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Posted at 8:12 AM ET, 11/22/2010

Maryland and the Military Bowl

By Eric Prisbell

As I have said since Maryland became bowl eligible, the most likely destination for Maryland is the Military Bowl. That certainly is the most likely destination after Saturday's loss to Florida State. And the most likely opponent is East Carolina from Conference USA. How do you feel about that?

By Eric Prisbell  | November 22, 2010; 8:12 AM ET
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I've seen all over the place that Maryland will probably end up in the Military Bowl because other teams in the ACC travel better and have more prestige as programs than Maryland does. Tell me, what are the statistics that support NC State or UNC traveling better or having more prestige than Maryland. I don't want your opinion, I want butts-in-seats or dollars-and-cents logic.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | November 22, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Nope. Seriously, what is there to be excited about? Nothing. The pattern of mediocrity continues.

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Seems like the more Terps fans object to the Military Bowl, the more Mr. Prisbell likes to talk about it. Strange pastime, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Posted by: skd2 | November 22, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Another oppurtunity to win get to the ACC championship game. Another sellout, another Blackout, and another 2+ touchdown loss. So disappointing to see these guys put themselves in position to accomplish something great, then fail again. Did anyone notice that Penn State vs Indiana attracted 30,000 more fans than the Terps on Saturday, both played in PG county. Maryland football needs help. I believe most, if not all, hope Maryland had at the beginning of the Friedgen era has evaporated.

Posted by: Maryland82 | November 22, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see this matchup just to see the action in a 77 to 70 game! But, will ECU even be invited to any bowl? They just got torched by Rice!!!

Posted by: MikeNelmsReturns | November 22, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

If the Terps beat NC State I think Mr. Prisbell will be proven wrong. Also, having given FSU a heck of a game (two touchdowns does not tell the story) the Terps are more appealing than many other ACC schools. They travel better than the impression provided in these posts by Eric. We win Sat. I say it is Music City Bowl and even at 7-5 I say Indepence Bowl in Shreveport. But what do I know I'm just an ardent supporter.

Posted by: JoeR123 | November 22, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I still have a hard time believing that any bowl outside of Charlotte would want UNC -- who will likely have the same 7-5 record as the Terps and has been mired in scandal all year. I also don't see a 6-6 GT team getting the nod over UMD.

But then again, the college football system is a joke and nothing would really surprise me.

Posted by: fushezzi | November 22, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Maryland not travelling well is a notion that Prisbell has created in his own mind, especially since he's too lazy to research. we took 30K to Miami, 20+K to Atlanta, 18K to JAX, and doubled Purdue fans at the Champs (reportedly we set the champs bowl record for tix at the time). We also represented ourselves fine in SF and Boise.

BC does not travel better than us, UNC is a draw but has no real track record. State brought 25K to the Gator against ND but doesn't have a better track record and neither does GT. What these schools have is location, and that is why they may be a more attractive option, with the economy, driving distance makes sense. but don't let Prisbell's agenda and lack of research allow you to be misunderstood. Bowl officials were probably happy with the crowd Sat night, it was decent live and on TV. And it's not even close to some of our best crowds. MD is no powerhouse, but when it's winning and has a good opponnent, the large alumni will go to the bowl. It's funny because I cam across articles in the USA today and SI referring to MD's well travelled fans, and the numbers I provided is support, why is Prisbell too lazy to look it up?

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

My previous rant aside, I sincerely have hope for the near future. There is a core of of talented underclassmen that has won the games that were supposed to be won. My frustration this season is in not winning any of the games that woulda been upsets. Beating NCST would be very nice, but only a partial offset to the disappointment from the FSU and Miami games. A weird blessing in disguise may be T. Smith's injuries - they may serve to keep him in school beyond this year. However had he been completely healthy throughout the year, I think we would have won at tleast one of the games we lost.

I understand many of the folks who disagree with my position that Garcia's redshirt should not have been burned until necessary. I think that is along the same logic that DOB should not have been the starter unless J-Rob was too injured to play. We need to play the players that put us in the best position to win. In my mind, a redshirt year should be for players where we have excessive depth (our RBs for instance) and/or where the player is not quite ready for prime time. The consensus has been from the beginning of the season that Garcia would be a stud - and looking at the shift when he did enter (moving a starting tackle to guard so he could play tackle) confirms this. Given the lack of depth in the o-line due to injuries - not any inability to recruit - I maintain that the RS would have been burned this season and it was. Instead of having his services for 7 games or more, we get him for 1.5 games + bowl. having the depth could have changed the complexion of many of the games we were in and he could have started FSU as an experienced player as opposed to being thrown to the wolves.

i agree stashing players makes sense some of the time - I fundamentally disagree that it made sense for this particular situation.

I think we beat NCST.

and despite the losses for the BB team, I think we are in for a satisfying March 2011.

I woulda complained about the names not being on the unis if we had won. And I still agree with RF coaching through the end of his contract. I remember Krivak & Duffner to vividly to think otherwise.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | November 22, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

GT is an easy drive to almost every bowl-that is their draw. But they are not Clemson or Vt when it comes to travelling either.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I'd be more excited about the Military Bowl if it was played at Nats Park. RFK (for anyone who hasn't been there lately) is in unbelievably awful shape. It's so sad that the venerable stadium has been let to rot by the DC government.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 22, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Beating State and winning a bowl game would ensure us a preseason ranking for a young but talented and to-be seasoned team. Next year could be very good.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

the Military bowls biggest drawback will likely be the opponent.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Who cares about any bowl now? Can't wait for everyone, including Eric, to flip the switch to basketball. Maybe next year will be a very good year for football, but the only really good thing this year was the emergence of DOB. Ralph deserves to be back and we will let next year determine where we go from there with him. Pretty sure almost nobody wants our coach-in-waiting....

Posted by: petecard | November 22, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line: Military Bowl needs to move to Nats Park.

RFK is a pit and will keep me from going unless they manage to bring in a big name opponent similar to UCLA last year.

Posted by: MerlinTerps | November 22, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Friday night my son and I ended up in a restaurant next to the hotel where the Illinois team and families were staying. Two of the top players, whose names I just don’t know but recognized them from their play, came in to eat with their families. Really nice people. There were many more Illini fans than Maryland fans in attendance. That’s makes sense since their football team was playing in Wrigley (limited seating) this weekend and we had a huge home game on Saturday night. I’m sure their fan base looked at this as a great pre-Thanksgiving trip to NYC for some really good basketball and early Christmas shopping.

Posted by: petecard | November 22, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Another day, and another thread about the Military Bowl. Could we just stop speculating about bowls until the invitations have been passed out?

I just don't see the Terps falling to the 8th spot, even if they lose to NC State on Saturday.

Charlotte wouldn't select UNC for a third year in a row, and they might not have that choice due to rules (still have Duke to try to get to 4-4 in the ACC, if they're 3-5, Miami, and possibly the Terps and NC State both at 5-3 would have to be selected ahead). Add in the fact that BC, the 9th ACC bowl eligible team, doesn't travel (neither does UNC, NCState, or GaTech), the Terps are almost a lock to get selected at least by the Indepedence Bowl.

If the Terps win, and FSU loses in the title, the 'Noles are in the Chick-fil-a, Miami, Maryland, and NC State (all 5-3) along with Clemson at 4-4 take the Sun, Champs, Charlotte, and Music City. If somehow GaTech gets Music City, Indepedence is not going to take BC over the Terps, and they couldn't take UNC over them if they finish 3-5. If UNC finishes at 4-4, the only bowls that will pick the Heels ahead of the Terps are Charlotte (played last two years) and Music City, which would leave the Independence Bowl a decision between GaTech and the Terps, which would be the only senario where the Terps end up in the Military Bowl if they beat NCState this week.

Let's just wait to see how the final games play out, and see if the Terps can improve their positioning with a win and a UNC loss.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

As a non-Maryland alum, I'd be more attracted to a match-up of non-local teams, such as the UCLA/Temple match-up last year.

The suggested move to Nats park is a very good idea.

Posted by: LonnieBeale1 | November 22, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Good run-down Russinator. I think there is a real chance that MD may end up at the Military, but it won't be primarily because of the insinuations on the part of Prisbell. the reason why he's written over and over about this and MD support is because he's more interested in "getting back" at terp fans than writing about hwo the terps played or the match-up with State. This guy is unprofessional on a serious level. And quite frankly he's mad that he has to be the terps reporter. I emailed him last year and he seriously claimed he wasn't the terps reporter and instead stated he was a writer specializing in investigative pieces. Are you freakin serious? He's written about MD bowl projections 3-4 times in a week and has failed to research our past travel history, what the admin wants out of bowls, what it means to the players and program. He wrote an article about fan apathy, but didn't account for the recent mediocre performance, Ralph's problems, the 2-10 record, that our opponents had been Morgan, FIU, Duke and Wake, or that we averaged sell-outs from 2002-2007 and didn't really drop off until last year. The FSU game, while not a complete sell-out showed that the fans were awaiting a marquee win...something Pribell has pointed out weekly that the team lacked.

He's a lazy writer, plain and simple, relying on asuumptions and insinuations.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

the Military bowls biggest drawback will likely be the opponent.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

That along with a Wednesday 2:30 PM kickoff--just an awful slot for a bowl game.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Beating State and winning a bowl game would ensure us a preseason ranking for a young but talented and to-be seasoned team. Next year could be very good.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 11:34 AM |

Are you referring to a preseason ranking in the top 25 or the Top 50?

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

That along with a Wednesday 2:30 PM kickoff--just an awful slot for a bowl game.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 12:06 PM

I'd take that over New Years Eve afternoon in El Paso or Charlotte. At least with the Military Bowl Terp fans can be close to home, take the afternoon off and not have to be in Charlotte for NYE when it's over. And the Military Bowl will be really easy for taking kids. I guess Nashville would be nicer, but we're splitting hairs over what bowl is really more attractive in our circumstance. The plum bowls (Atlanta, Miami, Orlando) are out of reach.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

James Franklin Play-calling 101:

2nd quarter
3rd and 13 at FSU 17: Da'Rel Scott RUSHES for 2 yards to the FlaSt 15.
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25 second before halftime, 1st and 10 at MD 44, MD doesn't use 2 timeouts.

End of 2nd Quarter
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3rd quarter

4th and 18 at FSU 35. Instead of attempting 52 yard field goal, we go for it. Danny O'Brien pass incomplete. Turn it over on downs.
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4th and 1 at FSU 15. Even though we just went for it on 4th 18, instead of even asking for a measurement and instead of going for it on 4th and 1, we settle for a field goal.
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4th quarter

4th and 2 at FSU 47. Instead of going for it, we punt for for 30 yards

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Are you referring to a preseason ranking in the top 25 or the Top 50?

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

If we beat State and a decent bowl opponent, a 9-4 record with talent and DOB coming back makes me think a preseason top 25 is possible. We will have depth on the OL. Kerr, Francis, Vellano and Ross are back on the line, We lose AW and Moten but have Mackall and a few others to fill in. the DBs are all back except for Perez and Franklin looks ready to assume that spot. RBs are solid with DM and Adams. WRs are solid and we'll finally have healthy TEs. This team will bring back a LOT of young experienced players-hard to claim to be objective but this team would be top 25 or so in my view.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Ok, lets see. While Maryland has definitely improved over the nightmare 2009 season, the reward is a trip to the Military Bowl!!!!!!!! While second tier pgorams such as Boise State and TCU fight for the national rankings, Maryland, a school with a much more nationwide renown, has to pump itself and its 40 something thousand fans (less than saw Penn State beat Indiana down the road) to play a football game 10 miles from campus in a delapidated stadium at a 2nd tier level bowl. Gee, is this is as good as it gets?

Posted by: garyolney | November 22, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

barno, the coaches out-think themselves often. the 4th and 18 was crazy. in terms of the 4th and 1, that's tougher. At some point you have to take the lead.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 22, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

Some of the decisions probably come from Fridge, like going for it or punting. The play calling however, is all Franklin.

The one that got me was this one in the 2nd quarter:

2nd and 1 at MD 48 Danny O'Brien rush, fumbled, recovered by FlaSt Mister Alexander at the Mary 40, Mister Alexander returns for 11 yards, to the Mary 29.

A fake dive and option pitch with his left hand that got blown up, because of DL penetration. Why are we running the option to the QB's left, no less, on 2nd and 1? Makes absolutely no sense.

Posted by: Section505203 | November 22, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The T(w)erps will get spanked by The Pirates!

Posted by: rfe18 | November 22, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

at a 2nd tier level bowl

Posted by: garyolney | November 22, 2010 1:00 PM

That's actually the nicest thing anyone has ever said about the Eagle Bank/(now) Military Bowl!

Posted by: Kev29 | November 22, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

The T(w)erps will get spanked by The Pirates!

Posted by: rfe18 | November 22, 2010 1:21 PM

Good grief - talking trash about a team that Navy is still scoring on.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 22, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about any bowl now?

Posted by: petecard | November 22, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Well I know that I am just stunned--STUNNED--to learn that Petecard doesn't attend Maryland bowl games.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

2nd quarter
3rd and 13 at FSU 17: Da'Rel Scott RUSHES for 2 yards to the FlaSt 15.

I actually thought that was a good call. The delay draw had worked in the first quarter, and DOB correctly read the blitz after getting sacked on the previous play.

25 second before halftime, 1st and 10 at MD 44, MD doesn't use 2 timeouts.

End of 2nd Quarter

I actually thought they were going to kneel when they first got the ball back with 25 seconds left in the half tied and getting the ball first in the second half. Scott had a good gainer (19 yards), and then they tried a few passes before the clock ran out. There really wasn't a chance to use a timeout on that possession other than to stop the clock after Scott picked up 19 on the first run.

3rd quarter

4th and 18 at FSU 35. Instead of attempting 52 yard field goal, we go for it. Danny O'Brien pass incomplete. Turn it over on downs.

For me, that's the only real blunder on the playcalling during the game. That was a sure punt. 4th and 6 or 8, maybe you go for it, but 4th and 18 (not even a quick snap either so the defense was ready for them to go) was stupid. I thought for a second BOD was going to pooch it, but there he was back to pass basically giving FSU 15 free yards. Luckily the call did not hurt with FSU turning the ball over, but the change in field position could have been HUGE--Terps only got 3 on the possession after the fumble.

4th and 1 at FSU 15. Even though we just went for it on 4th 18, instead of even asking for a measurement and instead of going for it on 4th and 1, we settle for a field goal.

It wasn't close enough to measure--it was closer to 2 yards than to 1, and I think the staff was surprised to see DOB's QB draw pick up 8 yards. The kicking team was already on the sideline ready to come in before the 3rd down play had finished, and I think the coaches didn't take the necessary time to evaluate that particular situation.

4th quarter

4th and 2 at FSU 47. Instead of going for it, we punt for for 30 yards

I really thought they would put the fake on there, but I think the punt was the right call there down only 4 still in the 3rd quarter. In the 4th quarter, you go for it there, but in the 3rd, you punt. Baltz got it inside the 20, but probably could have done better to pin them inside the 10, especially with FSU having to run at least 1 play at the loud end of the stadium.

You're going to have a few of these in every game with every coaching staff, but aside from the 4th and 18, most of the calls were decent, even if they appear eratic.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

A fake dive and option pitch with his left hand that got blown up, because of DL penetration. Why are we running the option to the QB's left, no less, on 2nd and 1? Makes absolutely no sense.

Posted by: Section505203 | November 22, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

That was HUGE. It's the only option play I've seen DOB run all year. It was almost like they forgot to send Jamaar Robinson into the game or Franklin was looking at the wrong sheet of plays when he sent it in. I know Fridge likes running the option, and probably has put a few of those plays into the book despite Franklin's west-coast style tendancies, but that was not the time to pull out something like that---it would have probably worked for a big gain if DOB had gotten the ball to the RB, but 2nd and 1 in the 1st quarter down 7-3 is not the time to roll out the first option play of DOB's career. I would be surprised if DOB had physically run that play more than twice in practice this year. On the plus side, the team could have folded after that play and gotten blown out, but the defense held FSU to a FG, and the offense came right back on a 15-play, 80 yard drive on the next possession to tie the game at 10 in the 2nd quarter.

However, the direct snap to DJ Adams was pure genious, especially since UNC ran the exact same play earlier in the day against NCState--TJ Yates looked over to the sideline while the direct snap went to the RB for a 5 yard gain. There were other wrinkles in the offense that clearly worked against an over-persuing defense. It's a shame that Franklin did not try a few more shots down the field, but this is definitely one loss that was not because of playcalling.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Terps-NC State game is at 3:30. Big game for our bowl selection, despite what our beat reporter may think.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Terps-NC State game is at 3:30. Big game for our bowl selection, despite what our beat reporter may think.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised he hasn't been celebrating that the kick was not at 7. Maybe he could spend the extra time writing some stories about the turnaround the team has had this season instead of writing about what color shirt he's going to wear to the Military Bowl.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Phew!!!! Let see. Maryland should've lost to Navy (Navy Coach was Ricky Dobbsing, Ricky Dobbsing instead of running the option). Navy laid 70 plus points on ECU (by the way they have the biggest bunch of low class baseball fans I've ever seen - so good for 'em).

So Oh yeah I'd like to see that game.

NOT!!!

GO NAVY !!! BEAT ARMY!!!

Posted by: Dog-1 | November 22, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I'd take that over New Years Eve afternoon in El Paso or Charlotte. At least with the Military Bowl Terp fans can be close to home, take the afternoon off and not have to be in Charlotte for NYE when it's over. And the Military Bowl will be really easy for taking kids. I guess Nashville would be nicer, but we're splitting hairs over what bowl is really more attractive in our circumstance. The plum bowls (Atlanta, Miami, Orlando) are out of reach.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The whole purpose of bowl games is to give players a chance to get away and for coaches to recruit in different regions. The Military Bowl offers neither for the Terps, and if other conferences are unable to fill their bowl obligations, I'd rather see the Terps turn down an invitation to the Military Bowl and take the invite back to San Fransisco. The Terps traveled well to the Emerald Bowl a few years ago, and there was a strong contingient (5k or more) in Berkley for the Cal game last year. This year's game, The Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, is on Sunday, January 9, 2010, and is the last bowl game before the National Championship Game against a Pac-10 or WAC team (projected to be #21 Nevada). Seems like a much better deal than playing 10 miles from campus on a Wednesday afternoon against a team from a conference worse than the Big East in a stadium that is falling apart.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Amen Russ. Amen.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that we could use some stronger recruiting in our own back yard, maybe it's better to stay close to home ;-)

Posted by: Kev29 | November 22, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Who would we play in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl?

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Kev29, do you seriously think the Military bowl will be better for recruiting than the Peach, Gator, or Champ Sports bowl? Seriously dude?

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, possibly Nevada, sorry, I got a headache...long day

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of recruiting, our class is currenty ranked 51st on Scout and 40th on Rivals. I guess a lot could happend between now and NSD.

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

SirPelleas, no question that the coach-in-waiting disaster is hurting our recruiting. Give Franklin his million, strip him of his play calling duties, and give Fridge a minimum of a 3-year extension to ensure he will be here for the duration of the Danny O'Brien era.

Recruiting will go back to top 25 status--which it has averaged for the Fridge era--and the program will be on the right track.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 22, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Military Bowl...C'Mon man... Who wants that??? Terps still have a chance to play for themselves this Saturday.. A win will put us ahead of the Military Bowl pecking order..Eric, I wonder if you get a cut of the ticket sales for that game. Most Maryland fans won't spend $65 to go sit in RFK for that game, it's beneath them.. We will travel, we have in the past.. Nashville,or Charlotte if we win this week, should put us there..

Posted by: frostanna | November 22, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

give Fridge a minimum of a 3-year extension to ensure he will be here for the duration of the Danny O'Brien era.

Recruiting will go back to top 25 status--which it has averaged for the Fridge era--and the program will be on the right track.

OH, this is just hilarious barny....first of all, you could give fridge, 10 consecutive top 5 recruiting classes and he couldnt build a top 25 team....and secondly, what do we need him here for the duration of DOB? So Danny can throw 300 screen passes over the next 3 years?

I hear powerhouse Towson is on our sched next year...that should be a sellout...get your tix early

wooooohoooo...viva la fridge

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 22, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

This past weekend has me so gosh darn upset. Where does the NCAA get these, obviously, biased refs?

1st the Terps bball team gets completely hosed by the refs in both games up at MSG. I'm sure it was some ESPN/NCAA conspiracy to have "bigger" names in the championship game. Talk about sad!!!! Terps were easily the best team in NY last week, no doubt about it. Won't be long until the Terps are ranked #1 in the polls.

Now on to the football. Wow!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!! How much did those refs get paid off to help FSU win? Seriously, Stevie Wonder would've been a better official in that game. Not only did the refs/NCAA insult the Terps with that travesty of officiating, but they also disrespected our troops (and the entire USA) since our Terps were rocking the Military uni's. If anything I think it's time to implement some GWB terrorist-"tactics" to make the NCAA/refs get on the right track!!!!!

Of course Franklin (the affirmative-action coach-in-waiting, right guys?) completely botched some of the plays with his predictable play-calling. Guy has got to go. C'mon let's start an online petition and than we can all protest and march around the UMD campus!!!!!!!!

Anyone who thinks otherwise? Let's hear it. I desperately need to copy and save your posts to make me feel like such a big man. Not only that but than I'll repost your old comments when it suits me, nevermind that a certain poster actually said that if the Terps lost a football game last year he/she'd never make a prediction on here again. And we know how long that lasted.......

Also, can't wait, will be back in MD for a week in December and can't wait to catch a Terps home bball game. Hopefully that will make me more of a "real" fan in the eyes of some Stalin-esque posters on here.

Nevermind that I went to both the Terps bowl game and NCAA tourney games last year. Still not a "real" fan to the likes of Fargo1 and others.

Posted by: DixonTheDog | November 22, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I hear powerhouse Towson is on our sched next year...that should be a sellout...get your tix early

wooooohoooo...viva la fridge

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 22, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break. EVERY BCS, sorry--AQ conference team schedules an FCS team. Those FCS teams actually knock off National Championship contenders from time to time like App State did to Michigan a few years ago and James Madison did to VaTech this year. UVA actually scheduled 2 of them this past year, so don't hold up the scheduling of Towson as some representation of poor scheduling.

The Terps are playing Notre Dame (2010 bowl team), WVU (2010 bowl team, possibly BCS team), and Temple (probable 2010 bowl team) next season. In fact, the only teams on the Terps' schedule next season that will likely not play in a bowl in 2010 are Towson, Wake and UVA. Find me another FBS team in the conutry that is playing more than 9 2010 bowl teams next season, and I'll bake you a cake!

Posted by: Russtinator | November 22, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh and the Military Bowl?

Terps are Champs Sports Bowl bound baby!!!!!!!!

Oh wait, who still shops at Champs? Do they still exist and are they in stupid malls still?

Seriously, Champs? What a stupid sports store that is.

I say the Terps should go to the Wendy's-Baconater-Alta-Dena-2%-Skim-Milk-Triscuit-and-cheese-Four-Loco-Drink Bowl.

We'll totally dominate that game and it'll make us the #1 recruiting destination in all of the world!!!!!

Posted by: DixonTheDog | November 22, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

So Oh yeah I'd like to see that game.
NOT!!!
Posted by: Dog-1 | November 22, 2010 2:58 PM

Dog-1, terrific use of a NOT joke that wasn't even funny when it was popular in the early 90's.
You might remember the 90's, it was a decade that Maryland didn't make it to any bowl games.
Might think of that before you all keep whining about which bowl you go to now.

Even if you all were as good as Navy (NOT!!)
ECU - 77
MD - 70

Posted by: rfe18 | November 22, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Where is the outrage about UNC BB STILL Being ranked? wtf? Are there that many votes coming from North Carolina?

I know most of you younger guys choose to hate Duke above all others, but UNC has been detestable for far longer (and the real enemy is UVA).

No BB thread so posted it here.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | November 22, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Agree with Hugh about UNC's ranking, even at 25th. It'll be interesting to see how they do against Illinois in a week.

Posted by: MrScrotums | November 22, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I say the Terps should go to the Wendy's-Baconater-Alta-Dena-2%-Skim-Milk-Triscuit-and-cheese-Four-Loco-Drink Bowl.

Posted by: DixonTheDog | November 22, 2010 5:28 PM |

That made me laugh pretty hard...

Posted by: SirPelleas | November 22, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Ya, those really great bowls, like Gator Peach and Champs would make a huge difference in our recruiting. Playing in those bowls is the dream of all of the top players we are after. It would be huge! But the Military Bowl would just be a disaster. Only players who go to Morgan State and Towson State dream about going to the Military Bowl....

Great posts above Dixon! Woof Woof!

Posted by: petecard | November 22, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Actually, one item I agree with Barny on is how ridiculus this arrangement with Fridge/Franklin is....Its actually better for Franklin if Fridge fails...the better Fridge does, the less likely Franklin gets HC job...what a joke! I am sure he wont be obvious about it but dont tell me that every stupid call he makes wont be 2nd guessed by people.....I see a 5 win season next year at best....maybe 6 since we have Towson on the sched

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 22, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

At best, the HCIW situation turns into a $1M bonus to Franklin for staying as the OC. When the deal was done, part of the logic was that the Terps drop-off had to do with the lack of continuity in OCs and DCs (Barno knows who/when the turnover occured at both positions). And since it coincided with the recruitment of DOB (post commitment though I believe) one could look at DOB as the $1M kid. So if JF remaining through his eligibility was a precursor to DOB signing with the program, it was actually money well spent.

JF won't ever be our HC - fans who contribute to the University - Carolina1 for instance - won't stand for it and NO AD wants to fight that battle. Given the massive increase in revenues from the ESPN deal, the extra money to JF will not be an issue.

What was an issue was Yow's botched attempt to buy-out RF. I appreciate her efforts for MD and no doubt, multiple NCs were won across the board but it was time for her to move on (and quit f-ing with GW). And the inexplicable flipped pay scale between Mens and Womens BB assistants was ridiculous.

JF will see his $1M, and there is still incomplete information to determine whether that will be money well spent or money wasted. But he will never see the HC position at MD.

In terms of next year, I know we have the division (Clemson, FLST, Wake, NCST, and BC) and UVA. Some have mentioned Towson as our patsy, ND, Temple and WVU. Who else do we draw from the other division?

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | November 23, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

And another question: We used Garcia for 16 plays before he got injured. I understand that his redshirt COULD be re-instated based on his quick injury. How is the health of our line heading into this weekend. Is it possible that we can beat NCST (barring further injury to our o-line) and reclaim his RS? Or are we too thin at o-line to even consider not playing him?

Hate the idea that it was burnt this late in the season. Russ stated it best - the time to burn it was with DeSouza's unexpected injury and actually get use of his talents and garner him real in-game experience over the course of the season.

There IS a lot riding on this game overall, my previous rants aside. I think the board agreed that 8 wins was a successful season for this team. Sure NCST does not have the cache that a win over Clemson, WVU, MIami or FlST would have provided but they are pretty good this season and are in the ACCCG IF they can beat the Terps. An 8-win regular season is significantly better than 7 wins in my book. Sure some of the RMOGs would ridicule it but facts are facts, crappy teams don't post up 8 wins. Its easy to lose sight of this after such a disappointing loss on nat'l TV.

There was a QB out of Seneca Valley converted to defense who had a similar situation for us a few years ago.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | November 23, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

2011 Maryland Football oponents:

Towson (9/3/11)
Temple (9/24/11)
Notre Dame (11/12/11 at Fed Ex)
WVU (TBD)
BC (TBD)
Miami (TBD)
UVA (TBD)
Clemson (TBD)
@FSU (TBD)
@NCSU (TBD)
@Wake (TBD)
@GaTech (TBD)

About as solid of a schedule you can have in the ACC.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 23, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

And another question: We used Garcia for 16 plays before he got injured. I understand that his redshirt COULD be re-instated based on his quick injury. How is the health of our line heading into this weekend. Is it possible that we can beat NCST (barring further injury to our o-line) and reclaim his RS? Or are we too thin at o-line to even consider not playing him?

The NCAA is pretty strict about waiving rules, but I guess it would be worth a try for Garcia, assuming he plans on playing 4 years. 6th years of eligibility are hard to come by, especially when the kid is brought into a game under the impression that the coaches are burning the redshirt (injury or not). I know in basketball, it depends on the number of minutes (Pankey is still eligible for redshirt as far as I know), but in football, it's one snap and you're done. I think the injury would have to be pretty serious (season ending) for the NCAA to consider a waiver, and even then, they have a track record of denying appeals for medical redshirts.

Maybe if our beat reporter actually did some reporting to find out the extent of Garcia's injury, and the coaches' thinking about burning the redshirt, it would be a little clear. Oh, that's right, he has another 3 blog entries to write about the Military Bowl and how Terps fans don't travel well or show up for big home game.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 23, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Sucks that we don't get Duke on the ACC schedule next year Russ.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 23, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

That's why TerpfanMA has to keep pointing to Towson and the lone example of "soft" scheduling by the Fridge for next season.

It is a tough road next season, but if this team continues to improve, and makes progress leading up to a successful appearance in a bowl game this season, they should be in great shape next year with a team that will be loaded with talent at every position. The ONLY key players that are being lost are Woujiack, Moten, Scott, Pinegar, Glouster, Cannon, and Baltz. There's a chance Tate and Torey Smith leave early, but the Terps will return a roster full of experienced players with freshman contributors like DOB, DJ Adams, Max Garcia, David Mackall, Dexter McDougle, Dave Steinbaugh, Pete DeSouza, and Pete White, and a strong set of kids who are currently redshirting inclduing Tyler Smith, Titus Till, and Darius Kilgo. The Terps should put up a strong challenge for their first appearance in the ACCCG, and have an excellent shot at an upper tier bowl next season and the following years.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 23, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

We should be a preseason top 25 next year. Win against NC State and a bowl win and it all but assures it.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 23, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

We should be a preseason top 25 next year. Win against NC State and a bowl win and it all but assures it.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 23, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you on that, and maybe the ACC Media will actually pick the Terps to finish higher than 3rd in the Atlantic.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 23, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Russ, we aren't asking for a 6th year from Garcia, we are asking for a waiver on his actual redshirt season. This isn't a Chris Kelly situation.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 24, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

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