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Poll: Still Support Fridge?

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By Eric Prisbell  |  September 26, 2009; 7:46 PM ET
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Its time to move on big boy!!! You will be 3 and 9 and "build it and they will come" is over..

Resign now and spare us seeing your loser mug on the sideline

Posted by: carolina1 | September 26, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

fridge is a good man, but it's time for a new direction. first thing UMD has to realize is that, for whatever reason, the school CAN NOT consistently recruit top regional talent. we aren't, and NEVER will be, a virginia tech, florida state, miami, etc. so, the new coach should be someone who can run a gimmicky offense. someone like the guy at wake or johnson at georgia tech...similar football programs as maryland. every year there are coaches at tulsa, or boise, or middle tennessee state that run "junk" offenses. time to get a guy like that.

Posted by: birdynumnum | September 26, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

13 turnovers and 61 points off of them in just 4 games is downright staggering. Cut half of those turnovers and points out and this team is 3-1 and is nobody is asking these kinds of questions.

Posted by: CapsNut | September 26, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Please Ralph just resign....its getting really old and you just don't have it anymore...enough is enough. At least retain some of your dignity and do the right thing and quit so MD doesnt have to pay out the rest of your contract...

Posted by: Capsfan1322 | September 26, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Would Alabama or Florida or Texas put up with this?

Posted by: terpin | September 26, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

This was the poorest effort I've seen from the Terps during Friedgen's tenure. They lost by almost 50 points to Virginia Tech a few years back but that was on the road. That Virginia Tech team was far superior to the Rutgers team the Terps played today.

Losing this badly to a very average Rutgers team at home bodes ill for the rest of the season.

A coaching change has been direly needed for the past 2 or 3 years, but Debbie Yow is not going to buy out the rest of Friedgen's contract. Barring an early retirement, it appears we'll have to endure a few more years of mediocrity.

But please, please, please rethink giving the coaching position to James Franklin. That would be a colossal disaster.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | September 26, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Maryland needs to be moved to another part of the state. No one wants to live in College Park. There is too much crime there. The thugs have ruined it for everyone again. Top athletes do not want to be around all this crime.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | September 26, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

When a team stops trying, the coach is done. And you cannot convince me they were giving anything near 100% when Rutgers scored those last 2 TD runs. Ralph has lost this team. This was embarrassing and the low point of his tenure.

Posted by: srcog | September 26, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Fortunately Midnight Madness is only a few weeks away.

The Terps look like a top 15 team this year.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | September 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

The coach can only put his players in position to win. It is up to them to perform. Right now, they are not. It is a shame because Coach Friedgen is a good man.

Posted by: memphisterp | September 26, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Everyone fusses about the Terps recruiting but who wants to play in a JV stadium thats half full week to week even when they are winning. Their games aren't even televised! I dare anyone here to find another large State school that doesn't have their games televised on tv. Not even a local channel picks MD games up. Thats pathetic and if I were a recruit I wouldn't want to play for this program. Players want the exposure.

This program and team is a joke. I agree with one thing. Fire Fridge. The penalties and turnovers are pathetic. I'm not even a Terp fan but the coaching staff isn't earning their money teaching discipline.

Posted by: oneft2dice | September 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Don't think you will have many people disagree that Ralph is a good man and has run a clean program. Also think that the AD would never buy out his last few years so he will be here, but, it really looks like it has passed him by. The rest of this year just might be the most difficult we have had since the early 90s. How long do you stick with a Sr. quarterback when you are obviously rebuilding - I realize they have yet to play an ACC game but what they have shown so far is disappointing to say the least.

Posted by: sjm3091 | September 27, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Yes, this looks like it's going to be a bad year, but I've got Ralph's back because I know how bad this program has been. Consider, this is Ralph's 9th year in the program. The previous two coaches coached a total of 9 seasons. In their BEST 4 seasons (95, 96, 99, 2000), those coaches went 21-23 (12-20 in the ACC)and went to no bowl games.

In Ralph's WORST 4 seasons (04, 05, 07, 08), the team has gone 24-23 (13-19 in the ACC) and been to two bowl games. So, at its worst, the team has been better during Ralph's tenure than during the tenure of his immediate predecessors at their respective peaks. What makes anyone think that the next coach is going to be able to win here?

People on this board talk about how Ralph won with Vanderloser's players--and that's a fair point. But at least sombody won with them, nobody since Bobby Ross won squat here before Ralph showed up.

Someone asked "Would Alabama or Florida or Texas put up with this?" Of course they wouldn't--those schools expect to contend for the National Championship because they get the best talent, have the best facilities and have tradition. Maryland isn't one of those programs and isn't EVER going to be one.


Posted by: PeteinAZ | September 27, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

FYI, the game was televised. ESPNU. Big time tv Not exactly, but it was televised. Last weeks' was to, through ESPN360. Not ideal, but it's something.

Also, the stadium had a crowd through half-time of around 35-40,000 in total, maybe a little more. That's not JV numbers, and Bryd Stadium ain't no JV field. If the team gives us a reason to really believe it will get incredibly loud in there.

I wish I could explain what's going on, be it the injuries or the team members not matching up well with each other or a basic lack of talent or something intangible. It was painful to sit though the game yesterday. We lost one huge part of the team in Baltz. I don't even have a clue as to what's going on with Turner since we all know he's better than this.

At least they seemed pretty well pissed off given the amount of bleepable language in the back ground of Fridge's radio interview. Maybe they can use that anger for next week. Heaven help us if they come out this flat against the ACC.

Posted by: EricS2 | September 27, 2009 3:54 AM | Report abuse

While it's easy to blame the coach when a team goes this far south, I have to stick with Fridge. Remember when Penn St had two mediocre seasons this decade? Everyone was saying that Joe Pa needed to retire. This year, his team is currently 5th ranked (although they won't be after sticking up the joint with Iowa). Bobby Bowden had some terrible years this decade with FSU, and now they're ranked #17 (although they will probably drop out after losing at home to South Fla. Maybe I need better examples...)

OK, so maybe this isn't the best week to make this argument. But the point is that even good coaches have years that are terrible, whether it's a rebuilding year or whether the players are getting injured (whod've thunk two Heisman winners, Bradford and Tebow, who decided to play one more year in college, get injured), or just plain bad luck.

Maybe the pundits who predicted the Terps to finish last in their division saw something the rest of us didn't or didn't want to see. This is going to be one of those years where patience is required. This is a hard thing to accept for college football fans whose feelings ride like a roller coaster; you this week and everything is right with the world; you lose and you go on a week long funk. The funny thing is listening to the Zanax crowd on this blog after the games. They want to blame the coaches, blame the AD, blame the crime (c'mon, don't be such a wuss), even blame their shrink for the reason that Chris Turner keeps coughing up the football. Whatever.

There's still hope. With the ACC portion of the schedule coming up, there's still plenty to play for this season. Right now, we're 0-0 in conference play. And as we've seen already this roller coaster season, those that were up, like Miami, must come down, and those that were down, like BC and VT, must come up. Anything can happen and the Terps have as much a shot as anyone of getting to the BCS right now. Anything is possible.

Anything, and maybe some velcro gloves for the offense, is possible.

Posted by: ecglotfelty | September 27, 2009 5:05 AM | Report abuse

@PeteinAZ, UMD's football program has never been this bad. This is the low point in the history of the program. The bad MD teams of the 90s were far superior to the DII team that plays at Byrd now. There's probably not another win on the schedule.

Posted by: MBP1 | September 27, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Coach Friedgen has given Terp fans some great moments. His first 2 years were magic and revived the football program. Bowl wins over Tennessee, West VA and Purdue were significant. And remember, it was only 2 years ago that UMD beat both Miami and Fla St. However, we are looking at a losing season, which will be 4 out of the last 6. After 8 full seasons has Coach Friedgen really built a lasting program or are they stuck in mediocrity?

Posted by: erniegogo | September 27, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

@ecglofelty, Penn State isn't burdened with Debbie Yow as AD. Yow fired the coach who recruited the players that Fridge won with early in the decade, when the team was good. One of the reasons Penn State is good again is that Ron Vanderlinden is an assistant there and recruiting the same kind of players he recruited while he was at MD. MD can't recruit players who can block and tackle. FSU and VaTech will each score about 100 against MD this year.

Posted by: MBP1 | September 27, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

I kind of liked the Duffner days at least the offense was exciting to watch. That was painful to watch yesterday.

Posted by: tmcherv | September 27, 2009 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Ralph,

Losing games has killed your career for now and losing the weight has saved your life for now. Unfortunately, true success necessitates an inverse relationship instead of a direct relationship here, and the good people of the state of Maryland have had enough! Reverse the trend or beg off and allow another to lead.

Jimmy V

Posted by: jv_cfpllc | September 27, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Of course I still support Ralph! As a Wahoo, I think it's important that Virginia not have the most incompetent coach in the ACC.

Posted by: kemp13 | September 27, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Those who are backing Friegen are failing to see the progression from great to good to mediocre to bad to worse through the years.

If you haven't noticed, the really good years occurred 2001-04.

And please stop making comparisons to the 90's. Why not make comparisons to the 70's or 80's as well?

Whare are the attributes of a poorly coached football team?
turnovers
penalties
lack of effort
poor tackling

We've witnessed all four this past Saturday. And that was not an aberration. We've been seeing this over the course of the past four years.

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | September 27, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Look, this program has been declining for almost a decade. This is not PSU or Michigan having an off season or two. The decline has been masked by scheduling weaker opponents and the change in bowl eligibility to 6 wins and guaranteed in. It never used to be that way. Its part recruiting (why we cant compete with PSU) and part coaching (why we cant compete with MTSU and Rutgers). People who say we can NEVER be a top program are ridiculous! VT was nowhere before Beamer and Miami was a joke before Schnellenberger got there. However, I am now convinced that we will NEVER be Top 25 with Yow and Fridge but there is NO reason why this program should not be a Top 25 each year with a great coach and AD

Posted by: TerpfanMA | September 27, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

The consensus seems to be "Ralph is a good man, but it's time to move on," and I agree. Ralph is a hero, but the UM athletic department is in dire straits and the football program needs the spark that can only come with a new coach (but can we afford to eat another $1M to get that spark from someone other than Franklin?).

Posted by: SmittyATL | September 27, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, thsi Ralph Freidgen is not the one that was hired and coached here from 2001-2003. That one died about 4 games into the 2004 season with Joel Statham throwing the ball to the other team.

The Fridge lost his stones and hasn't found them again 6 seasons later. That Fridge was innovative and had his players believing they were the best in the country. This one now punts with 5 minutes to go down 14 points in opposing territory.

Fridge proved that you can build a top football program here. He has now proven that he can no longer lead a strong program though.

Posted by: MrSkins | September 27, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

The comments from people like birdynumnum and PeteinAZ are really sad. These people seem to think that Maryland can never become a program that can compete at the top level of the NCAA FBS. They have some sort of inferiority complex.

It can happen, but not overnight. The first goal should be exactly what Ralph laid out several years ago (but didn't accomplish): get Maryland in the Top 25 on a regular basis, and every once in a while the pieces will fall into place to compete at the national level. Jerry Claiborne did that, and Bobby Ross did that, so it CAN be done at Maryland.

Ralph was on the right track in the first few years, but unfortunately couldn't keep it going. Four losing records in six years doesn't sell a lot of tickets for the new suites.

Hopefully the next coach can get us back on track. After he has done that for three or four or five years, there's no reason we can't start dreaming of a National Championship.

Posted by: SmittyATL | September 27, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Hey, memphisterp, in college football the coach has to do more than put his players in position to win. He is also effectively the GM: he also has to pick the right players and assistants. This is where Ralph has to take responsibility.

Posted by: SmittyATL | September 27, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the pundits who predicted the Terps to finish last in their division saw something the rest of us didn't or didn't want to see.

Posted by: ecglotfelty | September 27, 2009 5:05 AM

The pundits predictions of where we'd place in the conference have not come have not been proven right or wrong just yet. We are undefeated so far in the conference play.

Posted by: Barno1 | September 27, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter who the coach of MD is, as long as the Len Bias entry restrictions exist, MD Football will be mediocre. Restricting access to education, even with the best intentions has its drawbacks. 1 for the Terps includes losing quality football players to Va Tech and Penn State because of entrance requirements.

Go ahead, keep blaming the coach like Terp fan is so good at doing. The issue is instead of denying admissions, develop assistance programs that are mandatory for participation. This will help the program, and help people who have a desire to stay in the area and play, but need extra help academically. Or keep on doing what you doing, and fire coaches every 5 years or so. I know this, you will not find a better one than the Fridge.

Posted by: flsnupe | September 27, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Coach Franklin has a lot to do with the Terps being so poor. We need a better offense scheme. Also, when you lose 31 seniors that does not help. But our offense is terrible!! Chris Turner got player of the game for Rutgers yesterday. He beat his own team by throwing a pick 6 and fumbling in the end zone. Terps 13 Turner 14!!!

Posted by: supercoupe50 | September 27, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

flsnupe, you're making excuses.

Maryland has won national championships in several sports since the so-called Len Bias restrictions (and I'd like you to show me a link to where this policy exists). So your argument is completely bogus.

Why does the soccer team field a national contender almost every year?

Posted by: imterpsfan2 | September 27, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of posters on this site making excuses. People want to blame everyone but the coach.

Some examples:
1) Too many Jews on campus
Two weeks ago posters blamed the poor attendance on having a game on a Jewish holiday.

2) Poor Location
Athletes don't want to come to College Park because of the crime.

3) Bad Stadium
Are our facilities any worse than Boise State or Houston? Those teams are able to field winners.

4) Admissions Requirements
Our admissions standards for athletes correlate well with the rest of the ACC. Please name a few players we didn't get in football because of entrance requirements.

Next, why don't we blame the Terps loss to Clemson on that the wind blew in a south south easterly direction within Byrd Stadium...lol

STOP STOP THE EXCUSES


Posted by: imterpsfan2 | September 27, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

We can blame the AD for this disaster. Fridge won early in his tenure with the previous coach's players and then flirted with every coaching vacancy from San Diego to North Carolina. Yow, of course, caved in to his demands. Her mistake #1: firing the previous coach, who was on the cusp of sustained success on the field and in recruiting. Her mistake #2: signing Fridge, who cannot recruit D-1 players, to a long term contract. She has managed to coddle a pretender -- Fridge -- while alienating our future hall of fame basketball coach. UM has had great success, though, with those tremendous revenue producing women's field hockey & lacrosse programs.........

Posted by: rmlauletti | September 27, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Dearest "Terps Fans",
I cannot believe that you people call yourselves Terp fans. It has been four games and you are calling for Friedgen to resign or to get fired! First of all, do you ever think that maybe the families of the coaches and players are reading the comments that you write? Second, why don't you look at James Franklin, the so called OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR...he is the one with the horrible play calling. This is the guy who should be under fire. Terrible play calling.
Miami,UVA,Florida..all schools who have had down years. Maryland graduates their students and doesn't stand for paying their players or taking kids who are less than stellar people. That is why they may not have the top recruits, because they do it the right way.
Give it a chance and support your team no matter what... and do me one more favor...
JUST SHUT UP!!

Posted by: terp77111 | September 27, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Idiots love Vanderlinden. He was such a great coach that not a single D1 program has had him as a finalist in their head coach search. He's only been available for 8 years now. Maybe he was a decent recruiter (not great by a long shot), but part of his job was to win games wasn't it? And in case any of you have some memory loss.. his last team completely quit on him. In the interviews after the season ending loss to Ga Tech, some of the prominent players (LaMont Jordan for one) were quoted as saying they wanted Friedgen-- probably because an alum slipped him a 100, but still.

Posted by: mcmelton | September 27, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I did not hear this much noise in the stands yesterday. I hope you all make out to Byrd this Saturday. This young team needs some support.

Posted by: garrett4 | September 27, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Friedgen's best years (record, ranking, AND bowls 2001-2003) were with Vanderlinden's players. Since then his record has been a mediocre 34-31 with 3 losing records out of the past 5 seasons, hardly the record of a successful coach. Is he a good coach but can't recruit? Good coaching can take you only so far with average talent. You need to get the players. He may be an alum and a great guy, but Maryland needs to make a change, and I don't know that Franklin is the answer. What has he done to have the job handed to him?

Posted by: wlaxdad | September 27, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Fridge had a pretty good run. I don't buy they loose tooo much area talent the true problem is they have struggled to get talent on the lines and a very good quarterback.

It's over for the Fridge time to move on, however, if he is able to get this team to a bowl game, it will be his most impressive coaching job ever...EVER!! This is pretty bad!

Posted by: Adrian5 | September 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Here's the thing, if Fridge resigns, who'll replace him? I wonder if Bill Cowher would be interested in giving college ball a shot?

Posted by: SirPelleas | September 27, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

To the morons that want Fridge gone: You ever think that the Terps might not get better if we get rid of the Fridge? In all likelihood, we would get a lot worse. The natural state of UMd football is pathetic. He has made them respectable. During the Fridge's tenure, he has the second best record of all head coaches for all the teams that were in the ACC when he became coach. He only trails Bobby Bowden's record by a few games. To get rid of the Fridge would be a disaster. This whole thing sounds familiar. Wasn't it just last year that these morons were screaming for Gary's head?

Posted by: aviscardo | September 28, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

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