollars to watch NIT basketball, I guess he has earned it.

Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 11, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Steve Yanda is a cancer to the Washington Post sports page. I wouldn't be suprised if he ends up like former Terps beat reporter Josh Barr, covering local girls high school sports.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 11, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

This is just my 2 cents:

Prisbell and Yanda have been dying to attract more readers to this blog. They've been dying to attract more comments under their entries. And they've been dying to get more web hits. Then they saw the kind of attention the Debbie vs Gary pseudo-controversy was getting and hyped that story up as much as possible, but after last week's Debbie/Gary dual press conference, that story pretty much lost its legs. So they had to try something else to get attention...and well, this is exactly the kind of story that will attract readers.

It's really sad that a quality reporter like Prisbell has decided it's in the best interest for his career to team up with an immature, know-it-all child like Steve Yanda, stirring up as much controversy as they possibly can to advance their careers. I used to have the utmost respect for Prisbell's coverage. He used to be an objective reporter. But he's got to divorce himself from Yanda or its just going to get worse.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 11, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps saying that this is beating a dead horse. I guess Terps fans should be happy with the National Championship and after that the coaches job is done until he feels like retiring. I suppose people are now happy to see the Terps in the NIT. Get ready cause that's where the team is headed this year if we're lucky. this article brings out the fact that college coaches work their butts off and recruit. Gary doesn't. the truth is hard to take sometimes. Never the less it is still the truth.

Posted by: boe691 | February 11, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Does the post get a hard on at any chance to take a shot at MD? It is this way across sports. For football now I am almost convinced I am reading a Blacksburg paper.

Posted by: jt082005 | February 11, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I will always read the Post but this freaking witch hunt is ENOUGH. Picking and choosing data to support your conclusion does not Bernstein and Woodward make.

Let's go through the Hot Boxes. Six years after a National Championship, only because it's been six years since the Terps' NC, rather shades the following:

UNC is on their 4th coach since then,
so is Arkansas,
UCLA sold their soul to get renowned saint Jim Harrick, then ran off Steve Lavin for no good reason,
Kentucky ran off Tubby for an even worse reason in Billy Gillespie (!),

Let's see what you got: the All-Met list is a bunch of kids whom all had excellent seasons, and read this part aloud and slowly, should NOT be taken as a projection of an athlete's collegiate success. NOT. EVER. So let's count the kids in the box that made an impact on the collegiate level:

Kleiza. Gay, Green, Young. Beasley, Echefu (only lately), Ginyard, Sapp. Durant, Reynolds. The list of kids who DIDN'T make the All-Met list is more consistently impressive than the kids who did. I don't mean to diminish these kids because they didn't ask to part of the Post's Circus Spectacle of Gary Williams, but it goes back to the point that recruiting is a crapshoot.

Posted by: info_stuporhighway | February 11, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Michael Beasley
Donte Greene
Austin Freeman
Kevin Durant
Ty Lawson
Rudy Gay

All of these guys are from the state of MD originally, just to name a few. It sucks to have your home state produce so much talent and to watch them all play elsewhere. I don't care if he doesn't get all of them, but Gary has to get some of these guys. I don't know how each situation played out, but you cannot let all of this talent get away

Posted by: MMMirsky | February 11, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I have never been much of a Gary fan; however, it never ceases to amaze me how the WP just loves to bash the crap out of UMD every chance they get. We NEVER see these types of negative articles on VT, UVA or Georgetown no matter what. Why is that WP? It certainly isn't because those schools have no issues or that all their players are choirboys.

Posted by: Pearl77 | February 11, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

cant wait for part 2 of this garbage tomorrow, the aau angle. certainly wont mention any of the hundreds of scum coaches who line the pockets of aau coaches. no, wouldnt dare do that, got to keep that hush hush. just talk about gary's failings in that area as well. just a joke of an article. the washington post should be ashamed

Posted by: kidman | February 11, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

UVA.....what about how bad they are. All these ridiculous "hoos" fans, but has the Post ever ripped their coach. They got Singletary, and how many NCAA tournaments did they make.-0-
This type of writing is getting tiring. What about Larenaga, how good are his recruits a few years after a Final Four. NOBODY RECRUITED STEPHON CURRY except Greenberg, and he wanted to play in the ACC. What about Seth Greeberg's failure to close him on Va tech.
WHy did G-town lose 3, count them 3, already enrolled players?? JT3 can do no wrong, but he makes huge mistakes also.

Do a fair analysis of the local 11, and unfortunately, allmost everyone is down this year!!!

Posted by: bmdugan | February 11, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Gary is lazy, has a poor attitude and exhibits disgraceful behavior in many aspects. The WP often takes shot at MD generally and that is sad. However - the truth is sometimes painful and there are issues in the program. I would like to see you boost a positive coach like Ralph Friedgen to show a bit of even behavior. 8-5 year ( a bit of a downer) and the number 26 class in the nation is damn good. Give him some props

Posted by: leed1911 | February 11, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Gary deserves better than what is being portrayed by the lamestream media lately. The last article mentioned 2 guys I never heard of as examples of who Gary missed on in recruiting. One of whom was offered a scholarship but apparently didn't like the enthusiasm in which it was offered to him. Face it, if he wanted to be a Maryland Terrapin he would have been.
Gary is a great coach. Because of that and what he is, (he is Maryland Basketball) he more than deserves all the time he needs to improve the recruiting especially considering the turnover of strong recruiting assistants.
Gary is loved. Gary is our Guy. The longer he is here the better it is for the Maryland Basketball Program. It looks like it may be greatly improved next year with the 2 great guys he has coming in. Admittedly, the teams have not gone on to be perenial March Madness threats by any means. But we are LUCKY to have Gary.

Posted by: MDterpfan | February 11, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Thought this was a brilliant post, for all you fanboys who simply can't see through the Gary fog ...

"Perhaps the Post should consult Gary Williams before hiring a reporter? Then of course, each story should be censored by Gary Williams to make sure the reporter is painting the basketball program in the best light.

You guys don't want impartial journalism, you want public relations.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | February 11, 2009 4:42 PM "

Posted by: riggonripken | February 12, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I think people are missing the point of this article.

I'm a huge Gary Williams fan, and I actually went to UMD. The guy is an amazing coach, but terrible as a recruiter for whatever reason. When was the last time we had a take over the game type player? Even in our championship run in '02 the team was a bunch of overlooked players who exceeded their potential and did something special.

Despite being in a great area, having some of the best talent in the country growing up around us, as well as a historic program, we fail to get top name talent, and instead get mcdonalds americans like mike jones who nobody wants.

I hate Duke, but they have to have the best scouting in the country, they nail the best players year after year when we fail to get even a couple of stars.

Gary is a hell of a coach, and I give him props for trying to maintain ethics in recruiting but until he can find a way to identify and score better talent while still maintaining his ethics, we are going to continue forward in mediocrity.

Posted by: insanity999 | February 12, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

No question Gary has to take some responsibility and most folks won't argue that point, let alone Gary. But your examples are horrible i.e. Williams,Boone, Alexander etc., ahh but so easy to second guess...Williams over Gilchrest - don't think so. Jeff Green, barely made it out of HS to qualify for a GED - not a problem for GTown though..hmmmm wonder why??? Level playing field, don't think so...academic standards a possible issue for the aforementioned...guess we'll never know based on this series. Local AAU scum worth mentioning...of course not. Let's just pile on instead of looking at the big pic. GW needs to do better, yes, help on the horizon, yes. One can only hope for more substance in the upcoming articles...but I digress.

Posted by: gLo1 | February 12, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Better fire Roy Williams, Tom Izzo, and Coach K too. Look at all the top 50 recruits that they lost the past 3 years that had them on their short list or were from their home state. LOOK AT THE ONES THAT GOT AWAY!!!!!

UNC
Greg Oden
Kevin Durant
Mike Conley
Ty Walker (in state)
Courtney Fortson (in state)
Tracy Smith (in state)
Davon Jefferson (in state)
Doneal Mack (in state)

Michigan State
Greg Oden
Mike Conley
Blake Griffin
Corperryale Harris (in state)
Darquavis Tucker (in state)
Ramar Smith (in state)
DeShawn Sims (in state)

Duke
Brandon Wright
Eric Gordon
Greg Monroe
Ty Walker (in state)
Courtney Fortson (in state)
Tracy Smith (in state)
Davon Jefferson (in state)
Doneal Mack (in state)

Morons.

Posted by: Lee26 | February 12, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

While I agree that it's unfair to look back at the ones that got away and say. "Ah-Ha!", there's also no denying that the results over the past five years have been poor in relation to other former National Champions. That's not slanted journalism, it's a fact. Just Terp's bad luck or is it a bigger problem than that? I think the bad luck excuse can only last so long. What the article didn't cover was the effect Gary's personality has on recruiting. Even a modest amount of due dilligence on the part of a recruit would expose him to Gary's profanity-laced tirades during game day. When compared with Roy "Father-Knows-Best" Williams, who would you feel more comfortable committing to play for? I am not happy with what Gary is doing with the program but I'm not calling for his job. I would prefer he examine what it is he is doing wrong and work toward correcting it. And if you want Gary to step down, is there really someone else better out there that can maintain stability and bring the Terps back into the Sweet Sixteen consistently?

Posted by: reverb | February 12, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I am a UMD Alum whose only wish is for Gary to leave on his own terms. I believe he has earned it, deservedly.

He also deserves the criticism that comes his way. As painful as it was to read the article, it was important to me to know what is truly going on in the bowels of the cable-box (Comcast).

However, to be fair, and I hope parts II & III will be fair, Maryland Basketball, did choose not to play the AAU parlor games. And that was a HUGE reason that UMD lost out on Rudy Gay. Somehow, that little nugget never quite makes it to print.

Is it tough watching other schools picking up local HS recruits? Sure! But we also snagged Chris Wilcox and Matt Kovarik away from Tobacco Road, Byron Mouton from Kentucky, Strawberry and Ibekwe off the West Coast and Steve Blake who all but begged to play for NC State. Does that make us a national recruiting powerhouse? No, but Terrapin faithful would sure like to get there.

Ultimately, all of this is coming out, NOT because of Gary's recruiting. It is coming out as result of a painfully embarrassing loss at Cameron. Gary's recruiting is the scapegoat du jour. Does griping about recruiting help soothe TerpNation's pain? Maybe. Will it make it go away? No. Are they connected? Very much so. You see, what's going on here is the unprocessed desire to embarrass Duke on AND off the court the way they periodically do to us.

Like I said, Gary may recruit to the beat of a different drummer, and it may have cost us a few warm bodies, for which we have the right to be restless about. But for the love of mike, please look at all the facts.

Gary can't sneak up on unknowns anymore. The internet age makes it impossible to find a Joe Smith or a Steve Francis that doesn't have an AAU guy booking his seat in the NBA Draft greenroom before he's even learned to tie his shoelaces properly.

The ACC overexpanded, for which we should have adapted. This at the same time that the NCAA decided that the 6th best team in a power conference doesn't quite pull like the 3rd best team at a mid major. That's fine; tourney berths ought to be earned.

I am one of those rare Terp fans that says that for too long we got away with padded schedules and mediocre records. 8-8 in a 12 team league may seem like an accomplishment to some, but to me, it's still a .500 record and a so-so bowl game.

Coin-flip records are for coin-flip programs which will get you coin-flip recruits.

Posted by: mabkhar | February 12, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

this article is nothing more than a resume builder for the authors. It is easy to write a critical piece when your sources are nothing more than "rejected dates" and former "mother-in laws" as references, as one reader so aptly put it in an earlier post.

I think the Post has really shown what a RAG it is and its staff is not much better. What happened to the other major schools in the area? Why not report on those as well and level the playing field. I guarantee they all have less than perfect situations in all aspects of their program that could be more interesting than bashing on the same program year after year. In fact, I would love to hear the dirt on JT and even JT's old man! Sure there is enough to write an even longer article.

Gary isn't perfect but he has been a huge asset to the MD program. If he runs such a poor program, then why is it that his training ground has yielded so many head coaches. It is unfortunate for the program that they were given such terrific opportunities- opportunities that only come with proven results in their current programs.

It is also very unfortunate that the Post can't find anything better than to dig up the same topic year after year. Not alot of creativity laying around there, is there? Seems like the sports desk needs some new blood!

Posted by: terpsfan84 | February 12, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Oh, any why would I want to vote in your ridiculous poll? Dreamt that up as an afterthought to your "brilliant" piece journalism. You guys really ought to find another line of work, I hear the dump is hiring- you would fit RIGHT IN!!!!

Posted by: terpsfan84 | February 12, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

who cares what 75% of other schools do. This is MD- we have our own traditions which Gary helped forge. But now, he's lowered his standards and it has reflected on the product he puts on the floor. Gary can't live in the past. Yes, we won the Nat Champ in 02, does that mean we stop competing? Gary has elevated this program to much higher standards, can he also maintain those standards? Sure doesn't look like he can...

Posted by: luvdc808 | February 12, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

what can not be overlooked is the turnover of the assistants. (billy, jimmy, double d & even kurtis schultz).

this has led to a decline in the DEVELOPMENT of the players recruited. this is an important portion of the decline of the program.

Posted by: terpcentral1 | February 12, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

This is a very good article and I am looking forward to the rest of the series.

Maryland's basketball program should be among the top progams in the country, year in and year out. That doesn't mean that we have to make the tournament every year. It does mean that we should make it most of the time. For the past 5 years we haven't.

Gary Williams bears responsibility. He has had 20 years as head coach and, in my view his reign should end ASAP.

GW does not seem to be running all aspects of the program (especially recruiting) with the hands-on entusiasm that is required.

Is he resting on the "glory" of the national championship?...I think the answer is "yes."

Does he want to win?..."yes."

Is he doing what needs to be done to be on top and stay on top?..."NO!"

The idea, expressed by several other comments, that one national championship gives him, effectively, "tenure" is ridiculous.

Posted by: petecard | February 12, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Other local players Gary missed on:
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Rudy Gay

The list goes on and on and on. Gary is the worst recruiter in the NCAA, numbers don't lie. To say "everyone missed on Boone, Hamilton, etc.." is total nonsense. Boone went to UConn, a team with a far great record of winning than UMD. Furthermore, it should not be discounted that many local players cite Gary as the main reason why they DON'T sign with MD.
Gary's greatest success came at a time when the top HS recruits went straight to the NBA. This allowed Gary to build teams with JuCo talent and role players to suit his system. Gary is one of the finest floor coaches in the NCAA and those final four teams were the perfect representation of his style and ethic.
But HS players are no longer allowed to go straight to the NBA, we live in the era of 1-and-done stars, and Gary seems unwilling to recruit anyone he doesn't think will give him 3-4 years. As such, he misses out on the best local talent, regardless of whether his recruiting classes rank high.
If Gary is unwilling to change, he should be fired. plain and simple.

Posted by: nihitpro | February 12, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I love Gary for what he's done BUT- when your team leads by double digits in the second half and you lose...that is bad coaching. This has been going on for 4 years.

Posted by: luvdc808 | February 12, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

It's time for MD to finally let Gary the Screamer go his merry way. This whole bit about Gary saving MD basketball from oblivion is baloney...if the Twerps had hired Morgan Wooten, we'd be talking about 2 or 3 National Championships instead of one way back in 2002. I blame Juan Dixon...if not for him, Gary would have been gone a long time ago...HA! We used to talk about MD becoming the UCLA of the East...remember those days? Now we talk about Grevis telling the MD student body to "Go to Hell," and whether MD is gonna get yet another cherished NIT bid. Please!

Posted by: OddMan1 | February 12, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Facts are much more useful than fiction. If you disagree I think the floundering RNC is hiring and would love to here from you.

The bad years at MD are better than the good years at 75% of the other schools. Get a clue.

Team
2007-2008 2006-2007 2005-2006 2004-2005 Total Rank
North Carolina .875 .688 .750 .875 .797 1
Duke .813 .500 .875 .688 .719 2
Boston College .250 .625 .688 .521 3
Maryland .500 .625 .500 .438 .516 4
Virginia Tech .563 .625 .250 .500 .484 5
Clemson .625 .438 .438 .313 .453 6
Wake Forest .438 .313 .188 .813 .438 7
Florida State .438 .438 .563 .250 .422 8
Georgia Tech .438 .500 .250 .500 .422 8
Virginia .313 .688 .438 .250 .422 8
Miami (FL) .500 .250 .438 .438 .406 11
North Carolina State .250 .313 .625 .438 .406 11

Better fire Roy Williams, Tom Izzo, and Coach K too. Look at all the top 50 recruits that they lost the past 3 years that had them on their short list or were from their home state. LOOK AT THE ONES THAT GOT AWAY!!!!!

UNC
Greg Oden
Kevin Durant
Mike Conley
Ty Walker (in state)
Courtney Fortson (in state)
Tracy Smith (in state)
Davon Jefferson (in state)
Doneal Mack (in state)

Michigan State
Greg Oden
Mike Conley
Blake Griffin
Corperryale Harris (in state)
Darquavis Tucker (in state)
Ramar Smith (in state)
DeShawn Sims (in state)

Duke
Brandon Wright
Eric Gordon
Greg Monroe
Ty Walker (in state)
Courtney Fortson (in state)
Tracy Smith (in state)
Davon Jefferson (in state)
Doneal Mack (in state)

The article is slanted and is not supported by facts. The ACC has been shafted ever since expansion when it comes to the selection committee. Somehow adding three BCS teams Miami, VT, and BC (teams that have won 47% of their ACC games) watered down the conference? Of course the Big East expanding to 25 teams by adding 3rd year D 1 programs and mid majors didn't? Huh? And year in and year out the ACC beats down the Big Ten in November and then the Big Ten gets more bids in March, what? MD has missed out on one if not two bids due to this nonsense and had bad luck with injuries and academics and NCAA rulings. And has a good (possibly great if Stephenson works out) class coming in next year is losing basically nobody and still has a chance to dance this year. It's not 2001-2002 but talking abot running Gary out of twon is just plain ignorant.

Posted by: Lee26 | February 12, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I went to the newstand this morning, picked up the Post, and then put it back down when I remembered this would be in it. Since I don't subscribe, I can't cancel a subscription, but I will no longer EVER purchase the Post. I have also changed my homepage from Washington Post.COm.

Thanks, this was a necessary step for me and I appreciate you reminding me that I am no longer reading news in the Post.

Will Yanda and Prisbell be at the game on Saturday? Why not take questions there?

Posted by: rlmitchjr1 | February 12, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

This is not about "the one that got away" but rather, the dozens the area bleeds out to other programs that find success with what should be our local talent. You can make the argument the article handpicked some of the success stories that we missed but the details of our lack of interest in these players shows that Gary Williams lacks the motivation to do his due dilligence in finding the diamonds in the rough. How do Scottie Reynolds or Josh Boone not get a phone call? It is also about the program getting away from it's roots by going after all these McDonalds All Americans and such. That's not how the championship program was built. We took mostly local kids who played great and often underrated ball in one of if not the best talent pools in the country. The truly shocking and disturbing quote is Williams saying, "I'm not here to recruit." Well, Gary, you are here to recruit because recruiting is how you build winning teams. What you're not here to is spend your summers in Dewey Beach playing golf, getting hammered, and eating chicken wings. If a McDonald All American ever worked at Bottle and Cork, The Starboard, or The Rusty Rudder, Gary would know about him no question. Instead, we get Dave Neal as opposed to Jessie Sapp.
-A Maryland Alum

Posted by: ninja_skipp | February 12, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Just noticed James Gist wasn't on the "other area players" in the cute little graphic. Pretty rough for a guy who was a two time All ACC selection, got picked by one of the better franchises in the NBA and then elected to go live in Italy and get paid 3 mil plus a year with no taxes... Yeah he is terrible and shouldn't be mentioned...

Posted by: Lee26 | February 12, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"UNC is on their 4th coach since then,"

info_stuporhighway, please name the 4 coaches Carolina has had since 2001.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 12, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Michael Beasley- 1 year at Kansas St
Donte Greene- 1 year at Syracuse
Austin Freeman- Soph at Georgetown avg 12/game
Kevin Durant- 1 year at Texas
Ty Lawson- Junior at NC
Rudy Gay- 2 years at UCONN

Posted by: MMMirsky | February 11, 2009 11:14 PM

Maybe you can pick players who stayed more than 1 or 2 years in College. Only Ty Lawson has been at NC for this his 3rd year and most would say he has been a dissapointment. They were the Favorites to win the National Championship the last 2 years and fell short both times. I personally don't want kids who come for short times. Give me the Juan Dixons, Steve Blakes, Eric Hayes of the world any day.

Posted by: MPG24DE | February 12, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

and MMMirsky half that list has shady AAU coaches that got PAID. Maybe the jokers that wrote this article will get into that but judging by the slant of the last one I don't think they will. I'll take an ethically run and not ever headed to probation program 8 days a week.

Posted by: Lee26 | February 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

MPG24DE has a few priceless quotes in there.
Did you really just compare Hayes with Dixon and Blake and call Ty Lawson a dissapointment in the same paragraph?
Good stuff...

Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 12, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Years SINCE the national championship:

2003: Sweet 16, Steve Blake missed shot at buzzer that would have sent us to Elite 8

2004: ACC championship

2005: Lost best player DJ Strawberry to season ending injury early in season, lost John Gilchrist in 1st half of 1st game in ACC tournament and ended up losing the game. Beat top 5 duke not once but TWICE, and according to Joe Lunardi, we were the last team left out of the tourney. Still went on to win 3 games in NIT.

2006: Lost our leading scorer Chris McCray early in season, and were top 25 at the time. Still went on to go 8-8 in the ACC and win 19 games without him.

2007: 26 wins, 6th most in Maryland history, earned a 4 seed in the NCAA tournament.

2008: 19 wins.

2009: we 2 days away from being 5-5 in the ACC and in contention for a tournament birth.

This article was disgraceful.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 12, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Your chart of area players Maryland failed to recruit is, I think, deliberately misleading.

For instance, of the 53 players listed, MD recruited 4 while G'town recruited 5, V Tech 4, UVa 1 and G Mason 2. With this perspective, how bad is Maryland doing? Not so bad, it would appear.

I understand the point that some of these guys would have picked MD if Williams had reached out - or so they say - but you still have 33 (62%) of your 53 players leaving the area or shopping schools?. None of the local schools are drawing many of the area kids.

In fact, Conn and 'Nova (3 and 4, respectively) have done as well with local players as any of the local teams. Is that because Williams is a jerk and Thompson only recruits players his dad approves? Or does it say something about the local players?

On the other hand, 8 players on the list have played for more than 1 school or left school altogether. It is logical to assume any of these 8 would no longer be at Md. It seems Williams was smart to skip this group. So why include them?

There have been a lot of issues with the Md program in recent years and a lot of them are Gary's issues, too.

It is not fair, however, to slam him for this one if you are not going to extend the same criticism to the other area schools - which have not done so well in March themselves.

As a PS - rather than lament Williams not playing the sleazy under the table game with AAU and summer coaches, how about finding out why so many local coaches wink at it and the NCAA allows it? If all the other local schools won because they gave their kids steroids, would you be as disappointed that Williams refused to? Dirt is dirt and it should not be shrugged off.

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | February 12, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me the DC-MD-NOVA area is owned by the BIG EAST.

The ACC owns Southern VA and the Carolinas but most go to Duke UNC Wake or NC ST.

Too bad the TERPS are surrounded by BIG EAST lovers.

Posted by: jercha | February 12, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Your article in today's Post was total crap. Why not cover the team correctly instead of trying to drive Gary out of town? Gary will still be coaching the Terps when you are wondering were all the journalism jobs went.

Posted by: Watson1 | February 12, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd just like to point out that Scottie Reynolds is really a pretty awful basketball player. I'm not exactly losing sleep over not having a guy who can't even manage to shoot 40% from the field and finished last season with an assist to turnover ratio barely greater than 1 (yes, that's "one") on my team.

Posted by: fhyrew | February 12, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The article felt like a hatchet job.

However, living in VA at the time, the Scottie Reynolds situation is a little bothersome. At the time he was a pretty big here (he's got a Juan Dixon like story and therefore was very popular) and I was wondering if we were recruiting him but didn't hear our name come up at all. I figured MD had made an effort but he had eliminated us. Its annoying to hear that they didn't even recruit him until after he had become an all-american.

Boone, and Joe Alexander just seem like ones that got away. I mean you can't get everyone, and they were not that high ranked. Deron Williams was a low blow. He might not have come here, and Gilchrist was a huge recruit at the time. Can't fault Gary for that. Also, can't fault him for Delaney as he did offer him. Delaney came across like a complete dick in the article.

Also the mention of Booth was odd. Almost seemed forced, liked they had an agenda. Most of the article was spent on how we've suffered because of assistants that have left and then they mention how great a job Booth is doing.

Posted by: tedunni1 | February 12, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

tedunni1, please look at Reynolds' stats before lamenting his "loss." He's not very good at basketball.

Posted by: fhyrew | February 12, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"UNC is on their 4th coach since then,"

info_stuporhighway, please name the 4 coaches Carolina has had since 2001.

No, since 1993, since the box is about the 10 championship teams that preceded the Terps' 2002 title.

The point is that you can cook up any metric to make you look right. That doesn't make you right. That box is as useful as telling me that the Washington Monument has since been eclipsed in height by its peers the Sears Tower and the Empire State Building.

But while we're at it, would anybody have liked to have ridden the roller coaster that was UNC Basketball between 1993 and 2005? One of the proudest programs in the country ran out Bill Guthridge, suffered through the indignity of the Roy Williams Turnaround, the Matt Doherty Period, then was reduced to begging Roy Williams to come back?

The Terps need to be better that we've been, but we haven't come close to plumbing the depths that UNC did during that stretch. For this, we get a Steve Yanda smear campaign?

Posted by: info_stuporhighway | February 12, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Steve Yanda is a moron you could write this article about any school in the nation. I read the same article on SI, rivals, and scout a week ago, and Espn the week before that. Keep hating on Gary he's not going anywhere. What is gtown doing with all these great recruits????? If Gary had those players they would be top 10 in the country and going to the tourney. This article is a complete joke....this is exactly why when I read about the terps I go to the BALTIMORE SUN.

Posted by: beas13 | February 12, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Listening to Gary's comments leads me to think he may be a bit burned out. Additonally, his courtside demeanor gets a bit old and I am not sure young high school recruits can really relate to him. You have to commend him for having so many assistants move on to head coaching positions, but you wonder if they too might be tiring of Gary. Programs can get to a point whre a new voice is needed. If I ran the University, I probably would want to talk him into stepping aside. I do not see the future getting any better. Gary, thanks for the memories!

Posted by: lukewes | February 12, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Great, well researched article! You don’t see the effort put into deep background stories like this any more. I love all the FOGs (friends of Gary) howling like babies. Gary is a curmudgeon who shouldn't be representing the University of MD. He can't build relationships with players and their families and isn't interested in putting in the time necessary to do so. I loved when the Patriot league and Missouri Valley conferences Gary cried about how unfair that was and how MD would easily win those conferences. The next day he got about 10 calls from coaches looking to do home and aways with MD. Of course bully Gary didn't call any of them back. I'm a life long MD fan, but I've been to a few Mason games this year and they have a better program at this point. I can't wait for the day when Gary leaves and MD can start the process of being a relevant player on the national scene again. Someone brought up a great point which I couldn't agree more with, the FOGs always go and on how Gary saved us after we were on probation. It's a false premise. MD was going to be saved by any decent coach. We have everything it takes to be a consistent top 15 school:

* passionate fan base
* history
* great facility
* located in hotbed of high school talent

Gary is a joke. He needs to take his watch, let us name the floor after him and go drink beer and eat chicken wings with the co-eds in Ocean City and let someone else take over the program.

Posted by: restonhoops | February 12, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Maryland has fallen off in recent years but they've fallen from a perennial contender for the championship of the best conference in BBall to a middle of the pack team in the conference. this can change with one or two good recruits.

Gary has NEVER bent over his entire career to attract the blue-chip recruit. He attracts solid players and people. He then coaches them up to get the most out of them. See Joe Smith, but his aggressive style of coaching is something now that even the also rans (gilchrist) don't think they need. Also the addition of VT into the conference is going to further impact his recruiting. Even though vt is 4 hours a way many metro dc kids see it as a local school with the benefits of being far enough away from the city.

In any case the guy is md bball, an alumni and someone committed to winning and running a decent program. get off his back and look at his body of work.

BTW, Maryland sucks anyway GO HOKIES

Posted by: jdb70 | February 12, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Lot of vitriol here on both sides. It seems to me that a basic standard of success for a large, basketball-focused public university in the middle of a hotbed of basketball talent should be making the NCAA tournament. Maryland hasn't done that very often lately. It appears that Gary has made some poor choices with respect to recruiting and hasn't been as engaged in the process as he could have been. Also, the lack of continuity with assistants, once a great strength for Gary, has hurt him in recent years.

I agree with some of the commenters that I would have liked to hear about the recruiting experience from someone Gary successfully recruited. That said, the story seemed balanced and thoughtful to me. It doesn't say "AND GARY WILLIAMS SHOULD BE FIRED!"; it just discusses facts. I look forward to the rest of the series.

Finally, Yanda and Prisbell should be commended for getting the space and info necessary to take on this topic comprehensively - to bring it out of the shadows of Internet forum discussions and into the world of facts.

Posted by: Lindemann777 | February 12, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse


The Wash Post is useless. Voyeurs...

Posted by: Towards_Light | February 12, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

GW isn't going anywhere, not with a K for $2 million plus that takes him through 2012. So, Gary bashers should accept things as they are or become fans of some other program, such as Georgetown where you know things will get better.

Posted by: nonstopjoe | February 12, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

How can you NOT address the situation with Jeff Green who wanted to come to MD but was denied admission and admitted to Georgetown. MD has to play be higher standards than Georgetown when it comes to admissions.

Posted by: Bib1 | February 13, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The year is 2012. Which of the following is accurate.
1) GW is still the coach
2) The Washington Post is still in print

One

Posted by: mesco1 | February 15, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

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