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Gary Williams on "Washington Post Live"

Maryland Coach Gary Williams will be a guest on "Washington Post Live," tonight at 5 p.m. on Comcast SportsNet. The Terrapins were the only team in the country this season to beat both Michigan State and North Carolina, which will face off tonight for the national title.

If you're not near a television, you can watch the show live at www.washingtonpost.com/sports.

By Matt Bonesteel  |  April 6, 2009; 1:28 PM ET
 
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Let's repeat that again for all the Gary haters:

"The Terrapins were the ONLY team in the country this season to beat both Michigan State and North Carolina, which will face off tonight for the national title"


Just Sayin'

Posted by: Section505203 | April 6, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. If you're saying MD was really good this year shouldn't they have gone better than 7-9 in what was shown to be a very weak year for that ACC? What is know about the PG we signed last week from Arizona? Is he a player?

Posted by: restonhoops | April 6, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"What is know about the PG we signed last week from Arizona? Is he a player?Posted by: restonhoops | "

And more importantly, what are the chances he'll actually play for Maryland?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 6, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Can you please post the link to WashPost Live? Thanks.

Posted by: lavar609 | April 6, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

If you're saying MD was really good this year shouldn't they have gone better than 7-9 in what was shown to be a very weak year for that ACC?

Posted by: restonhoops | April 6, 2009 2:16 PM

Restonhoops, aka Petecard, the ACC was not "shown to be a very weak year." The ACC had the number one conference RPI this season, and likely has the national champ. Cleveland St beating Wake doesn't make this a "very weak year" not by a long shot.

Posted by: brianxp | April 6, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

In a one game scenario with a 'surprise factor' Cleveland State was a beast. They are big, and apparently run practice drills that make 'Rollerball' look tame.

Posted by: jake177 | April 6, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Restonhoops, aka Petecard, the ACC was not "shown to be a very weak year." The ACC had the number one conference RPI this season, and likely has the national champ. Cleveland St beating Wake doesn't make this a "very weak year" not by a long shot.


Clown, I'm not Petecard. The ACC is a very weak conference now and I've followed the ACC for about 40 years now. The ACC in hoops has become Carolina and the also rans. John Feinstein a wrote great article about it last week. The drop does track with the expansion in football but I think that is just a coincidence. In my view it's because the coaching is not what it once was in the ACC.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

You're totally right, only 4 different ACC teams have been to the title game in the last 6 years. More than any other conference. It's terrible.

Posted by: Lee26 | April 7, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

please try to have some credibility and not make up random facts to quote JF

The ACC is as mediocre as it ever was in football, but it has regressed significantly in basketball. Duke's loss Thursday meant for a fifth straight season no ACC team other than North Carolina will reach the region finals. During that same period, six Big East schools have gone at least that far. Going a step further, six Big East schools have combined to win 15 games in this year's tournament. Since 2005, the 10 ACC schools not named North Carolina or Duke (the only two dissenters in the expansion vote) have combined to win just 12 NCAA tournament games.

The fact is the ACC is down right now and has been for a few years. I think MD, VA, GT and NC State in particular have been down lower than were you would expect them the last few years.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

restonhoops:
1 ACC team in the final
1 ACC team is the nat'l champs.
0 Big East teams in the final.
2 teams in the final that MD beat.

Quote all the stats you want. The bottom line is the bottom line. Quit moping around and take your Zanax.

Posted by: ecglotfelty | April 7, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

You're totally right, only 4 different ACC teams have been to the title game in the last 6 years. More than any other conference. It's terrible.


Lee26 what teams are those exactly? Maybe your talking soccer or LAX?

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Again MD beat the 2 teams in the Final and MSU didn't have there best player when we played them. You can't have it both ways. If MD was so "good" this year that we beat both teams in the championship game so in your small mind we are like what the 3rd best team in the country then? So why did we go 7-9 in a weak ACC with no major injuries? hmmm.....

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

restonhoops,

So UNC (twice), Duke and Maryland winning it in this decade means the ACC is down in basketball? Sorry, not buying it.

Like it our not, Duke and UNC are in the ACC. You could do the same thing with the Big East, take away UCONN and Syracuse and the Big East is down.

You can't cherry pick teams. A conference is what it is.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 7, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

hello mcfly

The ACC is as mediocre as it ever was in football, but it has regressed significantly in basketball. Duke's loss Thursday meant for a fifth straight season no ACC team other than North Carolina will reach the region finals. During that same period, six Big East schools have gone at least that far. Going a step further, six Big East schools have combined to win 15 games in this year's tournament. Since 2005, the 10 ACC schools not named North Carolina or Duke (the only two dissenters in the expansion vote) have combined to win just 12 NCAA tournament games.

The ACC is not nearly what is was in the 80s and 90s right now. Maybe Hewitt finally gets a couple players to stay a few years, maybe UVA and NC State right their sinking ships, but right now its not a good conference other than NC and Duke has become a 2nd tier national player since Coach K mentally checked out. After the year when he lost all his players early including Livingston who never showed up on campus Duke has not gone after the big players with near the gusto they used to. That result has shown itself on the floor as Duke has had its longest stretch without a final 4 since Coach K got things rolling.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

You're totally right, only 4 different ACC teams have been to the title game in the last 6 years. More than any other conference. It's terrible.


Lee26 what teams are those exactly? Maybe your talking soccer or LAX?

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 10:51 AM
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2004 GA Tech lost to UCONN in the final. That is the 4th team that Lee26 is probably referring to apart from UNC, Duke and Maryland. I guess it should be 7 years not 6. But, the point is still valid. The ACC is dominant.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 7, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

In the last 5 years only one ACC team has even made the Final 8 boys. That is hardly dominant.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Restonhoops,

You're killing me. The ACC has never been that stong in football and the expansion didn't help that. I'm not arguing that.

The ACC is not down in basketball. A conference always has it's cellar dwellers.

It used to be Clemson and FSU now it's NC State and UVA. Your point it no valid.

I wouldn't be so quick to throw dirt on Duke and Coach K. As much as I hate to admit it, the man can coach. The last few years he has been 1 big man away from a chance at a title. A Boozer or Deng type.

The ACC is always in the top 2 in RPI ratings, routinely kicks the Big 10's butt in the challenge, always dominates it non-conferences foes, has won 4 titles by 3 different teams is this decade and has sent 4 different teams to the championship game this decade.

And you think the ACC is down?

Do you also think that the Steelers and Patriots haven't dominated the NFL this decade with 5 titles between the 2 of them?

Or do you perhaps think that Jennifer Aniston is ugly?

Dude, wake up and smell the java.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 7, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Well Jennifer Aniston is certainly not super hot, but as FOG I'm sure you embrace medioricaty. The ACC is down big time. You're probably too young to remember times when FSU was good. Remember Sam I Am? When Clemson was better than it is even now. When UVA and MD made the Sweet 16 quite often. Half a decade is long enough to look at something as a trend. I would love to see the ACC back up where I think it belongs. I think its going to take more coaching talent. UVA might of finally gotten their man. We'll see how that plays out over the next several years. Just looking quickly at next year I don't think any ACC school will be an early favorite to reach the final 4. We need to see how early entry decisions go to get a good read on next year for MD and the rest of the ACC.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Restonhoops,

I'm older than you think. Don't assume, you know what happens when you do that.

I can't help you if you are not willing to help yourself.

The ACC is not down in basketball and I think I have the facts on my side here as I just gave.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 7, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Yes GT was who I was also bringing in the mix with Duke, UNC, and MD. Perhaps it was 7 not 6 years. But if your conference has a different team in the national championship gam every other year you could be doing a lot worse.

Posted by: Lee26 | April 7, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

all right mr. old timer I went to the facts and added up all the tourney numbers from www.theacc.com

80s 87 wins
90s 105 wins
00s 87 wins (scary this decade is over now)

So the ACC is down about 20% from the 90s even with more teams in the ACC (Florida State, Miami, Va Tech, BC)

The tournament didn't even fully expand until 85 so the 80s number of 87 was certainly depressed from today's numbers, but I'm sure you knew that old timer.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

for a closer look the first 5 years of this decade produced 47 wins and the last 5 40 wins

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Your point is still very shaky.

80's- 2 titles and 8 final four teams

90's- 3 titles and 11 final four teams

00's- 4 titles and 9 final four teams


Bottom line, the ACC is as dominant as it ever was.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 7, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

don't let facts get in the way. 91 and 92 are long time ago it todays ESPN News world. The ACC is a single team conference now like Conference USA with a side kick in Duke. Not quite that bad, but you get the point. The Big East has passed us by and to some degree I think the Big 12 if not passed the ACC at least their are making a strong case with multiple strong teams like Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas. It's really all about coaching and recruiting and the ACC is just down right now in those areaa. With new hires in UVA and other places things can change again. The SEC and Big 10 are down as well. If Kentucky and Florida bounce back though the SEC will have a different look.

Posted by: restonhoops | April 7, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey. No Poopy today. Board is much more boring without him. That said, good year for the ACC. No celebrating beating both teams in the final though; still think this years team should have made a better showing against Memphis. That said, I'd call the year average. Hopefully GV returns and the new big men live up to expectations.

Posted by: HughGRection | April 7, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

ACC's RPI was number 1 in the country yet again this year.

RPI is pretty straight forward: team's winning percentage (25% of the RPI), its opponents' winning percentage (50%), and the winning percentage of those opponents' opponents (25%). This is an objective measurement of which teams and conferences are strongest and doesn't factor in the anecdotal evidence that guys like Restonhoops/Poopy love so much.

So, bottom line, by the most objective measurement available, the ACC was the strongest conference in America this year.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 8, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

Providing even more rock solid evidence that the ACC has not slipped.

It's absurd for anyone to say that a conference has slipped, when 3 different teams won 40% of the championships in this decade.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 8, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I suggest the Pomeroy rankings will shed the most light on the relative strengths of the major conferences and their component teams. Pomeroy publishes (http://kenpom.com/rate.phpa) a number of statistics, each of which is explained, that allow readers to verify (or refute) the associated standings of the various teams. It seems quite clear that the ACC is annually the strongest performing conference or very close to it.

It's remarkable that some people (we know who you are) expect predictably professional play from university teams composed of 18 - 22 year olds. That's unlikely to obtain. But if you insist on having a predictably top ten team year in and year out, you must put up tens of millions $$$ to buy out contracts and bring in coaches, dismissing those who disappoint your unrealistic expectations. Even so, you've got the NCAA, that temple of hypocrisy, to contend with. Until you have tens of millions to buy your way in, accept reality - that UMd does better in extramural sports than most but cannot realistically guarantee you first places finishes seriatim .

Posted by: AncientTerp | April 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

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