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Poll: Initial Grade For Terps' Season

Over the next week, we'll take a more thorough look back at the Maryland season that concluded yesterday afternoon with a loss to Memphis in the second round of the NCAA tournament.

But for now, I'd like to get a sense of your initial impression on how the season went. Feel free to expand on your selection in the comments section or email them to me at yandas@washpost.com.

By Steve Yanda  |  March 22, 2009; 8:20 AM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  
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I rated the season a "D."

Finishing 7th in the ACC with a losing record, getting a 10 seed to the tournament, being blown out by an obviously superior team in the second round, having to deal with an idiot, Sanchez, making an ass out of himself and listening to the FOG medicocrity apologists really adds up to an "F."

But the win over Cal and the heart of some of the players who are not blessed with the talent our program deserves makes the season a "D."

Posted by: petecard | March 22, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

At first it seemed possible that Petecard was a real fan who was just not very well informed and a little schizophrenic. But by this point, I think it's pretty obvious to anyone who's been paying attention that this is an act by someone who's been using several different names on here for weeks to antagonize MD fans. There is no way anyone could grade this season a D unless they were doing so simply to antagonize Md fans.

To all readers of this site, I ask that you please not respond to comments made by Petecard/Restonhoops/McPoop anymore. Do not encourage him.

Posted by: Brainxp | March 22, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

To all readers of this site, I ask that you please not respond to comments made by Petecard/Restonhoops/McPoop anymore. Do not encourage him.

Posted by: Brainxp | March 22, 2009 10:21 AM
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Does that ever work? No, of course not.

It never works b/c usually the people who are usually told to be ignored are correct in their statements and the mindless shepple majority just doesn't want to hear it.

Just like in this case.

Also gotta give it up for petecard for being the undeniable truth.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | March 22, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

beep beep.

Posted by: Brainxp | March 22, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Gary has every right to be proud of the way his team played. They did over achieve.

But why does Maryland now have a program that consistently does not measure up to the talent of the top teams? Why shouldn't Maryland be an elite program? Why have so many accepted mediocrity?

This is not a couple of bad years. This is what we have become, year in and year out.

Playing in the ACC, in a prep basketball hotbed, with a facility and resources that are at the top, the state of our program is a real disappointment.

The chant of so many of our fans..."mediocrity now!"

Posted by: petecard | March 22, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Once you realize this Petecard/Poopy person is just saying these things to get a rise out of MD fans and isn't being serious, it's pretty pathetic to think that someone has this much time on their hands. Go outside and do something with your life for crying out loud!!

Posted by: Brainxp | March 22, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Letter grades, huh? Well, I'd give them an A for Effort, a B- for Skills, and a solid A+ for Sheer Cussedness.

For the Coach, I'd give him an A for game management, a C for recruiting, and a sstrong A+ for Defensiveness Under Fire.

Overall, a pretty good season. Fortunately the only letter that count are W and L, and those were definitely in the Terps favor.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 22, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I've been a fan since the days of Len Bias, Keith Gatlin, and Tom "Speedy" Jones...this goes down as one of my favorite Terps teams of all-time. Sure the championship teams were special, but the heart this team played with, overcoming expectations, puts it right up there on my list. When Gus Gilchrist left the team, and a gaping hole in the frontline, who would have thought this team would find itself one of the last 32 standing? Under-appreciated talents like Dave Neal, Eric Hayes, and Landon Milbourne, tough play from guys like Bowie, Mosley, and Gregory, and finally, the maturation of Vasquez. I've blasted Vasquez during his first 2.5 yrs at MD, but the growth he displayed as a player over the past month was tremendous. Granted, I was blasting him yesterday as the 3-pointers were being drained, having lit a spark under the mental midgets cans with asinine words, but he truely learned what it takes to be a basketball player. Give Gary credit for perhaps his greatest coaching job. Can anyone name another coach in the Acc they'd rather have. I've seen Purnell's name thrown about before...still want him? How 'bout Gaudio...3 1st rd players and a 1st rd flameout? Vasquez may or may not be back next year, Stephenson may be waiting to determine if a 'ship is really available, but without doubt, the Terps will be just fine with Gary leading them next season.

Posted by: asnis715 | March 22, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

100% agree that petecard, poopy mcpoopy, anita etc are all the same person. he is the biggest loser of all time.

Posted by: terpsfan09 | March 22, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

with the exception of steve francis, gary hasn't gotten a single "one and done" "talent" player to come to maryland. this approach has won the terps a championship, gotten them to the final four, and at least made it to the ncaa tournament many years in a row. fans can actually watch players develop over the years instead of maryland just serving as a pit stop on the way to the nba (or basketball oblivion, more likely). it's a pleasure to watch a team perform better than the sum of its parts, like this year, and play their hearts out like they do every year.

simply because gary williams doesn't believe that the petecard approach is the best way to win games doesn't mean he's settled for mediocrity. watch him for two minutes on the sideline and you can see he's not settling for anything but the best he can get. sometimes it works (2002), sometimes not (the nit years). there's not a huge margin for error if something goes wrong (dj's injury, mccray flunking out, preseason defections this year), but the rewards are that much nicer when it all comes together.

for anyone with a sense of basketball history, bob wade was clearly a "better" recruiter than gary williams. would you like *him* back? lefty driesell was a better recruiter than gary as well as being an excellent, underrated coach and he couldn't quite turn college park into the ucla of the east (gotta love him for trying though). i'm willing to support the most successful coach in school history to do things his way as long as he has the passion to do so, and clearly he still does.

if that makes me a blind "FOG" or mindless kool aid drinker...whatever.

Posted by: rm0659 | March 22, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Skinsfan991, why are you even here? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious as to why, if you're not a fan of the Terps, you would be on a site for Terps fan? What's the point?

Posted by: terpsfan09 | March 22, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"..bob wade was clearly a "better" recruiter than gary williams. would you like *him* back? lefty driesell was a better recruiter than gary as well as being an excellent, underrated coach and he couldn't quite turn college park into the ucla of the east (gotta love him for trying though). i'm willing to support the most successful coach in school history to do things his way as long as he has the passion to do so, and clearly he still does.if that makes me a blind "FOG" or mindless kool aid drinker...whatever.
Posted by: rm0659"

It clearly doesn't make you a FOG. But you are setting up a false dichotomy. The alternatives aren't limited to Bob Wade or Lefty Driesell. There are plenty of other coaches out there who'd love Gary's job. Not saying Maryland should hire one -- just that the job is something of a plum, and we can't assume there's no one else who could do it.

Here's another question. Suppose the real problem is that Gary Williams is just plain burnt out on recruiting (could you blame him?) Would you still require that Maryland stick with him based solely on loyalty to his past contribution?

Posted by: Samson151 | March 22, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's look at next year's potential Terps roster, class by class

Seniors: Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne

Grievis Vasquez, likely 1st team all acc candidate and potentially an acc player of the year candidate in 2009/10. Vasquez coming back for his senior year would be absolutely huge for this team. I think we can all agree he got better this year, a lot better. And we can mostly all agree he needs some more maturing to do. He's a great talent though, and has as big a heart as any Terp since Juan Dixon. If he can learn how to control himself more, I think he could be one of the better players in the nation next year--if he isn't already. Let us all say together: Grievis Please Come Back.

Eric Hayes, teaming up with Vasquez as the senior, veteran guards, with 4 full years of playing heavy minutes in Gary's system, I don't think we've seen the best of Hayes yet. In his senior year I'm looking forward to hopefully more of the sharp shooting game he displayed in the late stages of the season. His ball control needs to improve if he wants to get back in the starting lineup, but I'm not so sure that he's not a better player coming off the bench anyway. Either way, I'm expecting a big senior year out of him.

Landon Milbourne, potential candidate for an all acc team. Might have been most wore down a little down the stretch, possibly due to going up against bigger guys all season long. He could be moved to his natural small forward position next year, which will probably be music to his ears. Going up against bigger guys this year will only make him a better all around player in the future.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 22, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Juniors: Bowie, Tucker, Gregory, Dupree and Burney

Adrian Bowie, continue to hone his driving game and attack the rim with his speed and athleticism, but also next year we want him to start picking up more point guard responsibilities (he'll likely be our starting point guard in 2 years). Loved his 7 assists in the Cali game. He has the tools to be a big offensive weapon if he wants to be.

Cliff Tucker, had a couple of really phenomenal games this year against UNC, and had a lot of games where he hardly gave anything. He should get more consistent minutes next year, hopefully that will result in more consistent contributions. He's got a pretty sweet stroke, needs to work on creating his own shot. Could be a great slasher if he really wanted to be.

Dino Gregory, just continue to be that spark plug off the bench. Was great as our intangible force on the court late in the year, needs to work on that offensive game around the basket. Get Byron Mouton to work with him on this (they are similar athletes with similar game and Gregory sort of reminds me of Moot).

Braxton Dupree, I still have not yet given up hope on Dupree. He has such great size at 6 8, 260 lbs. Usually size like that is enough for Gary to mold you into a player. If Dupree gets another chance after opening this past season as the starting center, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that Gary can whip him into a regular contributor. We shall see.

Jerome Burney, health is now obviously the number one concern. If he's able to come back from his latest injury, which we certianly hope he does, I would love to see him finally get regular minutes. He's a great inside presence on defense whenever he's been able to get on the court, and he has also shown some post up moves on offense. But he's never been able to stay on the court. We don't know if both Dupree and Burney will be back next year, but if they are hopefully they'll be up to the challenge.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 22, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Sophomores: Mosley, Kim, Goins

Sean Mosley, can become a shut down defender in the ACC and could be a candidate for the all defensive team if he really dedicates himself fully to that side of the ball. There's lot of room for improvement in his offensive game, but he seems more to want to be the best defender he can possibly be. He might not be a starter in 09--with a crowded backcourt, and the possibility that Milbourne won't be playing power forward next year--but that's okay. The experience Mosley gained this year as a starting freshman will only make him a better player down the road.

Jin Soo Kim, aside from a couple of nice shots he hit early in the non conference schedule, he really did not see much of the court in any meaningful minutes once the ACC season started. His ball handling was exploited by defenses on a number of occasions. Speed of the game may be an issue, though he does have the height at 6 ft 7 to be a great practice player for the other regulars to go up against on a day to day basis.

Steve Goins, hardly ever saw him except for the Duke blowout, and it was not enough to go on. For all intents and purposes, he's basically a freshman again next year along with the incoming class.

Freshman

Our freshman class next year will include 6 ft 10 in 240 lbs Jordan Williams and 6 ft 8 in 212 lbs James Padgett, both highly touted big men in high school. How will they turn out in college? None of us has any idea, so why speculate? Sure there is obviously a lot of potential and these guys will be called upon early to provide help in the front court, but only time will tell if they are as good as advertised.

(*Not going to comment on Lance Stevenson since none of us has any idea if he'll be here or not)

I like our chances if this is our roster in 09.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 22, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

It clearly doesn't make you a FOG. But you are setting up a false dichotomy. The alternatives aren't limited to Bob Wade or Lefty Driesell. There are plenty of other coaches out there who'd love Gary's job. Not saying Maryland should hire one -- just that the job is something of a plum, and we can't assume there's no one else who could do it.

Here's another question. Suppose the real problem is that Gary Williams is just plain burnt out on recruiting (could you blame him?) Would you still require that Maryland stick with him based solely on loyalty to his past contribution?

Posted by: Samson151 | March 22, 2009 10:17 PM

actually, yes, i stick with him. not simply for his past contributions, but what he's done this last year. taking a team to the second round of the ncaas is a pretty good accomplishment for a team with only one senior, wouldn't you say? maybe you think the program "should be" in the top 10 every year, but since that has *never* been the case before why demand it now? because the only coach that's taken us to that level has a hard time maintaining it? the bob wade fiasco should be a warning that dumping an awesome coach unfairly (as they did with lefty) is more likely to bring disaster than championships.

sure, there are plenty of coaches that'd love to have the job. i'd take the job myself! :) but how many of them are better than gary williams right now? probably about zero. stay the course, cuz this year was good and next year looks even better!

Posted by: rm0659 | March 23, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Wow, looking at Barno1's roster breakdown, you wouldn't even know that he was talking about a team that finished 7-9 in conference.

Posted by: VTDuffman | March 23, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

beat it vtduffman. didnt your castrated turkey squad just get bounced from the NIT first round?

Posted by: jpfterps | March 23, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I am not Petecard and I take offense at that :-) Though we agree mostly about Gary. If you look at what this MD team did with the talent they had I would give them a solid b to even a B+. Why not an A? I didn't see a whole lot of improvement from players outside of GV, DN, and maybe EH. We know DN is gone and I'm willing to be unless we land Stephenson and GV thinks we can make the Final 4 he's gone. He will be drafted somewhere between 15-25. He's a 6-5 point guard that can get his own shot and get others involved. He will develop into a good player off the bench for some NBA team.

Again the big question is why is the MD roster in such a shape that they have to rally and get every ounce of their ability just to go 7-9 and get trounced thoroughly in the 2nd round? There were no real injuries this year or a key player lost to grades. Just not a talented team past GV. Again just unacceptable for a major program. I think Gary should do the honorable thing and ask for a transfer to UMBC where he can coach the kind of kids he likes and when he makes the tourney and gets a first round upset its a great story. That's not a great story at MD, sorry.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 23, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

It's so many GW apologists on here posting comments it’s amazing.

First off I'm a Maryland Alum. I need to put that out there because if you utter a negative word about GW you must have no connection to Maryland whatsoever.

I was kind to give a "C". My true belief is that they deserve a "D" but I will give them credit for making it to the NCAA. Truthfully Maryland made it to the tournament strictly off GW's name and reputation. A 7-9 record in the ACC is not the qualities of team deserving of a berth.

As for the people making statements that you have to consider the talent on the squad, GW is the one that recruited and signed off on them playing for Maryland. He didn't inherent the squad, he recruited. That's a negative on his part.

For everyone willing to give GW a lifetime pass to coach, that's pretty ridiculous. I appreciate everything he has done as much as the next man but when your time has come and gone. It's gone. GW "the world is against me" mantra is pretty tiring and played out to say the least.

Posted by: BigTee13 | March 23, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I am laughing at all you yahoos who think that some of other posters and I are one in the same.

You seem to have trouble realizing that there are quite a few people who want the Maryland Program to be much better and want GW to do a much better recruiting job.

On this point I congratulate Samson151 and restonhoops for their comments.

As for Poopy, even I don't get him...but I do find him funny, if not always coherent.

And Barno, you live in a dream world that HAS to be induced by the Koolaid and perhaps some fumes from the drycleaning fluid you use on Gary's suits. But maybe you really ARE Gary!

It's all just too funny!

Posted by: petecard | March 23, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I meant to give BigTee13 props for his comments too!

Posted by: petecard | March 23, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

It has never been more obvious than it is right now: Petecard is creating countless screen names on here in a really gay attempt to look like others share his idiotic views.

Petecard I swear you are the biggest loser of all time.

Posted by: terpsfan09 | March 24, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

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