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Terps Looking For Change Of Fortunes In KC

Dave Neal said last night he figured the Terps would end up in Miami, though he didn't mind so much when it turned out Maryland would be traveling to Kansas City. He said he was excited to be going anywhere for a NCAA tournament first round game.

The last time Maryland played in Kansas City was near the beginning of last season when the Terps competed in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Classic. They went 0-2 at the Sprint Center in mid-November 2007, dropping decisions to UCLA and Missouri.

During a 71-59 loss to UCLA, Maryland shot 1 for 11 from three-point range, was out-rebounded, 44-29, and recorded 21 turnovers. Greivis Vasquez led the Terps with 19 points, six rebounds and four assists.

In an 84-70 loss to Missouri, Maryland claimed the rebounding edge, 42-30, but still struggled with turnovers (23) and three-point shooting (1 for 15). Vasquez again led the Terps with 17 points, eight rebounds and four assists. Eric Hayes added 10 points, seven rebounds and six assists.

Neal did not play in either of those games due to a separated shoulder, but he remembers the outcomes and hopes to leave Kansas City on a better note this time around.

"We played in the Sprint Center one time, I think it was last year against Missouri and UCLA and we lost," Neal said. "So hopefully we can go back down there and change that and win two games and make a little run here."

By Steve Yanda  |  March 16, 2009; 1:39 PM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  
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Terps are YDT at the Sprint Center

Posted by: Barno1 | March 16, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Eric,

If you look at the comments on the last two postings by you, you will see what I am dealing with.

This site should not be about personal attacks, but that is what it is becoming.

If you don't have a way to change that than you are going to lose people...and it won't be because of me.

Posted by: petecard | March 16, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

then

Posted by: petecard | March 16, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Eric,

If you look at the comments on the last two postings by you, you will see the baseless, knee-jerk comments that have been made by commentors in the past. While Barno1's repostings can be obnoxious at times, in reality he is simply reposting your exact words. I understand it may be embarassing and you may not like it. In that case, I suggest you think more carefully before posting things in a public forum.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 16, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, that should be directed at Pete, not Eric

(Ironic that mixup came on a post about being more careful about what you right. Like a traffic jam, when you're already late.)

Posted by: fushezzi | March 16, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe how much Pete is whining. If things had not gone right for the Terps in Atlanta Pete would be ALL OVER GW--and calling anyone who supports Gary "HOF" Williams an FOG or a Koolaid Drinker.

Somebody get Pete a Weineken and call the Wambulance

Posted by: jpfterps | March 16, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain what the details of the non-conference games played in KC 2 years ago have to do with the game vs. Cal? what a silly point to make?

Posted by: minhle1 | March 16, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I am never going to get all over anyone after they have done well.

We ALL want the Terps to win.

My problem with the program and Gary is not based on whether we make the NCAA tournament or not. It is the "state of the program."

We are a 10 seed and finished 7th in the ACC.

Our talent level is not where many of us would like it to be.

We still root for the team, but it's like hoping to get to the dance, not to win the contest. Surely most Terrapin fans see that.

So it's fine to enjoy the opportunity, but only right to understand reality.

Gary is a great coach, but not a great recruiter. Does one national championship buy tenure? He has had a long term relationship and he has multiple years left. Should he be accountable for whether or not we get back to and stay at an elite level?

This is simply one Terp asking others...what do you want? I say...NOT mediocrity.

Posted by: petecard | March 16, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Pete,

In the last 16 years, Maryland has won 19 games or more EVERY season. No other ACC school has done that. That is not mediocre.

The state of the program is fine. The only way the state of the program will decline will be if short-sighted individuals such as yourself tire of Gary and successfully campaign to get him fired. Until the day Gary leaves, the state of the program is phenomenal.

You are entitled to your opinion, but in this case, your opinion is wrong.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 16, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Pete--The circumstances following our dip from the back to back final fours are incredibly unique. Injured players, seniors flunking out, some recruiting errors, shady AAU contacts and the resulting player transfers have combined to leave the program in a tough spot on selection Sunday a few times since 2004. But the Terps have always competed, always been able to beat anyone at home or on the road.

Gary IS Maryland basketball, go after him at your own peril. Remember how happy Kentucky was to get Billy Gillespie? Be careful what you wish for petey

Posted by: jpfterps | March 16, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

fushezzi and jpfterps:

Thanks for your comments.

My desire for the program is not related to making the NCAA tournament or winning 19+/- games a year. I don't think the state of the program is "phenomenal."

There may be a lot of reasons why the program has been mediocre (my term) for the past 5 years. But all programs are subject to the recruiting and player stability issues you refer to.

I am willing to bet that Billy Gillespie gets it righted at Kentucky very soon. And Kentucky is just the kind of "elite" program I am talking about. Tubby won a championship (Pitino gift), but they saw that they were not going to sustain the level of success they wanted. So they made a change.

I am NOT saying fire Gary. I am only saying it is his responsibility to get the program to a higher level.

If you don't care about a higher level fine. We can simply disagree.

And jpfterps, what exactly to do mean about "going after him at my own peril?"

Are we living in some kind of a totalitarian regime? I think NOT.

Posted by: petecard | March 16, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I think Barno secretly has a crush on petecard or anyone else who doesn't drink the Terp Koolaid.

C'mon Barno, it's okay to come out of the closet. I mean it is 2009 and the U.S. has an African-American President. Times have changed buddy.

Just admit your man-crush on various posters. Why not even get a hotel room so you can finally release your frustrations with said posters?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | March 16, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm really excited to see the Terps make the tournament. Sure, they're only a #10 seed, but at least they have a shot, which is more than I can say for a lot of other local teams (G-Town, VaTech, UVA). Gary has probably done one of his best coaching jobs, aside from the first Final Four trip in 2001. This team has far exceeded expectations, and perhaps that's the way Gary would rather play it. Sure, we don't have the greatest players, but Gary somehow gets these guys to buy in, and turns them into a competitive team, even though it took a few blowouts and close games where they blew second-half leads.

In the grand scheme of things, I would much rather have a team that finishes in the middle of the pack every year, finishing second or third in the ACC every two or three years, and have a consistant shot at the dance, than to have a team that's in the NCAA tournament one year and then finishes at the bottom of the conference the next. The name of the game is consistancy, and while Maryland has hit a couple bumps in the road the past couple of years, it hasn't "bottomed" out like a lot of programs in recent years (UNC with Dougherty, Duke in 1996, Wake 2 years ago, UVA just about every year, GaTech since their Final Four, post-Tubby Kentucky, Escherich G-Town, and so on). More than 75% of the D-1 schools would LOVE to have the "problems" that Maryland has right now, and I'd like to see any other coach compile the record Gary has over his 20 years at this school.

The Terps have never won fewer than 19 games since 93-94, and have only finished with a sub-.500 conference record 3 times in that span. I would much rather have that level of consistancy than the roller coasters that many of the other ACC teams deal with every year, mostly because of their recruiting of the high level, 1 and done type talent. Players on this team typically improve throughout the season, and from year to year (aside from maybe the 2002 recruiting class). Gary has groomed some great players that weren't great players when they came to Maryland, and that constant growth and improvement is what makes this year's team such a surprising triumph.

Posted by: Russtinator | March 16, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Petecard laying the smack down, cause Stone Cold says so!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | March 16, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

It's really shocking that Poopy McPoop is defending Petecard, given the fact that Poopy has admitted on this blog that he is a fairweather fan. One fairweather supporting a fellow fairweather. Total shocker.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 16, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If you like wrestling and quote it you probably shouldn't be using a computer. You might hurt yourself plugging it in...

Posted by: Lee26 | March 16, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Petecard:
It's amazing that when you have been shown to be the sham that you are, now you are complaining to Prisbell and Yanda about eliminating some of the bloggers like Barno. Wasn't it you who called all of us who supported GW something like FOGs who wanted to carry his golf bag, accusing us of drinking Kool-Aid (BTW, Tropical Punch is my favorite)?Forgive me if your feelings are hurt, but if you can dish it out, then you should be able to take it. Don't try to pretend that you were hoping for the Terps to win all along. It's one thing to say you're a fan and point out problems, like I have in the past, and another to constantly tear down this team and its coach who have performed admirably under the circumstance. You kept saying that we were no better than an NIT team and now you want to be on the bandwagon? At least be a real man and admit that you were wrong.

Do I wish we were a better team? Of course. Do I think there need to be some drastic changes? Absolutely. But being a "realist" is not bemoaning the fact that we aren't Final Four caliber yet. Being a realist means that if being the 10th seed in the tournament is the best we can do right now, then I'm happy with that. I'm sure all the Kentucky, G'Town, Va Tech, Penn St., and UVA fans would give anything right now to be a 10th seed in the tourney.

Posted by: ecglotfelty | March 16, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Pete--By citing "your own peril", I meant what could happen if you had your whiny way and ran Gary out of town. Kentucky, Tubby and Billy is the prime example--Tubby got ran out of town, now he has Minnesota back in the tournament and the folks in Lexington want Billy out. You need a closer to home, less elite example? You think the folks at NC State wish they still had Herb Sendek? Sid Lowe and all his red blazers can't win a game on Tobacco Road, meanwhile Herb is relaxing in the desert coaching a 6 seed and Wooden Award candidate.

But you should really take solace in someone named Poopy defending you.

Posted by: jpfterps | March 16, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Please show me where I said anyone should be kicked off of this site?

Check with Barno. He has a library of my comments. He has them memorized.

Maybe he can make one up.

Uh oh...here comes the whole stream of Barno postings...sorry everyone.

Posted by: petecard | March 16, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

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